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For me it gotta be twistzz,highest headshot percentage for so many yrs and top of that one of the best entry players in the world right now may be even top 2 after yekindar,also the third best pistol player of all time and only zywoo and Niko better than him.
s1mple and zywoo. They are great with every weapon
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I think we disagree there but hej thats fine.
nexa and amanek where the glue and structure of the team. they just needed a good awper. now they have hit and miss games. all over the place.
Because they kicked that structure out when they had a good awper.
Amanek, nexa, Monesy, hunter, niko.
or now Jks, nexa, Monesy, hunter, Niko would of been fine.
I believe in jks enough to give them what they kicked with amanek and more.
Im not sure about hooxi since I believe they need a fragging igl. otherwise hooxi is great.
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Idk if they really need a fragging igl in that team. Average 1 rating igl would do just fine imo. (hooxi has 0.86 in the last 6 months)
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amanek, nexa, niko, hunter and m0nesy would've been so good
+1 removing amanek instead of jackz to bait for hunter was the biggest mistake.
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8/8 en légende
+11111 i always said this
8/8 take
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It's just the way we rate on HLTV , you don't rate out of 10 but out of 8 .
Maybe I'm missing something if someone can clarify for us hltv mens and womens
I think it just came from rhyming with the word rate
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4chan users copypasta
+1 both are goats on same lvl
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niko not able to use awp
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he can use the awp - just does not like being a main awper. He was maining awp before but switched to a rifle as he feels he can have more impact like that.
He's relentlessly aggressive and the best player when it comes to space taking. So him on an awp is just netfing what he can do.
End result him having to fight his urge to do what he wants do to but shouldn't do it cause he's awping and that's why he's not that great as a main awper now. But still a god with that weapon.
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If u talking about 4 years ago then id recommend switch from internet explorer to something else. With awp hes lioe scream on faceit and mm is god but in pro ma tches barely average. But with rifle hes lioe sniper tho seen lately niko outwin lomg range battles with ak against awpers with 1 tap lol last one was nuke I think outside
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He was secondary awper for faze too but he cannot be main awper after having so much practice with a rifle, he just has to work on it a lot and practice it before playing as awper in official matches. If he directly switches to awp like he did, it's obvious he's gonna suck. I believe he can awp but he has to change his aggressive rifle playstyle and practice a lot.
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"it's obvious he's gonna suck" Please learn to read
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I didnt read the last bit my bad. Can't focus hsvent tsken my cannabinoid meds :( and yes I iniw hed use to 2nd awp back then on d2 sometimes did few good plays on other maps but in reality he tier 2 awper even amanek towards end was way better at awping just thst they made chsngr too fast id say they was major finalist s amanek just started becoming better awper. Now they back to start even with great awper
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True, he sucks with awp and he shouldn't do it even if he was good as he is so good with rifle anyways.
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Some say rifling harder some say awpi g harder. U cant just put average player on Awp and say awp is op as decrnt players eill won with rifle. Is about ur playstyle ur crosshair placement movements ur awereness and everything else. Just cause u got awp that doesnt make it easy for u. Iuts the enemy that are having bad strats making it harder for themselves. Its just personal opion saying riofling is harder. Unless u have scientific tests it's not a fact.
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That's just ur opinion once again not fact. With rifle u can turn round around with awp is rare and the enemy has to do mistakes and u have to do everything perfrctly or u dead with awp after 1-2 miss shots or overwhelmed. Its part of game whiever thinks awp is easy n op should really thinking about different game to play.
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yeah the truth is somewhere in the middle.
lots of these guys saying awp is easier play it against LEM, level 4 faceit or lower thats for sure. getting a frag with it here or there. or even some highlight feels easier because they give you all the dumb peaks.
on the other hand you can be rendered useless with the awp.
specially with dumb team mates that dont hold their own get overun easily like domino effect im better with rifle in such games. on the defensive side too because many at this level dont know how to stop A long D2 for example.
so I cant use the awp I must take care of long. its so frustrating to play with idiots.
bottomline is at this level or lower many players dont have experience with the awp. dont know how to play with a teamate that has the awp. or how to use utility or a strat around it. and when they play it themselves they kill a few with it and think that is the full awp experience.
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Almost every top awper such as device, s1mple, zywoo, sh1ro etc are also amazing with rifles so I find it stupid when people say that they abuse because thats part of cs and at top level its about the detail cause 1 smallest mistake will get u punished even if u got so called awp but somehow many players are way worse on awp then some on rifle therefore is not op. It's the top awper combined with good team play what's reslly important in top cs
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youtube.com/watch?v=6zqUv9Zj764
after seeing this i can't say rifler is easier cmon man, the impact is insane, if you watch s1mple zywoo, even some m0nesy clips, things they do with awp you just can't do with rifle, so that's why i say impact is obviously better/easier with awp. You can do it quicker, 1 click anywhere on the body pretty much and it's done
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Those rounds are uncommon tho unless the enemy sucks. And u get all the space. U see same type of rounds with rifle too. I even seen zywoo s1mple and many more get such quick kills with p250 deagle glock or whatever other gun. And saying wbout body 1shot is dumb thwts why u play with the map not juet run ouft yolo into no mands field. If u behind wall u dont grt full dmg also with rifle ur more mobile in every way. While with awp u slow and vulnerable. Everything has pros and cons and that's how csgo is.
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Niko over zywoo ? Reported
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I mean , ZINEDINE ZYWOO is just above
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skilled in what concept? if you mean overall, the best players in the world says it all.
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I am talking based on raw aim.
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Zywoo is not about raw aim it's more about his game sense which makes him one or the best,samething for Niko and s1mple as well.
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Twistzz has better aim than kscerato and ropz, he always had 60% plus headshot percentage for so many yrs. Plus he plays hard role like entry where ur aim always needs to be on point,unlike ropz and kscerato where most of the time they r killing they opponents from behind just because they r lurkers overall.
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Headshot percentage doesnt matter
It’s who can kill the other person the fastest with a rifle that does
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So headshot is insta kill with a rifle isn't it?
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Flick time is more important, or “time-to-kill”
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neither is as important as timing and movement
Headshot percentage is a strange stat imo, because you can just get a single frag with hs and instantly get 100% hs percentage. Realistically, you will get more than one frag, but the concept remains, you can get most of a low amount of kills by hs and have a very high hs percentage. For example one player gets 40 frags and 20 of them with hs for a hs percentage of 50% while his teammate gets only 10 frags but 9 of them are hs, for hs percentage of 90%. The reason the stat is misleading in my opinion is that 20hs kills obviously is better than 9, but looking at it from only percentage looses out on that perspective.
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That's how it works with faceit past 20 AVG but for hltv it is ratio of your total kills and headshots so it's not misleading in that sense
Jackz had like 60% HS% in G2 but I don't think anyone argues he has better aim than Kscerato
But i respect ur opinion as well,so piece out :).
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Zywoo and s1mple r gods of cs that's why. Altho i find twistzz,yekindar or xantares much better aimers overall.
Zywoo has the best aim in the world
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Zywoo has one of the best aim in the world,but not the best neither s1mple/Niko has best aim in the world,it's very debatable. I find twistzz,yekindar and xantares probably better aimers overall.
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Zywoo top 1 2019, 2020
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Bro rifle is harder to use than a awp,s1mple and zywoo r great players in general but they aren't best aimer by any means.
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Riflers:
BlameF HS % overall 39%
Ax1le HS % overall 48.6%
NiKo HS % overall 50%
Twistzz HS % overall 62.1%
b1t HS % overall 67.2% ( Small career )
S1mple HS % overall 41% ( Counting that he plays with awp )
Zywoo HS % overall 41% ( Counting that he plays with awp )
Broky HS % overall 37.7% ( Counting that he plays with awp )
Another awpers ( For you to compare ):
Sh1ro HS % overall 27.5%
Jame HS % overall 25%
Torszi HS % overall 29.1%
Trust me when i'm telling you that s1mple/Zywoo have better aim than most of the top riflers. I speak out of facts and you're only putting your opinion as an argument.
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Ok but when pros discuss about great aim they always talks about riflers not awpers in any video from what i have seen.
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> Most skilled player in your opinion
People give their opinion
> People ask you about concept
Raw aim
> People mention s1mple + Zywoo
You say their aim is not as good
> I'm telling you, you're wrong
You keep insisting
> I prove you wrong
'When pros discuss (...)'
What does that have to do with our current topic? Why do you have to change the subject after i proved you wrong? You went from accepting Zywoo and S1mple in the discussion to remove them from the equation cuz you couldn't keep up with your argument
Be consistent atleast - Your title doesn't match your thread since you're taking HS % as the biggest factor to being ' skilled '
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Yeah i was kind of taking hs% and based on role i was talking about who is the most skilled player overall. Entry+high hs% player always seems to me the most skilled player overall in the game.
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If awping is easier why so many teams changed awping to non awpers or average awpers andit did t work? Edvery tier 1 team needs good awper that doesnt mesn its easier in fact awping is one of hardest things in pro matches. U talk about ur mm expierence and then compare it to pros. I a rent think that. The only reason awpers better thats cause many teams play around their awpers and also they save most which keeps rating high. Nt tho hltv analyst
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Well awp will get Nerf because it's over power.
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Its not tho. Its only op is noob mm faceit games because lack of aimers. Strats and also awpers spam. If they meet good team they can play full rifles and u will still lose with awp. Now u cant spam and is enough to kill 5 guys or kill 3 and do scouple spams. U will more likely pick up rifle from floor or swap to pistol more often now. And if u think still op go plwy call of duty with run and gun quickscopes then tell me thats not op. Maybe u just used to fortnite where u need against tullhp and armor 2 shots lol.
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I guess than even pros r noob if they think awp is op. Yes u can use utility to clear an awper,but sometimes even utility isn't enough to clear awper in some position and than awper gets ez free kill overall.
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Where pros say awp is op??? U talk but no source. Maybe some tier 999 bots or cryers. U just dont understand how tactical game works. U just wanna run and gun that's why. The only thing used to be op is old scout where jumping sccurscy was like 90%. Or old awp where u can run amd noscope everyone like nothing and still not evryone was good with awp same like now. If its op tjhen how kennys play tier 2 and not even that great with awp there? Go play against any gooid players and they will 1 tap u with rifle every round even if u have awp. Niko will 1 tap u with deagle on nuke outside while u double scopped. Oh nvm China flag irrelevant in csgo so no wonder such bad take
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Because clicking heads is objectively harder than clicking bodies
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Then B1t? With average head shot above 60% and 20 kills per map (at least in a good working Navi)
even when iam a hater, simple is still my choice
it has to be hooxi and aleksib. How else could they have stolen paychecks for this long period?
Cristiano Ronaldo of CS S1mple and Pessi of CS Zywoo
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So zywoo>s0mple
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donk
monesy ofc
Twistzz is a good shout, so is NiKo, but I'd say ZywOo rn is the best raw aimer
s1mple is amazing but his crosshair placement at times isn't the best but he just flicks to heads so idk
Twistzz and ChoKo
ZywOo probably
if we talking raw aim, then twistzz, niko, electronic, etc
s1mple /closed
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Ok Mr Putin.
s1mple is a mind round caller and a beast inside and outside the box. Zywoo and Niko are on par with him, Niko has great calls while Zywoo is still choosing not to get involved too much.
Twistzz is more supportive than all of them but he's one of the most complete players out there.
Still, when you see Niko peek A palace on mirage with deagle and hold an awper in jungle with full on confidence that he will destroy him more often than not - it's a sight to behold. Cause game looks so simple when you watch his pov and he's trying very hard to be a part of every round.
s1mple does that too, pretty sure that's his best trait - no matter what opponents do he's so likely to be there where the show is. Just can't avoid him.
But again, Niko man, being so consistently good while being so aggressive is unholy. 37 maps with rating above 1.0 while being an entry and a space maker. For reference - s1mple is second with 31.
NiKo
if you mean only raw aim it has to be NiKo
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s1mple and zywoo are quite close in raw skill imo, nobody else is close
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I think they r best when it comes to game sense more than raw aim honestly,i find twistzz,yekindar or even xantares aim lot better tho.
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That's because you see them rifle all the time, if simple and zywoo weren't awpers. They would still be best at rifles because that's how skilled they are with every weapon. Most of the hybrid awpers are most skillful in their team
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Yeah exactly my point zywoo,s1mple and Niko aren't the most mechincally gifted player, twistzz,yekindar and xantares r better overall.
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Greatest aimer of all time altho,twistzz has been the best aimer overall recently.
give zywoo and s1mple any weapon, they'll just shit on the server.
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s1mple or zywoo, cause they make above-average plays with pretty much any weapon.
Special mentions: NiKo and ropz
I believe no player will match Zywoo in versatility, he's basically always the difference maker for Vitality
blamef
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Lmao everything checks out.
Aim-wise? XANTARES nowadays, it's not even close
Historically speaking, it's f0rest, this guy didn't have to warm up before matches, he's, in my opinion, the biggest talent the scene has ever had, even though many will most likely disagree with me
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Twistzz and yekindar aim better than xantares but i respect ur opinion. Also yes forest is legend no comparison,dude still rekts players in fpl without much pratice.
Twistzz is definitely NOT an entry fragger, idk why u labeled him as such. twistzz is more likely to be last in than first in
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Twistzz is a entry fragger in faze,broky and ropz r the one who always last alive.
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Come on, FaZe's entry fraggers are rain and karrigan, not Twistzz.
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He does entry from time to time as well with rain and karrigan.
U are trolling lmfao #94
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Anyone can entry from time to time, doesn’t make them an entry fragger
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No delusional ropz and broky never do entry in faze.
ikr lol this guy hasnt even watched twistzz if he thinks he's an entry
in term of raw skill, definitely Zywoo and non-malding NiKo
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Tabsen
goat igl and fragger
thinking for 5 and shooting for two
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Zywoo
ZywOo by far.
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How can you disregard awpers in your topic here exactly?
The reason why Zywoo and s1mple awp because they're the best players, shit players don't awp since the awp is the best gun in the game.
If the AWP is so easy then why is there a lack of good awpers in the scene? many decent teams are missing a awper AKA a star player.
HS% doesn't mean that much I'm averaging 59% HS rating and i wish I wasn't so focused on the heads I would be a better player if I wasn't just aiming at heads.
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Zywoo/s1mple aren't the most mechincally skilled pro players like twistzz/yekindar or even screams back when he used to play csgo. Again awp is easier weapon to use than rifle,unless u r force to flick everytime for a kill with an awp,it's a lot easier weapon to destroy someone than a rifle where ur aim always needs to be on point and insta headshot while even controlling a hard spray pattern,or else u r losing most of ur gun fights with a rifle against an awper. They r best players of all time just because they r versatile with any weapon.
Btw may i ask how u got ur 59% hs?what role do u play as a rifler entry or lurk?
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Entry. I don't know I've always aimed for the head back in 1.6 as it was more viable especially long range I guess it's just ingrained.
If I lower my sens I tend to spray more but on my normal sens 2.9 @ 400 my first bullet accuracy is very good but I can't spray that well lol.
ZywOo/NiKo/Xantares/Yekindar
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Twistzz?
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Not in their class
Goat S1mple > all of them + you
Zywoo or niko
f0rest
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aka DADESTROYER aka f0restwOw~
zywoo plays rly nicely in 1 v x situations, easily my favorite player to watch in a clutch
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He does entry only ropz lurk in faze. U clearly don't want faze alot.
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watch*
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Yekindar has insane aim as well but i just personally prefer twistzz aim more,as twistzz is better pistol player over yekindar.
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twistzz isnt an entry unless he is feeling confident af, otherwise he is more passive than ropz/broky even
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haha
0/8
zywoo hundred percent and s1mple
It's clearly s1mple at this point. The versatility and consistency of what he can do is ridiculous. Most players would be fucked playing the way he does, let alone dropping the best stats of anybody in the game pretty much all the time.
s1mple by far
S1mple, only player who would repeak or make plays and disrespect any top player and get away with it.
in terms of raw aim Niko is numero uno for sure
individual skill:
1. zywoo, the hard carry
2. s1mple, the highlight machine
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3. device, the paycheck stealer
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4. NiKo, the team destroyer
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Ropz has great mental strength and can outsmart players but overall skill isn't high as S1mple.
Twistzz has great aim but he depends too much on it.
Niko weakness is awp.
So overall S1mple and zywoo alone on the mountain
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Sh1ro owns zywoo major choker kkkkk
Sh1ro top 3 this year top 2 next and top 1 2024 next GOAT 2 grand slam and 10 major
zywoo
Maki and it isnt even close
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Skills can't be resume to aim. I would say niko is way more skillful individually than twiszz. Also, s1mple and zywoo are the goats for sure, they're great on everything.
Still, skill isn't all, cold and device are my favorites players cause of their game sense and smart decision making.
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