Forum thread: NAF disrespect

they will not say other players from other team is better than their player

2023-01-31 14:47

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True

2023-01-31 21:52

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especially when that other player is way worse.

2023-02-01 00:58

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2023-02-01 14:02

hahahahahaha sure kiddo xD

2023-01-31 14:47

They're both #1 in my heart :)

2023-01-31 14:47

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I´m more of a Naffer but yeah I still love them both aswell :)

2023-01-31 21:43

xddd

2023-01-31 14:47

cry is free

2023-01-31 14:47

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2023-01-31 21:29

b0t naf not even in top 20 < #11 Twistzz with the most amount of EVPs for a player in 2022

2023-01-31 14:48

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twistzz really had the most evp awards? that is pretty neat

2023-01-31 21:31

wow thats so great. the post said all time, not 2022. NAF has the most MVPs out of any player in NA, and he was 6th and 7th in the world in 2018 and 2019 respectively

2023-02-01 04:10

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Twistzz has never even placed higher than Brehzr on top 20

2023-02-01 07:48

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That’s not really an accurate way to say it. Twistzz highest ranking for any year is one less Brehze, but there’s been many years where Twistzz has been better. Brehze genuinely was worse than a T2 player last year

2023-02-01 08:07

American caring more about someone else’s country than their own. Classic.

2023-01-31 14:49

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flair checks out

2023-01-31 21:47

What the fuck is that flag combo and then I realized this is hltv.

2023-02-01 02:12

hello tenZ canadian too

2023-01-31 14:49

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who?

2023-01-31 14:49

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the greatest Canadian Counter-Strike player of all time

2023-01-31 14:50

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*Doesn't play counter strike and is not even on top of his form in valulrant

2023-02-01 02:27

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doesnt need to be in form or play the game to be the greatest of all time

2023-02-01 07:41

helloo me canadian too

2023-01-31 14:50

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but you're not tenZ

2023-01-31 14:51

Naf is just lurking merchant, twistz better any day of the week.

2023-01-31 14:49

their stock price is below the dollar i wouldnt take anything they say seriously

2023-01-31 14:50

naf 0 major twistzz 1 major ezpz twistzz bestest canadian cs player. btw HAHA to lulquid for chosing stewie2am over twistzz xD xD xD

2023-01-31 14:50

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Boombl4 1 major zywoo 0 major boombl4 > zywoo

2023-01-31 17:22

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I agree with this?

2023-01-31 22:56

Zywho the best choker in world. Bommbl4 the true chad Major winner.

2023-02-01 01:44

not like Twistzz left by his own will to Europe

2023-01-31 18:55

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team became toxic, didnt wanted to play with them anymore.

2023-01-31 19:40

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I think stewie was the only toxic one since he said in an interview that elige wasn't the problem and I doubt naf was toxic but also the other reason he left was cause he was very close with nitr0 and he switched to valorant

2023-01-31 22:49

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he said that because of his diet he needed to go to special restaurants and the team didnt wanted to go and stuff like that, which made him not feeling it anymore.

2023-01-31 22:51

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Also that yeah, either way he saved himself, naf should've left too..

2023-01-31 22:52

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just -stewie +fallen/nitro would have been the answer for liquid at the time to keep the core of naf, elige and twistzz. guess naf wont leave because he has liquid shares but idk.

2023-01-31 22:54

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Exactly, but the org had different ideas...

2023-01-31 22:54

what diet?

2023-02-01 04:05

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i dont know, he said it during the interview short after joining faze. all i remember is he said he cant/wont eat everything so he cant go to certain places and the team would always go the extra mile for him but at that time not anymore, which made him not welcome...

2023-02-01 12:36

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oh that sucks :(

2023-02-01 15:11

sadly tw0stz is better than passive af naf

2023-01-31 14:51

let them stay happy in their delusions , we all know NAF is the true NA GOAT.

2023-01-31 14:51

0see>>>>

2023-01-31 14:55

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do people are scared of Osee ? no.

2023-01-31 15:04

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ofc they are, hes a catastrophe playing

2023-01-31 15:07

My favorite canadian

2023-01-31 18:48

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dont play the smartass kid pal

2023-01-31 18:53

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LMAO ur the one that didn’t read the tweet

2023-01-31 21:48

>canadian

2023-01-31 23:34

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why am i not surprised that the chinese guy didnt get the joke?

2023-01-31 23:42

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where's the funny part

2023-01-31 23:43

You forgot that Canada is just an american province, like Hawai and Puerto Rico.

2023-02-01 01:45

okay NAF would be #2 i mean who cares

2023-01-31 14:55

Naf is definitely 2nd, it's not even close. Twistzz won a major, Katowice, and Cologne in a span of half a year. Also Twistzz is more versatile.

2023-01-31 14:58

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versatile? Nope, he sucked balls in Liquid in 2020 when he was facing role issues.

2023-01-31 15:00

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That's due to the bad system and bad leadership in Lulquid, he plays supportive roles in FaZe as well but Karrigan's system is better so Twistzz also plays better.

2023-01-31 15:10

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Whatever you say.

2023-01-31 17:21

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versatility isnt being able to bait in 1 team and still be meh.

2023-02-01 00:59

having shitty numbers when spending every round on passive lurk has nothing to do with versatility. in faze twistzz is doing pretty much everything: aggressive lurks, playing anchor roles, doing entries. he is definitely one of the most versatile players

2023-01-31 18:15

no main awper and dysfunctional team

2023-01-31 21:48

that team was dogshit and he was on 100 ping half the time

2023-02-01 00:57

Its true, after 2022.

2023-01-31 15:00

Everything NAF achieved twistzz did and more with his tenure in FaZe.

2023-01-31 15:03

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twistzz didn't achieve 6th and 7th in the world and he didn't achieve being the player with the most MVPs in NA either

2023-02-01 04:12

Do better

2023-01-31 15:15

NAF?? More like Not Able (to) Frag. AM i right

2023-01-31 15:18

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NAF stands for Nutty As Fuck

2023-01-31 17:21

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*nasty

2023-01-31 20:59

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it’s Nutty.

2023-01-31 22:35

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Wtfff just googled it and i was wrong Nutty af is so much lamer :((

2023-01-31 23:17

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Nah its NAF so its automatically badass

2023-02-01 11:01

twistzz is so much better

2023-01-31 15:20

Love NAF but Twistzz is the cream of the crop

2023-01-31 15:22

i can name few players better than twistzz sroud wardell steel semphis ocean davey

2023-01-31 15:30

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ahh yes everyones favorite player sroud. also this is the most delusional thing ive ever read, stop living in 2015

2023-01-31 23:47

Forgot tenz but pretty accurate

2023-02-01 01:41

goat ocean

2023-02-01 04:01

cry is free hahahaha

2023-01-31 15:35

People not realising that how they wrote means that, since they did welcome him two years ago, they already thought two years ago that Twistzz was better player than Naf. Thats the true crime here.

2023-01-31 15:41

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2023-01-31 17:19

Disgusting

2023-01-31 18:52

who has a major title?

2023-01-31 17:24

twistzz better looking twistzz more accomplished /closed

2023-01-31 18:55

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2023-01-31 19:43

All of NAF's achievements happened when Twistzz was in his team and it's pretty obvious which one of them had a better career since they split apart

2023-01-31 19:43

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Horrible argument bro. NAF has oSee and Nitro, Twistzz has Monesy and Karrigan

2023-01-31 21:01

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Damn I missed that m0NESY to FaZe transfer

2023-01-31 21:03

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Meant broky mb Too many cracked zoomer awpers man

2023-01-31 21:38

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Broky is 22 alreade and he s not cracked

2023-02-01 10:45

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22 is a zoomer, and i would consider top 6 to be cracked

2023-02-01 12:43

All the prizes that TL won, twistzz was the most crucial player. Send naf to faze and see how faze copes with him. Not even close the impact of twistzz

2023-01-31 21:28

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Then why exactly was NAF ranked higher in 2018 and 2019? Just out here rewriting history lmao

2023-01-31 21:40

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Because he plays better spots and better positions, plus he used the overpowered weapon called AWP (in a very passive and un-impactful way though). Do you think faze would drop twistzz to get naf?

2023-01-31 22:28

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In 2018 or 2019 for sure they would Also during liquid era NAF wasn’t the awper, Nitro was Get your facts straight brother

2023-01-31 22:45

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NAF was still 2nd awping on CT-side and no, faze wouldnt drop twistzz to get 2019 NAF when they have ropz lol

2023-01-31 22:56

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This was a hypothetical talking about skill level when Liquid had their era, not a serious discussion about team synergy And to be fair 2018-2019 NAF would definitely take priority over 2018-2019 Ropz Also being a second awp doesn’t give a player an unfair advantage lmao. NAF was 100% the better player during the liquid era, anyone disagreeing is just going off of current form

2023-01-31 23:29

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being a 2nd awp on CT and lurking as T is most definitely an advantage role-wise 2019 ropz vs 2019 naf is arguable though

2023-02-01 00:24

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Notice how you went from arguing that Twistzz was better to arguing that NAF being better was unfair bc of roles This would be like me saying that NiKo is better than S1mple because he’s not an awp abuser Also 2019 NAF was definitely better than ropz

2023-02-01 00:46

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not sure where you see me arguing about twistzz being better, i dont think he was better than naf in 2019 and once again, very arguable, ropz had better overall stats but placed lower due to liquid having a great year and mousesports not as much

2023-02-01 00:48

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NAF had better impact, ADR, DPR, and more MVP’s Also the original person i was arguing against (not you the random that popped in, but Maltin) was arguing that Twistzz was more important to Liquid’s success

2023-02-01 00:54

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hltv.org/news/28837/top-20-players-of-20.. hltv.org/news/28816/top-20-players-of-20.. ropz had the same impact, lower dpr, higher kpr, higher kast, higher rating (+ insane T-side rating)

2023-02-01 00:55

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Lower LAN impact, less MVP’s

2023-02-01 01:36

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still very similar stats, which is why i said its arguable

2023-02-01 01:42

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Similar stats but NAF multiple MVP’s Not arguable for anyone with a brain

2023-02-01 01:58

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ropz cant get mvp's when his team doesnt make finals

2023-02-01 01:58

these people delusional fr the only time twistzz was better than naf was that eleague event were he went crazy

2023-02-01 02:14

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dude like obviously modern twistzz is doing better but there's no need to rewrite history and pretend that twistzz was better than NAF his entire career

2023-02-01 03:48

what is wrong about that tweet ?

2023-01-31 19:44

NAF not even the best canadian in Liquid

2023-01-31 21:02

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+1 daps goated

2023-01-31 22:54

this is why prnt.sc/QhmGSE_Er_P- prnt.sc/z_6s-aZCC1oB

2023-01-31 21:04

Twistzz is a better fit for faze, so its a win win for everyone.

2023-01-31 21:25

Imagine thinking that NAF is better than Twistzz

2023-01-31 21:30

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in terms of all-time, yes he is.

2023-02-01 04:15

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Disagree, Naf is for sure good player and maybe even more versatile but not better in invidual terms and that is fact (in all-time and rn )

2023-02-01 08:19

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In all-time, twistzz has never even been higher than 9th in the world. NAF has been 6th and 7th. NAF has 3 more MVPs too.

2023-02-01 16:51

damn, time flies

2023-01-31 21:30

Top 3 Canadians 1. Casper "canadiaN" Møller 2. Russel "Twistzz" Van Dulken 3. Keith "NAF" Markovic

2023-01-31 21:34

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Casper "comediaN" Møller

2023-01-31 21:51

as much as i like NAF, twistzz is a better player overall, 2 years younger with +1 major, +1 trophy and +1 top20 placement only thing NAF has over him is +3 MVPs, but thats barely comparable since they play different roles

2023-01-31 22:54

2nd place is still honorable

2023-01-31 22:55

Twistzz > but naf held back by his team

2023-01-31 22:59

NAF is Serbian

2023-01-31 23:36

Twist better than NAF for sure

2023-01-31 23:43

nah twistzz is better, since he moved to faze he's on another level almost, yes i'm a niko fan but this guy's aim is something else

2023-02-01 00:48

NAF is better, twistzz is nothing without GOD Karrigan

2023-02-01 00:54

Twistzz better

2023-02-01 00:56

OCEAN numba 1

2023-02-01 00:58

He is better than NAF. The tweet checks out.

2023-02-01 01:07

okay

2023-02-01 02:10

nt, Twistzz goat

2023-02-01 02:31

NAF >>>

2023-02-01 04:02

slim margin between them but i think twistzz's major edges him past

2023-02-01 08:09

Put it this way, if i was building a line-up to be the best team in the world i know which player i would pick of the 2. Twiztzz is the better player, more well versed, unselfish, better attitude.

2023-02-01 10:47

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naf has a good attitude. they both like to pick their roles and are otherwise respectful

2023-02-01 11:05

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can tell you right now that is not the truth

2023-02-02 01:51

damn should’ve been ocean ikr

2023-02-01 10:48

both good in different ways. NAF wouldve also done well in faze no doubt

2023-02-01 11:04

I'm gonna say something that might blow your corrupted minds: both are great players and neither of them is necessarily better than the other, considering they play a team game.

2023-02-01 11:31