This is true, which means that the Clouds and it's derivatives, generally sound at least decent. Not great, but perfectly usable The mic is still quite poor quality though Another gamery headset that is actually quite decent would be Cooler Master MH-751 (and 752), which is essentially a Takstar Pro 82 with a mic, but a pretty good one actually. Also it sounds clearer than the 80. That being said, gaming headsets' prime selling point isn't actually sound quality or performance in games (which is quite ironic), it's the convenience of not needing a separate microphone. Most gaming headsets are perfectly usable for gaming, even competitive gaming, but most aren't very good at it, few are great and fewer still are great AND comfortable.

1. I don't really need a new ones, but if I'll buy one I prefer it with mic or I need to look for a good mic as well :) 2. Gaming only I always switch to speakers for music/video 3. I have Logitech pro x and its a good headset, but sometimes its hard to pinpoint where the sound is coming from and when u have people talking it gets even harder. That was the thing where my old Sennheiser was really awesome

not bad but there is better)))

Sennheiser GSP 300, Cooler Master MH-751. Also, if you'd like some open-back alternatives, Philips SHP9500 and SHP9600 are quite often on sale for around that price and you can pair the witha V-moda Boom Pro mic. The caveat is that as open-backs, they don't really do sub-bass, and the 9500 is particularly bass light. Great for competitive FPS games though

That's a great find! That would be hard to beat. Personally, I'd still go for the GSP 300, they're 50 euros on amazon, but still, nice deal!

Hey, if you like them, that's great for you, if you don't mind the treble spike, these are great for gaming. I tried them with a good amount of gear, including my desk setup (GoXLR mini + JDS Labs Atom), my iBasso DX160 and a friend's Magni+Modi combo, and I couldn't do it on any of them. Then again, tinnitus is a bitch, so that didn't help :D Honestly, I'd much rather go for the 880's.

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