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Worst rank 1 team
Europe Genius_of_vast_intellect 
So since becoming the rank 1 team (by winning a qualifier event) Herlowic have crashed out of Blast finals in last place, lost a BO3 to EG and failed to win their group at Blast Spring. Are they the worst team ever to be ranked top 1?
2023-01-25 22:52
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#1
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Germany Germen
They are not, no
2023-01-25 22:53
#2
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United Kingdom mbizzle
yes
2023-01-25 22:53
1 reply
+1
2023-01-26 11:03
nt braken
2023-01-25 22:53
EG back in the day was the worst #1
2023-01-25 22:53
23 replies
+1
2023-01-25 22:55
That EG team would have demolished this Heroic team 💀
2023-01-25 23:10
12 replies
what? that eg team got to the number 1 spot because na hosted their events before the ranking release and EU after. 2020 was an interesting year tbh. EG got to number 1 by destroying geng and dying cloud9
2023-01-26 00:19
11 replies
They abused the krieg hard especially brehze now hes nowhere to be found lol
2023-01-26 05:16
2 replies
brehze was still good even after krieg nerf now he's just inconsistent
2023-01-26 08:58
1 reply
#119
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United States f1nessd
+1
2023-01-26 18:51
Pure delusion. EG 2019 was actually good. Made semis in Berlin, and won IEM N.Y after.
2023-01-26 10:24
6 replies
I think he meant the early covid era EG
2023-01-26 10:59
4 replies
#116
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United States Zedsamcat
they weren't no1 after november 2019 tho
2023-01-26 18:37
3 replies
2 replies
#122
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United States Zedsamcat
that barely counts cause 1 week
2023-01-26 18:51
1 reply
well they were #1 on hltv ranking, thats what this was about, no?
2023-01-26 19:00
#121
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United States f1nessd
+1
2023-01-26 18:51
newfrog don't even know how good even NRG were at epl, getting 16+ winstreaks etc.
2023-01-26 19:05
new viewer?
2023-01-25 23:18
2 replies
2023-01-26 10:00
1 reply
they beat the best astralis is a best of 5, everything you said is completely irrelevant
2023-01-26 14:42
L take, they were more than good back then
2023-01-25 23:38
2 replies
#49
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Serbia XD___
When EG was 1# in their peak they were more than good but when they got 1# for playing NA tournaments during covid they were on a level of tier 2 eu team at most
2023-01-25 23:50
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oh i forgot about that period, you're right they farmed NA bots so hard
2023-01-26 02:30
depends. 2019 EG #1 was actually an amazing team. 2020 EG #1 I can agree on tho
2023-01-26 08:43
They defeated 2019 Astralis, kid.
2023-01-26 18:33
1 reply
they won 1 tier 1 event and instantly #1
2023-01-26 18:37
outsiders? won major then last place at blast lul
2023-01-25 22:53
9 replies
Were they number 1?
2023-01-25 22:54
2 replies
hltv.org/team/11595/outsiders they were for a week
2023-01-25 22:55
#18
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Russia mr_c
yeah, for 2 weeks
2023-01-25 22:55
they win the major i dont think they are the worst
2023-01-25 23:04
#58
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San Marino Loyuu
If winning a major is a minor achievement i don’t wanna know for how much time have you been watching cs
2023-01-26 02:34
1 reply
plus 1
2023-01-26 02:42
#89
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Germany tilted_up
Still Outsiders bested Heroic 2-0 in Major final, therefore Heroic is worse #1 :D
2023-01-26 10:21
2 replies
Still G2 bested Outsiders right after, with one map being 16-1 to G2, therefore Outsiders are fluke major winners. I wonder if Outsiders stand a chance at Paris. If they go home early, they're definitely fluke major winners.
2023-01-26 10:33
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#103
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Germany tilted_up
They just had the easiest run imho. 100% fluke, even Heroic should’ve never been to finals. Furia should‘ve had semis
2023-01-26 11:41
#6
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France RektByFiflo
It will change at the end of the event has it do every end of event
2023-01-25 22:54
#7
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Brazil buliolfc
honestly, the EG team that was ranked #1 back in 2019 was absolutely not the best team in the world.
2023-01-25 22:54
5 replies
#14
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Turkey Joper
They were best team bro
2023-01-25 22:55
At esl one new york they were the best
2023-01-25 23:06
1 reply
Heroic are worse than EG. EG won a big event and consistently made semi-finalist appearances at big events months prior. They might have even been the 2nd best team at the berlin Major.
2023-01-26 06:01
they were definitely the best team, what the fuck are you saying lmao.
2023-01-26 08:44
1 reply
Definitely not. Astralis was hands down, they just didn't play anywhere near as much, and hltv has come out and said before that playing and finishing last is better than not playing on their rankings. NRG/EG beat Astralis where they both attended in ECS S7 Finals, EPL S9 Finals and ESL One New York. As opposed to both majors, Katowice, Cologne, IEM Beijing, EPL S10 Finals, ECS S8 Finals and Dreamhack Masters Malmo where Astralis finished higher. Astralis had the much better success list and did so in the bigger events, they just played a limited amount in comparison. And even in the events they didn't win, they made playoffs in all bar one, and that one was still a 5th/6th place finish. NRG/EG had 3 lower finishes than that, one of which was a last place at Katowice.
2023-01-26 09:36
i remember EG was #1 for some time
2023-01-25 22:54
5 replies
They also won two international events to be ranked number 1
2023-01-25 22:55
3 replies
in their 2020 stint tho it was regional victories tho wasnt it?
2023-01-25 23:00
Ofcourse they would have won something or made to playoffs to get that ranking. But at that time, there was no clear number 1. It was the time when BIG and Furia were battling for #1 as well
2023-01-25 23:01
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Oh 2020, but I’d still say they aren’t as bad as heroic. That team itself was pretty good and was number 1 at the end of 2019 anyway
2023-01-25 23:04
gotta specify the year bro, EG 2019 #1 was really good, EG 2020 #1 was laughable
2023-01-26 08:45
Probably
2023-01-25 22:54
big in online era lul
2023-01-25 22:54
2 replies
#90
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Germany tilted_up
Still were miles ahead of EG 2020 covid era
2023-01-26 10:22
1 reply
flair but ok
2023-01-26 14:51
#12
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Thailand new!
they are terrible rn but there was worse top1s
2023-01-25 22:54
#15
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Russia AIDEMRETNI
EG being #1 and Optic at #2 were the absolute lowest points of competitive CSGO
2023-01-25 22:55
10 replies
That EG wasn’t that bad. They would never lose to this EG and they were able to consistently take on 2019 astralis and liquid
2023-01-25 22:57
9 replies
No lol, their top 1 spot was a joke, they beat Astralis only once, they won 3 tournaments, and Astralis didnt Play 2 of these
2023-01-25 23:27
8 replies
The eg core literally beat astralis numerous time bro what r u on
2023-01-26 05:01
eg had astralis' number aside from that 1 series at berlin and they won 2 pretty big events and semis at major
2023-01-26 05:48
6 replies
People from EU still say the liquid grand slam doesn't count because Astralis weren't there for all the events. Even though Astralis weren't winning the events they showed up to (including the blast events) got knocked out in cologne etc. What's next should we take away Astralis's wins from when Faze had to play with replacements for Olofmeister in 2018?
2023-01-26 06:05
5 replies
when did i say that, if you look at the eg/nrg astralis h2h with astralis in 2019 it was 4-2 in favor of eg/nrg in LAN series
2023-01-26 08:41
4 replies
I count 3-3 myself. And as per #83, Astralis had the much better record in tournaments they were both at overall.
2023-01-26 09:45
2 replies
true, but whenever they met up, you would give the slight edge to nrg/eg also EPL S9 Finals NRG 2-1 Berlin Legends NRG 2-0 Berlin Playoffs Astralis 2-0 ESL New York Group EG 2-0 ESL New York Final EG 3-1 ECS S8 Final Astralis 2-1
2023-01-26 18:25
1 reply
Ah, I missed New York groups. I forget where off the top of my head, but there was definitely a third for Astralis when I counted myself last night. If I remember I'll double check where it was when I get home tonight.
2023-01-26 22:22
I said people from EU not you.
2023-01-26 14:56
one of the worst, but not the worst
2023-01-25 22:55
#20
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Canada MungoJerry
BIG, EG were worse
2023-01-25 22:56
#21
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Ukraine justhateme
Not it's ok. Outsiders imo way more trash
2023-01-25 22:56
#23
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Germany 361x
comparable to vitality
2023-01-25 22:57
BiG worse
2023-01-25 23:02
3 replies
omg hahahaha no way BIG was #1
2023-01-25 23:07
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1 reply
ahh I didn't follow the online era but it seemed really shit
2023-01-25 23:13
there were some bad top 1 teams in 2020
2023-01-25 23:03
col
2023-01-25 23:04
#32
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Romania Kuchi
big imo
2023-01-25 23:06
name doesn't check out
2023-01-25 23:10
#36
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United States Phanji
the only teams at #1 who were worse was Big and Outsiders
2023-01-25 23:10
4 replies
At least Outsiders won a big tournament
2023-01-26 00:20
3 replies
Heroic won the BLAST Fall Finals which was a big tournament, so you're instantly wrong
2023-01-26 05:45
2 replies
Oh I compared them to BIG rather than Heroic there. Outsiders played only 2 bo3's so I'm unsure about their post-Major form, especially with a replacement
2023-01-26 10:14
1 reply
I completely misunderstood your point then, my bad
2023-01-26 17:28
bug clan worst!
2023-01-25 23:12
Not the first time teams go missing after a break and start playing a lot worse, Navi & Faze were clearly and by far the best 2 teams coming to summer break last year and didn't get any results after the break, Liquid in 2019 was dominating before the break but then were never the same after it and there are probably many more examples of that too. I'd still give Heroic time, they've consistently been around a top5 team since the online era going in playoffs almost every single tournament so I wouldn't be too worried with the slow start.
2023-01-25 23:23
For sure not, at least they deserved it
2023-01-25 23:26
I don't know if you all smoke crack, maybe Heroic is not the best by far right now, but they are top3 team for sure
2023-01-25 23:32
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+1 They had a stand-in at the World Finals and were eliminated by losing two really narrow games. And now they've lost 1 game (again narrowly) to EG, who they then beat comfortably in a rematch, and lost to a well-performing Vitality. You can argue they shouldn't be #1, but people acting like they're playing especially badly (third highest-rated team at the event btw) are just wrong. And yes my flair checks out.
2023-01-26 05:39
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They were also the top rated team in the easiest group and still didn't top it. Any team that had got to play EG twice and Astralis in their group would be among the highest rated ones. At the end of the day, they've gone 6-6 in maps so far even with that group. Vitality went 6-1, Faze has gone 4-1 so far and G2 has gone 4-0. So yeah, I am comfortable in saying they are not top 3 at the moment. I would argue that NaVi would be a decent chance at knocking them off as well, and they'll be hoping Liquid lose or they'll be fighting to even qualify and not have to go to the showdown.
2023-01-26 10:31
1 reply
To be honest, I wasn't really arguing they are top 3, more just agreeing that people are being hyperbolic. Their performance this event (obviously) hasn't been top 3-worthy. Their relatively high rating was just to point out that even when they're struggling, it's not like they're falling completely flat.
2023-01-26 17:48
Honestly, they are one of the better top 1 teams I think, they can beat everyone more often than not
2023-01-25 23:32
#46
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Sweden Skunk2
g2 in 2020 was the worst top1, didnt even win an event....
2023-01-25 23:34
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#53
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United States KadamJ
For real, that's gotta be the answer. Sure, congrats on getting 2nd consistently, but how do you get #1 without a single trophy. BIG may have fallen off harder/been less consistent, but they beat that G2 lineup to get their time at #1.
2023-01-26 00:11
was looking for this, they sucked
2023-01-26 14:50
+1, absolute fact
2023-01-26 19:06
if they don't qualify for Spring Finals, maybe .. but i think there were worse .. very likely
2023-01-25 23:35
Comedian such a shame, smirking face where u at now??? hahahaha running like a pussy and baiting ur team mates still?
2023-01-25 23:52
stopped reading at "Herlowic"
2023-01-25 23:54
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#91
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Germany tilted_up
OP is probably one of those Twitch-Chat spammers.
2023-01-26 10:23
No
2023-01-26 00:02
#56
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Finland dvlx
g2 PREVIOUS ROSTER
2023-01-26 00:21
1 reply
G2 perivous roster never was a top 1 team?
2023-01-26 10:33
#59
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San Marino Loyuu
I mean, hltv is danish and they always do this kind of stuff. Before heroic there was astralis
2023-01-26 02:35
North
2023-01-26 05:42
EG 2020 is worse imo
2023-01-26 05:49
4 replies
EG peaked in 2020
2023-01-26 06:24
3 replies
sure but i dont think they were top 1 especially playing in NA
2023-01-26 08:42
they peaked in 2019
2023-01-26 08:46
1 reply
In terms of hltv ranking it was in 2020
2023-01-26 14:46
#69
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Argentina cheapdeed
vitality
2023-01-26 06:02
Qualifier event
2023-01-26 06:24
its fake rank 1 of cos, real rank 1 is faze/g2/vit
2023-01-26 08:45
EG 2020, BIG 2020, G2 2020. 2020 in general was clearly a laughable year
2023-01-26 08:46
BIG was worst #1 Team
2023-01-26 08:50
#85
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Europe peagod
EG and BUG CLAN for sure
2023-01-26 09:49
EG was ranked #1 during a short period at the latter parts of 2019, lets relax. hltv.org/news/28263/eg-climb-to-no1-in-t..
2023-01-26 10:10
Classic Heroic, when you think they're finally reaching their potential and becoming a top3 contender they go average mode again.
2023-01-26 10:38
some retards still havent figured out its a point system.
2023-01-26 10:40
1 reply
Theyll never learn
2023-01-26 15:03
they are for sure the worst top 1 ranked team, they are literally average
2023-01-26 10:41
EG or BIG
2023-01-26 10:48
2 replies
I think he means rank one as in the were number 1 on HLTV ranking but even if he meant tier 1 team that wouldn't apply to EG lol
2023-01-26 11:02
1 reply
#126
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Germany So_Dumm
EG was number 1 team on one occasion and BIG also was. NT newcomer
2023-01-26 19:06
#104
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Turkey soossixd
NaVi worst
2023-01-26 12:32
BUG CLAN
2023-01-26 15:06
hltv.org/ranking/teams/2020/june/22/5995 top1 without winning anything
2023-01-26 18:51
heroic
2023-01-26 18:52
#127
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Sweden XenoRex
Fnatic 2020 and this is coming from a ultra fnc fan. after getting nr 1 they dissapeared for 3 years
2023-01-26 19:06
Heroic has always been a top 10 team, it's not like they have become #1 by not winning anything
2023-01-26 19:08
I think some would argue that it was outsiders. They did a great job winning the major but to call them #1 in the world was a stretch
2023-01-26 19:12
Outsiders 2022 by far
2023-01-26 19:18
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