It gonna happen sooner ou later, but where he will go? Maybe he will join CoL or EG black lmao now they put Wiz in the main roster Osee easily could fit in there (they got GOAT junior so idk). I don't see him going to any EU team, so there is two options here and maybe he will play at nouns or something like that.
Not really. He gets paid megabucks to do something a CIS AWPer getting paid 2k/month could do better. He's pretty much coasting off the fact that he's from the USA and thats it. If anything it's not harsh enough
Lol wtf is this strawman?
I didn't say my region is better than yours (altho we had more UK players in the playoffs of the last major than NA did 8) )
All I'm saying is that NA cs isn't strat heavy and lacking good utility usage. NA pugs are significantly easier than EU pugs. This is a fact. That's all I've said, moron.
ESEA seasons in NA look like shitty level 8 pugs from EU. I could probably make main or advance easily there tbh.
UK CS is let down by the fact that we don't have the best fraggers/mentality when it comes to CS and it seems the same thing is happening to NA lol.
Nice reading comprehension tho
Your country isn't a region. Europe is a great region. Which makes the fact that the UK has never produced a single top 20 player in this game all the more amazing. I mean Germany has produced a top 20 player you'd think at one point some dumb bonger would have luck boxed his way into it.
But hey just wait til TL figures out what's up and gives you a chance right.
Lol I would do better than oSee. I would quite literally hit these sitters he has no excuse for missing.
Either way I know my region is dogshit. And yes the UK is a "region". I know NA is dumb when it comes to geography but damn. Also I don't need to be from a country with a good scene to acknowledge that your scene has a problem with tactical depth and ingame IQ, which is why oSee and Liquid are struggling and why I presume you're getting rly triggered about it because you guys are hella insecure about it
Lol ofc I would. I average about 30 kills/game and 1.06kpr at 2.5k elo in EU with 25% entry attempts on T side. I've been hackusated by OG's assistant coach, and I carry over my performance into high elo games (3-4k elo) purely because of my ingame IQ and aim. The only reason I'm low elo is because I play faceit with my friend(who has 1 arm, and guys from school)
At most I would need to get about 18kills per game to equal the same amount of impact oSee has and just die less. I could probably do it with just rifle. If I was getting paid 20k/month best know I would grind the game 10hrs/day and surpass him easily if I haven't already. Shit's not hard it's just a game.
Yeah dude I was averaging 1.5 kpr at 4.5k elo and Twistzz told me to stop hacking or he wouldn't kiss me at the next HLTV after party.
I'm only low elo because I play with my cousin who's got an overbite and down syndrome otherwise Na'vi would replace Electronic with me and pay me 35k.
I agree with you about the pug situation but u gotta be trolling if u dont know the definition of a region.. your region just means the group of countries/territories that are close enough to each other to play with each other online, it's that simple
are you talking PUG games or TL? Yeah, you don't see much coordinated attacks in PUG in NA (i've never played a pug anywhere else so I can't speak for how things work elsewhere) but if you're talking TL - all they do is play the best teams in the world so obviously your argument wouldn't apply there.
osee is bad in t1 ATM but dude, he would obviously farm so hard in main it's not even funny, I'm talking 1.60 ratings every game, I don't think you realise the skill gap between "semi pros", semi pros, bad pros, and good pros
Americans #1 biase, expected . They were saying Pulisic is the best player in the world, now trying to make 0.9 rating awper look good and defend him
From this moment i will never read any comment from USA flag, im done. Bruh go watch NBA, Lebron or some shit. You dont know nothing about CS if you think that coach daps is the problem, when oSee fragging less than nitr0
So true. Every time I see someone defending Osee, it's usually an American with no clue on how the game is played because they say "he isnt being setup" which shouldn't hinder him from hitting shots even a level 5 could hit
He's just high-sens merchant, its easy to make trick shots with awp with sens like s1mple or m0nesy
Flickshots against NA tier3 made Osee look like a s1mple type of player, now Liquid realised that he cant hit ez shots
in fact even slow awper like acoR or oscar would be better than ouhhsee.
I don't even mind the high-sens merchant thing. He's just got shit positioning as an AWPer. It's not just me who sees this too. A few analysts spotted it after I did. Once he got into tier 1, where spacing is a lot better, he just gets traded after 1 kill (assuming he doesnt whiff the first shot due to the other player's preaim).
I think most of the best players in the world have the sense where they feel "vulnerable" when they're exposed to more than 1 angle but with Osee it's not like that. It genuinely looks like he has no idea what hes doing
No way you actually think you can throw a level 8 faceit player into Team Liquid and they are going to hit more shots. Just no way anyone on this forum that follow professional CS and plays the game is this dumb.
Osee literally skull fucks tier 2 European players btw. I've read a lot of really stupid takes today but you really take the cake. My god. Color me shocked it's a random bonger that thinks he can replace a pro in a tier 1 team that's maintained a positive rating for over a year.
Maybe EU level 8 could do it. Not NA level 8 tho :)))
Also muh "positive rating" like bruh he has a 1.05 or some shit as an AWPer like lmfao that's the same as a rifler having a .95 rating or less tbh
+1 it's a bit different to play against ZywOo, s1mple, m0NESY and broky all backed by top 20 riflers than fighting against tier 2-3, already guys like syrsoN as sick awper himself is like "easy match" for Liquid.
Liquid are focusing more on their riflers but this is taking a toll on oSee. They need to rework their system a bit so they can set oSee up more or at least make him more aggressive. Elige and Yekindar should dial down their aggressiveness a bit so oSee can show what he can do and get some aggressive picks. This could massively make Liquid a better team if they can activate oSee.
Try to understand CS instead of blindly using stats. Osee is supportive AWPer and 2nd caller in Liquid. Reason their Riflers (NAF, Elige and Yekindar) get those good stats is Osee stepping back. Another AWPer wouldnt get better ratings in their system.
Osee is 2nd caller lmao. Nitro and yekindar make the calls in liquid, second even being a supportive awper he is not handle his job so well, because in his whole life he never did such a role. It's better to hire someone that do that role than make him do it.
Idk. oSee is in a strange place. He's probably not good enough for Liquid, but he's too good for most other NA teams. He'd be a good fit for CoL or EG Main, but idk if they'd replace hallzerk/wiz. oSee is definitely better than those guys, but hallzerk has still been performing decently and wiz is still super new
osee is honestly way overhated. liquid do not have room for a superstar awper, and osee has been decently consistent in terms of showing up when needed. last year was also his rookie t1 year, i cant imagine liquid have a thought of dropping him until atleast 2024
Most of them are just kids with extreme mood swings, it is evident in osees playing style , he's been asked to just stay behind, while elige , yeki, goes hunting, he should be given degster roles and watch the guy fly
liquid arent just going to kick the best NA awper. people tend to forget that liquid never build their team around an awper, the core of the team is always the star riflers. osee isnt playing at a kickworthy level given his circumstance but that doesn't mean he shouldnt improve