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Group A is stacked, Heroic and Vitality got easy group. Why does this always happen?
2023-02-04 05:50
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because thats how rng works?
2023-02-04 05:51
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If it always happens, then its very unlikely to be RNG? hence the "random" in rng?
2023-02-04 06:06
It's based on ESL ranking, not RNG. At least that is my impression anyway.
2023-02-04 08:34
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ESL ranking = RNG lmao
2023-02-04 09:45
agree i dont care if that based on ranking but navi and vita is close on ranking but how navi meet G2 FAZE but vitality not LMAOOO
2023-02-04 05:53
4 replies
vitality meets outsiders and heroic other tournament winners. Even if you say they look worse now You got to remember how they qualified...
2023-02-04 06:19
3 replies
Kinda funny that vita is 6th, navi are 7th and mouz are 8th, yet navi got sent into a group of death and mouz got a get out of jail card :D
2023-02-04 08:38
2 replies
dont worry mouz will not beat OG
2023-02-04 11:10
#35
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
There is no group of death. Everyone is placed based on their rankings only. Stop overrating teams based on their performance 6 months ago. Faze and Navi Navi were top teams and won events before the player break in July last year . After that they are just like any other team in top 10
2023-02-05 04:35
more like mouz and outsiders got easy group
2023-02-04 06:08
#5
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Denmark Kon10R
As if there were any "easy" games ... 🙄
2023-02-04 06:09
2 replies
Not for Astralis
2023-02-04 07:51
1 reply
#34
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Denmark Kon10R
Mr. Sherlock is sharp here: You are absolutely right! 😁
2023-02-05 04:26
It makes me so sad to know that the playoffs inevitably will be less exciting knowing that only 3 teams from group A are getting through. These groups could have been even if C9 gets swapped with outsiders tbh
2023-02-04 06:24
11 replies
+1
2023-02-04 07:51
One group have 3/4 from last major semifinal (heroic, outsiders, mouz) other group have none...
2023-02-04 08:36
7 replies
Heroic - good throughout the year Outsiders - fluke Mouz - didn't play since November
2023-02-04 08:39
6 replies
Not that i dont see your point, but also navi and faze have not won anything last season at all. Why do they deserve the good seeds? Both mouz and outsiders rank also show they are top 5-10 and not top 3.
2023-02-04 08:40
5 replies
this whole seeding problem started at Rio, when c9 and vitality got number 15s and 16s, got faze and navi and started an underdog major.
2023-02-04 09:04
4 replies
that is not a seeding problem, that is a c9/vitality problem that they dont win their games. That is not a seeding problem, you cant go to a 3-0 team and tell them they dont get a better seed because we like the brand of some other team that went 3-2
2023-02-04 09:30
3 replies
yeah, just funny how 2 teams underperforming in 1 event set off a sequence of events with weird and strange seedings
2023-02-04 09:33
2 replies
Well they could just do better in the other events? Both made it to legends stage, but only c9 made it to playoff. Vitality played world final, but did not do well, they also did not qualify for fall final. So they have fucked up more than just going 3-2 and not 3-0 at the major. c9 is more of a partner team problem, but still they are playing major, esl events and they have not won since Dallas where half the teams did not come.. So they could just have done better and therefore get the better seeds.
2023-02-04 09:36
1 reply
yeah, I agree that seeding is purely based on rankings, teams shouldn't be awarded better seeding because they are famous.
2023-02-04 09:36
awwww gonna cry?
2023-02-04 11:09
1 reply
Yes
2023-02-04 20:12
Dunno why this always happens but navi is in group A for a change they are usually in heroics spot here.
2023-02-04 06:58
4 replies
Because navi have been rank 1 or 2 for so long they just get the best seeding, along faze. Where now heroic gets the easier way because the are #1 on both hltv/esl and gets the #1
2023-02-04 08:37
3 replies
Feels like a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy doesn't it
2023-02-04 10:25
2 replies
Well yes, it is hard to argue for anything else. Thats why people are stupid because they complain that "top tier" teams that dont win events for a long time, but dont get #1 seed
2023-02-04 10:57
1 reply
Username checks out. I like you
2023-02-04 11:00
#11
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Philippines M@GNU5
they wanna give 2nd chances :3
2023-02-04 07:53
be happy , theres always gonna be really interesting game to watch. In the end best team is going to win anyways and its double elimination isnt?
2023-02-04 07:58
4 replies
well there are 3 teams from every group going into the playoffs, it would be sad to see teams like c9 or navi go out early, yet to see facking fnatic
2023-02-04 09:06
3 replies
Navi no stage games. Gonna hurt the numbers on the finals, no furia either. Grand final is round 2 of group a
2023-02-04 10:26
I don’t mind upsets, only thing that bothers me when finals are one sided.
2023-02-04 13:36
#36
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
Fnatic is actually reaching playoffs in every event they attend since July and even won a small event. Why should teams like Navi always get easy groups
2023-02-05 04:37
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