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Brollan | 
Sweden annieareuok 
Will s1mple be top1 2022? Whats your take on the list guys?
2022-12-04 00:18
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KENSI | 
Russia pix3w
Sh1ro
2022-12-04 00:20
16 replies
agree he should. be on the top20 list
2022-12-04 00:20
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top-5
2022-12-04 15:24
2 replies
top 3 s1mple , ZyWoo, sh1ro in that order
2022-12-04 19:44
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#169
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Denmark TheZpike
probably the most likely outcome
2022-12-05 10:38
Unlikely because C9 didn't win anything except Dallas
2022-12-04 20:11
8 replies
Navi as well won "only" one tournament this year, didn't they?
2022-12-04 22:17
5 replies
yes, vitality also only one event
2022-12-04 23:41
you only count a win tournament ? you forget navi reach grandfinal major and cologne btw
2022-12-07 14:47
1 reply
#290
jks | 
Australia bryte
It seems that HLTV doesn’t care about achievements considering Device was robbed of the number 1 spot on 2018
2022-12-13 01:08
#266
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North America 007DBR9
at least zywoo and s1mple got mvp for the events they won
2022-12-07 19:15
1 reply
At least s1mple got the final of 2 events that actually matter, unlike Zywoo.
2022-12-08 01:49
That didn't stop Niko last year
2022-12-07 13:08
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#245
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Russia IgorSV
Same as Zywoo
2022-12-07 13:14
device top 1
2022-12-05 00:12
1 reply
I love you for this comment
2022-12-06 15:59
depends on how fast they can restructure c9 ( seems interz is about to leave )
2022-12-07 12:52
Its useless, its not fun anymore. Hltv system is also not the most flawless, also CSGO has been little boring tbh. No hype, players dont care much.
2022-12-04 00:20
27 replies
Cadian in tears over winning blast, random hltv user = players just don't care
2022-12-04 03:20
22 replies
Ofcourse cadian cares but i am taking about actual best players like niko, s1mple, dev1ce, even faze cause they get easy money every month why would they bother wasting time in winning some useless tournaments. Outsiders is literally the best team in the world. thats tells you about everything
2022-12-04 23:59
19 replies
And what is that opinion based on that the best players in the world don't care? They are not winning = they don't care? Or they have a little bit worse ratings = they don't care?
2022-12-05 00:11
1 reply
Rating has nothing to do with it. For rest read #186
2022-12-05 23:35
damn i guess NiKo and Elige just never cared aboyt winning a major lmfao, what a shitty take even for hltv standards
2022-12-05 08:02
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#171
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Denmark TheZpike
yeah, completely stupid
2022-12-05 10:39
They wanted to win a major but they never cared for it lol. Its true. s1mple wanted a major, he worked for it 24/7, giving everything to the game, now he chill with girls. Did elige work as much as s1mple? And ofcourse again you just dont understand it but rather would have a take against it no matter. Where did I mention any tournament value? You are literally having the best tournament possible in csgo as a example. Best would be doing on average. Also I bet you and there must have tweet and interview,etc about player not caring even about normal blast lans, epl, or any such events. Its something which is a fact. Which can also be seen in the players. I can tell that Outsiders try alot and they work alot but I can also tell Navi does not work at all for this past months. Its hard for maybe you to understand all this but not for me.
2022-12-05 23:33
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0/8
2022-12-05 23:46
Yeah you have no idea how much they work and what the tournaments mean to them (ofc some tournaments mean more than others, everyone knows that) and your whole opinion is based on your own feeling and that feeling probably comes from the favorites like Faze & Navi not winning and underdogs like Heroic and Outsiders getting wins.
2022-12-06 10:16
4 replies
Nope. Even when Navi won last year, tournaments after the majors. They were not really working as much. Cloud9 and Outsiders and Heroic put in the most work. its factual and not opinion based. Best players even good example liquid, they dont care, for them its about money and money only. Also I exactly know how much teams work. Liquid last year XD instead of having bootcamps in Europe they went to chill in America and played tournaments without any scrims. Well teams care alot XDD I guess
2022-12-06 14:47
3 replies
Guess you have inside knowledge about all pro teams then? Still don't believe that you actually know anything even if you say the same thing a million times. Also everyone knows Liquid at least was a bit lazy team, even Yekindar talked about it when he joined the team that in Outsiders they grinded way more that the Liquid players were used to. But that's just NA and you were talking about all the best players and team being lazy.
2022-12-06 15:47
2 replies
Are you just delusional? Or a normal deniers who will believe one thing no matter no what? Where did I say something which require info from inside or I even said I have? lol Nice assuming and also projecting is never good. Liquid had best players, and the best talent, I told you about Navi, G2, FaZe. What more should I tell you? I think you understand simple things but will have a opposing opinion no matter what. You know what is tryharding? Cloud9 spending 16 hours a day in 2021 to get to tier1. Nbk even said in his interview, he doesnt play expect Pracs, same for many top pro players, and some of them can easily be the best but they dont care. s1mple wanted a major, he gave everything to game, thats what caring and trying.
2022-12-06 23:27
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Idk how bad your understanding of English is but it really seems you have no idea what I'm saying. You are saying the best players don't care and only care about money and you also say you know exactly how much pros work but I have seen no evidence of that so you must know something others don't. Also Liquid doesn't have the best players and talent the fuck you saying? And talking about some washed up nbk, who cares it's not a surprise he plays less when he can't win anything anymore anyway. Also different players need different amounts of pracc, it's not good for every player to play 16 hours a day or they will get burned out. I'm guessing you are just mad that these pros are 1000x better than you and get big salaries while you are playing 12h/day to be a complete nobody.
2022-12-07 10:06
"Its hard for maybe you to understand" is what i thought about every sentence... what the fuck are you even trying to say apart from assuming to know what teams are doing behind closed doors?
2022-12-07 10:11
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Assuming? Reading is easy If you read, you would realise the talk is about facts and not assuming like you and other delusional users. Who talked about behind closed door stuff? Ofcourse alot of players do drug and other cringe things but we are talking about cs and cs only. But what should i say, only if you read i wouldnt have had to type this
2022-12-07 14:51
5 replies
"They wanted to win a major but they never cared for it lol. " show proof if this isnt assuming on your end. i can dissect your post sentence by sentence if you want..
2022-12-07 16:36
4 replies
nice assuming or you didnt read the whole converastion. With this flawless logic no need of courts btw
2022-12-07 23:31
3 replies
The conversation is a lot like others also telling you you're just guessing Not sure what you think you achieved there..
2022-12-08 00:31
2 replies
same for you, I present factually opinion and not have a delusional understanding of things
2022-12-08 00:41
1 reply
whatever floats your boat, mate
2022-12-08 09:18
Niko missed the major and said on twitter "he has never felt so empty"
2022-12-08 23:35
#170
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Denmark TheZpike
true
2022-12-05 10:38
#210
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Scotland Jameson_
Cadian in tears over tying his shoelaces bro
2022-12-06 14:59
i agree now it changed into two players rivalary and no one is close atm, too boring, hope new generation of players will be good challenge for them
2022-12-04 14:31
2 replies
It was always like that, Cold 16-17, S1mple 18,21,22, Zywoo 19,20. 1 guy showing up every 2 years, but S1mple and Zywoo are like Messi and Ronaldo I think 4 and 5 years of being on the top, that's insane
2022-12-04 20:39
1 reply
cold was just two years, and he was not so far ahead of others as S1mple and zywoo. O agree its insane being so dominant for so long
2022-12-05 07:58
#195
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United Kingdom Dishy
then go watch the Cologne FInals, or the Blast Fall Finals, clearly you havent been paying attention
2022-12-06 10:49
Top 5 will be: s1mple ZywOo sh1ro Ax1Le NiKo
2022-12-04 00:20
23 replies
#31
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Russia Senor_Savy
top4 correct, niko is questionable
2022-12-04 01:42
19 replies
Could be broky too but NiKo is pretty superior in stats
2022-12-04 01:44
18 replies
#52
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China RADNIKEY
It should be broky, but yeah the Faze players don't have ridiculous stats
2022-12-04 03:22
imo BlameF, Stavn > Broky. Yeah he has many team achievments this year and two MVP, but low impact and weaker stats than both, no chance he will be above Niko or stavn, blameF maybe cause he didnt played at any major
2022-12-04 14:33
16 replies
0/8
2022-12-04 15:21
5 replies
you will se, Stavn will be above broky
2022-12-04 17:30
4 replies
Stavn is actually better than broky but he wont be higher than him in rankings this year
2022-12-07 16:08
3 replies
why not ? better raiting + much better impact
2022-12-07 16:23
2 replies
Not true and the different factor is that the little dude won a major kekw hltv.org/stats/players/10994/stavn?start.. hltv.org/stats/players/18053/broky?start.. I prefer and actually think Stavn is better but Broky had a better year overall
2022-12-07 16:26
1 reply
maybe ur right, vs better tier opponents broky really is better
2022-12-07 17:50
Blamef max top 7 and stavn maybr top 20 if lucky. Broky will break top 5 easily with ropz in 6th or 7th
2022-12-04 22:14
7 replies
Ropz 6/7th is best joke i have heard for a while
2022-12-05 07:59
6 replies
K see for yourself
2022-12-05 11:12
5 replies
What drugs are you taking ? Just want to know
2022-12-05 11:38
4 replies
-blamef -stavn -NiKo Ropz already 7th there also someone else as well
2022-12-05 12:10
3 replies
I asked other thing, i see you took too many drugs
2022-12-05 14:29
2 replies
0/8 who asks that seriously?
2022-12-05 14:33
1 reply
every normal person on my place
2022-12-05 18:00
blameF not a single achievement in this year, not even in question of being the mvp in any tournament he played in. Stavn has wins, achievements and in my opinion he will be above broky. BlameF has his stats padded and baited out. Now that device is back that gameplay is gonna change and he will have to play without that.
2022-12-05 00:32
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BlameF has small mvp and has been in contesion for Cologne mvp also. + ranking takes achievments into consideration yeah, but its still mostly about stats, and BlameF has much better than broky, even if they are padded
2022-12-05 08:00
are you not having any faze players in top 5 despite them dominating the first half of 2022? Surely broky makes it
2022-12-08 00:32
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Nah I think NiKo will be in front because there is a big rating difference
2022-12-08 00:34
1 reply
idk man... he has good stats but he didn't even make the major. It cant be all rarting, there is a reason why tier 2 players for example never make the top 20 despite having crazy ratings and thats because results matter. Niko has been awful all year there should be no way.
2022-12-08 00:45
#5
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Italy alastt27
depends on blast world final, if ZywOo takes MVP and Vitality win, then ZywOo will be nr.1, otherwise s1mple.
2022-12-04 00:21
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im pretty sure navi and s1mple would have play a really bad tournament for that to happen. like finish last place with s1mple dropping the lowest performance of the year, maybe then.
2022-12-04 00:25
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#9
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Italy alastt27
not needed, s1mple will anyway not drop a 1.3 rating(bc he's not even playing cs go), and navi won't finish 1-4 for sure. I can tell your from my experience as a navi fan for 4 years.
2022-12-04 00:34
s1mple washed his stats so hard ... it could be enough for zywoo just to be better in stats if neither of them takes mvp damn ... everything depends on the last tournament
2022-12-04 00:35
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thing is zywoo has had less playoff peformances than s1mple, s1mple has played more playoff games so his stats will ofc go down due to playoofs being harder than groupstages so even if zywoo and vitality wins world finals (unlikely, faze and heroic aswell as outsiders are more likely to win it) they may give it to s1mple for having more deep event games and zywoo has had 2 1.10 ratings at big events this year, s1mple never had that
2022-12-04 04:27
#11
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Italy alastt27
if ZywOo gets MVP and Vita win it's done. And tbh s1mple doesn't deserve the nr.1, he is not even grinding cs go.
2022-12-04 00:35
3 replies
useless take, doesn t deserve? he WAS AND HE IS BY FAR THE BEST PLAYER OF 2022. Where was zywoo first 9 months ? even if he wins MVP of Blast World doesn t have ENOUGH play offs to be top 1 this will be the biggest robbery in the world.
2022-12-04 20:21
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#115
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Italy alastt27
9 months? ZywOo is dropping 1.31 avg rating last 6 months, your main argument is not valid at all. Be objective.
2022-12-04 20:49
1 reply
doesn t matter if he goes out in groupstage like he did entire year.
2022-12-04 22:06
They only beat fluxo in last event No fluxo in this event
2022-12-04 01:24
2 replies
They have Nipple now 😎
2022-12-04 14:34
Sadly there is no Ence in this event, so that they can again smash Vitality
2022-12-05 11:22
Even if s0.87mple does it again his rating will not drop too much as this is the last tournament and not many matches will be played. Zywoo needs to have at least 1.4+ rating + winning + mvp while s1mple being like 0.87 to have a real chance.
2022-12-04 01:41
#14
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
lol nah Zywoo this year hasn't been in the playoffs at these events: Katowice, EPL15, Antwerp Major, Cologne, Rio Major and didn't even qual for Fall Finals s1mple has been in every single playoffs of every single big tournament, his rating is still extremely close to Zywoo however his rating was significantly impacted due to his performance at both the Antwerp Major final and his recent games after the player break. If s1mple "doesn't deserve mvp" like you said in #11. Then why tf would Zywoo deserve it when he wasn't even present at most of the main events this year.
2022-12-04 01:10
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#16
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Italy alastt27
was at the play-offs or not means nothing, at the end the rating+MVPs+tournaments victories will conclude the nr.1. And ZywOo deserves it more simply bc he has more passion for the game, and I really hope he gets it, this will motivate s1mple to fukcing wake up and stop going to parties and post shit stories on instagram. ZywOo is younger than s1mple, and I think at the end he will be the one called GOAT if s1mple won't start grinding again.
2022-12-04 01:09
59 replies
#17
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
lmfao bruh his rating is extremely boosted by group stage stats, he has more than half of s1mples playoffs matches and hasn't been in the Grand Finals of any other event other than EPL16. You're forgetting that EVPs are also looked at, and without even making the playoffs of any of these big events would probably give him 0 EVPs at those and s1mple would get all of them. Also you're acting like Zywoo was godlike this entire year. You're also ignoring that s1mple has been outperforming every single player during the first half of the year. Literally letting recency bias guide your thoughts. Zywoo hasn't had to deal with nearly as much struggle as s1mple has this year lmfao your lack of sympathy for the guy makes you look like someone who thinks he plays to please you, when he doesn't.
2022-12-04 01:22
39 replies
#22
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Italy alastt27
recency bias? s1mple has been playing mediocre for half year already, ZywOo the opposite, playing like a god, Vitality won EPL only thanks to ZywOo. It's not lack of sympathy, it's just how it is, and anyway I lost a lot of respect for s1mple since the situation with sdy, playing like a dog and barking at teammates, that's not a thing that a goat should ever do. "makes you look like someone who thinks he plays to please you, when he doesn't.", wtf? He is literally playing faceit(not even fpl, with some russian streamers at 2k ELO) only 3 days before tournaments to get his form back, he literally did that before the major, and thought it was enough, the arrogance is also insane from him. If ZywOo will get atleast 1.4 rating at World Final, and s1mple will keep his from like that(looks like it, bc he doesn't play csgo since blast) he will easily get the nr.1 deserved spot, and he is actually already above in rating vs All.
2022-12-04 01:27
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#29
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
they have the same rating vs all LMFAO he's still higher vs top 20 by a large margin which is the main statistic that HLTV look at. also another LMFAO moment, You just described to me that you do in fact have recency bias... Zywoo was mediocre for the first 6 months of 2022, hell the first 2 big tournaments he played like absolute shit, and the rest he played like shit against actual good teams. Also saying he's been playing like a god in the second half of the year is actually hilarious to me, he had 1 good tournament, didn't even attend Blast Fall and went 1-3 at the Major where it was s1mple who destroyed him and he was getting carried by dupreeh... s1mple was also the best player in his team at Rio until the playoffs match, he was a huge reason they even made it that far. EPL was also proven to be one giant fluke, every single team has been slumping in the second half of the year not just NaVi. Even Vitality played like shit at every single event surrounding EPL. If Zywoo got the #1, that will be the most empty #1 card we've ever seen in CS history...
2022-12-04 01:39
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#34
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Italy alastt27
you are truly delusional. Let me do for you a reality check, if you will simply put in the filter Big Events 2022, you will see the difference is only 0.01 between s1mple and ZywOo, and at this point everything will be decided at blast.
2022-12-04 01:44
21 replies
#36
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
ye I don't think "you are truly delusional" is a valid argument for your brainless claims. filter again with these big events vs top 20 and 10, the gap between s1mple and zywoo gets wider and wider. Only at top 5 does Zywoo finally catch up but still isn't even ahead... At these Big Events, only 2 of them he had playoffs made at them. Dude didn't even get the chance to drop in rating this year because he bombs out way before he gets to that point... but hey, you've already made up your mind that someone who hasn't done shit for 90% of the year deserves #1 over a guy consistently performing well to gain deep runs throughout the entire year
2022-12-04 01:50
alastt27 i dont think you know how hltv top 20 works, rating and mvps matter but also evps which is a reuslt of good peforamnces from playofs players or godlike groupstage peformances zywoo had 1.10 rating 2 of the big events, s1mple never slumped that low, he still hovers 1.18+ when he slumps, also zywoo has only made 2 playoffs and didnt play blast fall and s1mple still has 0.01 rating over zywoo in all types of mathces apart from online because s1mple is a lan player and as of rn s1mple has around 4-6 evps and 2 mvps zywoo has 1 mvp and 1-2 evps so even if zywoo wins mvp of blast worlds, the evps will get s1mple over the line, and zywoo's mvp came from proleague not as prestrigue as cologne and didnt even have a crowd like blast spring ur stupid and dont know the hltv listings the top 5 will be s1mple zywoo sh1ro (zywoo and sh1ro are interchangable due to sh1ro having more playoofs than zywoo and a strong evp and better peformances at majors than zywoo) ax1le (iem dallas mvp and strong evps at proleague, katowice) broky/niko (broky has 2 mvps but has had more downs giving him 1.16 rating whereas niko has no mvps) and for fun i predict the top 10 outside tpo 5 will be broky/niko stavn blamef (1.20 big event rating 2 playoffs where he peformed good in and strong evp) kscerato (1.17 big evnet rating 4 playoffs) ropz (mvp and meaningful stats since he came first in most of them, also 1.13 which is pretty good and is valued high cause of 7 playoffs and 4 wins and strong evp at blast fall) the top 10 is moveable, but i did put in order i think will be (prior to blast finals, if broky peforms better than niko then niko is 6th, and if stavn wins blast worlds and mvp then put stavn 6th if broky plays dogshit)
2022-12-04 04:45
15 replies
+1 first actual good comment with actual proper arguments as to why s1mple is already top 1 since rio ended (due to EVPS) I told that 30 times maybe already so I stop now. :) Even in the most optimistic scenario for ZywOo he virtually can't be top 1 anymore, if anything the top 2 is still in contention between ZywOo and sh1ro if ZywOo was to underperform at world finals.
2022-12-05 00:05
14 replies
zywoo's stats are also also heavily boosted by non prestigue events like thorin said, you cant be goat if ur biggest event peformances are not up to par zywoo in 2022 at big big events katowice: 1.10 (9-12th) antwepr major: 1.19 (9-11th) cologne: 1.31 (9-12th) rio major: 1.08 (12-14th) this is apauling compare it to s1mple katowice: 1.28 (3-4th) antwerp major: 1.20 (2nd place) cologne: 1.25 (2nd place mvp) rio major: 1.18 (5-8th) he has peformed better than zywoo had every big event other than cologne but he won mvp and wnet to finals, it is harder to put up insane numbers when going deep into events because 1 bad maps sets ur rating down by alot but good ratings doesn't boost as much in ratio to bad maps
2022-12-06 06:25
12 replies
Yes, I would also add that Zywoo also underperformed massively at the first pro league with a 1.10 rating again (just like katowice) and of course with no playoffs. When you look back at it he was really really bad a the beginning of the year, even for any T1 awper, even more for his absurdly high standards.
2022-12-06 15:57
2 replies
He was learning english, of course he was playing like shit adapting to new comms what do you expect. Try playing CS in a language you don't know.
2022-12-06 23:33
1 reply
No one cares why you underperformed. You can find all excuses imaginable it won't change anything. He played bad, end of the story.
2022-12-07 03:44
Zywoo was also stuck with shit team mates unlike s1mple u should also see that. S1mple had better team mates than what zywoo had this yr. Which made s1mple life easier to get into play offs unlike zywoo.
2022-12-07 06:09
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#233
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Europe Khanan
Here we have another incredibly dumb take from you. Neither team has “shit team mates”, I bet you don’t have any friends in real life, that’s why you’re such a bitter L.
2022-12-07 12:38
bro s1mple has b1t who fucking is playing like dogshit eversince blast fall groups, elec hasnt had his impact eversince going igl, sdy is trying his best but cant do shit in the rpesecne of s1mple madling at him and perfecto is overpeforming in support roles his teamates by name arent shit but the way they peforming is shit zywoo has = teamates rn, spinx is ass rn but magisk and dupreeh have been playing abit better, also apex is a better igl than electronic
2022-12-07 13:01
6 replies
Magisk is inconsistent and really isn't good,u really think dupreeh is good?lmao he is another bot as well. S1mple team mates during first half of the yr where better than zywoo team mates by a huge margin uptill cologne. Zywoo team mates have been dogshit since the start of the yr.
2022-12-07 13:06
5 replies
i never said dupreeh is good, dont misquote me, i said dupreeh and magisk are pefroming abit better also zywoo didnt peform first half of the year, he had 1.10 ratings, s1mple has bad teamates rn and only droped to a 1.18 lowest, s1mple drops but doenst drop like zywoo does, thats the dfifference
2022-12-07 13:05
2 replies
I mean this is worst yr of zywoo honestly,and s1mple decent enough yr,u should see s1mple worst yr in 2019/2017 s1mple was far worst in those yrs than what zywoo is right now.
2022-12-07 13:09
1 reply
but even those years were like top 3 stats from s1mple
2022-12-09 06:44
#265
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Europe Khanan
Magisk 4x major winner “isn’t good” 😂 that’s some genius takes of toxic people here that have mental problems. Typical hltv moment
2022-12-07 19:11
1 reply
Mf magisk is 4x major not by himself first off,also current magisk and magisk in his peak r 2 different players. Typical Hltv meme flair/flag moments lmao.
2022-12-07 19:48
jexter nice to see someone not braindead in hltv forums lul
2022-12-06 06:26
Striker basically confirmed that s1mple will be top 1 lmfao. He said that ZywOo would need to win the major and get the major MVP in order to dethrone s1mple which didn't happen. uninformedAmerican can confirm what Striker said. I guess you don't know how the rankings work but missing all elite event playoffs (Cologne, Katowice, both majors) while your biggest rival played two elite event finals (where your biggest rival even got a MVP), one semi final and one quarter final isn't enough for you to overtake your biggest rival. ZywOo played 16 playoff maps compared to nearly 40 of s1mple this year; if you think that is enough, keep believing that. On top of that, s1mple has a close lead in nearly every category, impact, top5/10, KPR etc. Even if the stats are close, s1mple still leads but also has more EVPs, more playoff maps etc. Even if ZywOo wins the MVP at world finals, s1mple still has the same amount of MVPs but more EVPs, more playoff maps, a way better elite event rating etc. PS: Read #47
2022-12-05 10:37
3 replies
What is the point of 40 playoff maps when he disappears? Lmao
2022-12-05 11:27
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#202
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Ukraine d3adLY
What is the point to farm stats in group stage and dont go to playoffs?
2022-12-06 11:42
1 reply
+1 Rekt.
2022-12-07 12:50
#24
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Italy alastt27
I already called it before blast fall final that navi will lose bc of s1mple and that Heroic will win, and I call this again, they will lose, bc s1mple has no fucking passion, and he doesn't even deserve it, and it's the first time in years for me to think navi don't have chances to win, this should tell a lot to you.
2022-12-04 01:29
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#38
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
ye I wonder why the guy who has a war in his home country, only got to see his mother recently, is living out of a suitcase and has no actual place to live isn't passionate about a fucking video game... also acting like s1mple was the only reason they lost at Fall Finals is just so dumb to say because the entire team was playing like shit and s1mple wasn't even the worst of them.
2022-12-04 02:10
2 replies
#42
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Italy alastt27
sure, that's why he posts everyday photos from parties and shit on instagram, yeah, definetely full tilted. Go sleep man.
2022-12-04 02:21
1 reply
#48
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
"every day" I don't think I'm the one who needs sleep also I can also see that mental health isn't something you're mature enough to understand yet. Suffering from mental health issues =/= always being depressed and refraining from actually trying to live your life...
2022-12-04 02:40
"ZywOo extremly boosted group stage rating LMAOOO ZYWOO HAS MORE MAPS VS TOP 5 AND TOP 10 TEAMS ZywOo will get EVP from Blast Spring+Cologne ZywOo was only bad for 4 months when team changed 2 players+coach+language S1mple struggled cuz his personal bait was kicked lmao
2022-12-04 01:30
9 replies
#32
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
blaming language barrier XDDDDD very original XDDDDDDD also how many of those maps against top 5 and 10 were in playoffs XDDDDDD
2022-12-04 01:42
3 replies
Language barrier effects ingame comms Meanwhile fraud war doesnt effect anything in game
2022-12-04 09:47
2 replies
#69
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
zywoo first half of the year was missing easy shots and losing every clutch after baiting language doesn't make you lose your aim bro The war clearly affected mental and motivation, something I hope Zywoo or any other person for that matter never has to go through in their lives
2022-12-04 14:30
1 reply
hltv.org/stats/leaderboards/clutch/clutc.. Losing every clutch LMAO MORE CLUTCH THAN S1MPLE 1 LESS CLUTCH THAN M0NESY AND sh1ro He had 2 more maps than sh1ro 7 less maps than m0nesy
2022-12-04 14:46
#35
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
also why tf would he get EVP at Cologne? He played against shitters and still didn't make playoffs with only 1 win at the event LMFAAOO lost to Movistar and Mouz 'cause he's more focussed on baiting and farming than actually winning LMFAAOOO
2022-12-04 01:44
3 replies
1 reply
#68
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
against mouz XDDDDDD
2022-12-04 14:28
hahahaha, against shitters. He lost against the quarterfinalist and the semifinalist. nt though delusional s1mple fangirl.
2022-12-04 22:54
#37
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
Zywoo struggled because his personal bait, Kyojin left XDDDDDD Finally gets to replace him with spinx now though because dupreeh and magisk weren't enough bait for him XDDDDD
2022-12-04 01:51
stop wasting time with him man, this is exactly like 2020 s1mple had better overall stats but zywoo had better play offs stats and thats why he won top 1 same exact will happen in 2022. s1mple more play offs and better rating zywoo way far less play offs and still not better rating than s1mple.
2022-12-04 20:24
#19
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
Also s1mples other achievements this year: 3rd-4th - Katowice 2022 5th-8th - ESL Pro League Season 15 2nd - Antwerp Major 1st - Blast Spring Finals + MVP 2nd - Cologne 2022 + MVP 5th-8th - ESL Pro League Season 16 5th-8th - Rio Major 5th-6th - Blast Fall Finals Zywoos: 9th-12th - Katowice 2022 13th-16th - ESL Pro League Season 15 9th-11th - Antwerp Major 2nd - Blast Spring Finals 9th-12th - Cologne 2022 1st - ESL Pro League Season 16 + MVP 12th-14th - Rio Major Didn't attend - Blast Fall Finals s1mple has outperformed Zywoo at every single event this year except EPL16. Letting 2 tournaments decide whether or not he gets #1 would be absolutely ridiculous... Zywoo shouldn't even be considered for #1 at this point of the year. Also thinking Zywoo will be called "GOAT" soon is just dumb. The guy has never won a single Katowice, Cologne, or a Major. Has never been past the quarter finals of a Major. Hasn't got nearly the amount of MVPs as s1mple has in his career. He has an extremely long way to go before he reaches that status
2022-12-04 01:19
18 replies
LMAOOO Vitality 2-3 in EPL 15 hardest EPL group ever(Furia-Outsiders-Ence-Faze 2 finalist one semifinalist) didnt made playoffs NAVI 5-0 in EPL 15 Easiest group ever(Astralis AGO complexity EG LMAOOOO) Also NAVI was 2-3 in EPL 16 hltv.org/matches/2357705/natus-vincere-v.. This was their do or die match but luckily ZywOo destroyed Spirit and put S0mple to the playoffs S0mple should thank him for carrying NAVI to playoffs Antwerp Cologne Rio Blast Fall Final All this events Ukranian fraud disappered ZywOo back to back 1.5 rating to carry his team to trophy S0mple b2b2b red maps, s0.87mple vs Furia s0.87mple vs Faze Disappaered in Cologne final Disapered vs Rez in Blast Fall Meanwhile ZywOo was playing his best in playoffs breaking records in bo5 final
2022-12-04 10:04
14 replies
#116
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
broke a record while struggling against LULquid LMFAAOO Zywho can only perform when the entire scene is collectively slumping. And even then he goes 1-3 at the most important event of the year XDDDD Zywoo also dropped a 0.37 rating in a map against the same team that s1mple struggled against during the first 6 months of 2022. Outperforming zywho consistently even with his irl problems. Also your main argument is again after s1mple just came out of a break XDDD And like I said, s1mple has to go on a break and stop playing the game entirely just to give Zywho a chance to catch up and even then he and the rest of Fraudtality still failed to make Blast Fall and the playoffs at Rio XDDDDDD
2022-12-04 21:04
2 replies
S0mple broken by war so he is chilling in dubai and playing mm vs pakistanis lmaooooooo
2022-12-04 21:58
LULquid owns s0mple lmao
2022-12-04 22:00
#118
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
hltv.org/matches/2354552/vitality-vs-faz.. the main event before Antwerp Major your so-called "GOAT" couldn't even go 0.4+ against Prime FaZe on an actual good map XDDDDDD
2022-12-04 21:12
8 replies
He was best player on mirage by far and dust 2 was blowout so he expected to have bad rating there are you dumb or what? hltv.org/matches/2359817/faze-vs-vitalit.. ?
2022-12-04 21:57
7 replies
#139
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
are all your matches you're going to show me the ones where every team were in a slump? Zywho slump abuser confirmed
2022-12-04 22:59
6 replies
Faze had good bootcamp before major they said it No thats the stockholm fraud covid major winner who only wins vs teams who are going to change roster
2022-12-04 23:02
5 replies
#144
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
bootcamp means you can't be in a slump? LMFAO the delusion NaVi start of this year only lost to G2 2 days after the war broke out, then the only team they lost to was Peak FaZe. Even after losing their IGL they shit on Zywho XDDD poor Dupreeh and Magisk will never see another Major playoffs with this fraud in their team... NaVi 13-2 vs Zywho in the last 2 years XDDD s1mple had to take a break just for the fraud to catch up and get a win XDDD Zywhos biggest career win is a 100 person crowd event XDDDD Not even Katowice, Cologne or a Major LMFAAAAOO
2022-12-04 23:54
3 replies
So Navi only lost to Faze at start of the year? So Fraud war is not an excuse LMAO S0mple can only win Studio katowice or cologne or covid major lmao Or needs Zeus to drop 30 bomb vs Prime Astralis and carry his baiter ass to win a t1 trophy Lmao
2022-12-05 07:43
1 reply
#182
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
lmfao it just goes to show how good they were really country at war, hardly practicing and they still managed to stay on top of all teams and even convincingly beat FaZe at Katowice, the same FaZe that would dominate the next 6 months. "Studio Katowice" apparently you also don't know what you're talking about LMFFAOO Zywho disappeared in 2020 and literally re-emerged when online era came about HAHAHA where was all his wins when we went back to LAN? Oh ye, no where to be seen LMFAAOOO except for IEM Winter that was, oh shit ye, a studio LAN that NaVi didn't attend LMFAAOOOO entire scene had to go in a collective slump in 2022 for Zywho to finally win something and even then he went back to shitting the bed the second things got slightly more difficult. XDDDDD
2022-12-05 12:49
Magisk and Dupreeh wouldnt see major with Asstralis lmaooo
2022-12-05 07:44
#146
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
Also FaZe played like shit at EPL as well, therefore, were also included in the teams that were in a slump. Zywho peaking during a time Outsiders with the easiest bracket in the Major managed to win it XDDDD
2022-12-05 00:00
#119
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
also even in the easiest group zywho would flop the playoffs LMFAAAOO couldn't even beat Movistar and Mouz at Cologne ahahahahahahahaa
2022-12-04 21:13
1 reply
Zywoo no playoff bo3 under 1.05 this year unlike s0.87mple and s0.89mple?
2022-12-04 22:12
+1
2022-12-04 17:34
nobody in this existent world believes zywoo has a chance at top 1 only zywoo fans and by that i mean at exactly 2 : - SLIGHTLY_DELUSIONAL_ZYWOO_FAN - Superex123 Even Maniac that is the biggest zywoo fan in the world said that s1mple is top 1 of 2022.
2022-12-04 20:29
1 reply
+ Striker confirmed that. Why do you bother with these 2 clowns anyway? Just let them j**k off to their idol, it's funny to read anyway
2022-12-05 11:56
i dont think so. S1mple still slightly higher stats + one mvp more. Even if zywoo wins with wonderful raiting, and both will have same stats and mvps, s1mple still has more playoff apperiances, more EVPs, better team achievments and Impaxt raiting advantqge is also too high in favour of s1mple
2022-12-04 14:40
#218
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Russia super_rat
delusional, G2 win, m0nesy & Niko both MVP + top1
2022-12-06 23:28
#6
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Guam iceice_baby
s1,zywoo,sh1ro,Ax1Le,broky,Twistzz,ropz,NiKo,stavn & KSCERATO top10 rain,electronic,m0nesy,yuurih,YEKINDAR,blameF,Spinx,Jame +2
2022-12-04 00:23
1. s1mple 2. zywoo 3. broky 4. sh1ro 5. ropz 6. ax1le 7. rain 8. Jame 9. blamef 10. twistzz 11. yekindar 12. stavn 13. KSCERATO 14. niko 15. m0nesy 16. spinx 17. yuurih 18. NAF 19. hunter 20. Magisk thoughts?
2022-12-04 00:33
13 replies
frozen missing
2022-12-04 01:00
1 reply
maybe place him instead of hunter and switch places with magisk
2022-12-04 01:28
rain and jame are too high, ik they have major mvp but major mvp alone doesnt boost you that much whole faze lineup is also very overrated in this list yekinidar prob lower, niko higher
2022-12-04 01:36
4 replies
Jame makes a lot of impact. rain got a lot of evps in this year. i guess broky will be lower than sh1ro, but broky has 2 mvps, when sh1ro has only 1 on a shit event with tier 2 teams. i will agree with yekindar, i placed him too high, but he is doing a big stuff for liquid, i bet if liquid can reach blast finals, he will be in top 10 for sure. should be niko actually higher in the top with 0 trophies? and dont forget, this is all my opinion =)
2022-12-04 02:04
2 replies
as a liquid fan, i would say to replace magisk with elige but elige is too inconsistent :(
2022-12-04 02:37
1 reply
FeelsBadMan for elige
2022-12-04 03:14
#53
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China RADNIKEY
+1 I also highly doubt Magisk will make it
2022-12-04 03:24
#82
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Estonia EquitaS
rain & Jame overrated. They can be like top9-10/10-11 not higher. Magisk off the top. YEKINDAR in top 10. frozen instead of Magisk. At all - pretty close to reality.
2022-12-04 15:04
#87
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Turkey Joper
Ax1le>Ropz
2022-12-04 17:35
I really hope spinx makes it he showed in the first half of the year it is so sad if he does not
2022-12-04 22:16
1 reply
i guess he need a evp in blast finals for top 20
2022-12-04 22:17
monesy out -elige in
2022-12-04 22:28
1 reply
2 people enough from g2.... in my opinion elige better than monesy in 2022. however not only elige but also monesy should not be in top 20
2022-12-04 22:33
s1mple top1 unless zywoo goes ham in global finals
2022-12-04 00:41
Yes.
2022-12-04 00:42
#18
podi | 
Finland Mat0n1
Can REZ make it to the list?
2022-12-04 01:15
2 replies
No
2022-12-04 02:44
Aleksibob has higher chances
2022-12-04 22:16
S0mple wont even be top 3. 3.Shiro 2.Zywoo 1.Farlig
2022-12-04 01:24
#26
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Europe Khanan
Last tournament world finals could determine if S1mple is #1 or not. So far he is, check statistics and mvps
2022-12-04 01:30
24 replies
Striker from HLTV said ZywOo would have to win Rio and get MVP in order to dethrone s1mple this year. Anyone who follows how HLTV determines the rankings knows that this year is already a done deal. -- Random American
2022-12-04 02:39
23 replies
#54
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Europe Khanan
It’s not a done deal, if Zywoo or rain make mvp in World Final it will be interesting Also I told you already to not talk to me. You’re a troll and baiter
2022-12-04 03:47
22 replies
But he is correct, Striker said that
2022-12-04 14:30
12 replies
Clearly Striker doesn't know anything about how the ranking process works in comparison to THE Khanan.
2022-12-04 19:22
3 replies
#92
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Europe Khanan
Yes, kiss my feet. :)
2022-12-04 19:33
Khanan is the unknown site owner, friend :)
2022-12-04 20:13
1 reply
Well then he better tell Striker to stop lying about the Top 20 ranking guidelines! Lmao
2022-12-04 20:29
#91
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Europe Khanan
It can’t be a done deal if Zywoo is right behind him with 1 MVP won and similar ratings nearly, so if Zywoo shines in this tournament not only can he surpass s1mple rating but also equal his MVP. it’s a done deal when I see it.
2022-12-04 19:33
7 replies
yea he is close to s1mple in rating cuz he played only 2 play offs if s1mple didn t played every single play offs of big events he wouldve had like 1,35 rating like in his peak years 2018 and 2021. But because he played those his rating got worse meanwhile zywoo farmed groupstage rating. So striker is right is a done deal.
2022-12-04 20:36
6 replies
#113
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Europe Khanan
That’s an argument I can accept.
2022-12-04 20:38
But ZywOo has better playoff rating and broke the bo5 record lmao
2022-12-04 22:00
4 replies
how do u know he has better play off rating ? only HLTV has that filter so nice try. With 2 play offs appearence i believe he has better rating thats logical.
2022-12-04 22:05
3 replies
I see someone made the list a few weeks ago It was Zywoo Sh1ro S1mple in playoff rating Also it is common knowledge cuz ZywOo didnt ghost in the playoffs he played 1.37 vs Outsiders in EPL 1.42 vs G2 in EPL 1.39 vs Liquid in EPL 1.41 vs Ence in Blast Spring 1.21 vs G2 in Blast Spring 1.05 vs NAVI in Blast Spring
2022-12-04 22:10
2 replies
you realise how dumb are you right ? You compare 2 event playoffs that is not even Major,Cologne or Katowice to EVERY SINGLE PLAYOFF PLAYED by s1mple lol
2022-12-04 23:30
1 reply
Yeah, that's the argument everyone misses, you can't be top 1 if you missed playoffs of every elite event (Katowice, Cologne, both majors). s1mple played 2 elite event finals where he even got a MVP (Cologne), played one elite event semi final and one quarter final. In addition, he has a better rating against the best teams in the world and he has a higher impact rating. Sure, ZywOo can't win it alone but this is how the ratings work at the end of the day.
2022-12-05 09:22
"Also I told you already to not talk to me. You’re a troll and baiter" My apologies, I have no idea who you are. Take care :) -- Average American
2022-12-04 19:22
7 replies
#90
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Europe Khanan
Oh you know, unless your brain doesn’t work. We already talked on your other account “uninformedEuropean”, troll. Get a life.
2022-12-04 19:31
6 replies
Not sure why you are being so hostile, especially considering "uninformedEuropean" is an entirely different person. But you are entitled to believe whatever you choose to believe and I will not hold your misunderstanding against you. Be well my friend <3 -- Forgiving American
2022-12-04 19:35
5 replies
#97
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Europe Khanan
Keep trolling and lying. But still you should get a life, solve your deep issues. It’s really not my problem, I’m laughing about it.
2022-12-04 19:43
4 replies
You seem to have deep issues because they definitely are completely different persons lmfao
2022-12-04 20:10
3 replies
#106
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Europe Khanan
A guy named “whisky rum cognac” is telling me I have deep issues, can’t even come up with an original insult of himself. Bro you’re low iq and you don’t have proof. Go talk to someone else :) not worth my time
2022-12-04 20:25
2 replies
"A guy named “whisky rum cognac” is telling me I have deep issues, can’t even come up with an original insult of himself." Please tell me English isn't your first language.
2022-12-04 20:27
1 reply
#111
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Europe Khanan
You resort to attack the grammar or language of the other guy if you’re truly a meaningless person and have nothing to say. That said, bye :) - ignored. Enough time wasted here.
2022-12-04 20:35
bro tried to sneak in rain as if rain could even miss the top 10
2022-12-04 20:16
Brollan will be no. 1
2022-12-04 01:39
#40
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North America soduk_db
1. device 2. device 3. device 4. device 5. device 6. device 7. device 8. device 9. device 10. device 11. device 12. device 13. device 14. device 15. device 16. device 17. device 18. device 19. device 20. device
2022-12-04 02:10
3 replies
that's pretty true
2022-12-04 03:49
Where is spinx?
2022-12-04 22:18
lmaoooooo device at 20th place what a loser amirite
2022-12-07 18:09
probably karrigan top 1 this year, hes proven that hes the goat igl and deserving of the top 1 spot
2022-12-04 02:25
#56
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Brazil Mandarjn
1. ZywOo 2. sh1ro 3. Ax1le 4. s1mple 5. YEKINDAR/Twistzz
2022-12-04 03:54
I'm sure that HLTV treats blast events as s tier which they are definitely not lol.
2022-12-04 04:25
6 replies
#59
ZywOo | 
France Alyta
+1
2022-12-04 04:27
+1
2022-12-04 09:55
#96
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Thailand new!
spring & fall finals are arguable but world finals is definitely S tier
2022-12-04 19:37
1 reply
i dont know man 8 teams with shit format and the first two teams are going directly through to the semi final
2022-12-04 20:34
literally 6 out of 8 top 10 teams "not s tier"
2022-12-05 11:37
It's dependant on the attending teams overall but it's definitely S-Tier in that regard.
2022-12-06 10:23
Dont know but GOAT JUNIOR or Farlig could be the '#1'
2022-12-04 04:29
1. s1mple 2. zywoo/sh1ro 3. sh1ro/zywoo 4. ax1le 5. broky/niko 6. niko/broky 7. stavn 8. blamef 9. kscerato 10. ropz/m0nesy 11. m0nesy/ropz (depending on if hltv will value m0nesy's recenbt form more than ropz's consistency) 12. twistzz 13. Jame 14. spinx 15. naf 16. yekindar 17. rain 18. hunter 19. elige 20. fl1t top 5 is locked top 10-5 can be changed but im pretty sure that will be the order top 20-10 are all interchangable depedning on stats i missed or what hltv values outside top 10 i only really know what hltv values in the top 11 hltv values rating mvps (reasons why ax1le palced above hobbit and elec last year, his mvps were at better events than hobbit) (why sh1or's weak 2 iem fall cis and v4 mvps didnt push him over niko) peak (a player like ax1le was higher than hobbit cause he had higher peeks at better events like 1.33 at iem summer compared to hobbit at 1.32 at a cis league measily, also 1.28 second best at proleague for ax1le compared to hobbit 1.24 at dreamhack spring) playoffs peformance and vs top 5/10 (and how much played), (also how many evps you earn propotional to playoofs performances cause you onlky really get evps from good playoff peformaces) (why niko outplaced sh1ro) are your ratings inflated from qualifiers (rmr, blast showdown/groups, iem qualifiers, na events) (reasons why frozen's, elige and naf's numbers are high despite 0.88-0.9 ratings at big events for elige and naf) consistency (this is why b1t cant be higher than 10th)
2022-12-04 05:01
13 replies
Really good list, in my opinion though, NAF is waaayy too high and yekindar wayy too low, both due to impact. I don't see a world where NAF is higher than elige or yeki when yekindar has 10000x more impact and even better rating. Kscerato should be knocked down 1 or 2 aswell imo in place of yeki above him
2022-12-04 14:39
#81
Snax | 
Europe Jezynt
Hunter 💀💀💀
2022-12-04 14:49
lil bro put m0nesy in the list lmfaooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
2022-12-05 00:25
1 reply
#180
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Brazil flytw4tp
delusional asf if you think m0nesy is out of Top20 xDDD
2022-12-05 12:13
#178
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Canada Zenrod
rain is at least top 12.
2022-12-05 12:04
#181
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Brazil flytw4tp
good list except rain is too low, he was mvp at the major and overall he had a great year pretty sure broky and ropz will made it to Top10 and twistzz and rain top15
2022-12-05 12:14
5 replies
thing is idk what hltv will value for rain, sure he has mvp at major and solid evp at proleague but his other events are kinda bad-mid he is sitting on a 1.09 rating overall (this is prob one of the worse if not worse in the list) and his consistency is one of the worse in the top 20 so depending on how hltv values his 2 solid evps at proleague and cologne and mvp at major, he will go up or down but i put him low since everyone else above him have better stats or more evps and maybe even a major mvp like jame
2022-12-06 06:20
4 replies
Very high impact rating, good adr, major mvp and big event evps. He wont be far off twistzz in the ranking
2022-12-06 11:18
3 replies
he only has 1 big event evp at colgone pro league maybe blast fall maybe (but he went from 1.31-1.09 so maybe no) he has 1mvp 1-2 evps not that good
2022-12-07 12:59
2 replies
And what does twistzz have?
2022-12-07 15:33
1 reply
atleast 5 evps from big events better rating than rain more consistent
2022-12-09 06:45
Where is frozen ?
2022-12-07 19:56
1 reply
hmm maybe replace him with elige, but thing is even last year when elige was dogshit, he got into top 20, so thats why and since frozne wasnt last year, i thoguht maybe they might not but now after looking at the stats, you can def make a argument to replace elige with frozen
2022-12-09 06:47
1. s1mple 2. sh1ro 3. ZyWoO 4. Ax1Le 5. NiKo/blameF
2022-12-04 09:50
everyone saying some riflers expect blamef bro wtf? he is literally top1 rifle
2022-12-04 14:32
1 reply
#75
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Russia Soawii
shit team results so he drops lower
2022-12-04 14:36
#77
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Italy PhilD06
maybe yes maybe no
2022-12-04 14:39
#80
Snax | 
Europe Jezynt
Sunpayus god top 1 2023
2022-12-04 14:48
1 reply
yes
2022-12-06 11:09
JAME #1
2022-12-04 19:34
HLTV should consider rating more things than just "stats". The game has changed in the last years and many things are not tangible and cannot be measured.
2022-12-04 19:36
1 reply
#117
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Russia Soawii
Yes but this creates a lot unconsistency because nobody knows how it works in the team and what value any IGL/moral booster provides. So it makes more sense to just be consistent and do top 20 of star players by stats
2022-12-04 21:09
top3 awp abusers as always ResidentSleeper
2022-12-04 20:11
1 reply
+1 Ax1le top 1 Sh1ro top 2
2022-12-05 00:13
#122
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North America minte
Jame FL1T fame rest are irrelevant
2022-12-04 22:00
nexa
2022-12-04 22:57
#143
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Hungary PreS
noo dont think so
2022-12-04 23:48
#148
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Brazil ImReverx
caçarato top 10 inc.
2022-12-05 00:08
depends on blast world if s1mple plays bad and zywoo wins the tournament then and mvp zywoo can be number 1
2022-12-05 00:08
2 replies
No.
2022-12-05 00:31
0/8
2022-12-05 09:22
no device will be
2022-12-05 00:19
Of course S1mple will be no1 The more important question is where will Niko and Baitf be when they didn't even participate the second major.
2022-12-05 00:32
#167
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Sweden Noxerius
currygun nr 1
2022-12-05 10:33
#168
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Denmark anderswly
Device best rating this year
2022-12-05 10:37
s1mple ZywOo sh1ro Ax1Le NiKo/Broky
2022-12-06 10:27
4 replies
Instead of Niko / broky I'd go for ropz / cadiaN
2022-12-06 14:54
2 replies
Ropz/CadiaN at Top 5?
2022-12-06 15:02
Cadian will be lucky if he can make top 20 and ropz will be lucky if he can make top 8 lol
2022-12-07 00:01
+1 Best list so far
2022-12-07 12:44
s1mple sh1ro ZywOo NiKo blameF Ax1le
2022-12-06 10:55
5 replies
Sh1ro won't be top 2,zywoo will be,Niko and blamef aren't higher than ax1le as well.
2022-12-06 11:40
4 replies
i think he will be. based on rating, as well as some other stats.
2022-12-06 13:23
3 replies
Zywoo stats r better than sh1ro on top of that MVP as well.
2022-12-06 13:24
2 replies
hltv.org/stats/leaderboards?startDate=20.. this is what i am looking at.
2022-12-06 13:26
1 reply
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/11893/zyw.. Zywoo impact ratings is higher than sh1ro on top of that his stats against top 20 is better than sh1ro as well. Not to mention he can farm stats from blast world finals tournament unlike sh1ro. Not to mention he has 1 mvp on top of that sh1ro has no chance to get top 2 this yr.
2022-12-06 13:38
1-2 Zywoo S1mple 3 Sh1ro 4 Ax1le 5-20 idk , ofc not a Niko as a 5th player with no trophy P.s Ropz Twistzz Broky shoud be in 5-7 places
2022-12-06 11:15
1-2 regali, regali 3-4 regali, regali 5-20 zypOo, s0mple, sh0r0, ax0l0tle, n1ko, ropzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz twistzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz brokey rain kargan worldedit someonepayus apEseX x0nt0res t0nz LaY d0v0ce
2022-12-06 14:49
#215
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Denmark NaNDO4j
The real top 20. come here! 1 - ZywOo 2 - s1mple 3 - sh1ro 4 - broky 5 - YEKINDAR 6 - Ax1le 7 - Niko 8 - blameF 9 - kscerato 10 - jame 11 - twistzz 12 - spinx 13 - ropz 14 - stavn 15 - rain 16 - hObbit 17 - yuurih 18 - FL1T 19 - ELIGE 20 - NAF
2022-12-06 16:06
7 replies
xi wu not even number 2, YEKINDAR higher the ax1le? lel
2022-12-07 03:47
0/8 giga delusional
2022-12-07 06:11
No Stavn ? Are u dumb
2022-12-07 10:12
4 replies
stavn is 14th.
2022-12-07 13:16
2 replies
My bad Dont see it
2022-12-07 16:03
1 reply
I had a feeling that was the case. :)
2022-12-07 17:41
#288
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Denmark NaNDO4j
xD
2022-12-13 00:43
s1mple is lucky that JamYoung didn't attend any tier 1 tournaments this year
2022-12-07 06:10
Definetly Stavn will be here
2022-12-07 10:10
s1mple's EVP (whether you believe it is deserved or not, given Team Spirit's lack of EVPs in Antwerp) and ZywOo's lack of playoffs in Rio guarantees the top 1 spot. I personally don't think sh1ro should be ranked above ZywOo, but there is a potential. As for the rest of the list, I'm mainly interested to see where blameF will end up -- how much, if at all, his playstyle will affect the weighting of his stats. How high Jame goes with his major MVP will also be interesting to see.
2022-12-07 10:31
2 replies
It's not only this EVP we know s1mple is probably EVP of almost every single event he played in this year (if not all). The moment ZywOo bombed out of Rio with a 1.08 rating, s1mple's top 1 was confirmed. In HLTV confirmed they pretty much implied that for ZywOo to be back in contention for top 1, he would at the very least need the major MVP and even then he would have been a little behind s1mple, because s1mple still had an overall great performance at Antwerp, being a contender for MVP with b1t, and was simply too consistent event after event, despite the very difficult circumstances he lives in.
2022-12-07 12:57
1 reply
+1 ZywOo also lacks an EVP from Antwerp and didn't make playoffs of any elite event (both majors, Cologne, Katowice).
2022-12-07 14:54
depending on how Blast final goes, jame can land in top 5 (he has major MVP)
2022-12-07 10:39
5 replies
#234
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Canada Zenrod
depending on how Blast final goes, rain can land in top 1 (he has major MVP)
2022-12-07 12:41
2 replies
nice try but faze won't even make semis
2022-12-07 14:42
1 reply
#281
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Canada Zenrod
nice try but outsiders won't even get out of groups
2022-12-08 01:45
Clueless, gl to jame on getting top 10
2022-12-07 17:45
#274
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Ukraine d3adLY
no way, jame is barely top 15
2022-12-07 23:36
1 - s1mple 2 - ZywOo 3 - sh1ro 4 - broky 5 - Ax1le 6 - YEKINDAR 7 - jame 8 - NiKo ? 9 - kscerato 10 - ropz 11 - twistzz 12 - stavn 13 - blameF 14 - spinx 15 - rain 16 - hObbit 17 - yuurih 18 - FL1T 19 - SunPayus 20 - NAF
2022-12-07 16:15
3 replies
Actually a pretty good list, a lot of people left kscerato out of theirs.
2022-12-07 17:00
1. simple 2. Zywoo 3. Shiro 4. Kscerato 5. Axile 6. Niko 7. BlameF 8. Broky 9. Axile 10. Jame 11. Twistzz 12. Yekindar 13. Ropz 14. Stavn 15. Monesy 16. Cadian 17. Flit 18. Yuurih 19. Rez 20. Spinx Its a close one from 12-20. Many players had a great form but not consistently, monesy had mvp, flit was crazy at rio, spinx better in ence, yekindar better as stand in etc… The biggest upset from last year: Bit, electronic, elige, hunter
2022-12-08 00:01
1 reply
Kscerato wont be anywhere close to top 5. This list is extremely bad
2022-12-13 00:56
S1mple Sh1ro Zywoo Ax1le BlameF/Broky
2022-12-07 18:22
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