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most boring top 20 ever?
s1mple | 
United States KongKing3751 
There's like no excitement this year for the top 20. The three top performers this year are all within 0.01 rating of each other, and have had all won ONE big event. C9 had IEM dallas. Zywoo had EPL. S1mple had Blast Spring Final. IEM Dallas would be perhaps counted a bit lower than EPL and Blast, but he also has 0.01 higher rating. The top 3 are basically gonna be like flipping a coin a few times. If any of their teams manage to win Blast World Final, then they will be #1. #1-3: s1mple, Zywoo, sh1ro, any order basically #4: most likely BlameF, considering his actual stats throughout the year #5: Ax1le, better big events rating than NiKo, and one event win #6: NiKo #7: stavn, cracked performances, won blast #8-10: broky, ropz, Twistzz, in that order (I'm a broky hater, but he popped off sometimes) #11:probably KSCERATO, had good placements in major and other events #12:m0nesy, no event wins, good rating, but had pretty inconsistent performances #13: rain, great event wins, decent rating #14: elec, had to switch to IGLing which dropped his impact #15: Hobbit, always love my boy #16: YEKINDAR, cracked entry fragger #17: b1t, really fell off after his first year, maybe got too overconfident after 2021 #18: Spinx is based #19: frozen, cracked, only good player on MOUZ, but barely got anywhere #20: no idea, maybe Syrson
2022-12-09 19:48
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#1
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Russia Soawii
s1mple is clear #1
2022-12-09 19:49
4 replies
he's not
2022-12-09 20:02
3 replies
He is and if you would understand how the rankings work you'd know that. ZywOo missed all elite event playoffs (Cologne, Katowice, both majors), didn't get any EVP at both majors while s1mple was a MVP candidate at Antwerp with b1t and also got an EVP at Rio. He has better impact, better stats against the best teams in the world, better KPR. He has better LAN stats, better elite event stats, better big event stats. He has way more playoff maps, made the Antwerp major final, Cologne final, Katowice semi-final, Rio quarter-final. As Striker hinted on the hltv confirmed podcast: ZywOo would have to win the Rio major MVP to challenge s1mple this year which obviously didn't happen.
2022-12-09 20:22
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#44
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France weedwalker
he doesn't know you exist buddy, why you defend him in every thread like anyone cares
2022-12-09 21:17
1 reply
'Defend' lmfao If you say so
2022-12-09 21:21
stopped reading at #4: most likely BlameF
2022-12-09 19:49
12 replies
dude had a 1.30 impact rating for 2022 that shit is insane
2022-12-09 19:52
11 replies
+1 Blame haters coping hard
2022-12-09 19:53
It is indeed insane but he won nothing, he aint getting #4 over Ax1Le
2022-12-09 19:53
9 replies
thats fair tbh, I was unsure between BlameF and Ax1le, but I did want to consider that blameF basically never dropped off, while Ax1le did have some spotty performances blame also had jack shit in terms of team support, while Ax1le at the very least had sh1ro
2022-12-09 19:55
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I expect both broky and stavn to be in front of blameF, its a shame because he cooked all year
2022-12-09 19:56
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the entire astralis team was just the "Let him cook" meme but unironically
2022-12-09 19:57
1 reply
Does he know ?
2022-12-09 19:58
tbf blamef not winning is not really fully his fault
2022-12-09 20:00
4 replies
Absolutely not but it adds up in the ranking system
2022-12-09 20:01
3 replies
true which is sadge
2022-12-09 20:02
2 replies
true, bro wasted shit ton of time in Complexity and now same thing with Astralis, at least dev1ce will help him carry but they need to replace MistR or Xyp9x fast, preferably both
2022-12-09 20:05
1 reply
MistR first tho
2022-12-09 21:13
#3
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France weedwalker
blamef will 100% not be 4th lmao
2022-12-09 19:49
#4
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Pakistan LoOuU2
where sloth
2022-12-09 19:49
#5
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Europe Khanan
There is no excitement yes, because it doesn’t matter. Team achievements are important not this
2022-12-09 19:50
#4: most likely BlameF, considering his actual stats throughout the year
2022-12-09 19:51
1 reply
2022-12-09 19:52
Clearly not gonna be boring for you since you predicted most of these wrong
2022-12-09 19:55
#4 blamef 0/8
2022-12-09 19:56
1 reply
explain, debating the placements is fun imo
2022-12-09 19:58
ropz and twistzz > broky
2022-12-09 19:59
4 replies
why do you think that? they were all pretty consistent in terms of the performances imo
2022-12-09 20:07
How many MVPs does twistzz have and how many does broky have can u remind me ?
2022-12-09 20:14
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Twistzz was robbed in Cologne by s0mple fangirls
2022-12-09 21:05
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People say twistzz was robbed in cologne, but in reality it was rain that was robbed lmao, he's just overshadowed by the 1 twistzz play in the final hltv.org/stats/players/8183/rain?event=6.. hltv.org/stats/players/10394/twistzz?eve.. Rain had the same stats in the final + a slightly better semi, if someone on faze was robbed, it's rain
2022-12-09 21:17
5/8 ax1le > blameF YEKINDAR most likely top 10 Spinx >>> b1t/Hobbit #20 probably cadian swap rain/ropz
2022-12-09 20:01
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I feel like most of these are fair arguments. I literally somehow missed YEKINDAR's 1.31 impact rating, even though I wrote it down, so thats my bad #20 was kind of just "whatever" Why do you want to swap rain and ropz?
2022-12-09 20:03
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major MVP is the main reason also that reminded me of Jame that should clearly be on the list I think I didn't look at stats btw, these are just based on my overall feeling this year))
2022-12-09 20:05
What is a fun top20 in your opinion? You want astralis to comeback and win everything without any competetion?
2022-12-09 20:02
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honestly I liked the Astralis gameplay better than the current FaZe roster This FaZe team feels like it operates on individual power rather than teamplay, and I found the Astralis teamplay really fascinating to watch. Like I know karrigan is good at making his stars work together, but that Astralis was just something else
2022-12-09 20:05
Dallas: crowd LAN, some partner teams, good format BLAST: crowd LAN, mostly partner teams, good format EPL: 5 week studio event with no crowd intended to take up as much calendar time as possible, bad format i think we know which one is the biggest achievement
2022-12-09 20:07
dev1ce #1 rest irrelevant
2022-12-09 20:07
Jame top 10-15
2022-12-09 20:57
1 reply
+1, him not getting listed is -1/8 territory
2022-12-09 21:21
blameF at 4 really? He is barely top 10.
2022-12-09 20:57
bro forgot about outsiders completely
2022-12-09 20:59
Spinx above Frozen LMaO 🤣🤣😅 wack ass trash ass buster ass scrub ass bitch ass nerd 💀💀💯
2022-12-09 21:01
yekindar top 10 clear
2022-12-09 21:06
1) s1mple is clear top 1 2) sh1ro is not even close to s1mple 3) zywoo has 2 play offs played
2022-12-09 21:07
6 replies
Yes #33
2022-12-09 21:09
#49
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Italy Karimk03
Zywoo will get top 2 if he perform at blast world final cuz sh1ro doesn't play blast events imo.
2022-12-09 21:21
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ZywOo is already locked in at #2
2022-12-09 21:25
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#55
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Italy Karimk03
What if he underperform at blast, Do u think he still get top 2?
2022-12-09 21:28
2 replies
Yes. Has a way better MVP, arguably the best MVP this year, has better impact, better stats against the best teams in the world (against the top 5 teams), better KPR, better ADR, way better LAN stats, way way better big event stats etc.
2022-12-09 21:35
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#59
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Italy Karimk03
Fair enough.
2022-12-09 21:38
#42
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Germany n4v0x
You literally said you cant predict top3 and called it boring. Are you alright in the head?
2022-12-09 21:11
putting niko at #6 is so fucking cringe i cant dude 💀💀 how is he not just like top 15 or something. g2 was soooo underwhelming this year edit: actually. i didn't even realize you we're an npc who just looks at stats. sounds like you don't realize that even tho ex. (example) s1mple could be 35-17 at 15-14 (round 30), he can still make a mistake that cost them a overtime loss. and if i need to repeat myself, s1mple is ALL at fault for losing. that's how it works, even tho s1mple wins them every round up until the last one. (example)
2022-12-09 21:26
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#51
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Italy Karimk03
hltv.org/stats/players/3741/niko?startDa.. Definitely in top 10 this year, argubly even top 5-7
2022-12-09 21:23
BlameF 4th omegalul I'm pretty sure you looked at the ratings on HLTV. He got a good score but not against strong teams in big events, did he ?
2022-12-09 21:18
s1mple ZywOo sh1ro won't be any different Ax1Le Niko KSCERATO (cuz major) blameF broky and maybe m0NESY and stavn/yuurih that's my top 10
2022-12-09 21:24
They should put dev1ce at #1 for shits and giggles
2022-12-09 21:26
1 s1mple 2 zywoo 3 sh1ro trust me
2022-12-09 21:32
#57
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Turkey Joper
Where is NAF?
2022-12-09 21:34
No jame?
2022-12-09 21:43
#61
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Hungary szia
dont worry, ill make it interesting next year as the breakout player of 2023
2022-12-09 21:47
#62
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Finland EffP
I wonder if allus gona make it
2022-12-09 21:48
S1mple #1 obvious Missing Jame, YEKINDAR should be higher Idk if Hobbit will still make it, he fell off this year Broky probably higher due to his trend of performing best in playoff matches BlameF lower due to his trend of not playing playoff matches
2022-12-09 21:56
Sorry for ZywOo but this year s1mple Will be no. 1 sadly. Sh1ro was a monster too
2022-12-10 23:53
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