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England Arthur_Dent 
I don't accept the currently fashionable assertion that any view is automatically as worthy of respect as any equal and opposite view. My view is that the moon is made of rock. If someone says to me 'Well, you haven't been there, have you? You haven't seen it for yourself, so my view that it is made of Norwegian Beaver Cheese is equally valid' - then I can't even be bothered to argue. There is such a thing as the burden of proof, and in the case of god, as in the case of the composition of the moon, this has shifted radically. God used to be the best explanation we'd got, and we've now got vastly better ones. God is no longer an explanation of anything, but has instead become something that would itself need an insurmountable amount of explaining. So I don't think that being convinced that there is no god is as irrational or arrogant a point of view as belief that there is. I don't think the matter calls for even-handedness at all
2022-12-28 14:06
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douglas adams was an incel
2022-12-28 14:07
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England Arthur_Dent
He was employed as a bodyguard by a Qatari family, who had made their fortune in oil also +195cm
2022-12-28 14:11
I disagree!
2023-01-10 13:07
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you can do that
2023-01-29 17:52
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Brazil ShalkanG
I understand your point, and I agree with the Moon part, but when it comes to a subject where the proofs that it exists are exactly equal to the proof that it doesn't exist (0), then the two probabilities have the same value, even that you don't agree.
2022-12-28 14:16
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France terbutaline
Spirituality is personal development whose goal is just to be happy because it's not easy. It's not enough to find a wife, have kids, have a job. Just see the number of depression, the number of divorces, the number of unloved children (and those who loved children are called pedo) All the evolutions of society have been made to achieve this ideal of life, yet man is unhappy in this life. To find meaning in his existence which has more, he uses, consciously or not, different strategies. He can confine himself to a passion, sport, video games, music. It can join a community, religious, political, ideological. He can just follow the masses without asking questions, by being interested in what is trendy and by frequenting social networks, which are also trendy. Everyone finds their own escape from the real world while waiting for society to change to be more in tune with the human spirit. Perhaps the human is simply not made for peace which he finds boring but that a world in perpetual conflict and or survival in an important place is more coherent with this way of being.
2022-12-28 14:31
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England Arthur_Dent
Now, the invention of the scientific method and science is, I'm sure we'll all agree, the most powerful intellectual idea, the most powerful framework for thinking and investigating and understanding and challenging the world around us that there is, and that it rests on the premise that any idea is there to be attacked and if it withstands the attack then it lives to fight another day and if it doesn't withstand the attack then down it goes. Religion doesn't seem to work like that; it has certain ideas at the heart of it which we call sacred or holy or whatever. That's an idea we're so familiar with, whether we subscribe to it or not, that it's kind of odd to think what it actually means, because really what it means is 'Here is an idea or a notion that you're not allowed to say anything bad about; you're just not. Why not? - because you're not!
2022-12-28 14:32
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Abstract things cannot necessarily be shown explicitly, merely expressed, and I think more people would vouch for the existence of love over the opposite for example. Human reason, being imperfect, is always vulnerable to manipulation and corruption. Mass psychosis is a thing just as much as personal. I mean, some studies suggest animal cruelty is a sign of psychopathy, and I'd say the systematic manufacture of life and beings made to be eaten is cruel to some degree, and partaking and supporting this business could be cruel too, but obviously all meat-eaters in society aren't psychopaths.
2023-02-09 13:01
reading your comment made me retroactively lose my B.S. in philosophy and develop brain cancer
2023-02-09 13:02
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Brazil ShalkanG
shove what's left up your ass, trash
2023-02-09 15:35
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#54
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Brazil ShalkanG
note: philosophy is a shitty field of study...
2023-02-09 15:37
that was not very nice
2023-02-14 19:36
Moon is made of cheese, because it's yellow, smells like socks, and has holes
2022-12-28 14:17
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England Arthur_Dent
nt the moon is white
2022-12-28 14:19
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2023-01-29 18:10
nt Wallace
2023-01-10 10:50
What a shocker, 90% of the ppl have no idea what they are talking about and couldn’t defend their take using logic or any solid points, all online discussions are basically “I feel like” and as soon as they can’t respond they start attacking you personally
2022-12-28 14:33
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North America Shehp
I get what you're saying, but where is the line drawn in the dirt that determines if a view is not automatically to be respected?
2022-12-28 14:34
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none of the views should *automatically* be respected, thats the whole point if you cant provide any arguments for your views you just gtfo from the conversation, why should anyone respect you
2022-12-28 15:13
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
You're absolutely right. Nowadays we have grown towards an overrespecting society that tries to keep everyone inside a little bubble, where your points are always respectable unless it is against the common narrative
2022-12-28 15:11
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thx
2023-01-10 09:38
For example Islam should not be viewed as equal to freedom.
2022-12-28 15:13
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Canada Bak2BED
what??
2023-01-29 18:07
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Islam is anti-freedom.
2023-01-31 05:14
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Canada Bak2BED
how?
2023-01-31 23:27
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not secular, no lgbt, no jews, no same laws for women
2023-02-02 16:50
Moon's made of cheese you pleb.
2023-01-10 09:46
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Croatia thoujest
i'm not a believer and understand burden of proof and not all ideas are created equal. however, i don't equate religion to the scientific method. it's not meant to be that. its concern is with ethics, morality, meditation, and it's used as a cornerstone of ones tradition and culture. whatever culture you hail from you should, to an extent at least, respect your traditions and history which include religion. not because they're infallible (they're not) but because it is a part of you.
2023-01-10 10:09
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Argentina utu
tell me you're 19 without actually telling me you're 19.
2023-01-10 10:17
+1 My view is that the moon is made of rock. If someone says to me 'Well, you haven't been there, have you? You haven't seen it for yourself, so my view that it is made of Norwegian Beaver Cheese is equally valid' I swear americans get off on this shit, this is their favourite pastime.
2023-01-10 10:40
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Estonia Kukkel
White is black
2023-01-10 10:58
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+1
2023-01-10 12:26
No point in arguing with stupid. At that point better keep arguing with your own mirror. There are just too many people out there, that argue not to find truth, but to elevate their ego and push their world view.
2023-01-10 12:40
Reductio ad absurdum is my favourite type of argument, always has been and always will be!
2023-01-10 12:41
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+1
2023-01-10 12:55
+1
2023-01-10 13:06
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Brazil hfdjk
If humans found a way to immortality, God and all religions would disappear, as we would no longer have to deal with death.
2023-01-29 18:06
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Good hypothesis, but I still feel like some "spirituality" would remain.
2023-02-09 11:20
how often will you post this thread?
2023-01-29 18:11
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I have posted this thread once
2023-01-29 18:13
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look at date
2023-01-29 18:14
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+1 got baited, still true tho
2023-01-29 18:18
god died 😔
2023-02-02 16:51
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taylor swift is god
2023-02-09 13:08
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#51
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Russia Plynth
And Style by her is the holy scripture
2023-02-09 13:17
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+1
2023-02-09 13:27
meh, some ppl really need skydaddy to feel better. dont take this away from them just cuz u dont need it ^^
2023-02-09 13:14
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