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overrated igls / underrated igls
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Mongolia JW_3_MAJOR_ZYWOO_0_MAJOR 
overrated: 1. aleksib (only good he ever did was with a full finnish lineup 4 years ago, how does he keep getting onto big teams?) 2. apex (possibly worst igl ever, vitality wat doink) 3. chopper (his teams are all shoot face with 0 tactics) underrated: 1. chrisj (people dont even think of him as an igl, but he brought random mouz nobodies to multiple tier 1 trophies) 2. zeus (single-handedly kept cis cs relevant for a decade) 3. dazed (na cs died the day he got banned)
2023-01-23 22:48
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Overrated: Aleksib gla1ve Underrated: karrigan
2023-01-23 22:49
51 replies
karrigan is considered the goat igl, how can he be underrated
2023-01-23 22:50
22 replies
Most people disagree
2023-01-23 22:50
7 replies
yes, and they are correct
2023-01-23 23:12
6 replies
Didnt have to expose your IQ like this
2023-01-23 23:23
5 replies
pronax goat
2023-01-23 23:44
2 replies
pronax is #4 on overrated list
2023-01-24 01:48
1 reply
At first i wasnt sure if you are baiting, thanks for confirming
2023-01-24 14:32
least delusional spaniard
2023-01-24 13:27
You exposed your IQ by writing your first comment.
2023-01-25 06:01
Glaive is GOAT of igl i guess. However if karrigan wins another major he might just overtake glaive due to the fact that he didn't have someone like Device Or even dupreeh(who was good in prime astralis) to carry.
2023-01-24 11:33
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#95
juho | 
Finland nUgez
yes but he still has four top-20 players around him?
2023-01-24 11:38
9 replies
How many where top 20 players pre Karrigan being their igl?
2023-01-24 14:26
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#225
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Australia Breeww
Twistzz, Ropz and Broky are all top 20 without Karrigan
2023-01-25 08:19
1 reply
Broky first time in 2021 with Karrigan as IGL. The other yes.
2023-01-26 18:58
+1 yeah lol, prime dupreeh is on the same level as current ropz, twistzz imo
2023-01-24 14:57
4? only blame and device mate. Other 2 are literal bots. Looks I used to hate glaive during the astralis era as well but not considering him the GOAT or at least in the conversation is dumb. Also device and the new player buzz literally joined the team like in December so give them time.
2023-01-24 14:58
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#235
juho | 
Finland nUgez
ment faze
2023-01-26 16:40
* made the top20 players.. rain, twistzz and broky were not in the top20 before karrigan joined
2023-01-24 15:05
2 replies
#210
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Yugoslavia kingcys
But they were.
2023-01-25 04:08
1 reply
broky wasn't
2023-01-25 08:57
What??? Karrigan IGLed both device and dupreeh in TSM and then later Astralis before glaive joined
2023-01-25 06:02
1 reply
In faze my guy. Device and dupreeh didn't reach their prime then right?
2023-01-25 13:07
You literally just answered your own question. But yeah as always people dont understand what under and overrated means-
2023-01-24 15:59
W
2023-01-23 23:03
#27
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United States ryan!nacs
i can understand from a specific pov why gla1ve is overrated in your eyes but if you win 4 majors and lead the team to being the best ever, not to mention being one of the few igls who can frag well enough to make the HLTV top 20 (in 2018) it is hard to be overrated. this is just my opinion but
2023-01-23 23:16
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#72
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
+1
2023-01-24 08:40
+1 and he didn't have good pieces like karrigan or the team was not built around him. That doesn't take away the fact that karrigan can develop and get 100% use of the players in his team.
2023-01-24 10:20
No lie here.
2023-01-25 05:51
Glaive overrated???? What are you high?
2023-01-24 11:32
4 replies
gla1ve in 2023 xd
2023-01-24 11:44
1 reply
He had slump but he can get better. What I see in his playstyle is thst often he wanna take initiative by force instead of brain. But aimwise he definitely good fir igl. And the gvuy who made thread is dumb. Chopper is bith good fragger and good igl last year spirit had good placements in importsnt tournaments. U cant go far without decent igl as u can see even navi is weak without igl when they have top coach and top players.
2023-01-24 13:51
rofl gla1ve is so overrated it's pathetic
2023-01-24 15:39
1 reply
Ok your opinion
2023-01-25 13:08
#99
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Finland Hekee
Karrigan might feel underrated because every good player have haters and best ones have most
2023-01-24 11:56
16 replies
Its 2023 and ppl still think he’s a bad IGL xdd
2023-01-24 11:59
15 replies
#104
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Finland Hekee
Still most succesfull
2023-01-24 12:01
14 replies
Most sucessful? Glaive is most sucessful tho do u even have eyes open.
2023-01-24 13:52
13 replies
#141
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Finland Hekee
I mean if u take whole cs career amd not only csgo
2023-01-24 14:09
12 replies
Even if u take allcs glaive is above karrigan with just majors alone without including other tournaments. Karrigan is good igl tho no disagreeing there. But 4 majors noone reached that yet Nd dont forget karrigan was kicked from tsm/astralis because he wasnt that good igl back then and also was making bit plays often like non pro player.
2023-01-24 14:12
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#143
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Finland Hekee
Of course majors come first with new kids. I forget it
2023-01-24 14:16
10 replies
I ratgher win 1 million tournament then 500-5000 old boomer tournament. Nt
2023-01-24 14:18
5 replies
#147
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Finland Hekee
Sry for your loss but we build this scene for you kid :)
2023-01-24 14:20
4 replies
So go and play cs 1.6 or source. And browse on int d rnet explorer since u like living in past and talk about 500 dollar tournaments who noone talk about no more. And im 23. How old r u 60? Go do something productive instead of typing on csgo forum. Go play some irrc since u live in nostalgia.
2023-01-24 14:22
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#149
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Finland Hekee
Im not living in the past but u cant forget past. U living in the past same way. Nah im not 60 im 33. I felt that same anger on your age too but u will get it in the end
2023-01-24 14:24
2 replies
Im calm not my fsult u like to assume shit. And I know past but its completely unrelated as esports now and then are different. Back then it was like a hobby for pros now is a job. Also now competition is much higher. And the game plays completely different just idea is same. And if u talk about past karrigsn is nobody still there when there is HeatoN markeloff and many other legendary players. Karrigsn only became good igl not thst msny years ago before he was trash. But kudos to him on not giving up and proving he can do it.
2023-01-24 14:28
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#155
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Finland Hekee
But it all start on some point. 20y forward there will be better igl then glaive. Back in the day there was pro players but u had to make so much work to earn enough. There is legendary players but not as karrigan who still can compete as he can after everything happened. And i get your point too but its still stupid to pull everything in the past down to toilet. U get it on some point when u grow up
2023-01-24 14:34
What else should come first lmfao. It is the biggest tournament in csgo obviously it will hold a big value. And that too glaive won it 4 times. It's like saying Messi's WC is less significant than penaldo's 5 UCLs lmao. If it was that easy to win then everyone would have won it.
2023-01-24 15:00
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#165
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Finland Hekee
WC is irrelevant because all players cant win that like haaland even he could be future goat
2023-01-24 15:02
2 replies
You are fucking dumb. You know that there is nothing stopping Haaland from playing in the WC, Norway just has to qualify or he can join the England team. If you consider Haaland a future GOAT you are dumb. Literally 0 personal accolades and trophies. Messi and cr7 both had UCL, Ballon D'or, and Golden boot by 22. And even Mbappe has a WC already. He is FAR from even being considered in the GOAT convo lmao.
2023-01-24 15:04
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#169
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Finland Hekee
U have no fucking idea what u talking. Its norway
2023-01-24 15:08
#182
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Sweden R4tse
Karrigan most overrated, name an igl that could not win trophies with players like ropz, Broky and twistz…
2023-01-24 15:28
Zeus
2023-01-23 22:49
Zeus isn't underrated, he was and probably remains the best CIS igl so far.
2023-01-23 22:50
12 replies
#7
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Poland Recruitn1
They should have genuinely taken him back in 2022. After that Boombl4 fiesta even though he is quite old there is and was quite no different option other than what they did with elec... which lost them progress for atleast rest 8months
2023-01-23 22:51
11 replies
nah bro , even in 2018 he used to be a absolute shit fragger and it's almost 5 years later
2023-01-23 23:03
2 replies
might aswell play 4v5 at that point
2023-01-23 23:03
1 reply
god being a navi fan in the edward flamie zeus days were really rough, was a 2v5 some maps for s1mple and elec and they still managed to stay top 2 consistently vs astralis
2023-01-25 05:55
#21
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
I dont think zeus even wanted to come back. I think hes enjoying his retirement But yeah it would of been better than whatever they have going atm. Especially since he would have no issue being a hard entry and playing all the bitch roles
2023-01-23 23:03
7 replies
#23
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Poland Recruitn1
He actually practiced with them but they decided not to pick him. No idea why
2023-01-23 23:04
6 replies
#48
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
I mean he was never exactly good at aiming. They probably thought he wasnt good enough. I mean with hindsight he couldnt of been much worse than sdy but they couldnt of known that in advance
2023-01-24 00:18
3 replies
But prime s1 would have been unleashed smh. The amount of carrying he did in 2018 was insane
2023-01-24 11:34
2 replies
#106
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Yeah 2018 s1 was nuts same with 21
2023-01-24 12:36
1 reply
Even start of 22 was amazing. Idk why he decided to take a break after cologne. Also needs to put his focus back on cs but can understand why he can't rn due to the war and stuff
2023-01-24 14:56
Never heard of these rumors. Either way I think even navi players don't really respect him because he's a big goof irl. s1mple and B1ad3 have way too much authority in navi and Zeus likes to be in control as well. Would pretty much be a personality clash. Boombl4 fit well in that navi team, because he could handle it
2023-01-24 13:48
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True also boomich wasnt the brain of igl just thst hes playstyle and Ggressive fast entrying fit them so well. Now they dont have dedicated entry who can do what he did and leave others do their jib. Jnow I see bit or simple and etc entry which theyy do better in cluthing and etc. Boomich was decdnt mid round caller or great space maker which they lack now. Simple is obvs better at clutching but he can entry but now he cant have full potential when navi is dysfunctional.
2023-01-24 13:56
zeus is not overrated, he is the best CIS IGL in CSGO, he proved it after being kicked from navi and then winning a major with Gambit
2023-01-23 22:51
14 replies
You are changing history for your own benefit Dosia single handedly won them that major with his inferno pit nade
2023-01-23 23:19
2 replies
how could I forget about his contribution omg
2023-01-23 23:47
Inferno even got nerfed now after dosias invention of pit nade xD they had to increase bomb blast radius.
2023-01-24 13:57
Read again, he says that Zeus is underrated
2023-01-24 10:33
3 replies
I meant Zeus is not underrated, he is like between overrated and underrated
2023-01-24 19:23
2 replies
So properly rated then?
2023-01-24 20:07
1 reply
that's the phrase. yes
2023-01-24 20:10
#113
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Kazakhstan Avantc7
Zeus got hard carried by AdreN and Hobbit to get that Major, he was always a 0.85 player both in Gambit and Navi, the most overrated player ever
2023-01-24 13:04
6 replies
#159
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Moldova nutel
First of all zeus had 1.03 rating at the major, and we are back at the discussion of igls rating which is dumb af. Secondly is that you miss the part where zeus basically locked the whole squad for a couple of weeks at a bootcamp and made them train their ass off before the major which paid off. And then when he left the team gambit dissapeared with all their carries. Stop undermining igls role in a team when they bottom frag. And after they get kicked off the team i'm sure ur the first one to cry on the hltv about that Also check electronic rating after becoming igl. One of the best rifler to touch the game sometimes can't even hit 1 kd
2023-01-24 14:53
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#188
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Kazakhstan Avantc7
«when he left the team gambit dissapeared with all their carries» Lmao is constantly making tier1 semis/playoffs and winning trophies(separately from Gambit) called “disappearing with all their carries”? Kek old Gambit’s achievements in tier-1 events after winning the Major: DHM Malmo 2017 - 3-4th IEM Oakland 2017 - playoff ELeague Major 2018 - main event DHM Marseille 2018 - 3-4th IEM Shanghai 2018 - 3-4th ESL One New York - 3-4th and apart from Gambit AdreN won 2 trophies and made Katowice 2019 playoff with FaZe Clan, 1 trophy/another Major final with Avangar and I’m even talking about Hobbit who’s made more than AdreN after 2017. you are trying to argue over something being absolutely ignorant about the topic))
2023-01-24 15:38
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#194
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Moldova nutel
"you are trying to argue over something being absolutely ignorant about the topic" - and proceeds to list achievements in other teams as an argument lmao. Also lists a couple of events that had mostly tier 2 teams. Omiting all the events they bombed out which were the majority by a long shot. And elegaue major they didn't even make it to the playoffs lul. They weren't the same team after zeus left and after a lot of strugling eventually disbanded.
2023-01-24 16:48
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#195
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Kazakhstan Avantc7
four of those events, Malmö, Oakland, Marseille, New York were all elite Intel Grand Slam events btw, and no they were the same team after Zeus left, results speak for themselves, cuz the main reason they won the Major was because of Hobbit and especially AdreN insanely peaking (he had like 1.29 stats for both Majors that year). Zeus was just an ordinary player
2023-01-24 17:21
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#197
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Moldova nutel
no
2023-01-24 17:48
1 reply
#198
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Kazakhstan Avantc7
you have no argument, expected
2023-01-24 18:07
Overrated : karrigan 100% Underrated : cadiaN, nafany, Jesus Jame
2023-01-23 22:51
9 replies
How is Cadian or Jame underrated and how is karrigan overrated lololololo
2023-01-23 23:23
other way around if anything
2023-01-24 01:49
3 replies
nobody overrates and ever talks about cadiaN, nafany or Jame People only mention karrigan, Aleksib because they are more known lol especially karrigan who never played for underdogs. This is just funny to read when people say that FaZe had a great year because of karrigan. They either dont watch their games at all or too delusional to see that FaZe is basically a "go-kill" team. They have 0 tactics since forever. It has always being a very aim-based team. And if you replace karrigan with basically any top IGL FaZe would still be as great as they are now and probably better since karrigan has the worst individual skill after HooXi cadiaN has great players too, yeah, sure. But look where they were a few years ago. Look at their calls and playstyle compared to FaZe. Look at cadiaN as an individual as well. They came from nothing. And this wouldnt be possble without a world-class IGL. Same goes to nafany as well. Jame is kinda new to IGLing but he is very smart and has an interesting view on the game and how it should be played, very interetsing decisions, reads the game really well. Karrigan is basically the only option for most EU teams since they dont know any IGL besides him and Aleksib. Any danish or russian-speaking squad would always have a better IGL if you tried to make the best possiible international team with karrigan vs danish or russian lineup
2023-01-25 00:17
2 replies
karrigan never played for underdogs???? did you forget his little envyus project that ended so horribly envy left the scene?
2023-01-25 05:57
1 reply
never achieved anything while playing for underdogs anyone can win with GuardiaN, rain and NiKo in his team
2023-01-25 20:20
Nafany underrated? What did he win outside that fluke online period and IEM Dallas. Literally choked Rio major cause of how well shiro was playing.
2023-01-24 11:35
2 replies
Is not always titles is also how consistent placements u get the further u go the more consistent u are and the more chances u will wom eventually and also gives ideas if any changes or adjustments needtk be done. If u got 2nd 3rd places is better then 5-8 and etc u auakify more. Better prize. Better motivation and more invites and more factors.
2023-01-24 14:00
Yeah, they came 2d at BLAST Finals and 3-4th at their first ever major in Stockholm same year people were crying about them being "onliners". Both times lost to NaVi who were basically unstoppable. So if not the NaVi-era, they could have won much more. They were basically the second best team in Stockholm, they would easily take the trophy if not NaVi. Same happened to NaVi in 2018-2020 when there was a team called Astralis And they needed much less time than NaVi to achieve such things, even though NaVi had the best sniper and CIS riflers at that time
2023-01-25 00:33
W1nspiratioN
2023-01-25 12:48
#10
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Hungary Doybik
Underrated: Scrunk
2023-01-23 22:53
Overrated: Happy Underrated: Ex6TenZ
2023-01-23 22:53
6 replies
no one has happy in the legendary igl conversation so i dont think he is overrated
2023-01-24 00:12
5 replies
I do
2023-01-24 09:15
4 replies
i believe you
2023-01-24 09:25
All I csn remember is thst deagle B site 1 deags that he got dont remember if Quadra or ace but that was insane also I remember once I did almost same play in that spot too.
2023-01-24 14:01
2 replies
you should research him more my friend, legendary player in his prime, that whole roster was
2023-01-24 14:16
1 reply
I know who he is lmao. I watch and play cdgo since 2013-2014 since beta. He was decent but thats all I remember him. Kioshima is even better than him.
2023-01-24 14:20
overrated karrigan underrated nafany
2023-01-23 23:00
2 replies
hows nafany underrated, with that team under him with 2 top 5 players he should have way more success and trophies than he does now
2023-01-24 00:43
1 reply
You forget that his calling made academy players into word class superstars
2023-01-24 13:43
Underrated nafany Overrated my faceit teammates
2023-01-23 23:01
underrated: Jerry
2023-01-23 23:03
overrated gla1ve, art underrated karrigan, mezii, nitr0
2023-01-23 23:05
4 replies
I have not heard anybody say anything good about art lol. Even Furia fans are out for his head. At IEM Rio he was constantly being called out by the talent. If anything he is underrated with how much people hate him.
2023-01-23 23:58
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#46
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Brazil Madamrocas
as a furia fan, +1
2023-01-24 00:13
#65
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United States Topher
Art is one of my favorite players
2023-01-24 02:07
Well I have
2023-01-24 11:29
Every igl is underrated
2023-01-23 23:15
2 replies
#30
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France insaneliar
+1
2023-01-23 23:20
youre not wrong
2023-01-24 01:49
Can't believe nobody has talked about Tabsen yet :p underrated af
2023-01-23 23:17
#31
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Finland KieZuZ
How is aleksib overrated if everyone say he is overrated?
2023-01-23 23:20
8 replies
#40
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United States TheKrampus
+1
2023-01-23 23:51
He keeps getting opportunities with tier-1 teams. How many opportunities did Alex or NBK etc get?
2023-01-24 00:07
3 replies
alex is myb not a good example, its pretty much the same number of times
2023-01-24 00:15
2 replies
Alex had vitality (seems like some internal conflict made him leave) then an online-era c9 team who gives a fuck about that team... and then fnatic which he did kind of mess up but they were never going to be a top team. Aleksib had ence, og,g2 and now NIP After NBK left g2 who had mixed success and were worse without him seems like he never got another real opportunity.
2023-01-24 00:31
1 reply
Aleksis ence era was succesful, OG at online era, yes he failed at G2 but now he has a chance at NIP
2023-01-24 10:12
even thorin says hes a great igl
2023-01-24 01:50
2 replies
#77
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
Ufff... Thorins love for outcasts. Aleksib, K0nfig etc etc
2023-01-24 08:50
Dont trust what Thorin says .-.
2023-01-24 12:42
Aleksi ain't overrated. You will see it this year when he gets into top 5 with NIP.
2023-01-23 23:21
1 reply
nip could get top5 easy, if they kick him
2023-01-24 02:00
Overrated: Apex Underrated: (Most underrated: Dexter) Jame, Cadian (People don’t really see how much focus you need when you are awping and igl-ing at the same time)
2023-01-23 23:26
Who rates Apex high?
2023-01-23 23:37
1 reply
nobody, hes rated low already but u dont hear him called utter dogshit often enough
2023-01-24 01:50
Overrated: Karrigan Underrated: NiKo
2023-01-23 23:41
1 reply
Source: NiKo
2023-01-24 13:41
Underrated: Cadian and Dexter Overrated: Aleksib, Nexa, current gla1ve.
2023-01-23 23:52
2 replies
#67
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United States 1Tuurtle
I don’t think anyone overrates current Glaive
2023-01-24 02:18
1 reply
#76
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
Yup. Everyone knows he is missing his calls.
2023-01-24 08:49
#44
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Czech Republic czRamtin03
Chris true af
2023-01-24 00:10
underrated seangares, smart af, cant shoot shit
2023-01-24 00:24
#51
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Other roeJ_fan
disagree about chopper and don't know about dazed rest agree
2023-01-24 00:37
#53
WolfY | 
Sweden hoey
steel was a way better IGL than dazed though
2023-01-24 00:44
#54
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North Macedonia ajapw987
overrated: hooxi - has mechanics of a faceit lvl 6 underrated: nafany, snappi, nexa
2023-01-24 00:58
aleksib only ever really failed with G2. He made that og team better than what was expected and they only lacked in firepower, which he made the most out of. apex made a team that really shouldn't be able to compete on tier 1 on paper. In 2020, he brought a team with rpk and misutaa to number 1 briefly, consistently top 3 at least. bro you do understand chrisJ did the exact same thing as chopper except for the fact that chopper ACTUALLY plays with random noobies. ropz, oskar and sunny all made the top 20 list and were all considered great players. dazed: He was a decent igl at the time and people give him about the credit he deserves and no, the NA scene didn't die because they lost him, swag and steel were greater losses.
2023-01-24 01:59
5 replies
everything u said is wrong, congrats
2023-01-24 02:01
2 replies
#66
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United States Topher
Swag was the biggest loss na ever had
2023-01-24 02:09
1 reply
stewie and tarik to mibr was another one, ruined both teams
2023-01-25 05:59
Zywoo was the one who always carried Vitality team.I guarantee if Apex got kicked from Vitality we will never ever see him compete in tier 1 again,just like the others French pro.
2023-01-24 11:57
1 reply
Yes absolutely but zywoo with a completely dysfunctional team of tier 2 talent would not win tier 1 trophies year on year. You can't take everything vitality has ever done and say it was all about zywoo all along
2023-01-24 12:02
Dazed was a good IGL but Steel was the real loss IMO. Well Swag was the real loss but that's a different discussion. Just imagine 2016 Liquid with Swag instead of Adren or 2017 C9 with Stew, Auti and Swag. It's impossible to say what would have happened but it's almost certain the trophy cabinet would be bigger.
2023-01-24 02:26
#69
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Grenada G2_BEST
Underrated Hooxi
2023-01-24 02:40
#70
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Russia wwworst
hooxi is overrated af hahahaha tier-1 events will expose him cant wait to see niko malding after failed contact rounds or mac-10 rushes
2023-01-24 08:25
aleksiB "firepower" virolainen great igl
2023-01-24 08:35
#74
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
Overrated Aleksib, Stewie2k, JT, Hampus, BlameF ( especially in Astralis. He is shot caller on Mirage and except BlameF himself. No one had positive rating on that map. Last I checked Xyp Gla1ve was under 0.90. Farlig around 0.70 and k0nfig [when playing] 0.95) Underrated CadiaN, Nexa, Dexter.
2023-01-24 08:49
5 replies
Not sure that CadiaN is underrated, just overhated
2023-01-24 10:19
4 replies
He is fairly rated. Overrated nahhh. His personality is trash.
2023-01-24 11:37
3 replies
Overhated* Read my post
2023-01-24 12:49
2 replies
#115
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
XD. Even I got Baited into thinking overrated. CadiaN is pretty underrated. He had a great campaign last year and for which people don't give enough credit. Ya... he has big personality. There was a time where I would have wanted to say...put your money where your mouth is. But now he does puts his money where his mouth is.
2023-01-24 13:13
1 reply
Yeah i only hate him because i ain't him
2023-01-24 13:33
OVERRATED : FALLEN UNDERRATED : MAJ3R
2023-01-24 08:49
Underrated: dexter, nafany, chr1zn (mouz nxt bias) maze Overrated: siuhy, nexa, snappi
2023-01-24 09:24
1 reply
who
2023-01-24 10:18
apEX totally agree Zeus major force was the same as with Karrigan, people just loved to play under him. But he was never tactically smart and often played with emotions, rather than Karrigan.
2023-01-24 10:18
whats up with u hating aleksi?
2023-01-24 10:21
Overrated: aleksi B Underrated: boombl4, cause even though blade was a huge part of NaVi success, boombl4 calls style and playstyle was a crucial part of their success according to me
2023-01-24 11:37
overrated: apEX underrated: hampus, dexter
2023-01-24 11:43
Underrated: noktse
2023-01-24 11:52
#101
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Finland Hekee
Underrated: aleksib Overrated: tabsen and gob b
2023-01-24 11:58
big boom is so underrated man ngl sheeesh
2023-01-24 11:58
what
2023-01-24 12:38
#108
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Germany pimpfi
all retired okeee
2023-01-24 12:41
aleksib will show he is underrated
2023-01-24 12:43
overrated: karrigan, aleksib underrated: boombl4, nexa
2023-01-24 13:00
#114
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Kazakhstan Avantc7
overrated: Zeus underrated: tabseN, G2 nexa
2023-01-24 13:07
1 reply
tabsen is overrated af, good fragger but terrible igl
2023-01-24 13:20
Jerry is Underrated He built decent top 15 teams out of 3 different ForZe lineups. Also his English is the best out of all the CIS players, so I hope he'll get his chance in tier1 team with opportunities
2023-01-24 13:14
2 replies
jerry really is a genius like every time he gets new kids in forze i know he will somehow make them top 20 and participate in at least one relevant tournament always disappointed how he never gets other opportunities
2023-01-24 13:50
1 reply
tbf tho didnt he decline navi at one point? seems like its his fault that hes still in forze
2023-01-25 06:01
i only disagree with chopper and apEX being over-rated chopper is really simple, he does not have a lot of "tactics" what he does have is incredible defaults on every T side, Spirits dust2 wasn't feared for nothing as it was tough to break them. and is impressive at conditioning the enemy team. makes it a lot easier to call a mid-round knowing that the CT's will eventually have to shake up their defense (aggressive or passive) apEX style of igl-ing does not work when he is working with players like Magisk and dupreeh who clearly want to approach the game in a different way. taking map control slowly, grind down utility from the CT's. freezing and playing by the numbers. apEX was good at calling a very reactive style with the french team since it was very simple and easy to follow for players like misutaa and Kyojin, and you had shox and zywoo who knew how to adapt to whats being called. you can maybe even argue that apEX not speaking in french is making his calling worse. he also gave up all his roles to dupreeh and spinx and is playing a whole new role for him pretty much agree with everything else very good underrated picks ))
2023-01-24 13:19
over: tabsen (somehow players improve once they go into academy roster) jt (still in complexity??) snappi (cant close maps) under: dexter (idk how people still sleepin on this kid) mezii (fnc is back bb)
2023-01-24 13:21
W opinion on underrated
2023-01-24 13:29
Apex very underrated
2023-01-24 13:31
Hooxi, Nitro and Nexa super overrated all of them.
2023-01-24 13:53
I was so sad when Chrisj didnt accept fpx deal, would be such a different story than what happened with emi
2023-01-24 13:53
I would love to see MSL again in action he always had something special going on not sure if fairly rated
2023-01-24 13:55
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#206
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Romania bLaZe_420
Well he was in action with Titans last year and before that in 2021 with South, both projects were shit. MSL should become a coach or something, i just don't see him adapting to the new meta, new maps on top of that he's not good at shooting people anymore. Why do people love msl so much? Have you seen him play since he was in North lol?
2023-01-25 00:57
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yeah but he had bad players and no real org that diesnt count
2023-01-25 05:44
2 replies
#223
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Romania bLaZe_420
Titans was a real org and MSL is shit nowadays i don't know how it's that hard for you to accept it.
2023-01-25 07:46
1 reply
its unacceptable thats what it is
2023-01-25 12:45
majer is underrated
2023-01-24 13:55
Aleksi might be the most overrated of all time its insane
2023-01-24 13:57
#151
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Zimbabwe Negus69
Overrated: tabsen, nafany, apex, gla1ve, electronic, aleksib Underrated: hooxi, Dexter, snappi, boomich, cadian, jame
2023-01-24 14:27
#154
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South America Dorinha13
arT is underrated and i can prove youtube.com/watch?v=c7Jr7iYyU3M
2023-01-24 14:34
#157
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United Kingdom FNC_TOP_1
overrated: all NA igls except nitr0 xizt (cyst) glaive fallen underrated: golden pronax
2023-01-24 14:39
very overrated: karrigan underrated: jame
2023-01-24 14:45
#163
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Nepal triskacik
apex is so underrated If you gave him Zywoo, s1mple, Niko and Axile, he would've won Snow Sweet Snow and Elisa back to back lil bro
2023-01-24 14:59
chopper overrated LMAO
2023-01-24 15:07
kyxsan underrated
2023-01-24 15:25
#180
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Norway r0meo
“Big teams” Nip lul
2023-01-24 15:26
#183
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Russia ToughGuy
underrated: boombl4
2023-01-24 15:32
gla1ve is easily the most overrated igl ever aleksi is actually underrated tbh... so many people shiting on him for no reason
2023-01-24 15:38
1 reply
+1
2023-01-24 15:40
#192
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Latvia zegiz
karrigan. Just compare karrigan 2021 and karrigan 2022. and remember the only change they had.
2023-01-24 15:43
overrated: -karrigan (so much ppl consider him goat for no reason lol) -apex (trash) underrated: -neo -zeus -cadian -art
2023-01-25 00:12
"3. dazed (na cs died the day he got banned)" Only temporarily.
2023-01-25 00:36
tbh ChrisJ DID lead a number 1 team at one point (mouz early 2018)
2023-01-25 03:48
-dazed+steel
2023-01-25 03:49
I read overrated girls / underrated girls, now that would have been a fine thread. Get outta here with your on-topic bs
2023-01-25 03:52
Overrated: Cadian, Jame Underrated: Steel (IBP, Ghost), birdfromsky
2023-01-25 04:19
Underrated: allu
2023-01-25 04:43
1 reply
#224
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Finland Hekee
Also sunny underrated
2023-01-25 07:47
technically he's an igl now, but i mean it mostly as a player: Lack1. massively underrated, his kick killed entropiq
2023-01-25 06:18
#222
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Bosnia and Herzegovina GiGodbest
Underrated: NiKo gn
2023-01-25 06:22
Karrigan is overrated
2023-01-25 08:28
#228
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Albania gg2re
i remember crisj calls. rush b in last rounds because he didnt know what to call
2023-01-25 09:00
#234
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Sweden Suno
chopper????? one of the best cis callers
2023-01-25 20:22
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