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Sprout trash
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Italy PavlushaK1ng 
what's wrong with sprout? On paper they have not bad squad that can consistently be in the top 15, but their game and results are a complete disappointment.
2023-02-02 22:04
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#1
stavn | 
Russia zoreftw
trash igl + new sniper
2023-02-02 22:05
12 replies
#3
NEO | 
Poland sansgranie
+1
2023-02-02 22:05
#13
Jame | 
United States Stanislavv
whos igl
2023-02-02 22:13
1 reply
#17
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United States camilowidehead
refrezh
2023-02-02 22:16
#27
Buzz | 
Other roeJ_fan
Honestly trash sniper too, he's slaxz 2.0. Slaxz used to be great on t3 too before joining sprout
2023-02-02 22:33
3 replies
#37
lauNX | 
Switzerland MESSI_0_BENCH
xellow rating before joining sprout: 1.30 +
2023-02-02 23:17
2 replies
#44
Canada Jockonet
Like Osee and Torzi before they join a team who compete constantly against t1 opponents.
2023-02-02 23:58
#51
Buzz | 
Other roeJ_fan
I can name a lot of awpers who had 1.20 - 1.30 ratings before shitting the bed on t1
2023-02-03 00:37
#29
s1mple | 
Romania razvand73
guys just give Xellow some time on team, he s here just for 2 weeks, he will prove himself, trust me
2023-02-02 22:35
3 replies
#43
Canada Jockonet
Pray for regali. Xellow is a t3 smurfer.
2023-02-02 23:57
#45
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Russia sexiestuser
xellow is ass, i don’t know why you hype him up more than regali meanwhile regali is like 2x better
2023-02-02 23:59
#53
s1mple | 
Romania razvand73
In fact, Xellow was far better than regali when they played in local competitions, as I said, he needs time, but for now you are right to say anything u want
2023-02-03 00:43
#82
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Spain Wiricardo
respect refrezh and his boys
2023-02-03 01:45
#2
Israel avivpro13
just added a new awper give them some time to figure out chemistry
2023-02-02 22:05
1 reply
#83
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Spain Wiricardo
+mantuu???
2023-02-03 01:45
#4
Perfecto | 
United States Burnak
I think the main issue is that refrezh can't igl cause that isnt his normal role
2023-02-02 22:06
1 reply
#5
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Italy PavlushaK1ng
+1 he's an experienced dude, but I think they lack a profile igl.
2023-02-02 22:07
#6
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Russia hstlgdv
that would be enough to put down spirit though
2023-02-02 22:08
7 replies
#7
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Italy PavlushaK1ng
I really don't think so, most likely easily 2-0 for team spirit like in Rio major
2023-02-02 22:09
6 replies
#28
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Russia hstlgdv
they have tremendous choke capability and they arent in form right now. remember that they lost to saw bo3 and bo5 1.5 months ago and to nip (not a team but rather a mix of players) 2-0 in bo3 yesterday
2023-02-02 22:35
5 replies
#32
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Italy PavlushaK1ng
It was online, brother. On lan this sprout has no chance.
2023-02-02 23:04
3 replies
#39
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Russia hstlgdv
so what? it wasnt random bo1, neither bo3. It was two games bo3 and bo5 in a row, threrfore they arent able simply to adjust. And why do you present in spirits favor the fact that its lan? Sprout showed something in rio rmr having become major legend.
2023-02-02 23:25
2 replies
#40
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Italy PavlushaK1ng
Do you remember what spirit did with sprout on that major?
2023-02-02 23:37
1 reply
#49
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Kosovo LeeTsAuCE
WOW yeah they've played 4v5 with fcking slaxz
2023-02-03 00:33
#38
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Jordan Ksokhtakenta
As #32 said i think spirit are lanners.
2023-02-02 23:19
#8
kennyS | 
Norway Olemannen
eg trasher
2023-02-02 22:09
1 reply
#10
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Italy PavlushaK1ng
Yeah, but no hopes have been placed on EG for a long time
2023-02-02 22:10
#9
Romania vortic
a combination of factors, most notably the recent addition of a tier 3 awper and an inexperienced igl; communication issues are also likely
2023-02-02 22:10
1 reply
#18
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Italy PavlushaK1ng
I think it's also about the young trio (launx, staerh, zyphon) in matches against top teams, they can't shoot in synergy, someone always falls out, maybe it's worth taking the profile igl in place of one of them, and refreshz will take on the more familiar role of support.
2023-02-02 22:16
#11
honda | 
Congo, Democratic Republic of zne_
they beat top3 team of NA and you call them trash smh my head 🙄
2023-02-02 22:10
1 reply
#12
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Italy PavlushaK1ng
Sry, am dumb
2023-02-02 22:11
#14
cry | 
Iceland Adriano_onairdA
Ok?????? Push the tempo (c) Sprout's T side.
2023-02-02 22:13
#15
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
Staehr should have just gone to Astralis.
2023-02-02 22:15
5 replies
#23
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Romania Nickname90
and launx to ence?
2023-02-02 22:18
4 replies
#24
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
Not sure. OG maybe... they need some fire power and developing under nexa as a secondary caller will do wonders for his career.
2023-02-02 22:27
3 replies
#25
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United Kingdom v2raider
-valde + lau will be amazing
2023-02-02 22:29
2 replies
#30
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
His performance against T1 is a varied and considering he is just 17. I would prefer for him to be at a place where pressure immediate results doesn't fall directly on him. ENCE doesn't feels like that places because they need a superstar and I think he isn't quite ready to be THE SUPERSTAR. In an year or two yes.... definitely.
2023-02-02 22:45
#36
detinate | 
Iceland Greedo
valde has been all they asked of him
2023-02-02 23:11
#16
Finland vjlle
EG shitting the bed is a lottery ticket for sprout lmao
2023-02-02 22:15
6 replies
#19
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United Kingdom Bullitead
From 12-5 up to fighting to stay in the series at 13-13 lmao.
2023-02-02 22:17
1 reply
#22
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Norway FAZE_FAN_FROM_EU
13-14
2023-02-02 22:18
#20
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Italy PavlushaK1ng
++spirit gonna smash them
2023-02-02 22:17
3 replies
#21
Finland vjlle
easy
2023-02-02 22:18
#26
Poland ojoijiojo
spirit is a fucking joke tbh
2023-02-02 22:31
1 reply
#46
Canada Jockonet
Imagine Sprout won because Eg choke, not because they were the better team. Sprout need some extra redbull to win against spirit tomorrow.
2023-02-03 00:00
#31
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Denmark BlindZenDriver
The players need time to get good together. Also - they just took EG 2-0, so does that make EG worse than trash?
2023-02-02 23:00
29 replies
#34
JDC | 
Germany Janschik
yes
2023-02-02 23:08
#35
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Sweden CharlesEmilNilsson
Very much so.
2023-02-02 23:11
#41
Canada Jockonet
I guess you didnt watch the game or you're blind (name check out). It was not convincing at all. Eg choked on both maps. They were on the driving seat on ancient and lost to a force buy in a horrible fashion. 5 rounds on ct side. 12-5 on mirage. Sprout is dogshit. Xellow is slightly better than slaxz but he takes more space. So, he is a slaxz 2.0 or a torzi on lan Sprout are overated, there are a t2 team on their best days. Launx and Staehr are promising, but rn, both are doing silly mistakes.
2023-02-02 23:56
26 replies
#47
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Norway mateide
Not biased at all btw
2023-02-03 00:21
21 replies
#48
Canada Jockonet
You are joking. Sprout is not heroic or even Astralis. Did you watch the game ? They were outstratted by EG. Man, do you consider them a t1 team ? They are t2 my friend. They have potential t1 players but they suck as a team. Xellow is a slaxz 2.0 with more flashy shots. Same noob gamesense, t3/t2 smurfer like Osee.
2023-02-03 00:34
20 replies
#50
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Norway mateide
I watched the game yes. Dont really think they got outstratted. Like Launx said, refrezh called a loose T-side and it work perfectly against EG. No I dont consider sprout or EG a tier 1 team. I think all the players are pretty good. Xellow is unproven and i dont think he was the right pick, but you are beeing way to harsh on them. They made it to the major. I think they should be happy about their trackrecord as a pretty new team
2023-02-03 00:35
19 replies
#52
Canada Jockonet
Called a loosed t-side. They run down and they cannot handle because they have hext who is totally dogshit. Sprout looked promising, but now after few games, I'm not so sure. Xellow didnt look like a "future pro". I'm maybe wrong, but It looked like a future gamerlegions. A miracle run and then, nothing. On ancient, they were outstrated by Nealan. Lurks, mid calls, they were on the back foot the whole match. 10 t side on mirage, they were outstratted too. The loose style, it because they win duel basically, because brehze is kinda washed and Hext, i'm not even defending him.
2023-02-03 00:41
18 replies
#54
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Norway mateide
You should blame the Org, not the players. Hext is not dogshit, he is a tier 2 NA player and was thrown into a team playing vs tier 1 teams. I dont know why you feel the need to shit on him, he dont have tier 1 experience, it would be a suprise if he didnt bottom frag almost every game. EG just dont have the right people in charge, they could build such a good team, but the one making decision about the CS division is clueless.
2023-02-03 00:44
17 replies
#55
Canada Jockonet
I shit on hext as a player, not as an individual. They tried him, he gives his best, but this is clearly not enough. EG have 15 players, try an another player. He is not a good anchor and I feel his hype/talk shit can ruin the atmosphere too. Viz, jeorgesnots can remplace him. Hext is a t2 na player, I don't think he is really t2 (EU). Wiz look more promising. He is not a t1 awper, but he brings more IMO. Same for Osee, I would like him to become a t1 awper. I feel mecanically speaking, he is not that far, but he is nervous and his gamesense is not there sometimes. Ex. Holding common angles against t1 team
2023-02-03 00:51
16 replies
#56
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Norway mateide
I agree on that. I just dont think they should have 3 teams wich cant play agianst each other in NA tournements and quals. If they want to boost NA CS there is better ways doing it.
2023-02-03 00:50
14 replies
#59
Canada Jockonet
2 teams is okay. They should kicked some players and keep two rosters IMO.
2023-02-03 00:52
13 replies
#60
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Norway mateide
Idk, it must really suck beeing on the roster who cant play the open quals for the RMR.
2023-02-03 00:55
1 reply
#62
Canada Jockonet
Yeah, but at least they can play other events in EU. Homesweet cups and stuff like that.
2023-02-03 00:56
#64
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Norway mateide
Get smooya for viz would be good imo. He have played in NA before and no language barrier. Idk who could take Hext place, maybe JeorgeSnorts, but they would have to mix up the roles again
2023-02-03 00:58
10 replies
#66
Canada Jockonet
Smooya in a NA look be epic tbf. Him and the hallzerk fit " for a NA team. I agree about Smooya but I doubt it he wants too.
2023-02-03 00:59
9 replies
#68
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Norway mateide
I think he would. His ego needs to play pro CS. Hallzerk has not preformed as I expected tho. Good clutches today but against t3 team
2023-02-03 01:01
8 replies
#70
Canada Jockonet
I agree. Hallzerk almost look like a weak link in COL. JT, the coach and him, they are not really impressive. Fang gamesense is off too.
2023-02-03 01:02
7 replies
#75
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Norway mateide
I think grim, fang and floppy bring decent firepower. JT is a good IGL imo, but lacks too much in the fragging department. If hallzerk starts to preform like he did in DIG this team will be really fun to watch
2023-02-03 01:13
6 replies
#76
Canada Jockonet
JT is decent, but somehow ,their ct side is so bad. I feel they lack structures more than anything else. Protocols, good setups, calculated pushes, etc. Their comms are sometimes painful to listen.
2023-02-03 01:16
5 replies
#77
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Norway mateide
Ye, thats kinda weird. Seems to be pretty normal in NA that their T side is stronger than CT. Liquid is the exception
2023-02-03 01:17
4 replies
#80
Canada Jockonet
even liquid, inferno ct side is weak. vertigo ct side is awful. Nuke, it is too soon to comment imo. Their only stable ct side is mirage, overpass and anubis.
2023-02-03 01:37
3 replies
#86
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Norway mateide
Lets go COL!!
2023-02-03 23:04
2 replies
#87
Canada Jockonet
Yeah I was impressed. Ence is not ultra strong. The core riflers is not at the same level than COLé
2023-02-03 23:27
1 reply
#91
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Norway mateide
"If hallzerk starts to preform like he did in DIG this team will be really fun to watch". I told you man :P Nah fr If fang and floppy can join grim in beeing consistant they will be a really scary team when Hallzerk perform like this. His ceiling is super high
2023-02-03 23:31
#92
United States Illusi0n1g
I agree osee blows hard... Give someone else a chance to awp for the team. How do you get a whole year to develop and still not produce?
2023-02-03 23:38
#69
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Denmark BlindZenDriver
I watched some of the game, saw some good moves and some less so. As I wrote - they need time to get good together, this then of course also implies there is room for improvement. However as them being overrated how do you figure, like for start what rating are you referring to? I think their ranking as #20 between Complexity and EG i justified and matches what team is right now, are you saying it is not? And if so then how about Complexity or EG?
2023-02-03 01:02
3 replies
#73
Canada Jockonet
I mean. Sprout is a t2 team, but somehow, some ppl think they will beat constantly t1 teams. COL need 1 or 2 change IMO. Either the igl or coach or both. Their comms are awful and honestly, their ct side is really weak. Fang has sharp aim, but not the gamesense to back it up. Grim and Floppy are the only t1,5 (t1 on good day) players. EG : like Cadian said, they are one or two change away to become a good team (t1,5 / t2). - Hext, -Brehze if you have a proven player to replace him.
2023-02-03 01:10
2 replies
#78
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Denmark BlindZenDriver
Well okay, however you replied to my comment saying they were overrated which sort of implied I was overrating them. Question is though - if you're ranked #20 are you then a T2 team. If so then when is a team a T1 - would that be like the top 5?
2023-02-03 01:20
1 reply
#79
Canada Jockonet
IMO top10 for t1 is almost a stretch concept of t1. T1 should be the title contenders. And not many teams are titles contender rn. Heroic, faze, g2 are t1. Vitality, Navi, Liquid should be t1 in theory. Mouz, Furia, Outsiders can definelty squeeze there too. It is not a science, but I feel top20 as t1 is really generous.
2023-02-03 01:41
#33
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Italy PavlushaK1ng
Look at sprout players and then look at eg players. Victory does not smell, but it was very hard for the sprout. Edit: reply #31
2023-02-02 23:08
3 replies
#42
Canada Jockonet
Honestly, EG should close both maps. Sprout is really dogshit. If they had an another player than Hext, I think eg could have win.
2023-02-02 23:55
2 replies
#58
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Kosovo LeeTsAuCE
"both maps" only rounds they took on their map pick were pistol round, anti eco and brehze's clutch (he clearly won that one by himself), the team is just dogshit, not only hext (he's the worst one in the roster tho, I have to give that one to you) and their wins on blast literally shows nothing, if they pick a map and lose it from 12 5 on the strong side
2023-02-03 00:53
1 reply
#61
Canada Jockonet
Eg is dogshit, but honestly, they choked, 10 rounds on t side is more than good. Ancient, they were on the driving seat, but they rushed on a stacked bombsite like silvers. They lost 2 v 1 the round before. Sprout won, but EG chokes. I'm not impressed by sprout. I thought they were a t1.5 team, but more and more, I feel the limit of this team is t2.
2023-02-03 00:57
#57
flying | 
Germany BadboyJohnny
Enough to beat EG apparently
2023-02-03 00:51
5 replies
#63
Canada Jockonet
which is not impressive by any standards, specially how EG managed to choke.
2023-02-03 00:58
4 replies
#65
flying | 
Germany BadboyJohnny
Sprout's inner chakra led EG to choke, it was their heavenly power that made it possible
2023-02-03 00:59
3 replies
#67
Canada Jockonet
ahah I guess. but man, Sprout looked so lost and plz, eg, kick Hext. It is friendly fire, but man, he is not ready for t1 or t2. cs
2023-02-03 01:01
2 replies
#71
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Germany BadboyJohnny
tenZ is ready to get subbed in
2023-02-03 01:06
1 reply
#74
Canada Jockonet
haha or even better, Stewie2k. The return of the ... king.
2023-02-03 01:09
#72
Romania trakae
people are already sh%%% on a new team who had positive results last year , who was formed from great scouting . They are already a success . Stick to your crying at bets hltv .
2023-02-03 01:07
3 replies
#81
Canada Jockonet
It is okay to defend your countryman. Honestly, Sprout win, but it doesn't look promising rn. Also, like Osee, Xellow has to step up if he wants to beat t1 opponents. He has more space than Slaxz but he doesn't really deliver. So, right now, it is a waste of space.
2023-02-03 01:43
1 reply
#85
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Romania bLaZe_420
Without xellows 3 k in the CT pistol round on ancient in 3v5 situation they wouldn't have won that map, slaxz could never do that. The problem is that refrezh is still new to in game leading, the comms are hectic and the style of play is not polished. Keep in mind that the average player age is 20.5 yo but that doesn't seem to factor in to some people. With all of that they almost beat OG and beat EG on LAN, idk what you want from them dude
2023-02-03 12:47
#84
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Italy PavlushaK1ng
how did the team degrade so much with the arrival of a "stronger sniper" that it miraculously beats the dead EG?
2023-02-03 11:39
#88
h4rn | 
Czech Republic SECOND_BIGGEST_H4RN_FAN
Forsy would destroy spirit
2023-02-03 23:30
#89
regali | 
Romania g4briela
xellow needs time and refrezh normal role is not igl
2023-02-03 23:30
#90
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Hungary szia
patsi happened
2023-02-03 23:31
#93
MAJ3R | 
Turkey EF_1_MAJ3R_NIKO__0_MAJOR
Sprout finished
2023-02-03 23:39
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