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What do pros do when contract runs out
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Faroe Islands KungFuPanda_Enjoyer 
When pro players contract runs out, like with trace for example, do they just live off of the money they made? Surely they dont make enough to sustain themselves for many months without any issues. Alex has been inactive for so long and apparently you dont make a lot of money for fnatic, so how ?
2023-01-30 19:30
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Many pro players have investments outside with what they earn in addition to playing
2023-01-30 19:32
#2
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Spain Wiricardo
They re crypto bros outside the servers
2023-01-30 19:33
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unironically yeah
2023-01-30 19:49
#3
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Netherlands Dutch69
Go full antivax on twitter. Oh wait that was just ChrisJ my bad
2023-01-30 19:34
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Skull emoji
2023-01-31 08:07
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💀y
2023-01-31 18:37
#4
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Wales Hi_Im_New
A player like Alex definitely made enough money to live for a while without a gig if he is managing his money well. Goes for pretty much every player that played in tier 1 for a year. The tier 2-3 players need a job tho
2023-01-30 19:35
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Finland HARD4ENCE
The keyword here is "for a while". Definitely not for the rest of his life. Max 5 years and he'll have to go work to McDonald's or some shit.
2023-01-30 20:10
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Wales Hi_Im_New
The thread says months and mentions Alex who hasn't been inactive for 5 years so yeah didn't feel the need to mention it
2023-01-30 20:24
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#24
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Well, ALEX has been inactive for almost 2 years now, so not too far to go off.
2023-01-30 20:26
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o.0 has been in fnatic until like 2 months ago, which he was probably getting money while being on the bench, before that he had a few months off and he was on c9, so what 2 years are you talking about?
2023-01-31 08:15
#71
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Finland aleksiii
He mightve not been active but he still had a contract
2023-02-01 08:59
i don’t think guys like skade will ever have to work a day in their life again
2023-01-30 20:34
#5
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United States zovint
Like where is niko? They join random pro team full of kicked/benched players and hope to make money in tier 3-4 tournaments usually through match fixing
2023-01-30 19:41
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#21
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Finland Trob1950
Niko just played qualifier with MSL Aizy and Co. play.esea.net/events/2257/team/124326
2023-01-30 20:14
they go to macDonalds and fry burgers or consult unemployment check
2023-01-30 19:42
2 replies
Shouldnt they be able to live off wellfare, atleast in countries like Finland or Dennmark? I think they can even join a union kind of unemployement register so the money they get would be based on their previous salary.
2023-01-31 10:56
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I dont know but as I said I assume they just apply for unemployment check
2023-01-31 12:12
#7
broky | 
Latvia Comzie
Depends on the type of player, teams they played for and how long for, a player who plays for 4 years on lets say a decent team top 15 ish probably makes 20k / month and would make total a little less than a million, probably a bit more if they get sticker money / tournament and such. This is much of an assumption but fairly accurate imo, 4 years played total should be a minimum for most, bar exceptions. And after they can always just go into streaming without a problem, or just go on eyeballers like JW / flusha or something like that and earn a bit of money while having fun
2023-01-30 19:48
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20k lol no way ive heard zywoo makes 40k, no way some rando on a top 15 team makes anything close to that
2023-01-30 19:50
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I think its a lot more es3tag was making 36-41k people were memeing him and it was in 2020 i can imagine zywoo earning 50-65k now similiar to s1
2023-01-30 19:54
Zywoo is definantly higher in the 50k ballpark atleast, along with s1mple, NiKo etc. Also I feel you underestimate the earnings of top 15 teams, it also depends on the org, I heard before ENCE isn't generally that giving when it comes to salaries and their players make like 10-15k, and if thats ENCE you can imagine other teams, I feel it's higher than you think
2023-01-30 19:54
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Wales Hi_Im_New
20k is pretty much the minimum salary for players in tier 1, there aren't many teams in the top 15 that pay less
2023-01-30 20:01
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where do you get this info from?
2023-01-30 20:25
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Wales Hi_Im_New
Just from following the scene for years and listening to people within the scene
2023-01-30 20:29
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smooya said he earned 5k in fnatic
2023-01-30 20:34
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#31
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Wales Hi_Im_New
Fnatic weren't a top 15 team when they signed him and he wasn't in a position to negotiate a better contract. And yeah Fnatic are known to not pay that well since they're a relatively poor org compared to the tier 1 orgs. Point stands regardless, the teams that are consistently top 15 in the world do pay 20k and more on a regular basis
2023-01-30 20:40
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According to smooya one player on fnatic earns 40-50k (krimz most likely) so i guess fnatic can afford a huge salary just like mouz, who paid ropz better than faze, when they feel its worth
2023-01-31 16:48
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Wales Hi_Im_New
yeah, also his brand value is massive for Fnatic who other than Krimz don't have players with large fanbases anymore
2023-01-31 16:55
#38
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Indonesia ycrows
smooya special treatment
2023-01-31 08:12
#28
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North America 007DBR9
top 15 isn't "randos" that's tier 1 cs
2023-01-30 20:36
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im sure neofrag isnt making 20k. Lmao
2023-01-31 07:29
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he could be making at least 10k while playing on OG, would not be surpised if he makes 15k + remember all the prize money for players. they really do make a lot
2023-01-31 09:23
yekindar said in interview that after his first year on VP he could buy an apartment in latvian capital city (thats like at least 80k) + live 1 year off that money freely without thinking about money. and remember that was his first contract (he said it was really small contract compared to what he makes now) p.s it was latvian interview, but if you want i can send you a link
2023-01-31 09:35
bro zywoo makes way over 50k
2023-01-31 09:22
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source?
2023-01-31 15:20
if u count sticker money its probably even more but for base salary 0 chance its that high lol
2023-01-31 15:26
its more about the org than the player complexity are paying way above the market price (or at least used to) just because its an na org, meanwhile someone better than them could earn 2-3x less
2023-01-31 10:52
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Pakistan LoOuU2
its about both i`d say. Mouz paid Ropz alot more than they paid rest of the team BUT Ropz right now is earning less in Faze than he did in Mouz! Both org and player`s stature and worth go into estimating the wages i`d say , and one has more need of the other.
2023-01-31 15:23
streaming + loads have crypto or skin hustles
2023-01-30 19:50
First of all they have investments, personal sponsors and team sponsors. They also have sticker money still going into their pocket as well as org, incase of benched pro they retain 50-60% their paycheck. They get money from Twitch subs if they stream and from donations. They own numerous stocks (that was case with prime Astralis)
2023-01-30 19:55
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Sheesh the Astralis players must be stacked if they got a good amount of their stock
2023-01-30 20:38
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Nah
2023-01-31 08:20
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yes, they are literally all millionares just by tournament money alone, sponsors, sticker money etc, they are multi-millionaires
2023-01-31 09:31
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So as long as they are smart with their money, they should never work again.
2023-01-31 16:26
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for sure + if they stream, they can make extra money
2023-01-31 16:42
yes the astralis players are stacked, but they didn't get much stock at all, and that stock has TANKED in the past years.
2023-02-01 08:35
exactly, that is very good job by them
2023-01-31 09:31
#65
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Wales Hi_Im_New
You don't get any sticker money anymore once the capsule sales end
2023-01-31 16:45
Fix a few games before your contract runs out. You’ll never have to work again
2023-01-30 19:56
Pull a Tarik or shroud where you farm ez money off valorant 12 yo’s
2023-01-30 19:57
t1 players can make easy career with streaming, maybe not thousands of viewers if they not particularly funny, but enough to make a living coaches idk. If didn't make enough bank or good investments then they can try analyst/commentator/behind the scenes things, otherwise they get real job
2023-01-30 19:59
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Finland HARD4ENCE
In Finland they live off of Kela at least (social welfare). Except sergej who apparently became a truck driver.
2023-01-30 20:06
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#29
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North America 007DBR9
that is based sergej is the goat
2023-01-30 20:36
#52
GIGA | 
Sweden murii
I want to see him posing in front of a truck.
2023-01-31 10:13
#20
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United States DBVS
CSGO players have something that no other esport really has, and that is streaming for a lot of cash, any T3/T2/T1 player can easily make 6 figures with gambling sponsors on twitch, d0cc, loba, day0s, cooper, all of them make more money than many T1 pros out of their gambling sponsors
2023-01-30 20:12
A I wondered about this too. Like with normal jobs here in Sweden we pay about 15 euros every month to something called a-kassa. Which makes it so that when you go unemployed they will pay you up to 80% of your salary when you are without a job. Don’t know if this applies to esports jobs.
2023-01-31 07:36
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if a person pays taxes then he should be able to apply for this, most (if not all) european countries have this
2023-01-31 09:33
#34
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Australia crewy
Where is AZR :|
2023-01-31 07:39
6 replies
Honestly he shouldve gotten picked up by a team like apeks
2023-01-31 08:07
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#41
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Australia crewy
Yeah it’s a shame the jkaem and AZR show never happened at Apeks. AZR JKAEM and bntet was a solid core, they just needed a decent rifle and AWP to help and that team could’ve been decent.
2023-01-31 09:13
1 reply
Agreed
2023-01-31 10:20
#61
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Pakistan LoOuU2
he moved to Europe with his girlfriend some time ago and hopes were risen about him joining some EU roster soon , instead he was last seen playing bunch of games for Encore a while back but its been silence
2023-01-31 15:26
2 replies
Yeah, AZR and Grat did the Rio qualifiers with Encore but have both dropped out again in more recent months.
2023-02-01 09:27
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Pakistan LoOuU2
never thought i would say this but i kinda miss Gratata in the scene , even though i always wanted Renegades/Extremum to kick his ass.
2023-02-01 12:52
Dennis, the pistol god from fnatic and nip etc said in his stream that he already now have a ”normal” job.
2023-01-31 07:48
Gamble for more money
2023-01-31 09:19
Some go to normal jobs, some live out of the money they made, some live from investments. There is a guy from CSGO scene(i am not saying he's a player) who doesn't have to do anything till he dies, yet still works every single day. Its not Fallen but he might be even richer at this point.
2023-01-31 09:21
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Why dont you just say this persons name? :D
2023-01-31 09:34
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Why would I do this other than to satisfy curiosity of hltv users? Im not a rat. I wouldnt say bad things to strangers about people I hate so I wont talk private stuff about people I like. I am just saying that some people are pretty smart with money.
2023-01-31 10:02
They all go to a farm in the north west of Finland owned by Allu and live a simple life
2023-01-31 10:16
1 reply
Sounds like a good TV show
2023-01-31 16:44
Well, I mean, what would you do if you got fired from your job? You'd probably get a different job and keep working.
2023-01-31 18:40
When player gets removed from team, there is almost always some contract left, giving the player comfortable opportunity to find new team until contract runs out. If one still aims to be a pro, one will probably continue training like normal while looking for opportunities. And when contract runs out, player can usually survive some time without new contract depending on situation. There are also many teams in lower tiers that actually do pay decent enough salaries to live, even when one cannot become rich with playing in lower tiers. For some people streaming is also nice option, but its not for everyone. And if one gives up on becoming pro, well, its pretty much same as any sport people who have put all time and energy towards specific sport. Giving up on your way of life and finding something else to do can be quite the journey for many ex-players.
2023-02-01 09:24
streaming ofc
2023-02-01 10:52
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