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BEST PURE AIM
FalleN | 
France HoxjE 
THIS THREAD IS ONLY ABOUT PURE AIM (even if dumb player) CAT S : NIKO --> ZYWOO --> S1MPLE --> TWISTZ CAT 1 : AX1LE --> ROPZ --> B1t --> SCREAM --> XANTARES CAT 2 : STAVN --> YEKINDAR --> M0NEZY ... Thoughts ?
2023-01-24 00:04
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#1
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United States EwyQwarp
Xantares in S tier
2023-01-24 00:06
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#11
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Brazil Jo$epH
xantares top 1 and no one more
2023-01-24 00:14
really dont understand how xantares aims so well with acceleration on source: settings.pro/players/xantares/
2023-01-24 01:24
24 replies
vs tier2 always amazing aim, top1 aim vs tier2
2023-01-24 01:37
4 replies
1.05 vs top 5 opponents (69 maps) 1.07 vs top 50 opponents (175 maps)
2023-01-24 12:15
3 replies
Thats what i say ?
2023-01-24 18:28
2 replies
You are saying that he is good against tier2 and I wrote his rating against top5 and top50 is the same so no, this is not what you say
2023-01-24 18:32
1 reply
your stats are very wrong, go watch it again
2023-01-24 18:52
He has like 20k+ hours I believe, it's basically ingrained in his muscle memory at this point.
2023-01-24 01:42
16 replies
15 replies
Nice article. Thank u.
2023-01-24 08:15
+111111
2023-01-24 08:38
This is some of the dumbest shit I have ever read tbh, muscle memory is the reason I can still outaim most people in CS and I rarely even play anymore. I have used the same settings for 20 years and always make sure my CS sensitivity = same sensitivity in other FPS games. Muscle memory isn't a meme, you wouldn't practice aim or play aimbotz if it wasn't beneficial. If Xantares didn't have the hours he has he could never be so consistent with mouseaccel.
2023-01-24 22:32
12 replies
#157
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Germany Matkee
copium
2023-01-24 22:35
i'm sure you know better than voltaic
2023-01-24 22:39
9 replies
I have no idea who that is. Just think about it logically, why would you practice aim at all if muscle memory WASN'T real? How do you think basketball players can hit fadeaway 3 pointers consistently in the highest pressure situations? Why would they spend 1000s of hours shooting baskets? Do you think skill is all a natural gift? If you have ever played a sport at a high level you would know this. Eventually your brain gets into "the zone" - when you hit this point, you don't think about what you are doing at all - your natural reflexes (muscle memory) and experience take over and you just go do your thing - you aim at a head or shoot the ball. Perfect example of this is Jackz, he hits some sick reaction / reflex shots. He is considered "old" in CS years. Why do you think he can still hit more insane headshots than most people 10 years younger than him?
2023-01-24 23:03
8 replies
did you even read the article? 'just think about it logically' - practicing aim makes you better at aim because your mouse control and fine motor skills improve. practicing on a variety of sensitivities improves the control of different areas (wrist, finger, arm) and so will improve your aim faster than if you stick to one sensitivity you give the example of jackz, a player who is by no means the pinacle of mechanics. 'he hits some sick reaction / reflex shots' - so does everybody. voltaic is an aim (training) group with some of the best aimers in the world, including the player generally agreed to be the best (mattyow)
2023-01-24 23:24
7 replies
I don't agree with any of that article, muscle memory is scientifically proven. Making a case for "adapting" to better your aim by changing your settings is just plain stupid. There is no pro gamer that changes his settings to train aim. Find me one pro CS player who does that. In regards to Jackz - multiple people named him in this thread as one of the best aimers lol. He has much better reactions than most, if you asked him - I would bet he would tell you why - he has played on the same settings for years. Niko? probably played with the same sens since his 1.6 days. f0rest has always played with 1400 EDPI - for 20 years. His argument sounds good but it's just not reality. Another way to think about it in a real world example, have you ever driven multiple cars continently? I have a 440 HP Mustang and a 271 HP turbo STI. If I drive my STI too long, I feel very heavy footed driving my Mustang. So no, it doesn't actually make me a "better driver" overall.
2023-01-24 23:39
6 replies
'muscle memory is scientifically proven' - in fact it's scientifically disproven: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4747782.. 'multiple people named him in this thread as one of the best aimers': 1. People itt are not a benchmark for skill. benchmarks (like standardised kovaaks scenarios) are 2. CS aim is incredibly simplified and only really utilises some elements of aiming 3. people itt are only talking about cs players 'I would bet he would tell you why' - what makes you think he knows why he has good aim? do you think he has done research and testing with hundreds of other players to investigate whether sens changing is useful? i don't think he has, but I know a group who has actually. if you need a benchmark for a cs player's aim, elige is ranked as masters on voltaic benches. there's like 200 people on the VT discord alone that rank higher
2023-01-24 23:57
5 replies
You linked a study where the time of the study was 2 days. 2 days... Big wow man. Much time to develop actual muscle memory. I would also encourage you to stop quoting some random guy "benchmarking" players aim as well lol. It's like you don't really understand this argument at a real level. In regards to science, they have done studies on Alzheimer's patents who literally have completely lost their minds and can somehow remember how to play complex songs on piano or guitar verbatim. How do you explain that? Did they take the aim test and join the VT discord and hit the top 200 aimers? Enough hltv.org for one day. G'day sir
2023-01-25 03:27
4 replies
wtf you on about dementia patients it's pretty simple. the best aimers say that changing sens is useful and that muscle memory isn't really a thing. joebagz from hltv and misinformed faceit level 6s say that muscle memory is real also from #168 'There is no pro gamer that changes his settings to train aim' - tenz, pengu, zexrow, n0ted, mattyow, bardoz, basically everyone in aim intensive games it's less common in CS becuase pros don't particularly practice mechanics and the skill ceiling is generally lower for aiming
2023-01-25 05:59
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#186
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Germany beezy0
Why do you invest so much into pseudo-science? VT noobs could never beat cs pros. If your aim train garbage is so proven and good, then why does nobody (Elige is getting paid btw) actually relevant in cs pro scene use it? "Well because cs needs no aim" IDIOT - go play kovaaks and keep sucking at actual video games. Always funny seeing the biggest aim train nerds hardstuck in low elo cs/val. You can even get special discord rank in VT for having 2700 elo, what a joke community. NO BRAINERS believing in BULLSHIT
2023-01-25 12:30
2 replies
#211
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Canada pulmig
BROO WDYM KOVAAKS HELPS MY AIM IM GONNA BUY DEAGLE ARMOR EVERY ROUND CAUSE IM SUCH A GODTIER AIMER
2023-01-25 19:34
elige was in voltaic for like a year before becoming staff btw 'go play kovaaks and keep sucking at actual video games' - nice ad hominem lmao
2023-01-25 23:36
0/8
2023-01-24 22:48
just muscle memory, settings dont matter after youve been on the same ones for 10k+ hours
2023-01-24 02:04
fyi fnx fer taco played with mouse accel their first major, maybe some of them still used for their 2nd and some other br players like HEN1, felps and LUCAS1. When autimatic use to carry every game on c9 before their major win, he also played with mouse accel. youtube.com/watch?v=5Llc9qjetDg youtube.com/watch?v=Bn_PdX5T_d8 I also play with it on and off, game is easier for me with it on tbh
2023-01-24 09:14
#2
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Portugal cyn1cal
where jackz then
2023-01-24 00:06
17 replies
jackz has good aim only in certain situation, sometime he's gonna miss a spray by a mile while the other player are pretty consistent But sharp jackz on a good day can be easy at TIer 1
2023-01-24 00:08
16 replies
#7
FalleN | 
France HoxjE
+1
2023-01-24 00:09
But.... Niko said that Jackz has a better aim than him, which is true. Raw duel 1v1 Jackz wins. Niko is just way better at every single other things in the game.
2023-01-24 00:10
12 replies
the things is it's gonna be hard so compare since NIKO has a better crosshair placement whitch mean a better raw aim (less time to kill and instant hs ) than jacks Aim needs multiple things and in game Niko has a better aim than JAckz (even if Jackz migth be better than him on aim map)
2023-01-24 00:12
6 replies
yes, that's why I said that jackz is better when it comes to reacting to things and putting his crosshair to them, hunter even said that they've done an actual reaction speed test in a lab and Jackz has it as high as it gets for humans - fighter pilot level. Niko is better, Niko knows where to pre aim and when and that's why Niko will always win more. But that's pre aim, that's game sense. When you say "aim" then that's point and click - jackz >>>>> niko. Jackz > most. But I am not sure why would you invent reasons to compare them because in a piece Blast did iirc Niko said it him self that Jackz has a better aim. If Niko says it - there's no reason to doubt it.
2023-01-24 00:17
4 replies
Niko usually underrate himslef on interviews, when i say "pure aim" i mean Pure aim on OFFICIAL MAP POOL in good toornaments, no PURE AIM in reactions test or aim map or i could have add some no namer like TENZ as well
2023-01-24 00:22
3 replies
Niko's word VS word from some French pleb on HLTV? I take Niko's word. Fact that Jackz has rating below 1 does not mean his aim is bad, even when he has 4 kills in a map all 4 of those are something most people would get reported over.
2023-01-24 00:28
2 replies
I would put jackz on cat1 like i said but not S :)
2023-01-24 00:35
Why the fick are you so triggered lmao
2023-01-24 06:48
crosshair placement is game knowledge not raw aim, raw aim is hand eye coordination
2023-01-25 03:39
Jackz can be tier S to tier 2 depending on the situation, niko will be consistently better overall aim wise
2023-01-24 00:17
3 replies
You said "pure aim". Jackz pure aim is S+ , Niko wins more because he has better pre-aim and way better game sense. Niko is a better player and there's no doubts, but Niko said it him self that raw aim - Jackz is better. Jackz is always S+ tier with aim, man has as high as it gets reaction speed for humans. Niko getting more kills =/= better pure aim. Fact that I have to explain this to you tells me your rank is not that high.
2023-01-24 00:20
2 replies
2023-01-24 00:22
#133
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France HippzZ
+1, pure aim is pure aim it doesn't involve crosshair placement of if it is against tier 2 or 1 Btw Kyojin also tier S in pure aim
2023-01-24 11:44
Just because Niko said it doesn't mean it's true, pros say dumb things all the time.
2023-01-24 08:26
spot on!
2023-01-24 00:52
Aim =/= Spray control imo
2023-01-24 11:18
Where jackz
2023-01-24 00:06
#4
FalleN | 
France HoxjE
Jackz between b1t and SCREAM i forgot
2023-01-24 00:07
1 reply
respect
2023-01-24 00:07
Me
2023-01-24 00:10
2 replies
In category of your own 🔥🔥🔥
2023-01-24 00:14
1 reply
frfr in the bottom one 💀 along with all other hltv users excluding me ofc
2023-01-24 23:08
xantares should be in tier s, he's insane af
2023-01-24 00:23
6 replies
Tier S are players that show their ultimate pick AIM on the biggest occasions and toornaments, xantares never reached their level on these occasions
2023-01-24 00:25
He's insane but he won't ever be as good as zywoo Niko S1mple unless he joins tier 1team. Best he been was in Big and even reached top 1 in hltv ranking for short time.
2023-01-24 00:28
3 replies
Xantares is not even close to those 3 even in a tier1 team ahah
2023-01-24 01:10
2 replies
Why u mad bro haha
2023-01-24 08:52
False.xantares is arguably best aimer in game. That doesn't mean his brain. Game sense. Awareness. Reaction times. Versatility. Etc are on same level. But aim wise with rifle he's best at it. Meanwhile simple and zywoo can use any gun in the game and get kills.
2023-01-24 11:07
watch fpl or old space soldiers and big against top aimers that you hope
2023-01-25 19:21
Hard to compare but all are top aimers
2023-01-24 00:25
If we are talking about pure aim XANTARES > all. He is a freaking machine. I would even bet my car if he goes to 1v1 in aim map against ANY players over BO3. Period.
2023-01-24 00:25
2 replies
2023-01-24 00:38
+1 Best aimer the game has ever seen: pley.gg/news/device-before-big-xantares-..
2023-01-24 22:50
#22
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Europe thatswhyme
xantares is definitely in s tier
2023-01-24 00:26
7 replies
Never shown a PICK aim as hight as those in catS in the biggest toornament and opposition, this is not a 1v1 aim map AIM tier list, this is a PURE AIM on official maps and toornaments
2023-01-24 00:38
6 replies
#42
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Europe thatswhyme
pure aim, crosshair placement and gamesense are different things and the kills in the matches are a combination of these. if we are talking about pure aim xantares maybe the best in the world
2023-01-24 01:00
5 replies
No, because i talk about pure AIM on relevant moments, otherwise i would have include Tenz Lmao
2023-01-24 01:09
3 replies
"pure AIM on relevant moments" lmao read that again mens
2023-01-24 05:48
2 replies
I read that again
2023-01-24 06:06
1 reply
now type that again
2023-01-24 06:29
And crosshair placement is part of the aim
2023-01-24 01:09
I genuinely think zywoo and s1mple have better aim than niko. because in same situation (if xhair placement and positioning dont matter) i;m pretty sure zywoo and s1mple are superior
2023-01-24 00:33
2 replies
Its debatable honnestly
2023-01-24 00:36
crosshair placement and positioning do matter in aim tho. I'm sure some level 6 has insane raw aim but obviously you wouldnt call them good because they are ass at everything else.
2023-01-24 11:16
Niko b1t twistz
2023-01-24 00:34
I would say the only people that should be in S tier are players like Xantares b1t (2021) s1mple shox (13/14) twistzz Scream should be at Cat 2 since tapping and high headshot percentage =/= good aim B1t and twistzz have such high headshot not because they go for flashy plays like scream, but because they have such good control of their mouse and always end up 182 in 2 which make them really insane riflers. Xantares is just a nobrainer, he can flick all over the monitor and never miss a single target, same with s1mple. Prime shox was a different type of beast. All the other you mentioned don't necesarrily have bad aim, It's just that most of it comes from them having insanely good crosshair placements and being in "favourable" positions. For example, zywoo is a player that would consistantly win more unwinnable situations than s1mple just because he is an incredibly smart player and positions himself well while s1mple would win unwinnable rounds that leave you completely dumbfounded. Like all the players I mentioned in S tier are more likely to win those impossible scenarios whereas the other ones wouldn't even put themselves in impossible scenarios and win more based on positioning crosshair placements and other. This is all my opinion not facts, I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
2023-01-24 00:45
9 replies
This might have been really fucked up explained by me, I'd be happy to continue explaining my opinion if you want.
2023-01-24 00:46
I take crosshair placement as part of the AIM and zywoo and Niko have the best crosshair placement in the world, thats why i put them in S tier and pretty much first. Xantares never shown his aim at a pick level as hight as the guys in S tier in the biggest toornaments and vs the biggest stages. Scream definitely has his place in Cat1 or you might have missed 2012/2016 era, pretty much nobody had a better aim than him and every player you would ask at this timeline would tell you scream was the best. B1t, (no as much as Jackz tho) doesnt have the AIM consistency of the guy in S tier, depending on the moment like Jackz they can have S tier AIM but will never reach the player above ( my opinion). And shox ? He used to have insane Aim but was also a very smart player and clutcher, with a bit of inconsistency as well, would put him in tier2. Dont forget that tier2 = top10% already Aim WISE, This tierlist could have 10 TIER with all the players
2023-01-24 01:01
6 replies
That is true about xantares, so sad that he is limiting himself in these regional teams and BIG. Scream, you are thinking about first bullet, he was really bad at spraying (for S tier and cat1 standard) if I recall correctly which is why he always went with a1 and tapping. Maybe you could put him there but idk. Yeah b1t fell off this year and has been ping ponging with his stats and consistancy a lot, I can understand that. It's either 5 30 or 40 10, no inbetween for him at the moment. (Exaggerating ofc) I'm biased about shox, my fav player.
2023-01-24 01:04
4 replies
Shox was good at everything, every weapon, pistol rounds, clutcher etc... but if he would have had the crosshair placement, aim and consistency as good as zywoo / niko for exemple he could have been top1 at multiple occasions cause he was very smart. ( didnt happen)
2023-01-24 01:08
1 reply
I like to believe it's due to him not having a good work ethic and always having other priorities. It's like that with every legend in csgo, everyone has outgrinded them and have more hours put into the game despite starting much later. Imagine if shox had the drive m0nesy has his entire career.
2023-01-24 01:13
how is reaching to #1 is limiting yourself?
2023-01-24 05:49
1 reply
no "good" achievements, no eras even he has the skill to achieve greatness but going back to regional scene was a terrible move, and idk why he chose BiG when I'm certain teams like faze wanted him in 2019/20
2023-01-24 20:15
Scream best aim xDd only fanboys say that he wa average overrated pro. 90 percent of his highlights was in faceit or mm games. He very rarely did same in official pro matches bare in mind competition was lower. These days he would probably ould be below average even if he was in his prime. Not saying he was bad but even there is like 20 better aimers then him and Niko taps head 10x better then scream did basically Niko does same in pro games what scream could do only in pugs and scrims or against non pros.
2023-01-24 11:24
#134
RpK | 
France HippzZ
I still don't understand how did shox lose his aim so easily, now he has average level 10 aim it is crazy x)
2023-01-24 11:52
s1mple doesnt have top tier aim, he works with brain not with aim niko is a predicter of movement best raw aim has to be scream monesy zywoo
2023-01-24 00:48
4 replies
I dont agree
2023-01-24 00:52
3 replies
i dont care
2023-01-24 01:35
2 replies
well if you dont care why you write that LOL s1mple have best aim if someone say no , look at flag its ruski what we expect hahaha
2023-01-24 09:01
1 reply
im not ruski, dont try to be smart buddy im spanish
2023-01-24 13:10
scream in his prime was miles ahead of most aimers today. youre putting ax1le, ropz and b1t over him just because of recency bias
2023-01-24 00:52
8 replies
Scream has never master the spray as those guys do, and spray is part of the Aim
2023-01-24 00:53
2 replies
he adjusted his aim after leaving kinguin, and he started incorporating spraying more into his aiming style, you can watch a few of his demos post-kinguin and see that he was transitioning to spraying more than he used to especially in envyus, where he wasnt playing with his usual style as much anymore and focused on being more efficient with his aim
2023-01-24 01:09
1 reply
Yes thats why he is Cat1, already like top2%, he is not as good aim wise as the guys in s tier
2023-01-24 01:05
flusha >>>
2023-01-24 00:54
Debatable
2023-01-24 01:02
Aiming ain't limited to head clicking
2023-01-24 01:04
2 replies
"Pure aiming" is tho. That's what you mean by saying that
2023-01-24 01:25
1 reply
2023-01-24 01:37
zywoo > niko, his missed shots don't usually result a defeat in a lost major finals
2023-01-24 00:55
3 replies
Cus zywoo never get to major final
2023-01-24 01:00
1 reply
anyways, i'm not wrong lol
2023-01-24 01:01
#90
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India shrey29
Just stop being a dumb hater and agree with facts time to time
2023-01-24 05:44
It's not a long list of people who are extraordinary aimers and are relevant at the same time. For me, that list includes- 1) B1t 2) Twistzz 3) Spinx 4) k0nfig Niko's aim is better than s1mple and zywoo cause he is rifle only player and still puts massive numbers. It's not relevant to mention goats and goat contenders obviously because being a good aimer is already a pre-requirement to being in that category
2023-01-24 01:00
3 replies
I rate twistzz over B1t for several reasons related mostly to consistency and adaptability of their aim
2023-01-24 01:04
2 replies
Kind of agree with that.
2023-01-24 03:01
People don’t appreciate Twistzz consistency enough. Super rare that he has an awful game
2023-01-24 18:31
in 1v1: GOD JACKZ
2023-01-24 01:17
I would put xantares on S tier tbh.
2023-01-24 01:19
7 replies
Never shown anything as hight as those in S tier in important toornaments / vs good teams
2023-01-24 01:22
6 replies
Dude ure saying same sh1t to every xantares comment. Educate urself ffs. Because of personel choices he wanted to stay and play with his Turk friends. But I believe he would perform very well as niko if he had team like g2
2023-01-25 09:52
5 replies
You believe but your believe no one gives a fuck
2023-01-25 15:20
4 replies
do u remember refreszh? he was decent in heroic but now in sprout he is dogshit. So u can see the team difference
2023-01-25 20:05
3 replies
I talk about aim /close
2023-01-25 20:26
2 replies
S tier in important toornaments / vs good teams talking about aim yet including good teams :D
2023-01-25 20:29
1 reply
Yes, otherwise i would have included TENZ as well but who gives a fuck about him ?
2023-01-25 20:30
Pure aim as in HS clicking = no one even close to Scream
2023-01-24 01:26
2 replies
Pure AIM = anything related to Aim from spray to HS to tracking to crosshair placement to consistency of the AIM in important toornaments and vs good Tier 1 TEAMS
2023-01-24 01:28
1 reply
No? LMAO
2023-01-24 09:24
KSCERATO and fer
2023-01-24 01:48
1 reply
Sometimes use brain over patriotism.
2023-01-25 17:20
zywoo is in a league of his own imo, no one is as consistent as he is with pistols and rifles. He just has a different level of finesse.
2023-01-24 01:49
quite accurate! gj.
2023-01-24 02:00
#70
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Chile 1cristiaan
EliGE S+
2023-01-24 02:03
1 reply
sensitivity 696969
2023-01-24 03:32
Honestly.. even tho XANTARES doesn't have success with teams or ever makes it top20 hltv.. I still think he has the best aim & crosshair placement EVER, I've spent countless hours comparing & analyzing raw aim/xhair placement in the best players, even compared to ScreaM in his prime.. XANTARES without a doubt is a freak of nature, it's very similar to niko in a sense where they fixate on xhair placement well, but XANTARES is amplified to another level, his 180s are robotic & accurate.. the man is a monster... It's ashame hes in dogshit teams & didn't improve his english earlier to open doors to better teams.. He's now coasting with EF to make some $$ and relax.. Wasted player..
2023-01-24 02:04
6 replies
i agree, but he never shown his pick on important toornaments and vs the best teams, something that scream did way more often and during way more time
2023-01-24 02:10
2 replies
Nice england bro, muted.
2023-01-24 04:27
1 reply
Cancer
2023-01-24 06:05
+1
2023-01-24 13:57
XANTARES fully screwed himself with the E.F. project tbh
2023-01-25 03:30
1 reply
Yep, He just cares about making money while being able to live in turkey, if he really wanted to be a top level player he will give up on the tr scene. He had the right idea trying BIG at the time but sadly BIG aint much... and back then his english was worse than now, I think if he REALLY wanted he could of been in a team like faze.
2023-01-25 06:17
Twistzz
2023-01-24 03:03
sunny "the firepower" kemppi should be SSS-tier
2023-01-24 03:12
Kscerato and k0nfig Also fer when he cares
2023-01-24 03:24
#78
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France Kweyy
I have the best aim
2023-01-24 03:25
dycha should be in the conversation
2023-01-24 03:29
Pure mechanical skills, I’d include xantares on S tier for sure. When it comes down to xhair placement I cant name another person besides Niko & xantares.
2023-01-24 03:57
1 reply
#82
kennyS | 
Sri Lanka Emu1
+1
2023-01-24 04:23
#84
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Canada Roshambo
ELiGE should be on there somewhere. At his peak, arguably the best spray control in the history of the game. Also insane pure aimer too, if you've seen his aim labs grid shot. I'd put him next to YEKINDAR.
2023-01-24 04:49
2 replies
If it's about spray control then S1mple brehze or Ethan is as good or better at it.
2023-01-24 11:30
1 reply
#144
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Canada Roshambo
IN a game like CSGO, i think spray control should be a PART of the conservation when it comes to aiming mechanics. Also, no they aren't tf lol. s1mple is just that guy, so u can make a case for just about anything. Brehze and Ethan were both insanely skilled players back in 2019 mostly cuz of their aim, but I don't think their sprays were close to EliGE. Brehze could be the pure aimers list to though imho.
2023-01-24 16:10
Perfecto when he is the silent killer and frags 30 and you don't realize it until after map 2
2023-01-24 05:06
#86
roeJ | 
Honduras Braha
S TIer: roej
2023-01-24 05:14
#87
JW | 
Sweden gNeJS
A bit biased but f0rest aim is fkn crispy
2023-01-24 05:16
1 reply
f0rest is the original aim god/NiKo of the CS franchise
2023-01-25 03:31
twistzz above zywoo and s1mple
2023-01-24 05:17
1 reply
No
2023-01-24 06:06
#89
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Denmark imper1o
REZ not being anywhere on this list is insane to me
2023-01-24 05:21
2 replies
Too inconsistent. One game can be robotic like a tier aim next like silver bot and go 2-12 score and die without even firing a shot in round.
2023-01-24 11:32
1 reply
#143
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Denmark imper1o
I get what you're saying. The same goes for someone like k0nfig too - but most people still hold him pretty high in the "aimers"-debate
2023-01-24 15:45
Shox? He has to be on S. He had the best aim in his prime.
2023-01-24 05:49
to this day still noone has beat scream in pure aim. just go check top hs% players, he's still top 1 to this day
2023-01-24 05:57
2 replies
if you played like scream nowadays ud get like 15 avg so its kinda unfair to compare it that way:D
2023-01-24 11:32
1 reply
Yes ofc, but if you go into dm he would still be the best aimer even today. He's not a good player gamesense wise (compared to other pros ofc), but aim wise scream is the goat
2023-01-24 13:53
Scream had the best pure aim
2023-01-24 07:59
S: me A: Zypoo, Ch0ko, s0mple B-Z: rest
2023-01-24 08:09
#105
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New Zealand Melting
only one i'd really disagree with is stavn he plays really well positionally but I dont think hes a peak aimer and his hs% is relatively low
2023-01-24 08:28
1 reply
Wrong hes aim is top level and he can get robotic shots just that his positioning helps him be more consistent.
2023-01-24 11:35
nonono you are wrong my frfriend, look at this refrezh >>> everyone elese
2023-01-24 08:55
XANTARES below NiKo is a joke
2023-01-24 09:02
SCREAM TWISTZ XANTARES S tier dont care about the rest.
2023-01-24 09:14
1 reply
Imagine putting XANTARES, the best aimer ever, in A-tier only
2023-01-24 11:22
#114
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North America soduk_db
Some of the best naturally gifted aimers to ever play IMO. Kevin "aZn" Wang youtube.com/watch?v=fItx6EI-ljE youtube.com/watch?v=6T5p0X_hej8 Jordan "n0thing" Gilbert youtube.com/watch?v=iVZkwmYcLYI youtube.com/watch?v=W8A1q7ZAzp8 youtube.com/watch?v=XhdtdLj3pyU youtube.com/watch?v=gTwKXEOhN_U Paul "pauLy" Guerboyan youtube.com/watch?v=Xf-XkmwD_Dg&t=32s youtube.com/watch?v=FmWGYwOMAAE youtube.com/watch?v=QZpyf7SbDds Braxton "swag" Pierce youtube.com/watch?v=gIgDoq7Dx-g youtube.com/watch?v=f82_7QvzK80 youtube.com/watch?v=0STBTMnl8Eg Michael "method" So youtube.com/watch?v=34JQNZOLNUo youtube.com/watch?v=cb_G3w2Tvyk youtube.com/watch?v=0ZC74x6-PGg Griffin "shaGuar" Benger youtube.com/watch?v=KoMTHCLhJp8 youtube.com/watch?v=lh8aYOUsMEY youtube.com/watch?v=LZJMuoScems Daniel "fRoD" Montaner youtube.com/watch?v=MSF06wct5gs youtube.com/watch?v=XCN4HXZNU7M Kyle "minikerr" Kerr youtube.com/watch?v=WsHOijIaYQw youtube.com/watch?v=uqSYDF_0cDk youtube.com/watch?v=kRXnL7mcfsk youtube.com/watch?v=AiPW5GQVvss Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund youtube.com/watch?v=2FxXCHdaOVE youtube.com/watch?v=k4fm3FdEIb4 youtube.com/watch?v=JItjtrzOZXE youtube.com/watch?v=qpXP1-Z4m-M Frej "kHRYSTAL" Sjostrom youtube.com/watch?v=90foXgjBqHk youtube.com/watch?v=Ja1BK0j9h7U Kristoffer "Tentpole" Nordlund youtube.com/watch?v=fkuC9rV9OwU youtube.com/watch?v=bLUczFvlNYM Michael "ahl" Korduner youtube.com/watch?v=ZjmlkBTPrWM&t=27s youtube.com/watch?v=QLOHzQnlyN0 Abdisamad "SpawN" Mohamed youtube.com/watch?v=84CXsP6r85Y youtube.com/watch?v=ANvriVJ2HhU youtube.com/watch?v=SZ9gRW5o7TU youtube.com/watch?v=bhgwxYtHUBw youtube.com/watch?v=MUsjTtsUdkY Harley "dsn" Orwall youtube.com/watch?v=L_T1yFgh6rc youtube.com/watch?v=eunetHBOmo8 Raphael "cogu" Camargo youtube.com/watch?v=diHiFuPUQBo youtube.com/watch?v=1MOOOcOlr7Y Filip "NEO" Kubski youtube.com/watch?v=BpW84oGje3g youtube.com/watch?v=ChqEuJInLr0 youtube.com/watch?v=Eijo4J2fXe8 youtube.com/watch?v=27TXXTl7YGs Christer "fisker" Eriksso youtube.com/watch?v=Ih_5ZkNdrjc youtube.com/watch?v=063lQw4Ts0g Mickael "mSx" Cassisi youtube.com/watch?v=_ALUVB31WBw youtube.com/watch?v=KyxmL2chGzA youtube.com/watch?v=Zo89Jt9LpMY Ola "elemeNt" Moum youtube.com/watch?v=IjjdTrbDaZ8 youtube.com/watch?v=7ZwkeDvzzHQ youtube.com/watch?v=TnqQ7edof74 Jonas "Johnny R." Bollack youtube.com/watch?v=8IamGfljRrc youtube.com/watch?v=d5CtlckC_uk Yehor "markeloff" Markelov youtube.com/watch?v=kIETfdsl2YE youtube.com/watch?v=EOl3NOX3BVU youtube.com/watch?v=NHe12xWFTac Dennis "walle" Wallenberg youtube.com/watch?v=RZ1xUTtWoFw youtube.com/watch?v=Xrji5SXyDnc
2023-01-24 09:55
Shroud better than all of these in terms of raw aim But he's shit in every other aspect so w/e
2023-01-24 11:08
1 reply
shroud so overrated i cant believe it:D
2023-01-24 11:31
I have the best aim
2023-01-24 11:20
Maj3r
2023-01-24 11:23
2023-01-24 11:23
nowadays i think it's Twistzz
2023-01-24 11:24
XANTARES, lol
2023-01-24 11:24
how do you even define raw aim? Because in every aim duel in cs movement, positioning, timing, predicting ur opponents movement etc is important. Even on 1v1 map. Or do you mean how fast someone can get 100 kills on aimbotz?
2023-01-24 11:30
XANTARES is notorious known for his aim, ofc he is S-tier no doubt - here I see Xantares, Twistzz and b1t
2023-01-24 11:43
Me after 4 beers
2023-01-24 11:54
#136
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Europe MaHoTei
screaM is S tier for sure
2023-01-24 11:57
2 replies
Just sucks at everything else
2023-01-24 18:53
1 reply
#154
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Europe MaHoTei
well yes but aim wise the guy is above everyone and that is fact HE IS legit aimbot
2023-01-24 21:24
cat say meow
2023-01-24 13:59
#148
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Ukraine d3adLY
ZYWOO AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAH LMAO ofc its Hoxje
2023-01-24 18:34
16 replies
bro zywoo has insane aim. could easily be top 3 player with just rifles alone
2023-01-25 03:43
15 replies
#183
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Ukraine d3adLY
no, he can play "good" only with awp, rifle isnt his forte his aim isnt good
2023-01-25 11:41
14 replies
Zywoo is way better with a rifle than with an awp
2023-01-25 15:23
13 replies
#191
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Ukraine d3adLY
lmao, so why he is awp in vitality?
2023-01-25 17:15
12 replies
because nobody else can play it as good as him, and you always need an awper in ct side in the meta, plays mostly full AK on t side tho, thats why he has the lowest AWP usage % from all tier1 awpers
2023-01-25 17:18
11 replies
#194
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Ukraine d3adLY
lol what, vitality could take maka, hades, mantu, headtrick for awp if zywoo was better with rifle
2023-01-25 18:26
10 replies
make ? tier 2 player xD hades ? do you even watch CS kek ? mantu kicked from OG for an awper not even as good as zywoo ahah, headtrick ? sure lets bet for a 18 years old no name academic russian player. To replace who in vitality ? 4 times major winner ? spinx top10 rifle ? nt
2023-01-25 18:30
4 replies
#198
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Ukraine d3adLY
russian player XD who cares about 4 major winner if it was 4 years ago spinx was top 10 rifle before vitality, now he plays for zywoo and cant have good stats
2023-01-25 19:05
3 replies
2023-01-25 19:11
2 replies
#205
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Ukraine d3adLY
1 event lmao, now look at his stats for ence in 2022 and his stats for vitality in 2022
2023-01-25 19:18
1 reply
he is not consistent and had to adapt to new role in vitality yes, now that he is adapted he is good again; simple as that
2023-01-25 19:22
look, he got a 4K deagle vs heroic 2mn ago by stealing kills from his team8 and by having average aim !! twitter.com/TeamVitality/status/16183068..
2023-01-25 19:04
4 replies
#199
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Ukraine d3adLY
"zywoo doesnt bait his teammates"
2023-01-25 19:06
3 replies
yes it was full bait, any other average player would have got that 4k !!, s1mple would even have 5K !!
2023-01-25 19:10
2 replies
#204
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Ukraine d3adLY
worst t1 player of all time does this youtube.com/watch?v=XrnmdhKgne8
2023-01-25 19:17
1 reply
you have 50mn highlights of zywoo doing this every year, only s1mple has as long higjlights every year, no one else
2023-01-25 19:23
Kyojin no debate
2023-01-24 18:50
BlameF? Love him or hate him, he has insane aim
2023-01-24 18:54
people still sleeping on rain
2023-01-24 22:35
XANTARES is the best aimer ever. pley.gg/news/device-before-big-xantares-..
2023-01-24 22:50
ZywOo is obviously the best aimer, XANTARES and NiKo are close though
2023-01-24 23:10
#165
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Finland HARD4ENCE
How do you even fucking measure this? Like just based on first bullet accuracy/hs %? Every pro in tier 1 and even tier 2 has an insane aim. Differences rarely come from that factor alone but more from decision making/confidence.
2023-01-24 23:13
Westmelon
2023-01-24 23:22
Twistzz best aimer
2023-01-25 03:40
worst thread I've ever seen congratulations
2023-01-25 03:42
#178
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United States Phanji
hs% goes Scream, b1t, twistzz other wise it’s just your pick as to who you think is best
2023-01-25 06:13
#179
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Israel michnass
Scream #1
2023-01-25 06:14
No F0rest on the list ?
2023-01-25 06:19
rain????
2023-01-25 11:50
dogs > cats
2023-01-25 11:51
#187
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Netherlands arTvamp
xantares is camel tier for sure
2023-01-25 12:28
#188
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Australia nsmai
Rpk, f0rest, rain
2023-01-25 12:32
Alpacachino best pure aim, 100% acc on wall behind enemy
2023-01-25 18:31
Obviously it's Tenz did you see how high he scored on the betway csgo challenge?
2023-01-25 19:11
niko, end of thread
2023-01-25 19:11
TenZ 🥶🥶
2023-01-25 19:19
XANTARES,Niko and probably ZywOo in catS for sure
2023-01-25 19:30
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