k23
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navi not
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so its ence?
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that's right
Delusional
heroic 0 wins
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N0F fan talking xaxaxax
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XANTARES owns him, way better aim
if they reach finals of next tournament then maybe they can overtake navi
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ignore this clown. Na'Vi is clear 2nd best team of 2022 atm. Playoffs at 8/8 big events, 3 grand finals (Blast win, Major and Cologne runner-up). Heroic made playoffs at 6/7 big events, 2 grand finals (Blast win, Major runner-up).
He's a low IQ NaVi hater
heroic Kato semis , Navi semis
Heroic EPL 15 9-12 , Navi EPL 15 5-8 ( beat heroic in groups )
Heroic antwerp 5-8 , Navi 2nd ( beat heroic in quarters )
Heroic DNP blast spring , Navi 1st
Heroic DEAD LAST in groups cologne , Navi 2nd
Heroic EPL 16 9-12 , Navi 5-8 ( beat heroic in R012)
Heroic 2nd RIO , Navi 5-8 RIO
Heroic 1st Blast , Navi 5-6
now tell me if they need a final finish or not
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this guy is a known navi hater
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even if you are a hater its kinda dumb saying that heroic can take #2 from navi for this year
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majority of hltv posters are always recency biased. not a new thing :)
Heroic, after Faze and Outsiders
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How tf lulvi and heroic over outs?
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More consistent i feel like, outsiders won a major and all but didnt do almost anything else (overall tourney placing) while navi has 2nd antwerp, 2nd cologne, 1st blast, better overall placing + some other things. Heroic are 2nd major 1st blast + overall better placing, could swap heroic with ousiders yeah. For navi it's basically what #43 said except compare to outsiders
because they were better this year overall
what have outsiders done this year other than a major
Outsiders
NaVi
Alternate Attax
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Lol outsiders over navi?
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Why?
Navi was better than Outsiders in whole 2022.
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In the first season of the year yes, in the second no. As i wrote above Navi in my humble opinion degraded this year. They are still strong but not so great, have inner problems, elec by far has not his own style as IGL, S1mple does not behave like a worthy leader, was booed in Brazil, and these rages to sdy. Idk man.
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You compare Navi 2021 vs Navi 2022, which is pretty stupid for ranking in 2022.
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First half
FaZe
Na’Vi
??
Second half
Heroic
Outsiders
Mouz
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we are talking about the entire year
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No i’m not
G2
Maybe Eyeballers
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+1 ofc
Navi
FaZe
NaVi
Last spot shared with: C9 and ENCE
ence being the team that became a title contender from a scratch. And C9 just being good winning dallas against ence and yea that is just right
Honestly it might be whoever wins Blast Worlds (as long as it's not OG, G2, Navi, and Faze).
Heroic, Outsiders, Liquid, and Vita are all pretty close.
Shame C9 didnt tryhard BLAST enough to make it here, cause if they did I think they'd be in contention.
and Ence may be able to take it if the 4 aforementioned teams bomb out (I doubt they do though)
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Wdym didnt tryhard? They were able to earn blast points by playing only esl events and they flopped most of them. If they made finals at epl 16 AND Rio major, they'd have enough points to qualify.
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Noone in eu showdown was directly invited, only 00nation and Mibr got direct invites in America. Cis qualifiers were cancelled, mouz and fnatic failed to qualify for fall showdown as they managed to lose to eternal fire and sangal. With CIS it's interesting, blast wanted to punish russian teams, but in reality ukrainian, kazakh and other teams unable to qualify
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yes, what you say is correct.
However that's the issue.
C9 wasnt given an opportunity to compete at any BLAST events, aka the events that give the most points. They had no qualifiers and no opportunity to be invited.
And do you really think teams like MOUZ and Fnatic are going to tryhard some tier 2 qualifier?
BLAST needs to expand. a 16 team EU showdown would make more sense, since there are plenty of teams that deserve invites to the showdown.
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And do you really think teams like MOUZ and Fnatic are going to tryhard some tier 2 qualifier?
Why not? Mouz clinched Dallas spot playing open qualifier first and then won in closed qualifier.
Yes, I agree with you, I would expand the showdown in the EU and personally make partner teams that do not qualify for the spring/fall finals go through other qualifications to play at showdown. But 16 teams qualifier and only 1 spot? Idk doesnt sound right to me, at least make it two, but then blast needs to rewamp their system i guess
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Navi
Heroic
Outsiders
Outsiders fans forget they did literally nothing all year then won a major, sure that means something but other than that they're shit
Ji two
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