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-Saffee +SunPayus
Brazil pazarin 
furia actually needs a decent awper, and i think sunpayus is a good choice, i mean, he is very consistent maybe the only problem is the language barrier, but i think in 1 month training he can manage to understand at least 80% of what are they saying I dont think sunpayus can win anything on ence thoughts???
2022-12-07 17:26
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This sounds terrible
2022-12-07 17:28
4 replies
why?
2022-12-07 17:28
+1
2022-12-08 18:43
#123
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Brazil sfxNTC
+1
2022-12-08 19:08
+1
2022-12-08 20:12
FURIA SunPayus, I am feeling it
2022-12-07 17:28
would be good
2022-12-07 17:29
#5
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Brazil Diabo
0/8
2022-12-07 17:29
he won't win anything with furia either
2022-12-07 17:29
4 replies
same thing about ENCE
2022-12-07 19:11
More likely to win with furia than ENCE. Furia really only needs a better IGL or arT to step it up and they're title contending imo
2022-12-07 19:20
#133
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Indonesia nouser
Ence 1 CCT Furia 0 CCT
2022-12-08 20:38
1 reply
#137
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Poland paputekk
+1
2022-12-08 21:08
#7
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England pumk1n1
-saffee +junior
2022-12-07 17:30
3 replies
1000/8
2022-12-07 17:45
1 reply
=125
2022-12-07 18:18
based
2022-12-07 18:25
#8
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United States Trotzdem21
how would a spanish speaker speak brazilian
2022-12-07 17:30
19 replies
bro its 2 latin derivated language, if u have at least 1 brain cell u can understand easily
2022-12-07 17:36
10 replies
then pick zywoo cuz he also speaks a romance language and has at least 1 brain cell
2022-12-07 20:49
3 replies
#107
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Portugal SilousPT
take XELLOW has well since we are talking about romance languages xD
2022-12-07 21:16
2 replies
#126
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Germany FAN_BIG
I only know romantic language, my handsome friend
2022-12-08 20:03
1 reply
hahaha nice
2022-12-08 20:32
#115
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Spain No_namer
As a Spanish who knows a bit of portuguese and Brazilian slang, I can say that understanding brazilian is way harder than you think. Sometimes I just try to learn something more with real brazilian speakers videos on YT and I can´t understand almost anything.
2022-12-07 22:45
3 replies
to be honest, i think it`s depend, i never had that problem to understand, only when they speak too fast, i think its the same case for you. Its 2 languages way too similar, i can associate easily their sentences with portuguese
2022-12-08 11:27
I am Brazilian and live in Barcelona and I can say that although I can understand/read a good amount of Castellano and Català, speaking those languages is another thing. In my work I use English, so I am only slowly learning how to speak the local languages.
2022-12-08 18:46
1 reply
People underestimate how hard speaking can be. Although there are examples that work just fine really fast if the person is motivated. For instance, nqz (Brazilian) had to put a lot of time into learning how to speak Spanish after joining 9z, and now works super well for them.
2022-12-08 18:50
There isn't a language called Brazilian they speak the same Language as Portugal
2022-12-08 20:07
1 reply
for real? lol as a brazilian i thought i spoke brazilian
2022-12-08 20:27
I'm not sure whether you're a baiter or not but Spaniards can understand 70-80% of what brazilians wanna say, Portuguese language and Spanish language are quite similar, from grammar to words.
2022-12-07 17:38
5 replies
too obvious bait
2022-12-07 17:39
3 replies
haha maybe he really didn't know, many Americans have no knowledge for Espanol except Hola, Bien or Adios, cuz US Army friends of mine did so xD
2022-12-07 17:41
2 replies
#32
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United States Trotzdem21
I live in Florida so I know a lot of Hispanics but I never knew this fact yeah :D
2022-12-07 17:44
1 reply
Good!
2022-12-07 17:45
#31
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United States Trotzdem21
I honestly did not know that, thanks for the headsup without being mean about it <3
2022-12-07 17:43
#81
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Sweden skorpan
"brazilian" :D
2022-12-07 18:59
As other people said, Spanish and Portuguese are pretty closely related. The closest analogy we have in English is Scots, which is a language still spoken in parts of rural Scotland, but it's still closer to English than Spanish/Portuguese. Spanish and Portuguese split ~1200 AD while English and Scots split ~1400 AD. Already somewhat mutually intelligible with effort, but it would take effort to understand it youtu.be/cENbkHS3mnY
2022-12-07 19:35
+stadodo
2022-12-07 17:31
Completly random change... why they even remoyly want to chage a good awper for a random overrated spanish player... ENCE went full blind with him only because he had 1 good run with Movistar Riders and that's all
2022-12-07 17:32
7 replies
>Saffee >Good AWPer pick one
2022-12-07 17:35
he can not be worse than safee
2022-12-07 17:35
how tf is SAFFEE better than sunpayus
2022-12-07 17:37
3 replies
#75
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North America 007DBR9
flair ence pre sunpayus >>>>>>> ence post sunpayus
2022-12-07 18:48
2 replies
ence pre sunpyaus had spinx
2022-12-07 19:32
they had spinx are u dumb? Valde is underperforming :D also, Hades 1.01 rating(when kicked) and Sunpayus 1.15 rating rn
2022-12-07 20:12
#45
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Portugal OwnedBro
Flag
2022-12-07 17:56
Poor SunPayus, where they just don't want to shove it
2022-12-07 17:33
not enough. furia needs to dive into CIS region and finds out a new m0NESY.
2022-12-07 17:34
#13
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Estonia EquitaS
-saffee +HEN1/+FalleN the only choice. Spanish player in BR team, srsly?
2022-12-07 17:35
6 replies
junior played in furia
2022-12-07 17:36
1 reply
#22
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Estonia EquitaS
0.92 Rating. Da king.
2022-12-07 17:37
#90
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Switzerland Imodeode
I think FalleN is the move if he's still motivated to play. Saffee always strikes me as being a bit lost in this system, especially since he oftentimes has to play more passively than he was used to. FalleN should in theory perform in his own system, and he might even be a better IGL still than arT. Two birds one stone.
2022-12-07 19:38
3 replies
#109
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Estonia EquitaS
+1 A FalleN KSCERATO yuurih drop & dumau(mb smn else) lineup would be best brazil dream-team.
2022-12-07 22:14
1 reply
#110
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Switzerland Imodeode
Tbf you could even just keep arT as a player, he's not bad at all. But if you want more firepower, I'd probably go with felps or chelo, though dumau could also be a good shout as you said.
2022-12-07 22:15
+1
2022-12-07 22:26
#17
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Bosnia and Herzegovina hyrox1
If this is not a bait, then big LOL. There is no way to learn Portuguese in a month. Also there is almost zero chance that they replace saffee after good Major run. Maybe in 6 months or smth like that. For me ideal replacement for saffee would be nqz from 9z team.
2022-12-07 17:36
8 replies
language barrier isnt a thing between portuguese and spanish. i can understand it even though i haven't focused on studying. the grammar, sentence structure, verbs and tenses are very similar. also spaniards usually say they understand a brazilian who's speaking portuguese quite easy. but personally, i don't know how I'd feel about this move. I think nqz would be the best move either way
2022-12-07 17:47
7 replies
#37
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Bosnia and Herzegovina hyrox1
Maybe it is easy for Brazilians to learn Spanish, but in other ways for Spanish people to learn Portuguese, I don't think that's easy. And SunPayus isn't s1mple so you sacrifice the language barrier for 1 player, I think there is enough talent in the Brazilian scene to replace saffee if it's even needed to do that.
2022-12-07 17:49
6 replies
try and 00 nation? portuguese and spanish are basically the same shit.
2022-12-07 17:55
4 replies
Try is from Falklands colony so I can imagine he used to play in Brazilian servers and was more used to see people talking in portuguese, also he already played with brazilians in 9z and had an analyst and coach that were brazilians.
2022-12-07 20:11
3 replies
source of him being from Falklands?
2022-12-07 20:14
2 replies
He is from falklands colony a.k.a Argentina.
2022-12-07 20:14
1 reply
name
2022-12-07 21:12
Portuguese, spanish and italian are similar so you can, moreless, understand better than other languages from other mothers, but even with that, there are a lot of words, callouts and shit that's gonna be completely opposite, so you're right is not that ez when you are under pressure and need to give info in less than a second.
2022-12-08 19:07
Just Bring HEN1 back
2022-12-07 17:37
1 reply
+1 miss him already
2022-12-07 17:55
not like saffee is bad, but i feel like half of his rio success was duo to hometourney
2022-12-07 17:37
10 replies
Hey, maybe that's what he needed to finally find his footing, who knows... Unlikely, but one can only hope hahaha I still dream of a FURIA with saffee being as insane as he was in PaiN
2022-12-07 17:53
9 replies
He was great at pain cause he played tier 2 american teams and had the entire team playing on his favor as the star player.
2022-12-07 17:56
8 replies
I can agree that's the case with Maluk3, for example, or even junior or oSee. But when PaiN had the opportunity to play international teams he didn't usually fade out in the server. I really expected more of him =/ I think the problem is that in all these cases the team played around the awper, putting him in star positions, and that's just not how FURIA does things.
2022-12-07 18:01
7 replies
kscerato is the star, its clear now, no other brazilian is even close to his level, yuurih is the closest but still far away. they should give him the awp role and see what happens.
2022-12-07 18:05
6 replies
He is a good second AWPer, but he is so stupidly insane as a rifler that i feel this change would be a waste of that talent hahaha
2022-12-07 18:06
5 replies
what makes kscerato so good is not his aim, he is not like chelo or niko, he is more like cold, he really understand the game and position himself in the smartest way possible, he is great at decision making.
2022-12-07 18:09
4 replies
Hmm, fair point. But if they did that, who do you see as his replacement as a star rifler? As i said in another comment, they need 3 strong, consistent fraggers, otherwise if anyone is not at their best there's no game.
2022-12-07 18:14
3 replies
chelo, lucaozy, felps... there plenty of great riflers in brazil.
2022-12-07 18:16
2 replies
Yeah, I know, I asked if you had anyone specific in mind, that would fit well in their system, their personalities, etc. I don't think chelo would work, and Lucaozy would be SICK, but FURIA is just never going to pay his transfer fee hahaha but Felps could be interesting. As a positive side effect, it would force arT to be more passive and focus on the team, which I think would be a very good change. I also see dumau as a possibility, because I just don't think this 00 thing is going to work, and then FURIA is the only project as big as that for him to move (unless he goes international, he speaks very good english as well). I like him a lot, I seriously think he has the potential to be better than cold in his prime.
2022-12-07 18:26
1 reply
I think these 3 (felps, lucaozy and chloe) fit the bill, dumau am still skeptical on his performance since felps left godsent. felps maybe to much agressive, they don't need another guy pushing every round. i think lucaozy and chelo would be the best options considering they're both great b side players.
2022-12-07 18:44
spanish understand brazilian portuguese?
2022-12-07 17:40
4 replies
#28
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Portugal kurpyyy
i think yes, brazilian and portuguese isn't so different at all
2022-12-07 17:40
3 replies
kkkkkkkkkk
2022-12-07 18:20
"brazilian and portuguese" stop hating your cousins, dude
2022-12-07 19:31
1 reply
#94
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Portugal kurpyyy
i know man, i'm just talking like this to everyone understand
2022-12-07 20:00
Language wouldn't be a huge matter, but just I don't think Brazilian teams would wanna get EU players, they prefer to make 5-Brazilian roster, doesn't they?
2022-12-07 17:39
5 replies
i dont like this idea of 5 brazillian roster, but they do idk why
2022-12-07 17:44
4 replies
why
2022-12-07 17:52
2 replies
idk it looks like it never gonna win something, it doesnt get you confident of a t1 team that gonna win a lot of tournaments, like navi, faze idk
2022-12-07 17:56
1 reply
I agree, I think a roster with everyone, including the coach, being from the same country is a problem because there's no one to 'shake things up' a little, and that creates a group of high highs and low lows. Just see the difference in Liquid before and after Yekindar. And he said that in interviews, that he feels he brings a different energy and style of thinking that are good for the team.
2022-12-07 18:18
cause of language.
2022-12-07 17:56
#27
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Portugal kurpyyy
stadodo > saffe and sunpayus
2022-12-07 17:39
#34
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Brazil talesmarqs
sunpayus need a team who sets him up so he can perform, that will never happens under arT's igling
2022-12-07 17:45
I agree that sadly, saffee didn't bring what everyone expected it would for FURIA, and that without a third strong fragger they won't be able to compete in tier1. But a player from a different culture, language and playstyle is not the solution. I think a lot about nqz, but I have a strong fear that the immense amount of pressure could get in his head like after try went from 9z to 00nation. Anyway, the true change needed is FURIA hiring a general manager to actually estabilish a long-term strategy that goes beyond the immediate desires of the roster, and force arT and guerri to have accountability in their role in fulfilling that strategy (or being replaced by someone who does). But that is not happening anyway, because BR orgs are mostly founded, idealized and operated as hype brands, instead of professional competitive sports organizations.
2022-12-07 17:54
5 replies
great response i dont think changing the awper will really work (unless maybe they get HEN1 again). furia doesnt really know how to integrate an awper into their system. they really need way more fundamental changes to how they play as a team than just swapping awpers.
2022-12-07 18:00
the last paragraph is the most sad but is the reality of the BR scenery
2022-12-07 18:02
3 replies
Yeah, it's sad because I think they could be so much bigger that today, and because even with the flaws they are still my favorite team hahaah
2022-12-07 18:18
2 replies
its sad to be that nationalist but, for who are u rooting for instead of brazil? the rich euro guys? lol
2022-12-07 18:26
1 reply
No, I meant that it's sad because as a fan I know that they could achieve a lot more with changes, and I wanted to see that happening hahaha but no other team could bring the emotions of a BR team in an international championship
2022-12-07 18:30
#49
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Israel michnass
Is Spanish and Portuguese that similar?
2022-12-07 18:02
2 replies
yes, here's an example: menino = niño (boy) u just remove the "me" and change a little the tonacity
2022-12-07 18:05
There are some notable differences, but i think they probably wouldn't be too relevant in the context of in-game communication
2022-12-07 18:08
SunPayus is really good therefore I want him in ENCE
2022-12-07 18:03
#67
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Ukraine broken_arm
-saffee +kennys
2022-12-07 18:32
8 replies
nooo pls i dont want another washed in the team
2022-12-07 18:40
7 replies
#71
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Ukraine broken_arm
-kscerato + cptkurtka023
2022-12-07 18:42
6 replies
this is what im talking about
2022-12-07 18:42
5 replies
#76
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Ukraine broken_arm
2022-12-07 18:49
4 replies
is that you?
2022-12-07 18:57
3 replies
#79
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Ukraine broken_arm
no its you
2022-12-07 18:58
2 replies
damn boy, u look hot 🔥🔥, wanna hang out?
2022-12-07 18:59
1 reply
#82
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Ukraine broken_arm
yes bro add me in insta :zrgwpn
2022-12-07 19:00
CARALHO
2022-12-07 18:33
-safee + fallen and kick drop make art hard entry Fallen Art Kscerato Yuurih Fer
2022-12-07 18:43
3 replies
a player ( fer ) that considers stop playing during an event is useless bc he needs to be hard carried by his teammates. they should keep drop. fallen could boost them but he seeems tired ( and considers only to play one more year ) . winning trophies might not happen.
2022-12-07 19:57
2 replies
Fer is decent same level as drop or better but the main problem is safew
2022-12-08 16:43
1 reply
fer is too old and not greedy enough.
2022-12-08 20:01
i dont think a castilian spanish speaker will learn brazilian portuguese in a month
2022-12-07 18:45
#77
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Brazil AWFenrir
nqz > Sunpayus Nqz is more aggressive, which is what Furia needs.
2022-12-07 18:53
art's style is not good for a top5 team, thats their biggest issue. saffee needs more time, the only better option would be hen1, idk if its possible
2022-12-07 19:03
portuguese sounds like: polish+italian spanish sounds like: ARIBA ARIBA how tf is it alike?
2022-12-07 19:36
6 replies
2022-12-07 19:56
It's really close bro, but they talk too fast, but it's really easy to understand and learn, probably english the only easier language for us since even americans can understand it.
2022-12-07 20:16
#132
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Brazil hugoooo
WTF If there is one language in the world that sounds ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE BR Portuguese, it's Polish.
2022-12-08 20:36
3 replies
youtube.com/watch?v=Pik2R46xobA "absolutely nothing like". dumb enough to dont know your own language lmao
2022-12-08 20:48
2 replies
#135
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Brazil hugoooo
And you are extremely dumb to not realize the entire video is about Portuguese from Portugal, that in fact sounds like Russian. Brazilian Portuguese don't have any of those accents that make it sound like Russian or Polish.
2022-12-08 20:54
1 reply
and how would I knew it? aint my fault if ur ppl downgraded portuguese language.
2022-12-08 20:58
saffee is a decent awper too. no need to change.
2022-12-07 19:44
#98
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Russia HikZ
<<<<nqz
2022-12-07 20:14
FURIA needs HEN1 or history.
2022-12-07 20:15
1 reply
history is pug player bro
2022-12-07 22:37
#102
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Brazil MrLucas
From all the possible changes they could make, this is probably the one with the highest chances of success, with that said, I don't think they should make any changes now, they played great at the major (showed that they are already capable of beating any team) and -D2 +Anubis should make them even stronger, so wouldn't make any sense to change players now
2022-12-07 20:37
TRY. save him from coldzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzera
2022-12-07 20:45
I think there are better options but it's not a crazy idea
2022-12-07 21:01
Language is not barrier. Spanish language is same as portugese and brazilians
2022-12-07 21:17
3 replies
#112
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Germany _car
No
2022-12-07 22:32
1 reply
yes
2022-12-08 18:25
Hola cosita
2022-12-07 22:37
#125
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Europe dg6
bro languages
2022-12-08 20:01
SAnPayus is a fluke bruh
2022-12-08 20:10
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