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Top 5 IGL ever
Nifty | 
North America coL_fan_since_2013 
1. pronax / Fnatic [Best IGL overall in CS:GO History] 2. gla1ve / Astralis [Best CT side IGL] 3. Ex6tenZ / eNvyUs [Best T side IGL] 4. FalleN / Luminosity&SK [Best AWP IGL] 5. Karrigan / Astralis/FaZe [Best Roster-Building IGL] Honorable Mention: Zeus had the best IGL performance ever at Krakow 2017 for Gambit but only 1 major era. Honorable Mention 2 : DaZed & Seang@res but they NA
2023-01-31 13:06
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#1
tabseN | 
Germany drowC
you forgot niko
2023-01-31 13:07
1 reply
The thick one
2023-01-31 14:35
#2
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Brazil MIBR_IS_BAD
ex6 in envy rofl
2023-01-31 13:08
1 reply
you dont remember ex6tenz best IGL for nV?????????? winning COUNTLESS rounds against SOME players?
2023-01-31 14:25
you forgot godapex
2023-01-31 13:08
21 replies
#8
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Europe idan)
+1
2023-01-31 13:09
Apex not even a real Igl
2023-01-31 13:16
19 replies
but still goat
2023-01-31 13:16
7 replies
winned nothing being igl. that's why he ins't on the list.
2023-01-31 13:32
6 replies
EPL s16 IEM winter 2021 BLAST Fall Finals 2020 IEM Beijing-Haidian 2020 He's a serviceable IGL who's won 4 tournaments in-game leading, but the Happy2Majors guy is deluded af.
2023-01-31 13:42
5 replies
yea, not bad igl. but not legend.
2023-01-31 14:23
3 replies
absolutely, just wanted to let you know he's actually won 4 titles leading rather than 0 :D
2023-01-31 14:59
2 replies
#74
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Sweden Mendiy
didnt apex win a major?
2023-01-31 15:57
1 reply
Yes, it was DH Open Cluj-Napoca in 2015, although Happy was in-game leading that squad Back then, apEX was just a raw entry fragger
2023-01-31 16:02
im not deluded i was obviously baiting... apex is still a great igl with a 15 year old career but ofc he's miles behind gla1ve and the others
2023-01-31 18:28
shox and now magisk do most of the calling anyway.
2023-01-31 13:38
10 replies
source?
2023-01-31 15:56
9 replies
Vita releases comms videos, magisk is basically responsible for everything relevant Vita called to do. It's known from before that Shox is a great mid round caller and was actually IGL-ing pistol and eco rounds while mostly just calling regular rounds
2023-01-31 15:59
8 replies
the thing I dislike about these comms videos is that they generally don't showcase strategies/ gameplans that the IGL and coach have put together so while you see the good mid-round calls provided by players like magisk, you really miss out on the body of work the IGL puts into the game. the comms videos provide a heavily edited/ skewed version of what actually goes on in-game.
2023-01-31 16:07
7 replies
apex still yells what others say and yells it loudly the moment they say it, I do not see his input really. It's an extremely bad practice what he's doing, cluttering the comms for no obvious benefit. Also, noticed how gla1ve all of a sudden forgot how to IGL when magisk is now out?
2023-01-31 16:19
6 replies
You're not getting to "the truth" by drawing conclusions from heavily edited comms videos or coincidences. Take off your tinfoil hat youtu.be/Ssnw2GA657s
2023-01-31 18:36
5 replies
Who said that's the only thing? What did Apex do as IGL really? Vita does well when Zywoo hits 1.9 rating. That's it. Also listening to him talking about the game, like, people trash on Hooxi but even on his 1-st interview he sounded 100x more knowledgeable about the game than apex. More than that, because he used such simple words to explain complex situations - I've never heard Apex do that. Vita only won when single players over performed, Misutaa was really good at some RMR or something and finding anything, Shox was really clutch, zywoo always.... They never won with structure. Their last win was Zywoo with like 1.6 rating over entire tournament or something stupid high like that. Anyone can win with that (except Astralis when blameF has that rating cause he baits for it). Apex' description of his calls is that he does it when he feels it. That's it. No logic, no reason. It's my opinion that as an IGL Apex is a fraud at best. As a player he's an actual joke even for tier 4. If apex calls with his heart then there's no reason for Vitality to cut out his remarkably 1000IQ words because no one should be able to understand that - because it comes from the heart and not from any train of logical thinking. Point being, if there's 20 videos and on none of those Apex is anywhere near being a good caller - he's not a good caller. Listen to any others and compare.
2023-01-31 18:47
4 replies
0/8 you're reaching so far you could probably play all of Rachmaninoff's pieces with no trouble at all
2023-01-31 19:05
1 reply
imagine thinking mentally unstable guy can be a viable leader, that has worked in the past..... However, I do appreciate the effort on the metaphor
2023-01-31 19:15
#95
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United States Virgin Islands Mykolkaa
Nah man you could have just said you’re an apex hater but most of this is irrelevant at best and outright false at worst
2023-01-31 19:12
1 reply
+1
2023-01-31 19:41
funny you leave out the 2 igls that got mvps at the majors they won instead of igls that relied entirely on their team to carry except fallen and sometimes gla1ve
2023-01-31 13:08
11 replies
edit 3 igls, forgot about recent major mvp jame
2023-01-31 13:11
3 replies
fluke.
2023-01-31 13:13
2 replies
cope more in denial, dont give a fuck if you cry babies think it was or not
2023-01-31 13:13
1 reply
it was fluke
2023-01-31 13:27
"sometimes" lmao everyone was fragging in astralis
2023-01-31 13:20
#47
Lack1 | 
Russia bult0
realistically you can't put tark nowhere close to top-5. Happy maybe deserves it though
2023-01-31 13:35
3 replies
if hes bringing up solo igl performances then tarik should absolutely be there, very few igls have even gotten close to being mvp of a major so ignoring all 3 that actually did is just a travesty
2023-01-31 13:36
2 replies
#50
Lack1 | 
Russia bult0
i don't think he said a single word about performance
2023-01-31 13:37
1 reply
"Honorable Mention: Zeus had the best IGL performance ever at Krakow 2017 for Gambit but only 1 major era"
2023-01-31 13:39
Being an igl isn't about fragging. It's about using the team you have around you to win. That's why no team has 5 fraggers.
2023-01-31 14:41
tarik wasn't really igl of c9, it was shared between him and stewie2k and rush
2023-01-31 18:38
#5
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Ukraine Sneako
Where is Zeus?
2023-01-31 13:09
1 reply
read
2023-01-31 13:10
Hooxi where ?
2023-01-31 13:09
3 replies
He is the of all time Without IGL or anything
2023-01-31 14:37
I hope you are joking
2023-02-01 13:59
1 reply
He is GigaChad brother, He must be on list.
2023-02-01 14:29
honorable mentions: xizt, happy and also your order is shit :)
2023-01-31 13:09
11 replies
xizt also very good but objectively worse than pronax
2023-01-31 13:13
2 replies
#21 agreed
2023-01-31 13:14
1 reply
Is that a preemptive agreement?
2023-01-31 14:39
more like 1. gla1ve 2. karrigan 3. FalleN 4. Zeus 5. pronax ---------------------------------- HM: Xizt, Happy, tabsen
2023-01-31 13:14
7 replies
Respectable
2023-01-31 13:15
i feel like fallen should be 2 the impact he had on br cs cant be replicated he also was a decent awper that had massive impact on his team
2023-01-31 13:16
1 reply
we are only talking about pure igl skills here the fact that he was a good awper doesn't make him a better igl though i understand your point
2023-01-31 13:24
#58
tabseN | 
Germany Ann3
Good list actually. Also good mentions. Edit; Probably would set pronax over Zeus tho. But still #27.
2023-01-31 14:32
+1
2023-01-31 15:18
#80
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Serbia 1Savic1
bro putting karrigan over pronax 💀
2023-01-31 16:05
#90
HooXi | 
Germany eck0o
tabsen is bait literally the worst igl in a top 20 team at the moment.
2023-01-31 18:50
#10
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Slovakia VladO.
debatable, and very subjective, as we can't really compare them as they each had they peak during different metas
2023-01-31 13:10
2 replies
+1 rare person with brain spotted on hltv
2023-01-31 13:11
1 reply
true
2023-02-01 13:44
Where is Jame?
2023-01-31 13:10
where is snappi
2023-01-31 13:12
6 replies
do you think he deserves a spot over Karrigan or Gla1ve? Obviously not. Snappi isnt even top3 danish IGL
2023-01-31 13:14
3 replies
yes better than bottigan or botgla1ve
2023-01-31 13:14
karrigan and gla1ve are top2 but who's 3rd?
2023-01-31 18:39
1 reply
birdfromsky 8)
2023-01-31 19:57
#29
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Poland paputekk
he's bestest in my heart
2023-01-31 13:16
1 reply
+1
2023-01-31 13:16
Gla1ve obvious goat
2023-01-31 13:12
fallen above karrigan = reported
2023-01-31 13:14
12 replies
Karrigan's teamattes = Exodia, Thanos, Galactus, Jesus FalleN teamattes = fnx, taco, random brazilian child age 10 And FalleN still has more majors :D
2023-01-31 13:17
11 replies
Fallen team mate = 2 times top1 hltv karrigan team mate = w0xic fallen at 30 = washed up karrigan at 32 = leading best team in the world
2023-01-31 13:20
7 replies
Ok so we are using HLTV rankings? FalleN = #2('16) #6('17) Karrigan = Never ranked FalleN at 30 = 2 Major wins Karrigan at 32 = 1 Major win still GG fallen obviously better
2023-01-31 13:22
4 replies
No we are using hltv rankings for their teammates boombl4 at 23 = 1 major ex6tenz at 32 = 0 major So?
2023-01-31 13:23
tarik 1 major mvp and 1 major win and same number of top 20 appearances as karrigan, guess that makes them the same player huh?
2023-01-31 13:26
Karrigan = Never ranked Terrible bait, top 8 in 2011
2023-01-31 18:40
1 reply
hahahahahahhaha
2023-02-01 13:52
+1
2023-01-31 13:37
it's all about motivation. G2 wanted FalleN. But he winned everything, just want to play.
2023-01-31 13:37
by the way boombl4 has more majors than ex6tenz lmfao
2023-01-31 13:21
both teams had 4 top20 players in their team in fact, lg/sk had 2 top5 players while faze had none
2023-01-31 13:24
If those are karrigan's teammates, does that make peak coldzera god himself?
2023-01-31 13:25
No xizt not real list.
2023-01-31 13:33
Gla1ve is 1st its not even a debate its just pure cope if you think otherwise. 2nd toss up between Fallen Karrigan and Pronax.
2023-01-31 13:39
#55
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Brazil bruno_
in terms of titles and whatever gla1ve ofc, but in skill based, fallen was top 2 and igl at 2016, this is insane, how many others igl's come to top 20? top 10? top 5? yeah, fallen at his prime is probably the best skilled igl of all time.
2023-01-31 13:46
#59
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France P0vTr
>2. gla1ve / Astralis [Best CT side IGL] >3. Ex6tenZ / eNvyUs [Best T side IGL] >5. Karrigan / Astralis/FaZe [Best Roster-Building IGL] LEAVE THIS IDIOT ALONE
2023-01-31 14:34
steel over dazed or sean anyday
2023-01-31 15:01
#67
ropz | 
Finland wormi
1. karrigan, many different players, always reaches good results, stand-in adapting skills make him top to me 2. gla1ve, meta breaking innovator and unmatched results (with Astralis) 3. FalleN, motivation and tactics are sick, brought whole scene alive 4. Ex6TenZ, sick strats for T-side, unmatches at the tie after this its harder but the igls that imo had better teams than the sum of players was are Snappi, sAw, Golden
2023-01-31 15:19
KNG PLAY SOCCER?
2023-01-31 15:20
NEO from VP?
2023-01-31 15:27
ex6tenz never played for envyus also giga overrated never passed the groupstages of a major after the first major Happy was a way more succesful IGL in the french scene
2023-01-31 15:51
1. HooX1
2023-01-31 15:53
B1ad3 best strategic igl. Way ahead of anyone else ever. He just sucked individually.
2023-01-31 15:56
Karrigan is the best IGL of all time. His longevity is the reason why.
2023-01-31 16:00
#78
podi | 
Finland Tatuq
1. Aleksib 2. Aleksib0b 3. b0b 4. Biskela 5. Aleksi Virolainen
2023-01-31 16:02
I think the GOAT is either gla1ve (majors) or karrigan (consistency). But I think fallen has a very important skill that is undermine by people that doesnt speak portuguese : Teaching. Yes, I know all igls have to teach a little the players. But I think on fallen this skill is more developed than any other igl. He teaches even the brazilian community, not just his team, with hours of content analyzing demos from any teams, teaching the basics. He even had an "school" of counter strike in the end of cs 1.6 (Games Academy). And this is a important skill for a IGL
2023-01-31 16:25
1 reply
consistency? lmao karrigan is good in a new team for like 2-3 months and falls off afterwards, while gla1ve's team was no.1 for 3 years straight. AND ALSO YES, FLAIR CHECKS OUT
2023-01-31 19:15
Lol
2023-01-31 18:49
Karrigan has nothing to do with roster building in astralis, he joined a ready team. Maybe mousesports was the team you were looking for.
2023-01-31 18:54
1. gla1ve GOAT igl for now 2. Pronax for some reason people dont include this guy despite winning 3 majors 3. karrigan can make any team with good pieces into a title contender 4. Fallen The best to ever awp and igl, took the Brazilian scene to the next level 5. Zeus always makes his star players shine honorable mentions in order. Xizt Happy Neo/Taz ex6
2023-01-31 18:59
#93
JK | 
Asia flipflop
boombl1 boombl2 boombl3 boombl4 boombl5
2023-01-31 19:02
ur list doesnt make sense in every metric if we take into account achievements there is no way Ex6tenZ is above any of these if we take into account ability to igl there is no way karrigan is under half of them double digit iq moment
2023-01-31 19:25
Thats pretty much my emotional list at least
2023-01-31 19:40
not a bad list
2023-01-31 19:42
#102
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Serbia Cheerio23
1. karrigan 2. gla1ve 3. FalleN 4. pronax 5. Xizt
2023-01-31 19:45
1 reply
Correct
2023-02-01 13:56
1. Karrigan 2. Gla1ve 3. Zeus 4. B1ad3 5. s1mple
2023-01-31 19:49
1. Gla1ve 2. Karrigan 3. Pronax 4. Zeus 5. Xizt
2023-01-31 19:50
+1
2023-01-31 19:52
i think boombla should be in the honorary mentions, he won everything with navi even when zeus couldnt, with boombla and the addition of b1t they won katowice, cologne, balst world final twice, esl pro league, dreamhack, blast fall final and also intel grand slam he is not top 5 but honorary mention
2023-02-01 13:50
1. gla1ve 2. pronax 3. FalleN 4. Zeus 5. Xizt/Karrigan
2023-02-01 13:53
1 reply
I like this one +1
2023-02-01 14:13
#113
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Europe 0only1
Xizt > best at keeping it simple Ex6tenz > most innovative Pronax > best support Happy > best fragger Fallen > most impact Gla1ve > most successful Karrigan > best mid round
2023-02-01 14:05
1. gla1ve 2. pronax 3. karrigan 4. FalleN 5. Happy
2023-02-01 14:15
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