Forum thread: finnish cs back to the top ?

only jimphat and MAYBE just MAYBE sunny are capable to play in tier 1

2023-01-28 17:49

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Banjo > sunny

2023-01-28 18:28

allu and sunny hate each other

2023-01-28 17:49

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thats the problem with finnish scene, allu is literaly the only good awper. maybe podii then or something

2023-01-28 17:51

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i think that if we would get a new finnish team it would be something like sunny + 4 or 3 young players since hes been playing faceit a lot with these players sunny podi myltsi + igl and a rifler

2023-01-28 17:59

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i mean banjo is young and probably best young rifler and slowii is like the only igl there is in finland. (they probably cant get doto)

2023-01-28 18:01

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slowi is like the apex of finland tbh, he doesnt seem like a really smart player to be igl in my opinion, but havu was good in 2021 with him so i dont really know

2023-01-28 18:03

lynxi could be the awp too. posts solid ratings even though team keeps losing

2023-01-29 18:54

ottond and podi so much better than allu in 2023

2023-01-28 20:11

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even Spargo is better than Allu with awp currently; but honestly, we haven't had prime Allu level awper since Jamppi left... suNny Jimpphat Banjo Jamppi zehN would still be the best bet for Finnish CS scene :)

2023-01-29 09:26

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-zehn +sergej top10 team

2023-01-29 18:45

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We probably will never see sergej play again.

2023-01-29 21:44

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i know :/

2023-01-29 21:46

But if he would then this team is one to remember and the saviour of Finnish cs

2023-01-29 22:01

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I have been waiting for return of Finnish cs for over 3 years now. I would like to see them even qualify to tier 1 event.

2023-01-29 22:10

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Understandable… this year is I think the first time no Swedish team in the top 20 and now the best team is not even in the top 50…

2023-01-29 23:12

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Yeah, lets hope you guys recover faster than Finnish cs. You atleast have promising young players and couple of star players in tier 1. Without Jimpphat, Finnish cs would be hopeless rn. But maybe we can get atleast 1 more player into good team.

2023-01-29 23:17

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I actually doubt it but I hope both scenes improve fast. The dream would be, for me at least, if NiP realise that their ceo have failed to rebuild and goes back to its swedish which would make aleksib available. Jimpphat together with aleksib is almost in itself good for enough to become a competitive t2 team but I really wish jamppi comes back because that guy was talented.

2023-01-29 23:22

+smillee +jemi +ottond And maybe they could have a chance of beating havu who are top 40-30. Those are only "good" players they can really get. And even with them ottond, banjo and sunny would have to pull some serious weight.

2023-01-29 21:40

jamppi was the only hope of finnish cs

2023-01-29 10:26

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nah finnish obo aka sergej was :|

2023-01-29 18:46

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I think Jamppi got one of those "one for the future" things. He defo had a place in tier 1 until he decided to stay in Valorant

2023-01-29 20:54

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he was forced to by valves ban rules at the time being and tbh he wasnt that good at ence but that may be a different story.

2023-01-29 21:11

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Yeah because he played entry as an rifler and not his real role.

2023-01-29 21:45

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yes i know, thats why i wrote that it is a different story to judge his time at ence. we may see his return by the end of the year.

2023-01-29 21:49

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It would be the dream, but I sadly think he is commited to valorant rn.

2023-01-29 21:49

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his contract ends in september as far as i know. i really would love to see a top 10 team with him and some other players.

2023-01-29 21:51

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I hope we see him on cs one day but I rly dont know if it will happen or not. Dont get it wrong, it would be my dream.

2023-01-29 21:52

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he said once that he is considering coming back, and he wants it

2023-01-30 00:26

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Yeah, I know very well all he has said, after that he also has said that he is commited to valorant.

2023-01-30 13:59

I don’t think he will resign his contract so with some luck he might come back just in time for aleksib’s stint with NiP comes to an end when they decide to kick him for a terrible igl that’s like hooxie individually and with t4 calling level

2023-01-29 23:16

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Aleksib Jamppi Jimpphat suNny Banjo This team would actually give me hope for Finnish cs for the first time in a long time.

2023-01-29 23:18

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The great thing is that they probably acutely fit together in terms of roles. SunNy might not be even close to that t1 rifler he used to be but still together with aleksib a great mentor that’s decent enough individually to make them go far.

2023-01-29 23:25

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he was decent in gorillaz/titans just not a hard carry and if he gets motivated he's solid. I think bigger question is banjo but if he's good this team could be solid tier 2

2023-01-30 00:13

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Aleksib probably would get best out of Banjo tbh.

2023-01-30 14:00

first time playing tier 1 in a dead team while playing entry rather than your main role and still holding 1.0 rating isn't bad at all

2023-01-30 00:10

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#89 ;)

2023-01-30 00:21

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he was good just not amazing. So many young players get their roles in tier 1 and still can't perform

2023-01-30 00:34

Good is a strong word for allu…

2023-01-29 21:45

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more like an incorrect word

2023-01-30 17:52

why what's happened?

2023-01-29 09:13

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End of 2020? Allu was talking bullshit in HLTV confirmed, Sunny said in twitter he is lying, Sunny left ence....

2023-01-29 10:01

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oh this 2020, the darkest time for cs imo, so i didn't follow the scene. thanks for an explanation

2023-01-29 10:36

wasn't so long until sergej xseven and aerial left too

2023-01-29 20:55

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Xseven left 2020 august already, Aerial was already on medical brake and Sergej ready to join army

2023-01-29 21:50

since when

2023-01-29 13:46

top 20 in finland ig

2023-01-28 17:50

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milan j4ff 💀💀💀

2023-01-29 10:37

kurdish mafia goat

2023-01-29 13:47

idk about this really, sunny is pretty washed

2023-01-28 17:52

Why does he go for these projects?

2023-01-28 17:55

allu is too washed tbh

2023-01-28 17:56

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allu isn't, others are

2023-01-28 18:27

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he is, if he wouldnt be , he would be on better teams. face the truth

2023-01-28 18:28

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lmao, if he left surely he would be. He just wants to play in finnish team

2023-01-28 18:29

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sure :D

2023-01-28 20:08

He doesn't just "want to play in Finnish team", he just didn't get any offers from international teams :D

2023-01-29 09:26

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Who tf wants 30yo awp

2023-01-29 12:26

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sinners

2023-01-29 19:33

HAVU top 10 in the end of this year ;)

2023-01-28 17:56

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But they peak at #30 :/

2023-01-29 09:46

average player age 27.6 and their only young player is the awper who just doesn't have pro material XD

2023-01-29 10:29

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HAVU LAN TEAM

2023-01-29 13:44

this version of HAVU just don't sit with me. Never should've dropped jemi, or at least drop him after you've found a replacement

2023-01-29 20:56

tier 5

2023-01-28 17:56

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name a tier 5 team

2023-01-28 17:58

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hltv.org/ranking/teams/2023/january/23/c.. heres a list

2023-01-28 18:02

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hltv.org/stats/players/18072/torzsi?star.. hltv.org/stats/players/9816/aleksib?star.. aleksib is igl torzsi is awp aleksib is 25 years old torzsi is 20 years old aleksib>>>>>>>>>>>>torzsi and I've never liked aleksib by lot

2023-01-30 00:47

volt is playing in UK mix btw...

2023-01-28 17:57

Maybe top 20 in home city

2023-01-28 18:01

finnish cs back to the gutter

2023-01-28 18:01

sunny washed unfortunately

2023-01-28 18:02

Last decent sunny performance was 6 years ago. It's over for him.

2023-01-28 18:10

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he also hasnt had a good team since then, no chance to prove he has something to show still

2023-01-28 18:12

Never going to happen again.

2023-01-28 18:25

sunny still wasting his time in shit mixes smh

2023-01-28 18:26

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What else could he do? No one is going to sign him, you think its time for him to quit csgo and get a job, or?

2023-01-28 18:30

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He had a chance to join BIG at some point, but he stuck with Gorillaz/TITANS. I think he could join a tier 2 team if he really wanted to, but yeah his time is probably over

2023-01-28 18:32

problem of csgo and other professional esport athletes no other skills beyond playing a game.

2023-01-29 18:05

not gonna happen

2023-01-28 18:26

Jimmpphat is the only promising finn, aerial, xseven, zehn and allu (like him or hate him, dude used to be a beast and is one of the few awping finns) are all getting a bit too old to break it back in t1

2023-01-28 18:28

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Banjo is promising too imo

2023-01-28 18:31

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Banjo has shown more than Jimpphat on the scene, but still obviously Jimpphat is more promising, but people are sleeping on Banjo; Also podi is doing really well in ENCE Academy currently

2023-01-29 09:28

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2023-01-29 09:40

Top 100

2023-01-28 20:10

tf is this tier 5 pug team

2023-01-29 09:20

Handful of players trying to be competetive and the rest either tryharding on Nuke or "play for fun".

2023-01-29 09:27

Believe is only together to keep fnatic Risings spot in EPL Conference; This team will not be together after that :) But still suNny and Banjo could go for some Finnish mix for sure

2023-01-29 09:28

players that have potential to play in top 30 teams: allu, myltsi, Jimpphat, podi, Banjo, xseven, Aerial, Zehn, SuNny and HENU. That's about it. Maybe I forgot someone, still kinda limited options.

2023-01-29 09:39

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aleksib?

2023-01-29 12:53

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why would I even mention him, if he already plays in top 30 team?

2023-01-29 17:31

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because he also has potential to play in top 30 team? Also, HAVU literally was top 30 team last week :D

2023-01-29 17:55

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HAVU is hovering at the moment top30-50, they aren't solid top 30 right now, but if they keep having good results then I can agree that they are top30 team. Like I said aleksib is the only player that actually plays in top30 team, so you make yourself look like a fool. ;)

2023-01-29 19:12

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Not really, the fact that you according to your original comment don't think Aleksib has potential to play in top 30 teams, even tho he currently plays in one makes you look like a fool :)

2023-01-29 19:47

We need aleksib first to compete in top 20

2023-01-29 10:20

Back?

2023-01-29 10:21

tier 2 domination

2023-01-29 12:27

Believe Believe 0 : 2 1WIN 1WIN

2023-01-29 13:01

matzjr is in the makings, just you lads wait...

2023-01-29 13:57

should add SADDYX

2023-01-29 17:58

Finnish orgs contact me and top 10 EZ

2023-01-29 21:21

myltsi / melty (was possible awp for ence ac playing in amphis ac right now small finnish esport organization having only csgo main and ac) amphis.fi/csgo-academy/ awp... aleksib sunny banjo Jimpphat

2023-01-29 21:33

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Amphis was gonna sign my team as a second academy but the talks fell through today :D Lintsukka still goat tho

2023-01-29 21:37

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gotta find a new org now :D

2023-01-29 21:39

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havu ac ofc :DDDDDDDD

2023-01-29 21:39

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we talking with aRCTIC eSports rn and trying others but HAVU do no want a full five to my knowledge

2023-01-29 21:41

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Is havu planning an ac roster? That would be amazing for the scene

2023-01-29 22:35

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to my knowledge yes

2023-01-29 22:46

also we are too bad for HAVU :D

2023-01-29 21:50

mixed? :DDDD

2023-01-29 21:42

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nah but I know him :D

2023-01-29 21:43

where do you know M1xed?

2023-01-29 21:44

2023-01-29 22:37

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you too :DDDD

2023-01-29 22:47

Actually suNny + Banjo is a solid core to build a Finnish lineup around. A experienced rifler that can still deliver I feel like, and a youngster that already looks kinda solid, this will probably be an international project but would be cool to see a Finnish lineup build around that.

2023-01-29 21:53

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#76

2023-01-29 22:33

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Banjo (Support) xseveN (Rifler) Aerial (Entry) Aleksib (IGL) allu (AWPer) Basically ENCE -sergej +Banjo I think that would be my Finnish superteam, I'm not that deep into Finnish scene but I think it's a solid lineup, players with some experience that seem solid on Tier-2/Tier-3 level with one of the best IGLs in the world, it's a dream, ofc. Aleksi isn't leaving NIP but that's what I would make.

2023-01-29 22:38

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I want to be honest but I don't think allu has skills to be playing in the highest level nowadays banjo is nowhere to be close as sergej in skill level (not saying his bad but sergej was in another level it's sad to see he leaving from competetive cs) aerial is good but building right now new team would probably break his form same for xseven I believe aleksib is good igl in finnish teams but not in international teams I rather keep #76 team and nowaday havu as 2 good finnish teams playing in atleast high to mid tier 2

2023-01-29 22:51

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Maybe then just try to swap spargo for allu in HAVU? I believe allu is still an upgrade over spargo, and honestly, I feel like not having a strong AWPer is the only thing holding HAVU back from actually being a solid TOP 20-30 squad. It's just fantasy, but I think allu is still the strongest AWPer in Finland tbh.

2023-01-29 22:53

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myltsi from ence ac is quite good and I would expect him to be better filling awp job than spargo and in few years allus stats will be dropping quite much

2023-01-29 23:52

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That's for sure, but I think we're talking about the best roster for today, and in that I would still put allu over myltsi, just my opinion.

2023-01-30 15:01

Xseven and aerial both took part in the "backstabing" of allu that happened in 2020, so I dont think either allu or xseven and aerial want to play with each other.

2023-01-29 23:53

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Yeah I heard about that, but it's just more of a fantasy than a real project.

2023-01-30 15:01

no any source but it has talked through behind closed doors. I think I saw allu, xseven, twista, xarte, aerial talk together in Assembly summer 2022 (c-tier tornament usually the biggest lan tornament in Finland)

2023-01-30 17:45

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Might be, but after everything can they still be in the same team. :E

2023-01-30 21:45

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Unlikely If allu goes to another team it will probably international/finnish tier 2 team. I can't see aerial in any other than finnish squads same for xseven. Aleksib is tier 1 IGL if he would be in finnish squad. international tier 2 IGL

2023-02-01 09:09

Banjo and Jimpphat are for sure the duo that will feature in any actually good Finnish team in future Still no IGLs so its pretty dependent on Aleksi finally realising international teams are a waste of time Then you need an AWPer and someone to do support unless sergej makes a return so that basically leaves podi as the only promising AWPer and xseveN as the strongest support left Would probably only float top12-8 though

2023-01-29 22:02

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Banjo is pretty over hyped player though. There is no guarentee that he will ever reach tier 3 lvl.

2023-01-30 00:30

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He subbed in for fnatic at one point and did honestly pretty decent for first t1 experience He has a way to go but he definitely has the chance

2023-01-30 10:41

i love finnish cs

2023-01-29 22:16

another paulcraig braindead thread

2023-01-30 00:26

+khrn

2023-01-30 00:34

finnish scene big joke, maybe jimpphat can make it in tier1, hope he goes international and doesn't get stuck trying to carry finnish bots to tier 1, because its not happening sunny washed and should retire, sorry

2023-01-30 00:39

agree op, havu needs to disband

2023-01-30 10:56

Sunny and allu washed and jimpphat deserves better

2023-01-30 15:03

can definitely reach top 100 in ~6 months and maybe play a couple of games on HLTV

2023-01-30 17:50

Can someone explain why sergej left and of may return cause bro got top 15 and and he’s still young so if he returnsss

2023-01-30 22:52

finnish cs is dead. sad, but true. call me when it will change because i'm interested to see. btw ankalaev won

2023-02-01 09:16