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i'm thinking about starting learn new language.
what one should I pick mens? Spanish seems to be most reasonable since many countries use it. but I was thinking about French or Italian. French just sounds nice and Italian i just hope to visit Italy again. i was there in 2018 and loved it
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Brainf**k
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i would rather go for Japanese or Korean if any Asian
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Its probably more fun. But if u learn chinese those two will be easy peasy after. They both derive from chinese, hangul is korean in korean. literally means han-chinese speak :P
same in jpn, if u ever went there. A lot of their signs and stuff is using kanji, which u can easily read if u speak chinese, its like a good base for sure. Not required ofc but might get 2 or 3 for the price of 1 if u do it. :P
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yes, there are differences. "chinese" and "mandarin" is the same.
Traditional is still used written in taiwan, but mandarin mostly spoken there. Most chinese regions have a regional accent, example "hakka" of fujian region. "sichuanese" of sichuan. But these people mostly know mandarin as well. so there are hundreds of versions of chinese, and one "collective" version as well.
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I think Chinese is a concept, includes mandarin cantonese sichuanese etc
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I mean most of the Chinese don't know the difference between English words: "Chinese" "Mandarin" etc
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I am trying to say ppl cannot tell the difference between Chinese and Mandarin in English. You are talking about proportion of ppl who can speak of English in China
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can you recommend any good books for beginners to start with? I think mandarin is probably too difficult but I wanted to give a try to a different language (learning french/german/spanish is just too boring since most people who talk these language probably know enough english too)
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i don't know many books for english speakers to learn chinese. I know A LOT of foreigners here learned really basic stuff like asking directions, small talk. Order in restaurant etc on duolingo. I have seen a green book called something like "fundamentals of chinese characters" also, but thats more complex i think and not useful for beginners, it will take a loooong time to learn written by hand. but digital written and also speaking is quite easy, jsut a matter of remembering.
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Lmao? XD
Fallen is learning mandarin from duolinguo, he shares his process on instagram. Dk if it's working but you can try it
Japanese and Korean are totally unrelated to Mandarin and the only way it helps you is that you'll have a vague understanding of a Japanese kanji from your Chinese hanzi, but the meaning might still be different
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i think you are wrong, they are not unrelated.
Try one simple google search of "how are japanese and korean languages related to chinse". You will find in the first result that they derive from chinese, u will find similarities in the vocabulary. these places spoke chinese before, then they became accents, then languages. Very easy for chinese to learn especially japanese. Korean language was made by the emperor as "simplification" of chinse cause the farmers struggled with writing and reading :)
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roughly 60% of korean words are chinese words, and about 50% of japanese words are chinese words :) just a bit diff pronounceiaction. the "kan" in Kanji, mean "han" like chinese people. And "han" in "hangul" is also han as in chinese. They literally mean chinese language.
Not a great idea to spread misinformation only cause it doesnt fit your worldview :P
and no i dont like ccp before bring something like that as an argument
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You sound a lot like you like the CCP and a sino-centric world view, but whatever.
You try and visit Korea and Japan and communicate in mandarin. Try both written and spoken. You won’t get very far. There’s a reason why both Japan and Korea eventually started to use less and less Hanzi - their languages don’t work the same way as Chinese. I think it’d be just as logical to use hanzi in Norwegian as in Korean.
But yes, certain words have word origins in chinese, but that’s really as far as it goes, and it doesn’t really help you that much because they are still both spelled and pronounced differently, unless its a loan word. Japanese, Korean and Chinese are all part of different language families, and I’d wager Swedish/Norwegian is more similar to Finnish than Chinese is to Korean.
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There I sort of agree with you. Chinese is probably the easiest one of those three. It's really quite straightforward grammar wise. Hard parts are pronunciation and remembering tones. I don't really think learning the hanzi is that hard, it's just about brute forcing it. With Japanese and Korean you need to study tons of super weird grammar that are totally unlike any other language. I don't think you'll get more than a surface understanding of the other languages though with Chinese. You can see a Japanese sentence and see the kanji but it might be conjugated by the other characters and all your left with might be gibberish.
But if you're learning a language, learn the one that you want to and the one you might be able to use. If your will is in it, yolo it.
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japanese is harder
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cope
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cant wait to finally order my ice cream in mandarin!
mandarin cool language btw and very useful. i really want to learn it
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French
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is it hard?
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I dont know bro I dont speak French I just like it
not that hard in term of written, but being able to understand spoken french is quite a deal
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bro sure french grammar is rough but to be able to understand french natives is a different world, english grammar is the easier ones in european languages imo
English, learn to speak really good english and u wont have to learn anything else
master the English language first, written and spoken
then go for Spanish/ French/Chinese
Polish
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Not really as the vast majority here speaks English, but surely won't do any harm learning Dutch.
Sign language 👌
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i was on a sign language course from March - May 2021 (uni refunded whole course) and its super easy to learn, you can learn and u can use it litterally in 3-4 days (only lettering), in those 3 months maybe i wasn't fluent but i could easly comunnicate. Now i forgot like 99% but was fun
portuguese
I would say russian , spanish seems good but only mexico and spain are the good countries that use it,in my opinion.
when i was up to choose 3rd language at uni i 1st tried french. its interesting and beautiful, but i couldnt pronounce it at all. than i tried italian and it went good, but overall this language is pretty useless. music is mostly rubbish, tv shows and movies are decent, and yeah, u will face some difficalties to find someone to speak it. id go with spanish or portuguese
finnish or german
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germam is to hard and sadly ugly
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gladly disagree with you on german, it was easier than english for me, but what do you think of finnish
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from its sound it seems to be very weird xD
Danish, most used in the world
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english is pretty useful
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🙄 hmm, that's a very basic statement to make about the english language. of course it's useful, but it's not the only language in the world and it's not inherently superior to other languages. every language has its own unique features and complexities, and they all have value in their own way. it's important to respect and appreciate the diversity of languages and not think of any one language as being better than the others.
and as for taylor swift being a god...well, that's a bit of a stretch. she's a talented musician and entertainer, but she's not a deity. let's not put her on a pedestal and just enjoy her music for what it is. 🎶
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It is superior to other languages. Not in the sense of how grammar works, or anything like that. It’s the most widespread language so it’s naturally the most useful language, and therefore, superior.
German
Most beautiful language in the world
more people learning russian or german would be great. i think they're beautiful and have great literature. some great musics and tv shows too. french is an option too though i don't have many experience with it.
speaking from my language learning experience 3 years ago i really wanted to learn either russian or japanese and ended up learning japanese. oh god believe me when i said it don't learn japanese unless you're REALLY really into their culture(idol or 2d stuff) or want to live there some day.
Try selecting a language on these criteria:
1. What do you intend to do with this language? Do you want to learn it only for recreational use, getting a start in linguistics, for traveling, business/job requirement or moving to a new country? Define your underlying purpose well.
2. Do you want to learn a language from a completely different language family, one which has more things in common with your mother tongue or a language from your family tree? If you are Polish, I guess that some Slavic language share many aspects in common, from vocabulary to semantics, while others might be slightly more difficult but still be able to learn them. If you want to extend your knowledge, I would suggest to pick a language from a different branch.
3. How much work are you willing to dedicate to learning this language? If you do not practice enough, you will forget details as fast as you learned them. If you want to move to a different country and want to study the spoken language of that state, then it will be easier to adapt to the motions of that language since living there will enable you to understand some basics, opportunities to speak to locals are in abundance and many times you will have to translate those things (especially if it is not an English-friendly country).
I hope my reply will help you in making the best choice possible and good luck with language learning. It is a nice hobby which can teach you a lot about patience, discipline and help you improve on areas like social skills.
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srs mens: if u know english then learn chinese, easy to learn almost every other asian language after chinese.
or mayb deutsch
if u want to learn the language to live there tho you need to pick up tagalog (filipino) or indonesian, they're not tooooooo difficult and living in either country is pretty nice
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Japanese and Korean shares same grammar, and their grammar are different from Chinese grammar. Our grammar is easy as long as you know English but the hardest point is you need to memorize our characters and tones
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Noniin and perkele covers 90% of conversation
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the grammar in russian are very hard
You should probably work on your English first and foremost LMAO
master english first instead of shallowly learning a bunch of different languages, I was like you some time ago because I got pretty happy with my english level but still I can't understand some brits and aussies, so I chose to master english instead of starting a new language, and i'd learn spanish which is quite easy for me because of my mother tongue.
american
i'd say portuguese but it would be too obvious
give a try to romanian language, a very underratd one if u ask me.
Brasilian
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Come
I learnt French in school for 4 years but inability to reach proper phonetics kinda killed my enthusiasm. Spanish and italian are nice
Ive been learning finnish for 2 years now, highly recommend if you like suffering =)
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why learn finnish? understandable if u have finnish roots or live close to there, but otherwise - just why?
ps. we have a lot of folks speaking finno-ugric languages (mari, komi, udmurt, etc), it is better to show respect to them (than to some foreign folk) and learn their language
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Always wanted to learn it for some reason, maybe like a challenge for myself or something. Also Finland has quite an interesting culture and philosophy of simple living and enjoying small things which feels close to me
I was surprised when I got to know that there are tver karelians, but sadly no museums or cultural centres to go visit
english spanish chinese russian
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It’s better to speak two languages with native-level fluency than three or four with slightly lower proficiency, but that’s just my opinion.
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whole point of learning a new language is to be able to communicate with others
do you care if someone makes a mistake or a typo?
if you don't whats the point of trying to perfect your language skills?
i think go for 4
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if you want a future proof one just learn javascript
c is old and stupid
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can't argue with that
since i still not finished my german learning (im still at the start), it is prio for me to get at least b1-b2 level of knowledge
but after that its icelandic and lithuanian, both are (russian is also here) the most preserved indo-european languages
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lithuanian is funny
they stole every word out there and attached "as" to the end
is nice tho
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this "as" thing reminds me latin
maybe latin has more "us" than "as", but it feels like kinda the same thing
spanish is so much more useful that french or italian....
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With Italian you can watch godfather without subtitles
English
French. As someone who dislikes learning languages, French was the only language that I had fun time learning. It gets more fun when you try to speak it
English
French
German
Spanish
Italian
Swedish/Norwegian
Russian
Arabic (good luck, cuz there are so many differences wether you speak the moroccan one, or egyptian or iraqi), most standard would be Saudi Arabia's
Turkish
Japanese
Chinese
Korean
Cornish, Greenlandic, Basque
spanish and jerman are prob best options
Since you already know english:
1. Mandarin
2. Spanish
3. Japanese
4. Cantonese
5. Arabic
you should learn english first of all
serbian
bro I only know one language and it's English and even still i can barely speak it
como coño va a sonar bien el francés? es frnacés, osea solo con ver de donde viene da asco :)
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deutsch
spanish is quite ez, you could give it a try
russian
best choice
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Arabic or Jerman
Try hungarian, very useful lang bro trust me.
Polak wegier dwa baratanski and all that.
I have a friend that can speek spanish really well and can kinda comm with italians preaty well. So I'd say spanish as a Base and if you want its not that Hard to upgrade into Italian
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