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NA Shuffle 4.0
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North America K1nGoldY 
1) Liquid 2) Complexity (-JT +Motm/stanislaw) 3) EG (-Cerq +wiz -Hext+Jonji) 4) Nouns (-cj +stamina) 5) Atk (-fadey +viz) 6) EG Academy (gets black&white dissolved) (ben1337, hext, jeorge, pwnmalone, rush) ) 7) strife (-snakes +marke) 8) Iron blood 9) Vendetta (-Tender +walco)
2022-12-05 17:02
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#1
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Barbados DawgBuck
0/8
2022-12-05 17:03
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#4
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North America K1nGoldY
Did I said something wrong?
2022-12-05 17:05
7 replies
#5
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Barbados DawgBuck
Notice how all of these teams are Shit before And after this shuffle
2022-12-05 17:06
4 replies
LMFAO
2022-12-05 17:14
#21
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Belgium w4lt3r
god damn
2022-12-05 17:21
#52
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Wales dr_gonzo
well, thats just na
2022-12-06 05:34
tsssssssssss Edit: wait this is stolen
2022-12-06 05:57
i dont think adding + jonji would change eg's success
2022-12-05 17:06
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#53
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Wales dr_gonzo
he deserves better, yes
2022-12-06 05:34
0/8
2022-12-05 17:04
3 replies
#38
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North America K1nGoldY
You have a special hate for my posts don't you :)
2022-12-06 04:53
2 replies
all your threads are shitty baits
2022-12-06 05:08
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#42
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North America K1nGoldY
And you follow them, btw you can call them shitty however they are not baits I follow all these teams and I actually believe these changes would work
2022-12-06 05:14
Notice how all of these teams are Shit before And after this shuffle
2022-12-05 17:05
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#7
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Chile esanchez47
Why mens :(
2022-12-05 17:06
#11
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North America K1nGoldY
I think everyone benefits from this, from a point of view of someone who follows NA matches and their recent growth don't know if you really follow NA tourneys or not
2022-12-05 17:07
where c9?
2022-12-05 17:06
#9
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Chile esanchez47
i would like to see some changes in Complexity, but i think it's more of a coaching subject, rather than the players.
2022-12-05 17:07
#10
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United States Topher
2 no 3 highly doubtful and probably not a huge improvement 6 ???
2022-12-05 17:07
5 replies
#15
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North America K1nGoldY
2) yes 3) they give hext, an inferior player chance, I don't see anything bad in jonji, and wiz been doing wiz and co. Have done really good against all teams in ecl, wiz's been on consistently good strats it's a gamble they have to take 6) Eg academy team makes no sense if there are two teams who plays no touneys whole year, black only appears I'm ecl, white shows there face like 2 times a year, they really need to make only once academy team and make them play all other tier 2 touneys + qualifoers)
2022-12-05 17:13
4 replies
#26
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United States Topher
2 I don’t think motm or Stan are an upgrade over jt, especially motm since then they don’t have an igl 3 maybe I just don’t think it will make them noticeably better 6 they need to have white in every eu t2 tournament they can, idk how exactly, but they should be playing cct and pinnacle etc
2022-12-05 17:28
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#32
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North America K1nGoldY
2) Grim for igl :), that's just a brainstorming idea but for what I have witnessed so far I think col don't really need an igl, I mean so many of the round are won because the individuals just know what to do, i think firepower is more of an issue here And for stan duude you've seen blacks last match against mibr? Bro stan was playing sick this guy knew where to be at which time I'm convinced at this point that through a little more polishing stan can actually bring firepower and igling to col 3) gamble gamble gamble it's the only way say yes you know you want it too say yes 6) trust me Or not having one team would be little messy and easy to assigne tourneys also just thing about it after dissolving both white and black this grey lineup can be potentially sicker ben will get a chance to prove his igling, rush will. Serve as the veteran, hext will bring fresh tier 1 experience, pwn knows what he's doing, and finally jeorge will have variety of players to look upto and develop he's been promising so far believe me even EG must be planning to dissolve these two lineups at some point of time
2022-12-06 04:41
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#46
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United States Topher
2) maybe but ive been a fan of jt for like 3 years now 3) if cerq has 0 fans im dead but you might be on to something 6) the idea is for the main team to be like a top 10/15 team, white to be a solid t2 team and black to be an na scouting team, so young up and comers go to black and then move up the teams, the proble is that the main team is not top 15 yet and white is not spending nearly enough time in eu tournaments, if they can get the teams to where they are supposed to be the main team will probably never leave top 10 since they will have 5 solid t2 players and 3-4 up and comers (and 1-2 veterans) at their disposal, its a lofty goal but if they get there i think it will work wonders
2022-12-06 05:23
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#49
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North America K1nGoldY
1) I respect the take even I think he's a really great guy and I would like to see him in a good team if he leaves seeing him up his stas while being I'm col would be a sight to see 2) as for cerq my little brother is his fan too so id feel bad for him however feeling more like he's kinda exhausted and a break or change for him Would be better 3) I actually like the idea I just hope 2023 goes good for whatever EG os cooking, just as long as they are supporting NA cs
2022-12-06 05:31
2) not a chance. if they cut JT might as well go EU since they can still claim NA spots 3) they would go EU for awper 4) maybe but probably not 5) LOL????????????????? 6) stop it 7) snakes is awping now
2022-12-05 17:08
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#51
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North America K1nGoldY
No comments on others but , 5) is the wayyy get this young South African prospect before it's late
2022-12-06 05:32
2022-12-05 17:08
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#18
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North America K1nGoldY
Sheep
2022-12-05 17:20
These are rough bro
2022-12-05 17:10
Who cars about dead scene
2022-12-05 17:16
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#39
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North America K1nGoldY
Everyone who is here everyone
2022-12-06 04:55
#19
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Russia Soawii
why -cerq and +NA awper? could go for mantuu/smooya or others without changing the NA core
2022-12-05 17:20
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#23
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North America K1nGoldY
They've been training wis all this time and he's been consistently good evey team has to start somewhere or other, when will the academy project bear the fruit, makes much more sense then getting one from outside
2022-12-05 17:23
Keep stanislaw out of Complexity PLEASE
2022-12-05 17:21
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#40
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North America K1nGoldY
Cmon man one chance only, I mean G2 kicked nexa to bring hooxi, it can't be worse then that right?
2022-12-06 04:57
actually a good post but I agree with #20
2022-12-05 17:23
New TSM roster: kobruh REAL XotiC D4rtyMontana Cynic
2022-12-05 17:25
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#28
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United States Topher
As much as I want to see tsm with an na roster there is no way they would pick up that team, maybe dark zero or ssg
2022-12-05 17:30
Tupac is alive
2022-12-05 17:29
1) Yeah 2) I'd be happy with Stan, but tbh, I'd just give JT more time or go international. 3) Not bad moves. I'd hope they go for wiz, but I wouldn't be surprised if they went international 4) I'd keep Nouns roster for now. Especially considering cj isn't even the IGL, so idk what that change would accomplish. If anything, I'd say -cj -cxzi, +Beakie +Alvin 5) Atk will never drop their ZA wonderchild, but viz is definitely excellent 6) God I hope pwnalone doesn't go to an academy roster. The dude's like 31. I'd prefer a 1to1 swap for Cerq over that or try out a new NA awp, and hext, jeorge, and rush all on the same team? That's like 2.5 entry fraggers with so much role overlap on CT 7) Isn't snakes awping for strife rn? 8) They aight 9) Would be solid
2022-12-05 18:37
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#36
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North America K1nGoldY
+1 Glad to have another man of NA kulture Also about strife no one is awping rn which I respect, i added marke because the guy will bring sick firepower he'll redeem strife as a solid NA contenders, for nouns like yk yk cj is new I'm afraid he'll stop thei momentum, I wanted stamina because they could use a better igl I'm positive whoever leaves igl duty would galdly hand it over to former strife's igl
2022-12-06 04:52
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I'm 90% sure cynic is Nouns' igl, and I feel like he's been doing pretty well. I'd definitely like to see stamina on a better team. I just don't really know if Nouns is the fit
2022-12-06 05:35
Can you rate my thoughts at #48
2022-12-06 05:52
LUL nothing changed??? Also why remove HexT?
2022-12-05 18:40
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#35
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North America K1nGoldY
Bruh I know he's young and all bit I still think eg rushed a little in getting him to the roster, even their post said the same, they did it for the sake of qualifying for na region, jonji is better firepower all day long and if not, then atleast can potentially have a higher ceiling then hext, no haye against hext but I think he should actually start with academy team. First
2022-12-06 04:45
iron blood just chillin
2022-12-06 04:43
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#34
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North America K1nGoldY
New team they've been doing ok, I added them because I know they have staying power,
2022-12-06 04:43
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Wouldn’t say new when they’ve been together for like a year, but I get yah
2022-12-06 05:31
This actually seems pretty good tbh
2022-12-06 04:51
just add brazilian players fixed
2022-12-06 05:16
Reading the signings makes me sad. There is no like exciting fpl esque talents in NA anymore. In 2018 and 2019 in particular there were a ton. Almost all of them on franchised valorant teams now. Oh well.
2022-12-06 05:19
#45
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Iraq Maspiyuuu
raTIO
2022-12-06 05:20
congrats you made almost all of those teams worse
2022-12-06 05:26
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#62
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North America K1nGoldY
I see Danny thanks, care to explain where I went wrong
2022-12-06 06:01
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current stanislaw is a bad IGL compared to JT and plays a very different style of CS than what's historically worked for Col. MOTM isn't even good enough for ATK Cerq is washed but still arguably better than Wiz (cerq's stats are worse but that's because he's playing good teams not snakes den and detonate) Jonji is inconsistent asf and historically has attitude problems but i could see the argument to put him over hext tbh, prob your best idea EG academy gets rid of the entire reason they made multiple EG teams, and also the team's average age is like 60💀 MarkE doesn't awp idk anything ab iron blood or vendetta
2022-12-06 06:17
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#69
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North America K1nGoldY
For col I think if stani can keep up up his game against mibr last time, right place at the right time, he can bring igling plus firepower on the table Didn't knew about jonji's attitude problem thanks for that, I was just looking to provide an upgrade in firepower, also I expect wiz to play bad, replacing cerq is because I just want to see a little. More of young blood whose fast, let's agree on that cerq look like exhausted uncle these days his last 1 or 2 games were goood but I highly doubt he plans to keep it up Eg academy was more to develop ben as igl (we need igls man), and so that jeorge and hext who have potential can learn from Rush also rush along with the young blood can atleast think about actually fighting for NA rather then just stealing paychecks and planning his retirement,.pwnlone was just because he is a left over trust me I hate it more then you seeing a 31 year old awper but frankly hes not been bad hes just ok and the fact that hes atleast trying makes him better then stewie and rush Strife don't have an awper I again wanted to add some experience and firepower to this roster mehico would work These two are like you know those teams who are like on the touching distance of being a solid tier 2 teams so I wanted to add them In the list
2022-12-06 06:37
I’ll rate all of them 1) 8/8 good take 2) 6/8 adding motm wouldn’t do much as who will igl. They already struggle with calling why make it worse. Like +Stan it’s cool and he has been doing good in EG black 3) 6/8 like -Cerq + wiz, but -HexT +Jonji does nothing especially since HexT has been in baiter roles 4) 8/8 love it 5) 6/8 great fire power move, but they still need an entry 6) 1/8 serves no point and roster is super old. Rather get new talents 7) 3/8 snakes has been awping 8) 5/8 idk iron blood 9) 4/8 Walco mid
2022-12-06 05:28
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#60
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North America K1nGoldY
+1 yooo I actually think we have the same way of thinking, however I give little More emphasis to the firepower aspect, I'll admit you have a better knowledge in who plays what roles and position nice to meet another man of NA kulture :)
2022-12-06 06:00
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I love NA cs! I get firepower is really important, but lots of team play very pug style of cs like vendetta, disconnected and strife. If you want my opinions on the changes would love to give them
2022-12-06 06:02
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#66
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North America K1nGoldY
Do it, always a pleasure to meet other philosopher in dark Souls universe
2022-12-06 06:04
wow you turned bad but improving teams into total garbage impressive even by hltv standards
2022-12-06 05:34
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#61
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North America K1nGoldY
Explain right now from now i mean now or you're a fluke NA fan
2022-12-06 06:01
Jeezs the NA scene looking really bad when you have teams like iron blood and vendetta in the top 10 NA teams.
2022-12-06 05:35
Best NA shuffle right now to make a team win a Major would be: Kscerato FalleN drop dumau fer
2022-12-06 05:50
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#64
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North America K1nGoldY
I'm in your closet to kill you for saying this, but not a bad team
2022-12-06 06:02
#65
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Europe Khanan
The whole nouns org is cringe af. It’s from some weird bitcoin company, very strange
2022-12-06 06:02
The other teams are w/e, but your CoL and EG shuffles are horrible. Stanislaw is just a 1:1 replacement for JT at best, and motm is a meme. Jonji should NOT be anywhere near the main team.
2022-12-06 06:24
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#70
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North America K1nGoldY
Well stanis been performing, against mibr and team one lately, So why not? With a little more polishing he can prove to be good Also my first choice was just -JT +obo (if he comes back), gr1mothy the IGL About EG, wiz is good, if for any reason you think jonji won't be an upgrade in place then let's keep hext, but one things for sure cerq is going out
2022-12-08 21:45
imo jonji wont be a good fit for eg, i would put jeorge instead as he is proven consistent in rio RMR LAN
2022-12-08 21:45
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#74
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North America K1nGoldY
As much as I would want it to happens but still, Too fast bro too fast, jonji showed up in NA rmrs and also at the time when PA qualified for esl pro League, he definitely have more experience then jeorge, let's give jeorge more time to polish his already peek skills to discover a new ceiling, we need to give jonji a chance first
2022-12-08 21:52
the EG +wiz and jonji would pretty cool to see
2022-12-08 21:46
#73
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United States Trotzdem21
I like all of these ideas, only kinda watch NA but still good time zone for me. EG Academy is a good play
2022-12-08 21:51
who?? cares
2022-12-08 22:14
whwre is c9?
2022-12-08 22:17
Fuck no... we have to keep eg black together and see how good they can be
2022-12-08 22:20
Liquid disband - yekindar, naf, nitro to better EU teams rest is irrelevant
2022-12-08 22:24
Liquid: -nitr0, +s1mple complexity: -jt, +niko EG: -cerq, -hext +zywoo, +ax1le
2022-12-08 22:31
Hext has potential i wouldn't remove him
2022-12-09 01:16
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