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Damn bro, in 2 weeks I finish my 2 year military service, I will give my opinion about the German military below
Pros:
Decent Pay (2k/month for beginners, gets more every rank upgrade + years you stay)
Added Hours (I made 150h extra during 2 week practice, then straight 3 weeks off afterwards)
Brotherhood (no one got bullied or made fun off, everyone is part of the team)
Sport (3-4 times a week sport during working hours, best thing ever)
Experience (you shoot at least 4 different weapons regularly, different locations, insights of the military)
Cons:
Away from home (most of the times you get placed far away from home, only home on weekends)
Hierarchy (no matter how dumb the order is, you have to do it if its an officer or a sergeant)
Bad Equipment (so much is broken and outdated, we still use a lot of equipment from 70 years ago)
Nothing to do (if we don't go to 2 week practice we often have nothing to do and just sit around in office or our room)
Overall great experience, but I decided to go back to my old job because Family, Gf and friends are more important, I can't be away from home for 5 days a week. I think if you live near the Barrack, it's a fantastic job, at least here in Germany.
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looks like average cis military but much better
was that kimi raikkonen??
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No, he got a body double to do his military service.
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oh, expected
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HAHAHA DONT SAY IT DONT SAY IT
The 5€/day is a great pay in Finland for the mandatory service, what do you mean?
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"great pay" XD You must be joking
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Was sarcasm, should have probably been clearer
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your rent and basic utilities are paid for you
The mandatory service in Finland is basically either 165 days or 347 days (depends what they want to train you for and how long that takes, I was 347 days). For the first 165 days it's I think 5,20 €/day, after that (if you are in the army for 347 days) it's couple of months for ~9€/day and last couple of months is ~12€/day. The pay is terrible but the government helps with some of the expenses like rent if you need help. I think a lot of people still live with parents when they go to army since it's usually when you are between 19-21 years old.
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Wtf thats ridiculous. In Switzerland you get paid 80% of your salary if you had a job in the last 12 months. But theres no help with rent etc, only if you already have children you get extra money. Btw since 2023 we earn an additional 7.50 CHF per day on top of the 80% (not that it matters much compared to salary)
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It was so annoying since I was working for the Finnish Defence Forces (accounting) for half a year before my service started and they even said they would have kept me if the service didn't start. So I dropped from ~2,6k/month to ~5€/day while working in the same "company"
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Dude we have 8euros per month in our mandatory services xD
Mandatory service ?
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copium. you know exactly what he's talking about.
besides you just know that whenever someone mentions 'female defence minister' you know she hasn't got any semblance of a military career, ergo she has no idea what she's doing and is completely reliant on advisors. oh and advisors are almost always political appointments, so the ministerial structure will be completely rotten at the top levels. luckily the army can operate without them, but it's not gonna be good.
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your statement is manifestly untrue.
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okey anthony
If you are officer you can ask to locate you closer to home? i think
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well in indonesia it also happened for police/military officer. they said it was to prevent some individual from gaining/building too much power or money in their respective region
heck even some civil servant do that too, especially under financial ministry
maybe it unnecessary right now in germany, but when bad times hit, you surely want those precaution in place or even stricter
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thanks for sharing your story <3
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Thank you for your service and good luck in the future
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Serving in ones country military, is performing a civic service and something to be celebrated.
With you guys being a friendly neighboring country and also a NATO partner, then serving in the German military is also good for us.
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>away from home
>home on weekends
bruh....
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As I know before the war in Russia it was like 1 year away from home
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no,i was talking about army in russia
Yes mens, besides we have mandatory service here, so for one year you are going... Well, somewhere. Sometimes people are lucky to stay near their hometown and kinda live a normal life, but navy mens and border troops are usually located 9999 kilometers from home
luckily you can pay around 500-1000$ and avoid it
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Hopefully I'll be in the US air force late this year or next year
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you go to a recruiting program, they test your fitness, mental (with a computer test) and a personal conversation where they ask you critical questions about you and how you'd react in certain situations (like would you kill someone in war etc.)
even for the 2 years you have to go through all of this, but it's not that difficult, if you want to become an officer though, you gotta ace that shit.
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I'm glad for you bro!
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no zelenskyj need u on the front bro ( JK u are right)
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good thread, and good job
Military is dumb in general, waste of precious time of your life
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If your job is sitting in front of a screen in a boring office environment then it's your loss for making poor life choices. I work in an office and I smile everyday while going to work
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I'm not judging I'm making fun of people who are working in the military. It's just sounds miserable and terrible for any normal person, sorry you had to go through that
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Earning a mere 2000 euros per month is unappealing, particularly considering the lack of flexibility in terms of remote work.
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i gained so much knowledge and leadership skills from being in the military. i found it to be very rewarding
Military is an easy and decent job indeed, basically no requirements such as diploma or good grades/exams, i would like to work there if it wasnt for putins regime. In a peaceful country its a good option.
Also, cant you just work in a military in your city? I understand countries with mandatory military, but if you going for contract cant you just choose what office you will be in?
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Thats understandable
So, in other cases people can work in their hometowns, right?
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"Use equipment from 70 years ago" the Tiger tanks still work? ;)
What exactly did you do there?
Will you stay Reservist from now on?
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yea our tanks are still goated, but thats about it, we have like a hand full of aircrafts that actually work for example and the equipment like the Lochkoppel are unbelievably outdated, but there is a thing called Infantrie der Zukunft going on, that upgrades all the equipment for the Infantrie.
combat swimmer for the Heer (not KSM) for 2 years.
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Yeah I heard about IdZ, looks interesting.
Cool, I didn't even know that existed.
wtf it's been 2 years already?
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damn, time flies past on HLTV
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I'm doing ok, fucked up some stuff with my studies but I got one semester left to make everything right, just gotta give back like 5 essays, I can make it but I'm gonna have to have a little more focus and motivation. Then it'll be civil service I guess :) I'm looking forward to it whatever the outcome of my studies will be tho, I'm tired of doing uni work, I need to do something with my hands :)
Hope you're doing good too, any plans (that you can afford to reaveal on HLTV) for what you wanna do after the army?
im probably gonna go to army academy to become an officer.
thoughts?
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_military_..
id start with the lowest officer rank and then climb from there.
its a different situation in croatia though, doubt id move around much.
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Yea my first unit was about 250km from me too, did that for a year and was then able to change to my current unit (Fernmelder at first, did my Uffz-lehrgang and then switched to gebirgsjäger cus fuck sitting in an office).
Its fucked, the weekends feel so short when you always have to leave sunday night, so glad i was able to figure that out lol
Guess I will meet you on the battlefield, I am also officer, can recommend.
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deal
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Thanks for the reply, it’s crazy how hard it is to avoid meat and dairy still in 2023. The military here serves food with no meat because we have a big Indian population but dairy is in everything it seems. Hopefully this changes soon. What’s ironic is that the ‘Canada food guide’ (federal health agency dietary guide) basically recommends a primarily plant based diet with occasional meat and dairy consumption.
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Lmao, I was trained to defend the ship from NATO combat swimmers.
Cya if NATO vs Russia war starts
Edit. Just read my comment and realized it can be misunderstood. I'm not trying to be rude, just thought it's funny that such confidences happen. Where else would I talk to my conditional enemy ?
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Gj Anton please don't kill me in the war :(
i served for just under 10 years and i miss it. i miss the suck.
your list is pretty accurate. shitty leaders ruin just about everything, but the steady pay, brotherhood, and experience make it worth it imo. i got paid to use high explosives, jump from planes and helicopters, fire machine guns, throw grenades, etc.
nades would be OP if the CS devs made them more realistic haha
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the Iraq and Afghan wars make my blood boil. just like both of us know, shitty leadership makes everything worse
nice bro, i miss my time in the military and i guess u will feel the same in some time
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they started 2 world wars
I let you know, my friendo, that's the problem of almost every state military in the world
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I served 1 year in Russian Navy
Don't fucking recommend. You go to the seas - you don't see girls for months
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Yeah but you have full access to seaMENS)))
ty for this thread one of the best I have read on HLTV so far cuz I wanted to join army myself really good one have a nice day
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yea of course but still it is really interesting thread
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lots actually regret getting out
most vets i know don't regret the decision to join the army/military
Did you had to shoot anyone? Did you kill anyone?
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