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Liquid -oSee
Twistzz | 
Finland r1CEsT1CK 
I like oSee but he isnt the awper liquid need. Eho would you swap oSee for? Personally i’d love to see wonderful on liquid.
2022-12-04 16:14
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I dont like oSee and agree with you
2022-12-04 16:15
3 replies
Feels bad for oSee
2022-12-04 16:16
i dont dislike osee but liquid should've fought for device
2022-12-05 21:47
Maybe Woxic can replace him. Woxic benched himself at EF.
2022-12-06 11:44
shiro
2022-12-04 16:15
5 replies
#9
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Poland qwerzty
He would need to join pasha London school before joining TL
2022-12-04 16:17
3 replies
Didn’t pasha leave tl
2022-12-04 16:23
2 replies
even if he did its not the point
2022-12-05 13:49
1 reply
He did leave but yesh english
2022-12-05 13:56
#150
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Iraq Maspiyuuu
he bad englando ma fren
2022-12-06 05:21
i think nitr0 is more of a problem than osee
2022-12-04 16:16
23 replies
nitro isnt the biggest problem. elige and naf wouldnt be happy if nitro got benched
2022-12-04 16:17
10 replies
#11
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Poland qwerzty
Why not?
2022-12-04 16:18
3 replies
what?
2022-12-04 16:20
2 replies
why is he not the biggest problem
2022-12-05 21:50
1 reply
he is igl played with elige and naf in 2019. Igl doesnt really have to put up numbers as good as rest of team (faze) my point is oSee should get benched if he doesnt step up.
2022-12-06 20:20
elige is literally disappearing il all their important matches
2022-12-04 17:47
5 replies
maybe he needs to take break and reset
2022-12-04 17:48
3 replies
he needs to stop being a man baby, that's it
2022-12-04 18:32
2 replies
#87
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United States Phanji
we are talking about elige not s1mple
2022-12-04 18:43
#148
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Sweden hxm__
Real
2022-12-06 05:14
#90
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United States charybids
+1 this has been Liquid's biggest problem this season
2022-12-04 18:45
He's really not, there's plenty of igl's that have bad ratings, but being an awper with the 4th best rating is unacceptable
2022-12-04 17:39
9 replies
Depends. If your rifle trio is elige, naf and yekindar then you're fine. If you simply watch their games you clearly see osee is not the problem.
2022-12-04 19:33
2 replies
bro he misses almost every shot
2022-12-06 01:43
1 reply
He really doesn't
2022-12-06 17:10
his ratings have been pitiful, like .7s and .8s in most matches
2022-12-05 21:49
2 replies
I understand and I do have a feeling he's on his way out soon, but I don't see liquid winning events with a new igl, not many options. The only good move I can see is if one of the liquid veterans or yeki start calling since they seem to understand the game a lot and can pick up another star fragger (maybe twistzz wants to come back).
2022-12-06 00:36
1 reply
i dont see twistzz coming back any time soon
2022-12-06 05:22
#136
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Germany l3oNmC
In CS there is something called "space" and it is limited. You basically cannot have 5 s1mples in your team with a 1.3 rating each. Normally your AWPer is one of your star players, which makes sense bc you buy him the 5k AWP instead of 3k Rifle and this "AWPer" then ofc needs to get better rating/impact than the Rilfers. In Liquid however you give your 3 Rilfers (NAF, Elige, Yekindar) so much of that so called "space" that you simply dont have enough of it to get another player (oSee here) better stats. Just watch more CS and understand the game better. oSee is not the problem, he fits perfectly in the kind of supportive/second calling AWPer and does a good job atm.
2022-12-06 01:09
2 replies
This isn't 2019 Liquid where stew and nitro would frag out but still be limited in the number of kills they could get. The fragging on this Liquid is super inconsistent, there's definitely room for osee to get more kills when yekindar has a bad game.
2022-12-06 02:01
1 reply
#155
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Germany l3oNmC
If they can switch the roles of their players midgame for set plays yes. But this would be so confusing for the players that it would backfire.
2022-12-06 11:39
I think Elige is a bigger problem than nitr0 and oSee combined
2022-12-04 18:40
N1tro does a lot for the team. no he doesnt frag high like 90% of the time but he is genuinely not a bad IGL and can be a good entry when yeki isnt. plus the chemistry between the core of liquid is necessary as we saw when nitro left the first time.
2022-12-05 13:46
w0nderful is a known cheater, I'd bring in ZywOo
2022-12-04 16:16
12 replies
send proof
2022-12-04 16:17
2 replies
not cheater but did match fix when he was 15
2022-12-05 21:50
1 reply
proof
2022-12-06 20:17
He’s kinda overrated imo not zywoo
2022-12-04 16:23
7 replies
what
2022-12-04 16:37
6 replies
Meant wonderful is a little overrated too passive but has quick flicks
2022-12-04 16:58
5 replies
thought you said zywoo was overrated xd
2022-12-04 17:07
1 reply
xd
2022-12-04 17:13
hes passive cuz thats the role that spirit gave him, its the reason why they got him over more aggressive awpers. When he originally joined the team magixx talked about how he was fine with playing passive roles. And recently patsi talked about how degster being aggressive made the team worse and more...
2022-12-04 17:21
2 replies
Ik I think the reason they got a passive one was for patsi to be aggressive
2022-12-04 17:36
1 reply
ye i think so, that would make sense
2022-12-04 17:44
#152
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Iraq Maspiyuuu
s1mple also cheaters in the past so what your problem
2022-12-06 05:22
broky
2022-12-04 16:17
16 replies
spicy. would be cool
2022-12-04 16:17
Would actually be an insane team with the yeki broky combo but broky aint going anywhere
2022-12-04 16:18
11 replies
I know he won't be going anytime soon but it's a nice thought :D
2022-12-04 16:19
2 best latvian players on same team
2022-12-04 16:20
9 replies
Imagine Yekindar would start the round with a clean 2k opening and broky would close it with a clean 1v2 :D
2022-12-04 16:34
3 replies
who gets the 1 kill left over?
2022-12-04 17:43
2 replies
Depends, if its an important match probably nitr0, if its vs t3 NA probably Elige, if its anything in between its between oSee / NAF fighting for it
2022-12-04 17:48
1 reply
i guess so
2022-12-04 17:49
*only Latvian players
2022-12-04 17:28
4 replies
xd
2022-12-04 17:42
wym? I'm sure Liquid could use Keen aswell :D
2022-12-04 17:48
lol
2022-12-05 14:06
yekindar and broky 2v5 ez latvian era 2023
2022-12-06 01:25
if what many said was true that faze would drop him liquid needs to get broky at any cost
2022-12-05 21:50
2 replies
Nah broky has been carrying faze a lot why would they want to drop him now?
2022-12-05 22:29
1 reply
tons on here said they would drop him after their major fail, i dont think so but if true liquid need to get him
2022-12-06 05:21
i agree with u but NA doesnt have any better awper
2022-12-04 16:18
6 replies
thats why u get players from EU/CIS
2022-12-04 16:21
4 replies
All bots Thats why complexity got halzerk
2022-12-04 16:41
3 replies
i mean i wouldnt put it like that but yes
2022-12-04 17:42
complexity was too scared of goat junior's skills and benched him
2022-12-05 21:51
1 reply
facts
2022-12-06 01:25
#22
REZ | 
Belgium w4lt3r
doesnt have to be na awper
2022-12-04 16:21
obviously they are going to pick up s1mple
2022-12-04 16:19
#18
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Turkey bizonSX
woxic
2022-12-04 16:20
5 replies
washed :/
2022-12-04 16:21
#23
REZ | 
Belgium w4lt3r
he is more inconsistent than osee
2022-12-04 16:22
2 replies
oSee is actually 2x better than him, even while being inconsistent AF
2022-12-05 21:41
1 reply
#130
REZ | 
Belgium w4lt3r
that is what i said
2022-12-06 00:08
#30
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Thailand Benzto33
online top1 on lan not sure
2022-12-04 16:30
m0nesy
2022-12-04 16:22
1 reply
ahh yes
2022-12-04 17:45
Smooya
2022-12-04 16:23
2 replies
Smooooooyaaaaaaa
2022-12-04 17:43
+1
2022-12-06 01:26
The only issue with oSee is his game sense. He has tier 1 talent with a tier 4 brain. Spent too much time farming NA online CS and refusing offers from big teams in order to stay in his comfort zone. Was really detrimental to his game.
2022-12-04 16:24
2 replies
i think the extra salt lineup is probably what killed his career for me, he shouldve been in tier 1 in a real team by then
2022-12-05 21:52
1 reply
True. You can tell just from watching him on LAN that he has some intense social anxiety going on. I can understand why he was nervous or afraid of joining a real team when he could've. It's just unfortunate because he wasted the immense potential he once had.
2022-12-06 00:15
#29
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United States j3tta
-oSee +Wardell
2022-12-04 16:29
1 reply
Wardell to busy farming valorant noobs sadly
2022-12-04 17:00
Literally every awper in top 50 can replace him.
2022-12-04 16:37
1 reply
hes not that bad :/
2022-12-04 17:46
#37
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Portugal laskin
w0nderful but... no englando
2022-12-04 17:02
4 replies
are you sure he doesnt speak english?
2022-12-04 17:47
2 replies
#73
podi | 
Finland Mat0n1
Not well enough to play in an english speaking team
2022-12-04 17:52
#83
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Portugal laskin
For what I saw in major flash interview, not enough for pro play...
2022-12-04 18:38
#163
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Sweden multib
a team is a puzzle and you need the pieces to fit no matter how good they are - he won't fit in the current rooster at all
2022-12-06 17:13
S1mple, imagine if he leaves navi
2022-12-04 17:08
1 reply
simple reunited with elige and nitro on liquid :D
2022-12-04 17:47
#40
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Netherlands arTvamp
oSee is great and doing good for liquid.
2022-12-04 17:09
1 reply
hes great but hes just not being that good this year
2022-12-05 15:37
kNg
2022-12-04 17:10
just kick all the NA bots out
2022-12-04 17:14
1 reply
flair
2022-12-06 01:27
#46
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Russia YsvLive
deko pog
2022-12-04 17:26
#49
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Scotland Savjy
regali
2022-12-04 17:29
-osee +r1nkle
2022-12-04 17:39
SMOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
2022-12-04 17:45
3 replies
i feel bad for smooya. he deserve a team
2022-12-04 17:48
2 replies
#74
podi | 
Finland Mat0n1
Lmao that guy has never even been a full year in one team so there's a reason why that toxic mf always gets kicked.
2022-12-04 17:58
1 reply
i mean true :/
2022-12-04 18:12
ur dumb
2022-12-04 17:48
2 replies
sorry but look at the stats
2022-12-04 17:50
1 reply
hes had one bad tourney and one ok tourney you people are crazy
2022-12-06 09:33
#72
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United States ryan!nacs
wait is this actually a serious post?
2022-12-04 17:50
8 replies
he is baiting
2022-12-04 18:02
1 reply
#76
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United States ryan!nacs
ok good. based on some of the responses i wasn't sure lol
2022-12-04 18:07
Not bait i think liquid could use a better awper if osee doesnt step up more :/ also i like wonderful and would like him to play for liquid
2022-12-04 18:13
5 replies
#80
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United States ryan!nacs
ok, who in NA is a better awper then...
2022-12-04 18:29
4 replies
no one (thats why wonderful cuz european)
2022-12-05 13:33
3 replies
#110
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United States ryan!nacs
so not only are you saying that they should bring in someone from another culture into a NA team (how did that work with shox), you want to bring in a 17 year old kid who probably barely speaks english to begin with??? there is a reason rosters that have 4 players from 1 region and 1 player from another don't work
2022-12-05 18:17
2 replies
yekindar?
2022-12-06 01:27
so liquid w yekindar doesnt work ? :D and why not? if wonderful speaks english he could be great.
2022-12-06 20:17
liquid will sign deko he is yekindar's friend
2022-12-04 18:14
2 replies
who?
2022-12-05 13:44
1 reply
deko
2022-12-05 14:08
I like oSee but I'm tired of watching him miss easy shots. It constantly costs Liquid rounds. I dont know who they should replace him with though. There arent any other good NA AWP prospects. I don't know what imports they can get either.
2022-12-04 18:34
1 reply
wonderful would be awesome
2022-12-05 15:36
What about regali? He's tearing up t2 in EU and there's not many avaliable t1 awpers rn
2022-12-04 18:39
#86
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Bahrain ding05
w0ndeful, they could get themselves a prodigy like they did with s1mple
2022-12-04 18:41
1 reply
yess
2022-12-05 13:43
Woxic
2022-12-04 18:44
#89
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United States charybids
oSee is not the problem, he shows up for big matches Liquid's problem this season has been EliGE underperforming in big matches
2022-12-04 18:44
1 reply
Elige has been pretty bad this year
2022-12-05 13:43
#96
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Sweden Noxerius
junior or farlig seems like the best awpers in t1 cs so they might be really good replecement.
2022-12-05 13:45
3 replies
lmfao
2022-12-05 14:03
+1
2022-12-06 01:28
mother of all baits.
2022-12-06 11:48
Overrated shit
2022-12-05 13:47
Liquid disband and move to Val ezy money farm for the boys
2022-12-05 19:30
ZywOo
2022-12-05 19:31
#113
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Brazil geloz
-nitr0
2022-12-05 20:26
broky
2022-12-05 20:27
#115
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United States kalimbo
Last time Liquid won something was 2019 :(
2022-12-05 20:30
1 reply
Paris winners in 2023
2022-12-06 14:54
-oSee +acoR problem fixed
2022-12-05 21:53
#125
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Italy alastt27
osee is underperforming only bc 3 insane riflers in the team, that take all the ecos every time
2022-12-05 22:01
mantuu
2022-12-05 22:02
I don't think oSee is the problem and even if he is just give him time to develop + get used to european play
2022-12-05 22:03
Jamppi :)
2022-12-05 22:31
People calling for osee to be kicked don’t understand the game beyond “gun kill people, shoot people good”. Osee is the second most impactful player in liquids games.
2022-12-06 00:24
3 replies
which is why they always lose. meta revolves around big green, so big green player must be most impactful, second best aint good enuf
2022-12-06 00:28
1 reply
The only teams in which the awper is the most impactful player currently are Navi and vitality. The current meta doesn’t revolve around the awp being high impact, it revolves around the awp being low cost. Osee’s impact on the team is within the top 5 for awpers overall. You ever wondered how the rifles on liquid are able to play with as much confidence as they do? A selfless awper is the answer.
2022-12-06 01:29
Burger brain lol
2022-12-06 14:51
#135
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Canada N3ONlol
Smooya, Nifty, mantuu, etc
2022-12-06 00:46
#143
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Poland Roxin
mhL
2022-12-06 01:29
Cerq
2022-12-06 02:00
#153
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Sweden hxm__
MANTUU, MHL, REGALI, fkn smooya would do better but they will keep osee as long as elige has faith in him
2022-12-06 05:26
osee to col
2022-12-06 11:41
Smooooooooya
2022-12-06 11:44
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