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Serbia eliiiiii_ 
proof that awping is simply the easier role to not look bad at watching this guy play is really hard but his rating is always high because of the point and click gun that his entire team saves so he can use it one more time make him rifle a tier 1 match and he'd go 0.50
2023-02-03 01:35
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Huh? He is looking pretty decent, i say he could be a decent awper in a few months
2023-02-03 01:38
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#2
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Serbia eliiiiii_
his decision making is simply plain bad
2023-02-03 01:39
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For an awper who played in NA all his life id say its actually pretty good. Ofc he is not zywoo/s1mple/device lmao
2023-02-03 01:41
Yeah and playing against tier 1 it will probably help him, he can improve a lot in this semester. But who knows
2023-02-03 01:41
cool story. if you make the goalie the main goal scorer he most likely will have bad shooting stats too.
2023-02-03 01:40
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#8
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Serbia eliiiiii_
good rifling is key for awpers these days, we're 7 years past the time where people played crutch awp and landed on top teams
2023-02-03 01:41
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it helps for sure, being versatile helps in any competition. headtrick, monesy, zywoo, cadian, broky, ect, are all good with multiple guns but there are also kinda still a few crutch awpers on a few teams, like jame, osee, and i might even put torzi on that list.
2023-02-03 01:46
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#17
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Serbia eliiiiii_
torzsi is not a top player in any sense as for the rest, oSee had a decent amount of rifle plays in Liquid's best runs, idk about ame
2023-02-03 01:47
ngl whenever i watch osee, he looks better rifling than awping
2023-02-03 02:13
Oh and: Niko proof that rifling is simply the easier role to not look bad at watching this guy play is really hard but his rating is always high because of the point and click oneshot headshot gun that his entire team saves so he can use it one more time make him awp a tier 1 match and he'd go 0.80
2023-02-03 01:40
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0/8
2023-02-03 01:41
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he is right. Awping is not that easy in t1. Except zywoo, simple (and even him rn), broky and shiro, all awpers are struggling. Device can return to this list too. Headtrick maybe too.
2023-02-03 01:55
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#23
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Serbia eliiiiii_
i never said it's easy but if your entire team is struggling, you as the awper will have the most chance to actually find kills regardless of the skill level if we're talking about high impact awping in teams with actual aspirations to win, it's obviously hard, but still easier than the roles of at least 2 riflers in the team
2023-02-03 01:59
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Thats where I disagree, I think its easier to find impact as a rifler than as a main awp in t1/t2. Not talking about awping on faceit or low level teams, also secondary awping dpesnt count. Its incredibly hard to step up to the task as a main awp at the highest level
2023-02-03 02:22
it isnt easy, but you can give the awp to most pro players and they will be able to atleast have around 1.0 rating, especially considering you will probably save alot, so less deaths for you. even karrigan will probably have a rating higher than 1.0 if you give him the awp
2023-02-03 10:24
XDDD +1
2023-02-03 02:39
awpers usually do have better ratings yes but wiz doesnt actually have a high rating xd
2023-02-03 01:41
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#11
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Serbia eliiiiii_
i mean higher than the eye test would tell you
2023-02-03 01:42
#13
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France Ansi
wiz was already being mentioned for months when playing with the other EG formation. he was consistently performing well, and deserved this spot much, much more than Cerq. idk why you have to be such an incredible DICK about him here and now, but imo just give him the chance and some time.
2023-02-03 01:44
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#15
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Serbia eliiiiii_
because he sucks when i watch him and he has no excuse because he's getting paid a massive bag in a team with partner slots i don't want to watch shitters every blast/epl season over and over and over and over again
2023-02-03 01:45
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#18
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France Ansi
tbh, i'd rather give wiz this chance than watching Cerq playing poor for another year. most csgo players can only dream of playing for EG, wiz made it reality and im pretty sure he will develop even further.
2023-02-03 01:49
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#20
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Serbia eliiiiii_
bro you don't even understand the amount of money EG has to spend they can hire so many prospects and they resort to their B team which has, despite the fact i really like those guys, shown nothing that should make the management believe that they can compete in tier 1 consistently the way they should incooperate these rookies is with 4 solid players, not build the foundation of the team with rookies because it's bound to fail
2023-02-03 01:53
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#24
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France Ansi
ngl you kinda sound like kassad to me. wiz developed pretty rapidly in a practically DEAD scene. What happens at EG is actually a good way of showing that you can still become pro in NA imo. We all know what happened to the old EG lineup. i'd rather see them invest in NA potentials like wiz than just buying more EU kids. its just better in the long run, especially if you care about the local NA scene.
2023-02-03 02:02
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#26
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Serbia eliiiiii_
the problem is that there is a clear disconnect in level between their main team and their other two teams, EG Black and EG White, which exist to develop talent and compete at a lower level the reason being is that those teams are not one tier below what the main team should be, but like 3 tiers below, and i can't see how throwing players from there into a team that's supposed to be tier 1 is a good idea and how it's ever gonna work out if they want this project to actually yield something, they gotta work on all 3 teams at o once there rookies won't miraculously reach a high level, even 100x better players than them like torzsi are showing clear problems competing at a tier 1.5 level on a consistent basis after having shown promise
2023-02-03 02:07
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#27
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France Ansi
so, you decided to make a late night thread to PISS on wiz, but in fact it comes down to you disliking the EG management? you are either related to kassad, sitting in the same room with him right now, drinking the same alcohol he does, or you ARE kassad. time to crawl under those greasy bed sheets buddy. good night!
2023-02-03 02:13
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#29
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Serbia eliiiiii_
you're bouncing over topics left and right hoping that i'll forget that you totally shit the bed 3 times talking nonsense about topics you have no idea about
2023-02-03 02:14
paid a massive bag ? Players don't get the color of the money fortheir partner slots. Do you really EG pay them a high salaries rn ? Eg hates is getting ridiculous. They don't win but they are not that horrible. They lost mostly because of nerves and because they have hext in their team. You should stop repeat Kassad's speak and thing by yourself.
2023-02-03 01:53
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#21
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Serbia eliiiiii_
massive bag, yes he's getting paid at least 5-10k a month knowing NA orgs which is absolutely insane for a meh player not to mention that the players usually receive nearly all the prize money
2023-02-03 01:55
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5-10K is not massive in here, man. I hate the old EG with stan or with Stewie. They were not even trying. This lineup try and play decent round cs. They make Sprout look like a bad team. They choke, they do stupid mistakes, but it is still fun to watch. You transfert your hate toward Hext into a player who play t1 cs for 1 month. Hext's banter is stupid and he doesn't cheer when his team need the most. Kick Xellow then too. He is steaing paycheck since he has to be like zywoo.
2023-02-03 02:19
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#31
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Serbia eliiiiii_
60 to 120k a year absolutely is massive playing a video game in a competitively irrelevant team with absolutely no pressure to win and rarely having to travel
2023-02-03 02:20
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They travel a lot. You should leave this thread for any t2 EU teams who play online events at home. Many sports and esports have huge salaries. They are not getting degrees while playing video games. It is a good income, that's sure, but I don't know what do you expect. Don't give them salary for playing a videogame outside of their home. Or they should apologize to eliiiii_ for not playing good for his standard.
2023-02-03 02:25
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#34
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Serbia eliiiiii_
bruh you're making them sound like the victims i'm the viewer that makes them their bag in a sense and i don't want to have to watch them be the punching bag every partnered event, formulate the same plastic interviews, tweets etc. before and after games and don't deliver on having a massive headstart which are the partner slots the fact i'm talking about this alone doesn't mean that i'm parasocially thinking i'm relevant in their life, but there are a million people thinking like i am and you're only defending them because they represent your region
2023-02-03 02:26
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You sound them like they stole something. So, its' even. I don't like the EG management, but the players come to play and try. They train, they try to upset teams. So, I don't see why you should blame players, specially wiz for that. No, i'm not defending because it is my region, I'm defending the hate toward the players of my region, nuance there. Hext is dogshit, Fang has sharp aim but a bad gamesense. Elige should be technically way better. Osee is not delivering and should be kick if it is continue. Nitro is decent, but I won't be mad if they change him. I don't like Twistz (personality-wise), but he is a sharp player.
2023-02-03 02:32
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#45
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United States Boarding
I am just as confused as you are on elige's 2022 performance. Here's hoping he turns it around this year, I'd love to see niko-levels of rifling out of him.
2023-02-03 02:54
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Me 2. I know he can be at that level, but somehow, he is still deceiving. He is still getting titled. Being a Liquid fan is like riding a roller coaster. You want to have expectations, but you also want to stop watching pro cs for that reason :/
2023-02-03 03:02
If I follow your logic, everyone should hate Device, BlameF, glaive, because Astralis management is not really clean.
2023-02-03 02:35
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#39
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Serbia eliiiiii_
it's almost as if dev1ce is not comparable to wiz
2023-02-03 02:36
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Ok, so let's make hate 25 treads on buzz and astralis. Buzz doesn't deserve his salary. He is stealing money from the poor dane. Wiz is not a device, but EG is not Astralis too. Also, Torzi, nicodooz are not playing t1 cs rn. So, do you think they don't deserve their salary too ?
2023-02-03 02:40
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#42
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Serbia eliiiiii_
buzz is obviously not fit to play there, ust like wiz in EG
2023-02-03 02:39
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I feel he is near of the level of EG . EG can solidify as a t2 team. I don't think wiz give a horrible impression. He was average, better than cerQ (which is not really hard). It is a good step in the good direction. They can replace hext with a Eu player and they are more promising IMO. Or breeze with an EU player and Hext with a NA "talent" since he is playing support roles.
2023-02-03 02:44
People expecting a new awper to be literally Dev1ce tbh I think with a few months of work, he's already better than OSee
2023-02-03 02:03
awp is the best role if you want high stats. its an op role that every team needs. that doesnt mean its easy. good for him for looking hot in a bad scene
2023-02-03 02:31
#44
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United States Boarding
You forget that the awper role is all-important, in that being able to read the game and position yourself accordingly takes skill. Give awpers a bit more credit...
2023-02-03 02:48
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