Forum thread: Let Astralis in

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2023-01-31 23:21

name doesnt check out also reported

2023-01-31 23:21

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Flair. You just want G2 to have an easy run without Astralis.

2023-01-31 23:22

KatoWHOice anyway Astralis GOATS

2023-01-31 23:22

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0/8

2023-01-31 23:34

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you got me

2023-01-31 23:36

that was such a bad pun, atleast say kawhowice

2023-02-01 17:33

out of the past 3 katos, the only winner that had to play astralis was navi in 2020, neither gambit nor faze played astralis and they both won and theres no asterisk for faze, a small one for gambit

2023-01-31 23:23

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GAMBIT winning 2021 Kato doesn't really count as it was an online event

2023-02-01 10:58

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2023-02-01 11:24

it was a kato in every way but location, seeding was the same, qualification was the same, prize pool was the same, coaching bans were already handed out and the ruleset had been changed

2023-02-01 19:11

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one word ONLINE

2023-02-03 09:38

2023-01-31 23:24

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2023-02-01 10:48

Lets kick the teams that earned their spot and replace them with an underperforming team who pays for their spot

2023-01-31 23:25

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flag EG doesn't deserve to be there for farming cash cups

2023-01-31 23:28

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eg made a deal with ESL that they could keep their slot if they invested in NA scene

2023-01-31 23:45

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katowice isn't partner invites, its ranking invites

2023-01-31 23:45

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and eg is a partner team with ESL where they are always playing EPL's and challengers leagues(old dreamhacks events) where they farm points for the big events lel

2023-01-31 23:46

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They got most of their points from NA cash cups, which give too many points in the first place

2023-01-31 23:47

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you tripping, those events dont enter for the esl ranking

2023-01-31 23:48

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pro.eslgaming.com/worldranking/csgo/team..

2023-01-31 23:50

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damn, thats crazy

2023-02-01 17:31

hltv.org/news/35272/astralis-iem-katowic.. tldr: "Considering the fact that Evil Geniuses and paiN will secure a sizeable number of points from the ESEA Autumn 2022 Cash Cup 7 North America as both have already locked in at least top-four finishes, they are likely to be ahead of Astralis in the ESL world rankings when Katowice spots are finalised."

2023-01-31 23:55

NA talking

2023-01-31 23:28

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sorry must be a mistake but I don't see any turks in Katowice, pls respond I must be wrong

2023-01-31 23:30

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Xantares would avg 2.7 rating in NA cashcups vs 35 yo streamers

2023-01-31 23:33

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Cope

2023-01-31 23:34

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hes not wrong though... na cash cup is on the level of lilmix or some shit like thats top200 teams playing eachother

2023-02-01 00:08

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That isn't the point tho, Australis could've done the same thing

2023-02-01 00:11

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no astralis cant play NA cash cups

2023-02-01 00:14

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Why not? They could have gotten some fake US IDs and grab those precious points needed to qualify!

2023-02-01 00:23

you're right, kick paiN or EG because all they had to do to earn points was beat Mythic and Vendetta in NA cash cups lul

2023-01-31 23:29

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maybe Astralis should win their events, paIN got there by winning, Astralis need to earn their spot

2023-01-31 23:32

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They did have some decent results but lost a lot of their points as far as I understood from using the two new players in the lineup (device and buzz).

2023-02-01 00:25

Maybe Astralis should try to be less shit first. This is exactly why we like ESL more than Blast, ESL truly cares about having competitive scene overall.

2023-01-31 23:26

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yeah that's why ATK are #16 in the world and Nouns are #19 in the world according to esl rankings xd (same rankings that determined the invites to this event) can't wait for mythic to be top 30 in the world for being 4th in the cash cup

2023-01-31 23:29

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#17 EG/Col/Mibr and pain lmaoo

2023-01-31 23:35

Yes? Unless NA teams and European teams get to play each other, we can only guess which one is better. They just weight events differently than hltv.

2023-01-31 23:42

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even if paiN/EG could not participate in Katowice, you'd have teams like ATK or Nouns taking their spot based on the world ranking, instead of teams like EF, SAW, Copenhagen Flames, etc

2023-01-31 23:44

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This will always be the case, as long as any TO wants to keep America scene alive. Even majors have this, though not to this level.

2023-01-31 23:46

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"as any TO wants to keep America scene alive" they're doing the exact opposite of that as many teams forfeited the CCT NA Series tournament in order to play a fucking cash cup, as the latter gives way more points. Good reason for any TO to steer away from NA when their tournaments are indirectly devalued by the leading TO in the ecosystem

2023-01-31 23:48

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Well your previous comment was about comparison between Elisa Masters and Na event. Now you are comparing two NA events. Thats different topic of course and should never happen like this.

2023-01-31 23:50

pro.eslgaming.com/worldranking/csgo/rank.. Lmaooo

2023-01-31 23:31

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What is your point? Isn't it generally good that they have a ranking that they follow?

2023-01-31 23:36

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Not when their rankings are dogshit and they literally value Elisa Masters (tier 1.5 LAN) the same as a fucking NA Cash Cup that includes like 3 professional teams

2023-01-31 23:45

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Well yes, but this thread is about Astralis missing Katowice and my comment was about ESL being better than Blast in this since Blast would never drop any team because they are shit.

2023-01-31 23:48

All Katowices since Astralis won 2019 has Asterisk 2020=Studio 2021=Online 2022=War

2023-01-31 23:28

its their own fault that they aren't there

2023-01-31 23:28

nah astralis wouldn't have won anyway

2023-01-31 23:30

+1 Astralis always bestets

2023-01-31 23:33

no Asstralis, no party big L

2023-01-31 23:33

+1 dev1ce GOAT

2023-01-31 23:36

Yeah lets invite the team with two bots that have no chance to win anyway. Great idea

2023-01-31 23:37

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Astralis owns NIP

2023-02-01 00:06

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Lmao no

2023-02-01 07:16

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Where is NIP in blast spring??

2023-02-01 09:58

Congrats on beating nip with a stand in Lmfao

2023-02-01 10:07

+1 those teams in playin are joke

2023-01-31 23:51

Mate, this tournament in not invitation based. You have to qualify for it. Astralis did not. They will have their chances in other tournaments.

2023-02-01 00:10

why cant they qualify?

2023-02-01 00:18

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An article from one and a half month ago: dust2.us/news/32753/an-na-cash-cup-could.. What they describe in it happened.

2023-02-01 00:22

because they fucked themselves by kicking players who held points in the ESL ranking system and picking up players who brought no points to the team.

2023-02-01 10:46

They dropped the chance 1-2 to cph flames

2023-02-01 17:34

that's cause modern Astralis is dead, their era is well & truly ended. They won't win a top tier event this year, and you can bookmark this statement as its facts <3

2023-02-01 00:26

IHC is way better than current AST

2023-02-01 10:01

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ok then kick MIBR

2023-02-01 16:41

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mibr also better than astralis

2023-02-01 19:17

C-C-C-C-C-C-COPE

2023-02-01 10:18

astralis shit esl rankings shit /closed

2023-02-01 10:26

Astralis has been bad since dev1ce left, they look better now even though they're a 2 man team. They have to grind their way back to earn these spots after dropping too low to qualify - seems fair! Devve left to prove that he can win without astralis but he mostly proved that astralis can't win without him lol

2023-02-01 10:32

I think the points are collected by the players. not the team itself. And with a new player like Dev1ce, who havent been playing for a year, they didnt reach enough points to go to Kato. Or am I wrong?

2023-02-01 10:31

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youre right. its devices fault

2023-02-01 10:54

+1 Probably most definitely the best thread ive ever seen on hltv. I suggest kicking mibr.

2023-02-01 10:32

Let me in

2023-02-01 10:47

2023-02-01 10:48

nobody cares about the biggest paycheck stealer in csgo ever 0/8

2023-02-01 11:30

I agree but when u sucked that much last year not much to do, they got their chances

2023-02-01 17:32

How come beating 2023 Astralis is needed to make a victory legitimate. Tier 2 team.

2023-02-01 17:35

Astralis come out after Finals as Finals Boss. It would best of 7 of 7. Team will consist of Dev1ce, BlameF and 3 of the Best players who the even who didn't made it to the Finals. - Director of Game Development, IEM.

2023-02-01 17:37

Permita, Aurora and Monte said they are better

2023-02-01 17:37

Imagine not inviting the 2017 and 2019 champions of Katowice....

2023-02-01 19:13

Why would esl give them spot when they can't even qualify?

2023-02-01 19:14