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Brazil Criminalcord 
It gonna happen sooner ou later, but where he will go? Maybe he will join CoL or EG black lmao now they put Wiz in the main roster Osee easily could fit in there (they got GOAT junior so idk). I don't see him going to any EU team, so there is two options here and maybe he will play at nouns or something like that.
2023-01-24 23:42
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He will probably not go to CoL or EG black. I would say he's not even worth ESEA Main level tbh
2023-01-24 23:43
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Damn that quite harsh
2023-01-24 23:44
3 replies
Not really. He gets paid megabucks to do something a CIS AWPer getting paid 2k/month could do better. He's pretty much coasting off the fact that he's from the USA and thats it. If anything it's not harsh enough
2023-01-24 23:45
2 replies
Like he can really good at tier 2 and 3 that was his whole deal in extra salt. But yeah easily a CIS awper could do a better job.
2023-01-24 23:52
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pretty much farming stats vs the same NA teams
2023-01-24 23:53
He would surely shine in lower levels, gotta keep in mind that he basically only plays against the best of the best and not some t2-3 competition
2023-01-24 23:47
4 replies
maybe in NA where they dont use flashes/smokes well
2023-01-24 23:50
3 replies
in NA he would have 2.0 rating
2023-01-24 23:55
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#140
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Finland wormi
agreed, people think he is suddenly worse, but he is better than ever, just playing against top tier teams all the time now instead of some esea pugs
2023-01-25 13:31
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And gis confidence is propably much lower than when playing against some lower tier teams. Mistakes just get punished so much more at the highest Levels
2023-01-25 16:23
0/8
2023-01-24 23:49
45 replies
flag in the wise words of smooya "NA just doesnt flash" come to EU and try that shit i dare him
2023-01-24 23:50
44 replies
Bro thinks people are scared of UK lol. dead scene even more than NA.
2023-01-24 23:51
41 replies
Don't care. We play vs Europeans. You play vs other NA players. Everytime I watch an NA pug, shit looks so easy
2023-01-24 23:52
40 replies
You've literally never produced a single good CS pro. You've had a few guys who were good for like a year. You just have no room to talk shit to any region. The UK may as well be Asia.
2023-01-25 02:21
28 replies
Lol wtf is this strawman? I didn't say my region is better than yours (altho we had more UK players in the playoffs of the last major than NA did 8) ) All I'm saying is that NA cs isn't strat heavy and lacking good utility usage. NA pugs are significantly easier than EU pugs. This is a fact. That's all I've said, moron. ESEA seasons in NA look like shitty level 8 pugs from EU. I could probably make main or advance easily there tbh. UK CS is let down by the fact that we don't have the best fraggers/mentality when it comes to CS and it seems the same thing is happening to NA lol. Nice reading comprehension tho
2023-01-25 02:40
26 replies
Your country isn't a region. Europe is a great region. Which makes the fact that the UK has never produced a single top 20 player in this game all the more amazing. I mean Germany has produced a top 20 player you'd think at one point some dumb bonger would have luck boxed his way into it. But hey just wait til TL figures out what's up and gives you a chance right.
2023-01-25 02:46
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Lol I would do better than oSee. I would quite literally hit these sitters he has no excuse for missing. Either way I know my region is dogshit. And yes the UK is a "region". I know NA is dumb when it comes to geography but damn. Also I don't need to be from a country with a good scene to acknowledge that your scene has a problem with tactical depth and ingame IQ, which is why oSee and Liquid are struggling and why I presume you're getting rly triggered about it because you guys are hella insecure about it
2023-01-25 02:49
16 replies
Yes you would do better then the guy who stomped tier 2 in Europe and NA for all of 2021. Jesus
2023-01-25 02:52
11 replies
Lol ofc I would. I average about 30 kills/game and 1.06kpr at 2.5k elo in EU with 25% entry attempts on T side. I've been hackusated by OG's assistant coach, and I carry over my performance into high elo games (3-4k elo) purely because of my ingame IQ and aim. The only reason I'm low elo is because I play faceit with my friend(who has 1 arm, and guys from school) At most I would need to get about 18kills per game to equal the same amount of impact oSee has and just die less. I could probably do it with just rifle. If I was getting paid 20k/month best know I would grind the game 10hrs/day and surpass him easily if I haven't already. Shit's not hard it's just a game.
2023-01-25 03:01
10 replies
Yeah dude I was averaging 1.5 kpr at 4.5k elo and Twistzz told me to stop hacking or he wouldn't kiss me at the next HLTV after party. I'm only low elo because I play with my cousin who's got an overbite and down syndrome otherwise Na'vi would replace Electronic with me and pay me 35k.
2023-01-25 03:04
7 replies
You think im lying thats cute
2023-01-25 03:05
6 replies
It doesn't matter if it's true. You couldn't replace the AWPer on Endpoint.
2023-01-25 03:06
5 replies
that's because MHL >> osee ofc bro
2023-01-25 03:06
are you even acknowledging his points
2023-01-25 08:52
3 replies
lmao u know youve lost when someone from CIS backs a brit
2023-01-25 11:05
well he is "na_propagandist" I'm not expecting coherent reading skills and debate from the guy
2023-01-25 12:12
+1 he completely ignored his main arguments lmao
2023-01-25 12:22
#137
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Brazil Anarchybr
That’s a fucking great pasta, I’m ngl
2023-01-25 13:22
1 reply
lmao thanks
2023-01-25 13:25
I agree with you about the pug situation but u gotta be trolling if u dont know the definition of a region.. your region just means the group of countries/territories that are close enough to each other to play with each other online, it's that simple
2023-01-25 03:13
3 replies
shh dont let them know bro
2023-01-25 03:18
2 replies
Oh yeah guyz I was just trolling, lul. You believe everything you wrote. You are just embarrassed now.
2023-01-25 03:23
1 reply
nah man i wasn't trolling trust me bro
2023-01-25 03:38
Crazy how during frag the UK guys lost to advanced level players and you think you can be in advanced is wild
2023-01-25 03:34
7 replies
Lol yes I would shit on some of these fragadelphia players I've scrimmed with the UK's best players and done well
2023-01-25 03:40
6 replies
If you’re this good maybe try going pro! You seem like a very good player if you’re as good as player worse than Osee
2023-01-25 04:10
5 replies
bruh im going clothes shopping hold on
2023-01-25 04:13
4 replies
isn't it like 3am in UK?
2023-01-25 04:16
3 replies
and?
2023-01-25 04:17
depop.com/products/shiej-iso-isabel-mara.. aight bro honest thoughts would this suit me?
2023-01-25 04:23
1 reply
for sure
2023-01-25 04:26
Ever heard of Mangiacapra?
2023-01-25 03:24
visible copium
2023-01-25 02:31
10 replies
How many NA players in last major playoffs again?
2023-01-25 02:41
9 replies
look, you're coping again. Maybe log out for a bit and let the weight of your actions really sink in
2023-01-25 02:35
3 replies
oh my god dude ure right lol
2023-01-25 02:35
2 replies
good luck soldier. Ill be here when u get back
2023-01-25 02:35
1 reply
ok
2023-01-25 02:36
When has a brit ever made playoffs for anything lol
2023-01-25 02:40
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Ohh fair lol. Mezii is cracked and deserves better than fnc imo. Was he the first brit in a major playoff tho? I can't remember any others.
2023-01-25 02:46
2 replies
smooya was in one with BIG, ALEX too with Vitality and I think dephh with col
2023-01-25 02:50
1 reply
save ALEX lmao
2023-01-25 11:07
#22
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United States byucatch22
are you talking PUG games or TL? Yeah, you don't see much coordinated attacks in PUG in NA (i've never played a pug anywhere else so I can't speak for how things work elsewhere) but if you're talking TL - all they do is play the best teams in the world so obviously your argument wouldn't apply there.
2023-01-25 00:10
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Im talking about ESEA seasons in NA
2023-01-25 00:11
tbf EG can't get much worse if they sign the entirety of the NA region :> (overall performance, not recent games as they're very much outliers)
2023-01-25 00:52
0/8
2023-01-25 01:07
osee is bad in t1 ATM but dude, he would obviously farm so hard in main it's not even funny, I'm talking 1.60 ratings every game, I don't think you realise the skill gap between "semi pros", semi pros, bad pros, and good pros
2023-01-25 12:10
oSee is much better than most people think
2023-01-25 13:29
floppy and osee reunification :o
2023-01-24 23:44
1 reply
pog
2023-01-24 23:54
Maybe liquid tries using him in the right way for once. Start to question if a new coach is needed instead of awper
2023-01-24 23:44
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Idk the whole team is working. Like Osee doesn't need to be a Top Fragger but he doing a really bad job, it's more a individual probably than a team problem.
2023-01-24 23:49
Americans #1 biase, expected . They were saying Pulisic is the best player in the world, now trying to make 0.9 rating awper look good and defend him From this moment i will never read any comment from USA flag, im done. Bruh go watch NBA, Lebron or some shit. You dont know nothing about CS if you think that coach daps is the problem, when oSee fragging less than nitr0
2023-01-24 23:54
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So true. Every time I see someone defending Osee, it's usually an American with no clue on how the game is played because they say "he isnt being setup" which shouldn't hinder him from hitting shots even a level 5 could hit
2023-01-24 23:54
13 replies
Imagine if oSee was born in Germany or something. Bro would be benched after first map XD
2023-01-24 23:55
12 replies
I could probably replace osee ngl. A level 8 would be more consistent at hitting these ez shots. He is too used to playing in NA where flashes arent used as efficiently as in EU
2023-01-24 23:56
11 replies
He's just high-sens merchant, its easy to make trick shots with awp with sens like s1mple or m0nesy Flickshots against NA tier3 made Osee look like a s1mple type of player, now Liquid realised that he cant hit ez shots in fact even slow awper like acoR or oscar would be better than ouhhsee.
2023-01-25 00:01
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I don't even mind the high-sens merchant thing. He's just got shit positioning as an AWPer. It's not just me who sees this too. A few analysts spotted it after I did. Once he got into tier 1, where spacing is a lot better, he just gets traded after 1 kill (assuming he doesnt whiff the first shot due to the other player's preaim). I think most of the best players in the world have the sense where they feel "vulnerable" when they're exposed to more than 1 angle but with Osee it's not like that. It genuinely looks like he has no idea what hes doing
2023-01-25 03:22
#24
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United States Topher
LMAOOOOOOOOO
2023-01-25 00:47
2 replies
just facts
2023-01-25 01:59
i know right? what a joke
2023-01-25 02:32
the pro cs must be pretty easy if a level 8 would get better rating than osee
2023-01-25 01:15
2 replies
Or osee is just that bad
2023-01-25 02:42
1 reply
but pros let osee have above 0.9 rating, so all pros tl play must be bad
2023-01-25 06:52
No way you actually think you can throw a level 8 faceit player into Team Liquid and they are going to hit more shots. Just no way anyone on this forum that follow professional CS and plays the game is this dumb. Osee literally skull fucks tier 2 European players btw. I've read a lot of really stupid takes today but you really take the cake. My god. Color me shocked it's a random bonger that thinks he can replace a pro in a tier 1 team that's maintained a positive rating for over a year. hltv.org/stats?startDate=2021-01-01&endD..
2023-01-25 02:33
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"hyperbole" Maybe EU level 8 could do it. Not NA level 8 tho :))) Also muh "positive rating" like bruh he has a 1.05 or some shit as an AWPer like lmfao that's the same as a rifler having a .95 rating or less tbh
2023-01-25 03:04
#141
ropz | 
Finland wormi
+1 it's a bit different to play against ZywOo, s1mple, m0NESY and broky all backed by top 20 riflers than fighting against tier 2-3, already guys like syrsoN as sick awper himself is like "easy match" for Liquid.
2023-01-25 13:35
#26
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United States spectre493
Liquid are focusing more on their riflers but this is taking a toll on oSee. They need to rework their system a bit so they can set oSee up more or at least make him more aggressive. Elige and Yekindar should dial down their aggressiveness a bit so oSee can show what he can do and get some aggressive picks. This could massively make Liquid a better team if they can activate oSee.
2023-01-25 01:06
#28
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Germany l3oNmC
Try to understand CS instead of blindly using stats. Osee is supportive AWPer and 2nd caller in Liquid. Reason their Riflers (NAF, Elige and Yekindar) get those good stats is Osee stepping back. Another AWPer wouldnt get better ratings in their system.
2023-01-25 01:12
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Osee is 2nd caller lmao. Nitro and yekindar make the calls in liquid, second even being a supportive awper he is not handle his job so well, because in his whole life he never did such a role. It's better to hire someone that do that role than make him do it.
2023-01-25 02:06
If you bothered to watch the games you would see how badly he's playing, the misses are out of control.
2023-01-25 02:15
2 replies
he thinks that osee is a second caller lmao.
2023-01-25 02:19
1 reply
Probably trolling.
2023-01-25 02:24
OSee aint 2nd caller. He isn't even 3rd caller. In terms of calling, it surely goes: IGL: nitr0 2nd: yeki 3rd: ELiGe 4th: naf/oSee
2023-01-25 03:34
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#136
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Germany l3oNmC
There is no such thing a 3rd or 4th caller. They are not callers they are the other players.
2023-01-25 13:19
Idk. oSee is in a strange place. He's probably not good enough for Liquid, but he's too good for most other NA teams. He'd be a good fit for CoL or EG Main, but idk if they'd replace hallzerk/wiz. oSee is definitely better than those guys, but hallzerk has still been performing decently and wiz is still super new
2023-01-25 02:44
6 replies
It's weird his situation. But i believe he could go to Nouns and it will help them to get to a major but who knows.
2023-01-25 03:14
1 reply
I think -cJ +oSee and make stamina go back to dedicated igl/rifle could be strong, but imo oSee is too goood for an uncontracted team like Nouns (so is cynic tbf)
2023-01-25 03:30
oshit is not better than hallzerk
2023-01-25 07:02
#117
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North America K1nGoldY
Hallzerk is getting shittier day by day 6 kills on two different games
2023-01-25 08:23
2 replies
I would be down for an ES reunion tbh
2023-01-25 08:28
1 reply
#120
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North America K1nGoldY
Who knows OSEE find his form back in the ES system that JT implemented +they got Grim now it should work, i say if Liquid is not able to find role solutions, OSee should just Go to COL with love
2023-01-25 08:32
osee is honestly way overhated. liquid do not have room for a superstar awper, and osee has been decently consistent in terms of showing up when needed. last year was also his rookie t1 year, i cant imagine liquid have a thought of dropping him until atleast 2024
2023-01-25 03:41
3 replies
.99 rated awper lmfaoooo
2023-01-25 03:57
1 reply
5k gun .99 rating LEL
2023-01-25 03:58
everything checks out
2023-01-25 09:17
#102
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Argentina cheapdeed
liquid fucked they gotta go bald now!! -naf -elige -nitr0 and start from 0 god damn
2023-01-25 04:00
2 replies
bald dream team: f0rest krimz MSL ELiGe cooper Coach: xtqzz
2023-01-25 04:16
1 reply
#108
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Argentina cheapdeed
already ten times better than current liquid!!!!!!!!
2023-01-25 04:20
How about get device, Astralis is wasting him
2023-01-25 04:37
#114
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
3 months ago people making oSee top10 threads all of a sudden its oSee isnt good enough for t3 OK
2023-01-25 07:04
4 replies
hltv is usually on both of the extreme end of things
2023-01-25 07:08
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#116
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Yeah thats why I dont use forums much anymore.
2023-01-25 07:46
#118
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North America K1nGoldY
Most of them are just kids with extreme mood swings, it is evident in osees playing style , he's been asked to just stay behind, while elige , yeki, goes hunting, he should be given degster roles and watch the guy fly
2023-01-25 08:27
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#126
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Yeah but people dont understand what roles are just stats
2023-01-25 11:01
liquid arent just going to kick the best NA awper. people tend to forget that liquid never build their team around an awper, the core of the team is always the star riflers. osee isnt playing at a kickworthy level given his circumstance but that doesn't mean he shouldnt improve
2023-01-25 08:43
Osee haters 0/8
2023-01-25 08:44
#124
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Finland Sith_Spit
tyloo could be good
2023-01-25 09:02
#129
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Israel michnass
Deko
2023-01-25 12:03
liquid needs to do only one thing: -oSee +Nifty
2023-01-25 12:28
bring back junior
2023-01-25 12:54
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