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ENCE Meme or Major?
Spinx | 
Finland Harri_the_killer 
From meme to major finalists to meme to major semi-finalists and back to meme. My feelings are none. Looking at this team. I from the start of stockholm cheered my heart out for them loving every round that they won cheering for hope even if they lost the round. But now no expectations everytime i see a new match i just see a free match, easy tournament. Now always struggling against Tier 2 teams there are no steamrolls. Individuals lacking sun and dycha chilling in budget org money while valde trying to tell he is 1.05 average atleast. Sad. Currently trying to win against Endpoint They played inferno yesterday that could be a sign that they might not play anubis. ENCE in first half of 2022 SpinX 1.10-1.20 Dycha 1.05-1.15 Hades 1.00-1.15 Maden 1.03 Snappi 0.90-1.00 ENCE now SunPayus 1.10-1.17 Dycha 1.05-1.10 Valde 1.03-1.04 Maden 1.04 Snappi 0.93 The rating mean shit but the thing here is that the awper is the best player of the team. You need to have a rifler that can play well enough to be the best since if you get that you can play on every buy round. Awp is not always showing. Get jimpphat
2022-12-06 22:10
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Valde was obvious mistake. Alongside of not performing, looking at their interviews it looks like Valde has 0 synergy between him and his teammates
2022-12-06 22:13
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+1 about the interviews
2022-12-06 22:17
I definitely agree i think the tryouts were bit rigged since valde and snappi were old teammates. I expect they were like yoyo meeting each other again and he had zero pressure but guy like Nertz was replacing his homie so yeah
2022-12-06 22:18
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Well, from what we know, they did want to get lauNX over valde. But as that fell through with Sprout holding a firm grip over him, they ended up with v4lde.
2022-12-06 22:30
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Yeah they also went for some others such as snax and nertz
2022-12-06 22:35
+1 wish they got lauNX
2022-12-08 22:59
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KENSI | 
Russia pix3w
Just -valde and *maybe* -maden due to his inconsistency
2022-12-06 22:15
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Yeah maden and hades worked but without hades maden gets down
2022-12-06 22:28
maden is fucking sick man... hard role to be consistent
2022-12-06 22:29
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KENSI | 
Russia pix3w
Keyword: maybe
2022-12-06 22:30
nah he plays his role very good as support
2022-12-07 11:18
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#29
KENSI | 
Russia pix3w
Dycha is support
2022-12-07 11:21
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maden still good regardless forgot hes an entry which makes his rating even better
2022-12-07 11:22
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#31
KENSI | 
Russia pix3w
He's an inconsistent entry
2022-12-07 11:22
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Almost every entry is inconsistent because the role is the hardest one to be consistent. Maden has been good on t sides imo but ct sides he does a little too many mistakes, mainly him being too aggressive and dying.
2022-12-07 11:31
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+1 he seems to be caught off-guard too often But I still think he is an important piece of the puzzle
2022-12-08 23:01
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insani | 
North America minte
no hades no win
2022-12-06 22:16
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-valde +hades as a rifler and a second awper might unironically be an upgrade
2022-12-06 22:18
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#8
insani | 
North America minte
anything to get him off the dumpsterfire that is Finest. they are so fkin bad
2022-12-06 22:19
#14
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Poland paputekk
yea hades was very good with ak, maybe it could work
2022-12-06 22:26
I used to like ENCE before they became this random soulless EU mix
2022-12-06 22:17
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ENCE definitely still has soul compared to other EU mix teams like mouz
2022-12-06 22:24
ENCE with spinx and hades wasnt soulless at all. A team built on a low budget playing good and fun cs on LAN But now... I think your statement is accurate.
2022-12-06 22:25
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Valde literally no feelings brings up nothing
2022-12-06 22:27
I can relate to you alot since i started watching cs in 2021 and i know it must be pretty annoying to lose an international team. But i just gripped on to ence since i started watching and fell in love with them. I just loved to chant "SNAPPI, SPINX, PAAVO, HADEZ, MADEZ" It was a blast but now i just cannot get myself together since spinx and hades are gone both my fav players. I cheered for spinx in epl 16 but i just do not like vitality and ex-finest no webcams so i can't even see poor hades
2022-12-06 22:25
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Poland paputekk
someone need to save hades from that shithole what finest is rn, it's sad how much he downgraded
2022-12-06 22:29
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Yeah definitely i would love for tsm to pick up Hades, Nertz, Snax and Jimpphat with a igl but i think they are looking for some new blood.
2022-12-06 22:30
really sad. I liked ENCE with spinx and hades a lot. Turned in a fan of ENCE because of that roster with them two. If spinx was still on the team things could be different...sunpayus is an upgrade on hades even tho i like the polish awper. the problem seems valde only
2022-12-06 22:21
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#11
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Poland Suvkha
they could've just kept hades as rifler and second awper. He was doing decent with rifle, had chemistry with the team and i cant imagine him doing worse than valde
2022-12-06 22:25
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maybe it could work, hades' rifling isnt bad.
2022-12-06 22:29
The problem is that hades was the support and it clearly worked. If the team was with spinx and sun it could be good put hades and maden filled the roster to the max now that the one piece is gone this is a top 15-20 team
2022-12-06 22:27
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Poland paputekk
i loved the old ence, I started following them when Hades joined cuz i really loved watching him play in Wisla, god rest its soul. Now without Spinx who got kicked out of major by his ex team and hades that is wasting his potential in tier3 the team feels sad, im worried that dycha might leave the team too
2022-12-06 22:34
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I really hope TSM comes up with a banger roster. But yeah i also really loved hades. And whatever happened to Wisla Krakow Rest In Peace you made hades. Spinx from c0ntact to ence to vitality 1.16 average 0.90 average It could be fine if he had 1.10 average but this is just super dissapointing i feel like maden and dycha are trapped in this team now. They need to boot valde
2022-12-06 22:38
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Poland paputekk
heck yee i wonder what TSM team will look like
2022-12-08 19:40
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I would love a team with Jimpphat on rifle Hades as the support awper Snax entry or lurker what he prefers tbh Nertz rifle And a igl unless snax is ready for that
2022-12-08 19:54
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Poland paputekk
heck yess and Snax never wanted to be an igl, he's a lurker maybe siuhy for igl, idk
2022-12-08 21:29
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Siuhy not so good imo i don't think he would have a good chemistry with a coach. Look at Snappi/sAw, karrigan/robban. Perfect fits
2022-12-08 22:58
Bump if anyone else is interested to cry
2022-12-07 11:09
Spinx instead of valde would actually be a sick team, imo only problem roster-wise currently is that valde isn't good enough for his star roles, he would probably be good enough to be a support/anchor. Sunpayus is a clear upgrade over hades and maden & Snappi have been good enough, dycha has been a bit inconsistent and underperforming since the roster change but he is still also good enough and can't think of a player to replace him with knowing ENCE's size/budget. I don't follow the lower tier scene that much so don't know who would be a good lurker on T sides and star on CT sides to replace valde with that ENCE could get.
2022-12-07 11:40
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