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FAZE CHANGE ?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?
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Mexico LaloSalamanca 
How long we have to wait until they make changes if they fail this tournament too They practically play most of time 4vs5 because of karrigan, half of time 3vs5 because of rain karrigan and rain are not on level of twistzz, ropz and broky, who practically carry this team, but in t1 you cannot be top1 with 3vs5. What you think, how many tournaments of failures it takes that they have to make changes?
2023-02-06 00:16
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your suggestions for their places?
2023-02-06 00:18
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#21
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World NukestrikE
based on how hltv lineup changes work i guess something like -karrigan and rain +sh1ro and ax1le, broky to rifle and twistzz to igl...
2023-02-06 00:33
44 replies
What let you think twistzz would even make a good igl
2023-02-06 00:44
19 replies
#30
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World NukestrikE
"based on how hltv lineup changes work" i was obviously sarcastic:) but this is how usually hltv suggestions look like
2023-02-06 00:45
16 replies
+1
2023-02-07 10:53
#210
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Germany Booya
yeah but the HLTV Community is filled with People who dont understand the Game, count the Comments against Hooxi ... now G2 is #1 Count the Comments against Karrigan before they won a Major .... these Kids are absolutly Retarted to the Bottom, all they care for is you need to have an Era and 10 Majors or you´re a Noob because these Dumbos are loosing tons of Money while betting. Worst Community on the Planet!
2023-02-07 13:42
14 replies
G2 isn't top1, it takes way longer to prove (because of variance in short term is huge, b but get smaller on long run and show who is how good etc.) and G2 doesn't have such achievements that you could argue they are top1. Last year FaZe was by far most successful team when it came to achievements compared to other teams, if G2 achieve similar success compared to others in 2023, then we can call them top1. I don't say that you have to wait 1 year to confirm it, but at least 4-5 months to see if there is clearly best team, but its same in every sport that in 1 year you clearly see that who was best and which rank everyone deserved. Sometimes even average or bad teams can do good results short term, but in long term they won't be best, long term show who is the number 1 aka the best. I don't say that G2 couldn't be best team of 2023, but its WAY TOO EARLY to say
2023-02-07 14:09
13 replies
depends if you are talking about year ranking or power ranking. in power ranking g2 is without a doubt top1 team atm
2023-02-07 14:33
12 replies
what are you talking about, what "power ranking"? if you refer to hltv ranking system, even pros have admit that in doesn't work in short term, even on long term it have its problems
2023-02-07 16:00
11 replies
did i mention hltv ranking somewhere? power ranking focuses on the most recent performance. just because for example in nba or football some team is on top of the ladder, it doesnt necessarily mean that this team has to be the best at this very moment. they can be easily on lets say 10 games losing streak while there is another team that can be ranked 1-2 spots below them but is on the other hand on 10 games winning streak and defeated that 1st team twice in a row. in power ranking that team would be definitely top1. on long term ranking they wouldnt... there are different kind of rankings. all time, season, power ranking etc and if we would talk about power ranking, g2 is definitely the best team in the world at this very moment
2023-02-07 16:05
10 replies
Where I can see this official power ranking of CSGO? When you watch G2 achievements, you must be totally crazy to think that "g2 is definitely the best team in the world at this very moment"
2023-02-07 17:07
9 replies
there is none i guess? but its common sense. they won the last big event and they are on pretty decent winning streak. who should be top1 at this very moment in your opinion? faze? hell no...
2023-02-07 17:38
8 replies
common sense is FAR AWAY if someone say G2 is proved to be top1 team... at the moment there isn't clear top1 team yet this year
2023-02-07 19:05
7 replies
who the hell was talking about this year or year ranking ffs? learn to read... the best team atm is without a doubt g2 no matter if you like it or not
2023-02-07 19:47
6 replies
I am fan of G2, but even I as their probably one of biggest fans realize that they have to prove to be best/top1 and one tournament doesn't make it, it require more time, not year, but more
2023-02-07 22:05
5 replies
not in freaking power ranking jesus...its not THAT hard to understand such a simple thing...
2023-02-08 03:11
4 replies
yiu you who don't understand simple thing, "power ranking" is just subjective opinion, and only delusional people would think think G2 has proven in such short time that they are best
2023-02-08 17:29
3 replies
every ranking is "subjective opinion" because everyone value different things in different ways... that doesnt mean that g2 is atm without a doubt the best performing team so in power ranking which focuses on the very recent performance they are top1... you have your opinion but its also subjective and nothing more
2023-02-08 17:58
2 replies
"every ranking is "subjective opinion" wrong, for example "live" HLTV ranking is based on algorithms. In real sports "ranking" is never subjective, there are certain rules what give some amount of points and ranking is based on them, like in Tennis for example. In team sports like football ranking is 100% accurate when they count win, loses, goal differences etc. there are few exceptions to rule, for example hltv written csgo ranking after each year is somewhat subjective if its written by people, but even then there are data from enough long time to make smart decisions.
2023-02-08 18:49
1 reply
"for example "live" HLTV ranking is based on algorithms" and who created that algorithm? human and based on what? based on what that guy values more or what he values less so its STILL based on subjective opinion. so no, im not wrong at all... "In team sports like football ranking is 100% accurate when they count win, loses" EXACLTY, thats season ranking, not power ranking... you want some facts and stats/numbers? fine. who won last big event? g2 77.4% of map won last 3 months 100% of map won last month show me team that is EVEN CLOSE to this at this very moment...
2023-02-08 19:07
#100
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United Kingdom LozahG
I can see it after Karrigan retires and/or becomes coach. If you listen to their comm videos he seems to be doing more 2nd calling.
2023-02-06 12:17
1 reply
do you have opinion why they just don't kick him already? its totally unfair towards much more skilled teammates that are so much better than him and he doesn't bring actually anything enough useful to team
2023-02-08 17:31
I think rain can igl. Woxic was copying karrigan tactics and he worked well overall ...
2023-02-06 01:02
4 replies
rain did igl at one point but really didnt like it, so not gonna happen
2023-02-07 12:11
3 replies
I'm joking. I remember woxic said I can igl, since I play with karrigan. The next day, it is Imoor was igling.
2023-02-07 13:28
2 replies
Why you edit your comment and pretend I'm part of some conversation I'm not?
2023-02-07 13:30
1 reply
I didn't edit my comment wtf ? Learn to repy to the right person, man.
2023-02-07 13:36
#80
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India KennyS1ngh
c9 won't let go of ax1le and sh1ro for sure
2023-02-06 05:02
1 reply
#95
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World NukestrikE
depends on contracts...
2023-02-06 11:53
That would work
2023-02-06 12:27
#117
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Russia pewchan
dumbest thing i've ever heard
2023-02-06 13:39
1 reply
maybe read it one more time and try to think about it a bit...
2023-02-06 13:46
Twistzzz be an IGL in Faze = Elec be an IGL in Navi and NiKo be an IGL in Faze. Absolutely will destory their talent of rifle, when IGL is the highest rating in the team, means the team is broken. Btw I think this just a joke.
2023-02-06 22:57
3 replies
ofc it was a joke:D just wanted to point out how most of hltv fixes works...:D btw: hltv.org/forums/threads/2736160/sh1ro-an.. xDD
2023-02-06 23:07
2 replies
tbh, if all the top 1 come with same team (top rifle, top IGL, top awper etc...) this is not fun ;(
2023-02-06 23:10
1 reply
it depends...if teams like navi, faze, vitality, g2, c9, heroic and liquid(maybe some other 1-2 teams) would be actually consistent we could have really interesting year...
2023-02-06 23:13
had a laugh, thank you
2023-02-07 13:28
based on scientific research it should be like this -ropz + s1mple -broky +zywoo -rain + sh1ro -twistzz + ax1le -karrigan + Niko
2023-02-07 13:45
2 replies
#243
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South America Dorinha13
who will be the IGL?
2023-02-07 20:22
1 reply
bestesteses would be Niko IGl again or s1mple would igl like in fpl
2023-02-07 20:39
this is one of the worst rooster ideas you could have come up with
2023-02-07 13:52
1 reply
it was on purpose...
2023-02-07 13:59
"broky to rifle" wtf is wrong with you
2023-02-07 14:05
1 reply
learn to read and try to use your brain. maybe you will figure it out:P
2023-02-07 14:06
Sh1ro can’t speak English at all
2023-02-16 02:07
1 reply
/facepalm...
2023-02-16 06:03
#25
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Germany Inf1nnity
idk es3tag seems like a good choice but im not certain if its good enough
2023-02-06 00:37
10 replies
#33
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Hungary kushh_
hell no. good guy, thx for help but longterm absolutely no way
2023-02-06 00:54
9 replies
#36
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Germany Inf1nnity
yeah but who would you take and who would you replace?
2023-02-06 01:02
8 replies
#101
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Hungary kushh_
I have no good ideas tbh. -rain +XANTARES sound really really good for me but I'm not sure if it's a good idea to replace a 28 years old guy with a 27 and I'm afraid the turk's english is not good enough to communicate perfectly. I'm not even sure that I'd -rain tbh. Probably not. I think it's karrigan's time to go. I notice that nowadays FaZe has close to 0 proper plan in rounds, they rely on 3 (sometimes 4 with rain) very exceptional players individual skills. There are no 500iq karrigan moments anymore. Every round we scream ROPZ!!! TWISTZZ!!! BROKY!!!! RAIN!!! because there are barely any teamplay now in Faze. But If you'd ask me to suggest an IGL that's fit this roster... bro idk. Maybe gamble like G2, bring a random danish guy from tier 2 and pray. but I'm afraid Faze won't gamble like this and also they are broke asf at the moment so there can be a very dark faze-phase on vision but I hope the boys bounce back and it's just a bad period. I'd love it if they would make me look like and idiot by playing excellently today against IHC. Fazeupppp
2023-02-06 12:18
7 replies
You just know that Denmark produces the best IGL’s, when you can bring a random tier 2 IGL and make it a success. And even suggest it without sounding dumb, lol.
2023-02-06 13:51
2 replies
#123
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Hungary kushh_
yeah it's in your blood I think, even on faceit almost all the time danish people call rounds
2023-02-06 14:11
1 reply
True. Alphas. Vikings. Leaders by passion.
2023-02-07 01:17
#200
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Brazil MicaWes
maybe -rain +frozen keep karrigan if it doesn't work out, bring the random danish tier 2 igl and let karrigan coach.
2023-02-07 12:25
3 replies
im not one to change faze at this point already but if it were to be any changes, this was the one. I have a hinge that Frozen will end up on faze however way you turn it.
2023-02-07 13:58
2 replies
#218
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Brazil MicaWes
Yes, i don't think they need changes. BUT, if it has to happen, then it's +frozen Synergy with ropz and karrigan, and the roles are practically the same as rain.
2023-02-07 14:02
1 reply
+1
2023-02-07 15:57
#45
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Bosnia and Herzegovina finci
if the changes are to be made id do -rain +yekindar -karrigan +siuhy
2023-02-06 01:44
13 replies
yekindar is garbage please no, i bet $1000 he worse than rain overall for team and faze will win zero
2023-02-06 04:55
12 replies
"yekindar is garbage" hltv iq
2023-02-06 16:53
10 replies
he is literally terrible
2023-02-06 19:34
1 reply
1.33 impact and 1.09 rating as a hard entry is world class in a shit team like liquid , i get you never watch cs but dont make it this obvious
2023-02-06 19:42
yekindar is literally the most overrated T1 pro. this guy is constantly putting up unacceptable .5 k/d's with occasional pop offs. single handedly loses liquid more games than nitr0 and osee. do you really believe yekindar is better than rain?
2023-02-06 22:50
7 replies
cus his role isnt to constantly topfrag thats for elige and naf to do, he has to create space for the stars. If you dont realise that then learn cs
2023-02-06 22:55
6 replies
hahaha bro idc if his stats are overall decent when he single handedly throws games constantly. a slightly lower peak player like naf who puts up at least a 1.05 game 95% of the time is a lot more valuable to a team than someone who pops off 1/3 games and a total bot 2/3
2023-02-06 22:57
5 replies
"he doesnt get kills so hes a bot" bro youre max gold nova with that logic avg hltv user
2023-02-06 23:00
4 replies
you are clearly either a young child or brand new to following pro cs
2023-02-06 23:02
3 replies
lmao using the same argument cus youre lost youre literally saying "no kills = bot" not using logic and taking roles into account cus youre silver or gold nova
2023-02-06 23:06
2 replies
nah if you dont think yekindar is overrated and inconsistent you have some sort of mental issue
2023-02-06 23:07
1 reply
i didnt say he wasnt inconsistent cus its literally impossible to be consistent in his role fx. k0nfig, rez, teses, flamez but yekindar still has a huge impact rating that they dont have but youre silver so hes "overrated" when the stats and eye test says otherwise
2023-02-06 23:13
yekindar currently has the highest OPK rating .. lol what
2023-02-06 18:00
Even if it's not looking good, I hope FaZe win this event to make you look like the clown you are
2023-02-06 00:18
2 replies
Lol certainly won't happen. Don't agree with Rain take but he's not wrong about karrigan. They need a better IGL
2023-02-06 16:44
1 reply
#183
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Estonia EquitaS
Average FaZe shuffles discuss on hltv: -karrigan. Who tf can replace him? There are no T1 ILGs that can play 1.05-1.1 rating but nexa (blameF so-so, i don't remember T1 IGLing from him). Any alternatives like T2-T3 siuhy/moving someone from rilfer to IGL are pure shit. No one can uncover stong siders of players better than karrigan & there are not so much IGLs with HUGE major experience. His playstyle consisting in being entry and coordinating teammates was used by apEX, MSL, ANGE1 and many other stong IGLs. It could look like weakness but statistically FaZe has the best %4v5 round wins. It's still better than Jame-time every round.
2023-02-07 00:09
And what players you would take instead? I was thinking NiKo/YEKINDAR as new entry, great entries with firepower (I would first pick s1mple or ZywOo [I know they are not known commonly as entries but they can play that role, especially ZywOo] but I don't think they would join, ZywOo maybe if they had enough money) and blameF/nexa as new IGL, smart IGLs with firepower
2023-02-06 00:18
28 replies
That is not a fifa ultimate team bro
2023-02-06 00:20
9 replies
It works in real sport: if you have best players, you dominate. There isn't any reason why it wouldn't work in CS:GO. You have seen what FaZe level is when karrigan and rain perform too - happen very rarely, but when it happen FaZe is winning tournaments With 5 super skilled players for each role they would be like Real Madrid of CSGO
2023-02-06 00:23
8 replies
There are plenty of reasons for it to not work. Superstar rosters have completely failed before, even though based on their individuals, they should perform highly. It's obviously that simple
2023-02-06 02:01
5 replies
C. Ronaldo's Real Madrid and Messi's Barcelona proved your argument wrong Wayne Gretztky's Edmonton Oileres won FOUR Stanley Cups in row when they had all best players of NHL in same team (that was before salary cap per team). Also, in CS FaZe have currently most firepower (3 star players) and they were by far best team in 2022 when it came to achievements. Imagine FaZe with 5 star players in each role, it would make them Real Madrid of CS
2023-02-06 16:42
4 replies
lmao , international firepower rooster only 1 major in 10 years that don't says something to you ?
2023-02-06 17:06
1 reply
it took that long to get enough international star players to same roster before that it was like almost 10 years with international teams with just medicore players at best (or just 2 super stars at same time) faze was first international team to have 3 super stars in same team and with that they become best team of 2022 by far compared to any team by results if they had 5, just imagine what force they would be, doesn't that says something to you?
2023-02-06 17:18
I was talking about superstar rosters in csgo not football. In csgo they have largely been unsuccessful
2023-02-16 01:56
1 reply
Yet NiP, FaZe and G2 have proved you wrong. NiP dominated 87-0 with 4 best players in one team, FaZe was the best team last year with 3 best players and G2 is dominating this year with superstar roster. Enough proof?
2023-02-24 00:16
#255
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Finland Trob1950
So you weren’t around for the Faze +OLOFMEISTER?
2023-02-07 21:29
1 reply
back then english communication didn't work as well, after FPL coming popular enough and everyone speaking english, things changed. Olofmeister just born too early.
2023-02-07 22:00
-nexa -smart My guy wanted to leave g2 with best firepower for og. Niko is winning tournaments, he isn't going to leave, zywoo is too expensive, yeki probably around 1-1.5m also. Astralis not going to let their star rifler go. If they want any replacement (it won't be before summer break) they can go for young Igl like siuhy and they can also go to their academy team and pick frozen, because my boy can play every role except awper in this game.
2023-02-06 00:25
11 replies
#87
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Serbia PeterXD
frozeN underrated player
2023-02-06 07:59
you know that faze is the richest eSport org in the world, value like 5 billion? thats why they can buy anyone who just want to join
2023-02-06 23:55
9 replies
they're broke if you've been following the stock issues articles have recently called out. But I'm dying to know where you got that $5 billion valuation - where'd you come up with that number??? lol
2023-02-07 00:23
Plese follow latest articles when you want to argue.. faze is literally dying this year
2023-02-07 10:50
7 replies
some education to you: stock market goes up and down all the time, like bitcoin
2023-02-07 12:35
6 replies
so why is faze going down now for so like a year straight?
2023-02-07 15:57
5 replies
year is too short time to determine anything, next year they can have like 5x more value than they had at their peak before and faze is going down because investors know that keeping karrigan and rain is catastrophic bad decission
2023-02-07 17:09
4 replies
i mean rain is still good on some maps (maybe they can sign a 6-men roster :D), but the problem is broky's inconsistency and karrigan's calling recently
2023-02-07 21:22
3 replies
problem is that rain is good like 20% time when at that level you should be good 80-95% of times at least. Somebody younger entry with more skill would be better, like NiKo or YEKINDAR for example. karrigan calling have been bad from last summer break, this is youngmen game and karrigan is too old, they practically play like mm/pub style, karrigan is death weight so to speak
2023-02-07 22:03
2 replies
niko is only 3 years younger than rain and he is isnt going anywhere from g2, maybe yekindar, but i think they will go for someone younger, or, maybe frozen, because he can really play every role in the game. younger igl? im sticking again for mouz, but their academy - so siuhy :D
2023-02-07 22:06
1 reply
3 years are A LOT in reaction time based game like CS, there is reason why there are so few CS players at top who are as old as rain. If FaZe buy him out and give him like 5 million per year salary, I think he would join FaZe asap. yekindar would be cheaper and surely would want to join. frozen is good, but not good enough for that role.
2023-02-07 22:09
#41
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Netherlands arTvamp
So its easy add blamef as igl and device as awper.
2023-02-06 01:40
No way you really wrote down "+NiKo" like that big ego'd mfer didn't get kicked from this team once already. Karrigan ain't letting him back in.
2023-02-06 01:57
2 replies
Flag, flair all checks out
2023-02-07 11:49
1 reply
Implying I'm wrong? You'll never see NiKo play for Faze again as long as Karrigan is there.
2023-02-07 13:18
zywoo is entry in vitality most of the time
2023-02-06 13:47
cope more, NiKo is happy at G2 with his cousin and his team
2023-02-06 16:21
F0ze clan is fine grandma rain and grandpa karrigan are doing a good job
2023-02-06 00:19
In a year or two both will leave faze, just that they will wait and prepare a replacement
2023-02-06 00:19
faze don't need changes as long as they consistently top 5 team if they fall off then make roster change, teams always try to be nr1 and if it don't work, replace and replace again that is stupid and leads to worse performance overall
2023-02-06 00:20
6 replies
#15
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Spain kroosw0w
Consistently top5 is not enough for a team that has dominated
2023-02-06 00:28
Ask Messi or C.Ronaldo would they rather be in top1 (team) or "constant top5". Twistzz, broky and ropz know they have potential to be top1 team if they just had 2 more skilled teammates, no way that they rather be "constant top5" instead. Karrigan just have too much power, even though he didn't reach top1 until he got 3 star players to his team, he want to keep his fat checks, he likes getting money more than give his teammates chance to be top1 while his teammates are young
2023-02-06 00:31
3 replies
wrong comment
2023-02-06 01:57
2 replies
how you can "<3" karrigan? you like him make faze loose, because he selfishly want to get as much salary from faze as long as he can no matter how much his presence suffers faze performance?
2023-02-07 19:24
1 reply
because I don't care for the org. I like the team that he helped build, and he seems like a likeable person. If Faze decides to -karrigan because they think that they'll improve that way, I'm fine with. It's not that serious to me
2023-02-16 02:02
#43
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Netherlands arTvamp
True consistently top5 with lan clutch factor will make you win thropies over a years period.
2023-02-06 01:42
Broky was a bot all series but blame Rain who plays entry
2023-02-06 00:20
2 replies
The only change that i see in faze is - karrigan, he is too old for fighting young stars and rn thats time for new type of igl, they need to create new and never seen strats or be start player that can carry his team
2023-02-06 16:56
1 reply
Faze has an issue with their CT sides right now more so than their T sides, which Im not sure is due to rifle changes or setups. The rain/karrigan anchor setup i feel is causing some issues but could be a simple who plays with who thing
2023-02-08 03:32
#9
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Spain kroosw0w
-broky +degster -rain +YEKINDAR ?!?!?!?!?!?!
2023-02-06 00:23
12 replies
- broky + martinez - rain + mopoz INSTA TOP 1 FOREVER
2023-02-06 00:22
1 reply
Movistar Players are cursed.....
2023-02-06 00:23
#46
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Netherlands arTvamp
That would be sic and broky for igl then. Dont think its going to work together seeing how degster and yekindar are they would need karrigan as igl.
2023-02-06 01:44
2 replies
#49
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Spain kroosw0w
I never said kick karrigan
2023-02-06 01:48
1 reply
#50
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Netherlands arTvamp
True
2023-02-06 01:50
Why would you EVER get rid of Rain? Easiest way to make this a dogshit bottom 20 team ever.
2023-02-06 01:58
4 replies
#64
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Spain kroosw0w
Sure
2023-02-06 02:32
3 replies
Yes, kick your 1.08 rated entry player and bring in the player who himself stated "I want to be the star player in the team I'm playing in, I want the focus to be on me." and can only entry well on inferno banana. Very smart move mister manager man.
2023-02-06 02:56
2 replies
#68
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Spain kroosw0w
Cry
2023-02-06 03:20
1 reply
Exactly what I thought, no thoughts up there.
2023-02-06 03:36
2023-02-06 04:55
1 reply
#88
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Spain kroosw0w
I am joking around lol, I don’t like KINDER neither
2023-02-06 08:20
-rain +es3tag but keep everyone in the belief that he's just a stand-in
2023-02-06 00:22
#16
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Poland grape2k
konfig was free to take instead of rain :)
2023-02-06 00:30
1 reply
K0nfig will also probably be free after summer break
2023-02-06 13:32
#17
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Germany Inf1nnity
Karrigan does make very very high level calls idk what they should change
2023-02-06 00:31
9 replies
What makes you think so? FaZe got literally one of worst teamplays among top10-15 teams, they really on their 3 star players. They don't coorinate so well as NaVi, G2, Heroic. Instead they usually push solo, so what positive karrigan is bringing if they play more like pub/mm style anyway now?
2023-02-06 00:33
8 replies
#31
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Germany Inf1nnity
idk what is up lately but last year karrigan had great calls i really hope to see a dominant faze id love to see ropz winning the grand slam
2023-02-06 00:48
1 reply
#47
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Netherlands arTvamp
True true igs deserved but hej who knows its a race :D
2023-02-06 01:45
#61
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
You literally went from being a hardcore FaZe Clan fanatic, accusing HLTV of foul-play in favour of them; to now removing your flair and bashing on them. Are you baiting? I can't tell anymore...
2023-02-06 02:01
2 replies
Typical bandwagoner, he'll add a flair of whoever wins kato, and then whoever wins blast major
2023-02-06 13:34
1 reply
Yeah, very likely to be the case.
2023-02-06 18:16
" FaZe got literally one of worst teamplays" 0/8 lmao, nice try
2023-02-06 08:25
Cuz karrigan's brilliance does not rely on his calling alone, but rather on other factors. Notice how faze always seems to start slow in tournaments, it's cuz karrigan's style is always to try and figure out what other teams have prepared for the tournament by floating map picks. In a sense karrigan is already half a coach. His calling in game is based on set strats with alot of flexibility mid to late round so that anyone on the team with an idea can improvise based on how the round went (which is also why he doesnt call when hes dead). Then when faze reaches the playoffs, he can now bring out his actual playbook with a few changes according to what he saw throughout the tournament and adapts to the opponent, all the while boosting his teammates abilities by an extra 5-10%.
2023-02-06 12:38
1 reply
+1 200iq thread. makes so much sense
2023-02-07 20:40
i think Faze are good right now . I hope in 1 or 2 years i see -rain +stavn
2023-02-06 00:31
bro rain is basically Niko level in a lot of positions, he's playing some of the hardest roles, star roles, because he's that good. I think the main reason Faze hasn't been able to keep up is Broky, unfortunately. Look at top contenders: Navi, G2, Vitality, Liquid, Cloud9, Outsiders they all have star awpers (Osee is a low tier star awper like Broky). Even some lesser teams have star awpers, impacftul players that take space and dictate the pace of their teams, like OG, Mouz, Ence, Big, Broky, as good as he's been on Faze, is closer to that second tier of awpers than Shiro Zywoo S1mple. That's what's been lacking for Faze,
2023-02-06 00:33
1 reply
lmao broky could 1v5 any brasil team, yet you keep hating
2023-02-06 08:26
#22
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Brazil Vicmar
-rain +jks
2023-02-06 00:33
XANTARES is already waiting, he'll make FaZe great again
2023-02-06 00:34
1 reply
-Karrigan + Sunnny
2023-02-06 23:20
FaZe is still a top 3 team and can take any trophy, honestly you are all stupid for basing your opinions on particular games like this, most tier 1 matches are a coin flip these days
2023-02-06 00:39
2 replies
#48
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Netherlands arTvamp
+1
2023-02-06 01:47
nah let them keep making these posts, they're hilarious to read
2023-02-07 10:57
Yeah, they looked great in the first half of 2022, but have dropped off after the player break. Karrigan and Rain are too old to have the energy to stay consistently performing. I think it's mostly Rain though, Karrigan is an unrivalled IGL. But if they can get a player like Yekindar to replace Rain, and maybe an IGL like ALEX or TabseN to replace Karrigan, they'd certainly do better than if they only replace Rain.
2023-02-06 00:42
#28
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New Zealand Melting
hltv users would unironically say +s1mple +Niko +axile +monesy +Zywoo
2023-02-06 00:42
1 reply
first and last add would be great, but most likely won't happen
2023-02-06 03:49
bro Faze lost 3 out of their 12 last matches, two of those were against G2 (literally the best team in the world at the moment), and 3/4 maps played against them went into the long run, and the other match lost was against Heroic in the final of Blast, which was a really close game overall, when Heroic was in top form. There is nothing to change, there is like two teams that can beat Faze right now and they cant do it easily, matches in their level are being decided on small things that cant be controlled
2023-02-06 00:50
1 reply
#52
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Netherlands arTvamp
Exactly for the most part.
2023-02-06 01:53
with the way the faze org is going, doubt they'll be around for long regardless
2023-02-06 01:05
-rain +launX
2023-02-06 01:06
1 reply
+Kscerato if he wants to leave those Brazilian bots.
2023-02-06 23:21
#39
broky | 
Canada Kupo
! month into a new season lol anyone who suggests a change is insane... do any of you watch CS?????????????????????????????????????? There is NO ONE better out there right now that they can get... you all think it's possible to obtain any player lol. Joke.
2023-02-06 01:11
1 reply
#53
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Netherlands arTvamp
If you lay down two chocolate pieces hell yeah fantasy alright ^^
2023-02-06 01:54
rain literally is the major mvp and played better than broky today, rain very rarely is the worst or even the 2nd last on the server
2023-02-06 01:41
#44
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Serbia Cheerio23
I mean it's one loss to G2 which is in insane form, I don't think this tells much of a story. Still if they don't win this or EPL maybe it's time for rain to dedicate himself to fatherhood and for FaZe to bring in someone like frozen
2023-02-06 01:44
2 replies
#57
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Netherlands arTvamp
Frozen could happen
2023-02-06 01:59
1 reply
#131
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Serbia Cheerio23
It's just that MOUZ will probably demand a very high buyout for him and with FaZe's financial situation that's a tough ask. Maybe if his contract is running out soon like ropz last year
2023-02-06 16:32
Broky never was star awp material always choking in big tournaments
2023-02-06 01:55
8 replies
Yeah, cuz we all know you need to be choking hard to become a MVP in a top tier tourney, right? And even more-so to do it twice. 0/8
2023-02-06 12:41
1 reply
flag
2023-02-06 16:14
#132
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Serbia Cheerio23
> MVP of Katowice, #6 player of the year Alright man
2023-02-06 16:33
5 replies
trash at majors, choked at this years katowice
2023-02-06 16:36
3 replies
Won a major = Trash at majors? Best player in Stockholm for Faze?
2023-02-06 23:22
2 replies
broky barely top 10 sadly just farming stats from faze success
2023-02-07 08:41
1 reply
I mean he's played well in 2/3 majors he's been in so not sure where someone would get the idea he's trash at majors.
2023-02-07 09:48
broky bottom fragging again as per usual
2023-02-06 21:07
#59
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North America K1nGoldY
+Forester -rain +Nickelback -Karrigan
2023-02-06 02:00
1 reply
ez top 60
2023-02-06 08:30
#62
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Albania tanzania89
-rain +frozen would fit perfect
2023-02-06 02:09
1 reply
Frozen lurk while rain entry, they have enough passive players already
2023-02-06 13:36
#65
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Afghanistan top5rifler
I think G2 win katowice easily with 3-0 against vitality
2023-02-06 02:35
3 replies
Vitality has the easiest path to the final imaginable only Apex could throw hard enough to mess it up.
2023-02-06 23:22
1 reply
called it LMAO
2023-02-07 19:54
#238
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Latvia WiliamsLV
heroic will win
2023-02-07 19:53
without karrigan they arent much. rain for konfig would work. rain and broky for s1mple and electronic would be cool
2023-02-06 02:44
#69
seraph | 
Korea Rel^
FaZe: +s1mple +ZywOo ez 7 majors
2023-02-06 03:23
#70
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India shoom123
nt JasminLee
2023-02-06 03:25
There is absolutely no need for change in FaZe right now. There is more competition now, though, because G2 are in terrific shape as well as Heroic and Vitality. Also, Liquid, C9 and OG can kick ass occasionally. And let's not forget about NaVi. Just because your favourite team doesn't win every single game or tournament doesn't mean they need to revamp the whole roster.
2023-02-06 03:30
if karrigan leave Ropz could become IGL
2023-02-06 03:32
get zywoo pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee
2023-02-06 03:48
I always laugh a lot when I see people thinking k0nfig or something is better than rain lmao
2023-02-06 03:52
2 replies
#77
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
I would rather have rain speaking Danish and in Astralis than K0nfig
2023-02-06 03:57
1 reply
+1 rain too good at the moment
2023-02-06 08:44
Rain carried them last map so no hes also the goat
2023-02-06 05:23
#83
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Malaysia AtPdTrZ
not yet 1 more major for rain
2023-02-06 07:34
faze can still bounce back. ihc, liquid, spirit are all easy-ish
2023-02-06 07:45
Look at Rain roles first of all ! When entering a site, he is right in front of the pack and that is why his death numbers are more. Also, on Nuke, He bested Niko (the so called best outside player on Nuke) so many times and yet he is the problem. KarriBOT did nothing in terms of fragging at all and he was so extremely poor and guess what .. Faze had problems because of THAT. And we all saw, how many 4v2's (even a 5v2 on Ancient) Faze lost vs G2. That just isn't allowed.
2023-02-06 07:55
hltv analysts after 1 loss to the strongest team right now:
2023-02-06 08:29
-Rain +Frozen It would be very strong. However I dont think that it will happen
2023-02-06 08:45
#97
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Brazil flytw4tp
yall talk like FaZe was a bad team they’ve been a solid Top 3 team for more than a year
2023-02-06 11:57
#98
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Netherlands Dayonel
Don't understimate Karrigan and rain, they are an absolute beast. Yes Twistzz, ropz and Broky are fraggers but every team needs other roles too, is just not the best moment for them, but I would not make any changes.
2023-02-06 12:07
es3tag is right there xdd
2023-02-06 12:19
The posts in this thread seem to be even dumber than those in the Trump video thread. Unbelievable.
2023-02-06 12:23
1 reply
Trump is based
2023-02-06 12:28
Faze struggled against a perfect form G2 and suddently needs to chage... Rain shat on niko on Nuke... Karrigan is there for the brain and not for the fragging... i'm a G2 fan but i don't think G2 wins agains this Faze 100% of the time
2023-02-06 12:27
4 replies
#109
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Albania Al1Vesel1
finally a hltv user that uses his brain xD +rep bro.
2023-02-06 12:45
Pff, how can you possibly presume to be smarter than all these professional coaches and team managers that HLTV forums are full of? Get a grip Squillo! :D
2023-02-06 12:47
1 reply
I bench 225 man, i'm better
2023-02-06 14:32
#129
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Estonia Kukkel
+1 FaZe is the best team in the world
2023-02-06 16:23
they dont need changes, they are all good players who are playing good currently its just that g2 is above everyone else individually right now
2023-02-06 13:33
1 reply
#125
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Other ethelred
name doesn't check out
2023-02-06 14:22
lalo u died in season 6 wtf
2023-02-06 13:36
#116
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Finland Rateski
aleksib faze confirmed
2023-02-06 13:37
-broky +guardian
2023-02-06 13:43
Oh no the - Kariggan threads have started, who are you gonna blame next when it happens and Niko is not around to take the blame
2023-02-06 13:50
+xantares + woxic broky on rifle
2023-02-06 14:20
I thought the Obvious choice would be -Rain +Frozen
2023-02-06 16:26
:DDDDDDDDDDD 2/8
2023-02-06 16:38
-karrigan + nexa
2023-02-06 16:40
-rain +jks
2023-02-06 16:41
There is chance for changes to happen if they fail to close out IGS. But would Faze go for it, considering their financial situation and stuff.
2023-02-06 16:41
#141
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Europe tsken
Calm down - not even out of the tournament, and losing to in form team (G2) right now. No shame in that, and you talk about who to replace. No change is needed, and furthermore nothing will happen before FaZe ether win the Intel Grand Slam or the last 3. event chances for achieving this is over with.
2023-02-06 16:50
-rain +XANTARESS
2023-02-06 17:56
thats not correct. How tf would u except an igl to frag as much as the star players on a team? They have the star player role because they are the ones to frag, they are the ones who need to carry because this is how the star role works. And then u have the igl role that demands the player to have focus on all zones of the map, in all of his players, in how the round flows. Being an igl requires a lot of focus in a lot of other aspects than your aiming and performance and thats why an igl, normally, failes to frag because they dont need to. This all to prove that karrigan, the igl, is not the problem, faze won 4 of the biggest events with karrigan calling because he is a good caller and has prove that a lot of times. Now lets talk about rain. Rain is not demmanded to be the star player and always having 30+ kills, as i said, that role as already been given to players like twistzz ropz and broky who are the 3 carries of faze. Rain role is toi provide space on the map, because he is the entry, to allow the 3 star players to shine and he does that very often. Besides that rain contributes a lot on faze t side with openings and thats his funcion on t-side. Then we have the ct-side where rain shines and has a lot of impact controlling areas on the map. Example of that is on nuke where he controles the whole outside area by himself and does a pretty good job.~ Personally, as a faze fan, i think that the problem is that we sometimes get out played by the other team, and thats one of the things we need to focus on. Also we lost a lot of 4v5's or something because someone is caught of guard. And then we lose a lot of rounds that we are not suposed to like ecos or semi buys and forces with deagles. Overall i think faze is a solid team but they make some mistakes that they shouldnt expecially on the t-side, this side is certainly our weakness and we have to improve on that but i dont think that changing the team now is the better solution
2023-02-06 18:09
they need to replace rain with yekindar this year, while karrigan is still igling. even if they win everything this year (which they won't, g2 will), -rain +yekindar. it's the best choice for the future of the team.
2023-02-06 18:11
+BlameF
2023-02-06 18:18
ffs the shitty "FaZe fix" threads are back can't wait for user to pretend FaZe can get valuable players from other teams, or pick up dogshit free agents
2023-02-06 22:51
Excellent joke
2023-02-06 23:01
-Broky -Rain -Karrigan -Ropz -Twistzz only Robban who now ?
2023-02-06 23:02
probably 6 bad month ot 12 month good month iwthout trophys
2023-02-06 23:07
#177
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Estonia Hazardouz
They don’t need any changes, they’ve already shown what this lineup is capable of . What they need is to practice more and fix their stupid mistakes, such as not checking corners, poor utility use, bad teamplay (not trading eachother, peeking awp one by one).
2023-02-06 23:15
karrigan is the reason they all have the space to succeed individually. Their success was (in part, no props taken from the amazing calling and great teamplay) due to rain finding his best form for half a year and broky overperforming, now they kinda struggle because they both fell off a bit. Learn from mistakes, karrigan is NOT the problem. They might just need a mental reset. RobbaN is also amazing and heavily underrated.
2023-02-07 00:17
i dont think they will replace Rain in the first. Karrigan is on his last rodeo this year i think.. old man and time for him to coach i guess. his brain is BIG stuff.. but its easy to see he gets older. Rain have a lot in his personal life.. the fact that he is now a New father will force him to change focus to the kid now in the begninning. Ropz are GOOD and i think he will Stay if he wants Brooky are on and off. but when he is ON he is better than any player. and when he is of. well.. i think he needs more time to be the best version he can be .. just se how much he have grown as a pro player in Faze! but still a rooky many times. more a experience thing. The canadinan Gold star. are just insane and its so fun to see how much he have prooven himself in faze. so my best guess are that they are on a lookout for a new IGL.. but i will take time.. cuz the best ones are taken..
2023-02-07 08:54
probably -rain next year if he doesnt perform. otherwise no changes
2023-02-07 10:53
No changes incoming.......team is good.They just make a lot of mistakes
2023-02-07 12:04
You are really smoking that good good. Why the fuck would they make changes when they are 1 win away from a grand slam.
2023-02-07 12:06
+NiKo -Twistzz +GuardiaN - broky +Olofmeister -ropz
2023-02-07 12:08
4 replies
I feel like this could've been a great roster around 2018.
2023-02-07 12:33
2 replies
Dunno, I think it would choke when the pressure is really on.
2023-02-07 13:42
1 reply
yeah they have that major chokers vibe...
2023-02-07 13:47
#211
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Norway Mickoo
+1 would be sick and reach major finals easily
2023-02-07 13:43
#208
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Finland KieZuZ
Yes. +Aleksib +jimpphat
2023-02-07 13:41
ropz twistzz and karrigan are staying 100%. rain is inconsistent compared to ropz and twistzz. karrigan is the best igl itw. mfs in the post seriously thinks just because statswise he cant keep up with the team they might replace karrigan lmfao. they made that mistake years ago and faze literally became tier 2 team while he was winning trophies with the rookie nonamers so even thinking about is ridiculous. lets say org give the green light for it, twistzz and ropz would left the team the second their contract expires because karrigan is the only reason why they choose faze clan in the first place and they are pretty much in love with the guy. idk when will that happen but if it happens first roster move will be either rain or broky. i believe they might wanna go for rain because of the age or rain might take a break for a couple months because of his newborn child.
2023-02-07 13:57
karrigan need to find a receiver
2023-02-07 14:07
do you understand roles?
2023-02-07 14:13
So if we presume -Karrigan, -Rain +Brollan +tabseN Brollan maybe tabseN very unlikely...
2023-02-07 14:24
who literally can still defend karrigan? I can already tell they lose even to liquid, because for example karrigan try win every round no matter how bad position his team is, even try win rounds when they have no kits and time like 15 seconds and no idea where opponents are and no nades and they do that same all the time again and some kids think karrigan is great igl... no point even watch, luckily my new favorite team G2 is successful
2023-02-07 19:28
1 reply
WHAT I TOLD YOU ^^
2023-02-07 20:19
-rain +flamez
2023-02-07 19:51
faze lose tooo many eco rounds
2023-02-07 19:59
2 replies
What you expect when karrigan is igl? they play pub/mm style and every igl in top20 teams know to read karrigan's "playbook" like open book. if he cannot even take care of his health (getting weight), how could he take care of strategies?
2023-02-07 20:23
1 reply
And guess who were once again in bottom of stats (what a surprise): hltv.org/stats/matches/94398/faze-vs-liq..
2023-02-07 20:25
i feel like rain might take a break as the team is not preforming well and he just had a baby.
2023-02-07 20:20
1 reply
hopefully, and I just hope that faze have "b@lls" to say selfish karrigan that its his time to go, nexa or blameF would be perfect add and YAKENDER or NiKo to take rain's place
2023-02-07 20:27
-broky +sunpayus -rain +? the era of Faze has been sponsored by the Ukrainian war
2023-02-07 20:31
#248
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Finland N0iZ
Change out Rain and broky. Or put broky as an entry and try that and get Zywoo to awp. Bot twizzt and rips are good with awp also. So i would keep karrigan for 2023 and also 2024 then he needs to step down also. Replacing Rain isn't easy beacuse they have awsome chemistry and he is a solid player when performs. But as much I love faze since day one plz make some changes and take back your well deserved Nr1 spot again.
2023-02-07 20:31
5 replies
you want take out their best player, broky, probably best player in the world at the moment? and you want keep ancient old karrigan, the worst IGL and fragger in top20 teams? Now I start to understand why finnish scene have become joke and your teams just fail and no wonder finnish teams go to bankruptcy all the time and even your precious ENCE kicked their finnish team for foreign team.
2023-02-07 21:25
4 replies
"their best player, broky, probably best player in the world at the moment" Please don't talk about CS ever again.
2023-02-07 22:05
3 replies
He was best player last year, forget stats, he is not baiter, exit-fragger and gun saver like s1mple, zywoo and those russians etc. he is aggressive and try win every round and he surely had biggest actual _IMPACT_ in first half of last year of all cs players - he carried FaZe to 5 tournament wins by being most aggressive top AWPer ever.
2023-02-07 22:11
2 replies
2023-02-07 22:31
1 reply
Read what that guy said, he is out of mind, clearly have some problems
2023-02-08 02:05
-kareigan +Norbert -rain +jeorgesnorts (UP AND COMING GOD) For good measure: -twists +Zywoo (2 awp setup and twists can come save complexity)
2023-02-07 20:44
if -karrigan + mezii but i would keep karrigan
2023-02-07 21:07
Add grim
2023-02-07 22:04
-rain +JKS Kappa
2023-02-08 02:08
#268
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Russia hstlgdv
there will be changes after all three ramaining chances to win the grand slam expire, but not until, cause rebuilding takes time, that is crucial, given that schedule seems tight for the season esl troohies wise
2023-02-08 03:18
#270
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India sid76820
I don't think any change is necessary. It's really hard to build the kind of team chemistry that faze have. It's not broke then don't fix it. It may not be optimal but every good team has had at sone point issues in winning out the key moments. All the matches faze have lost in the last 7 months have been the do Or die matches and maybe some sort of sports psychologist or addrnl. Coach like how G2 has one can help faze too. The team has had players who went from not having majors, colognes, katowices to having it all and tbh most pros in the scene if asked today would be happy to retire with only some of these. So if the problem is that their asses not on fire to win then yes the coach/ karrigan should make changes.
2023-02-08 07:28
Typical lalo salamanca thread
2023-02-16 02:05
Ah yes Theotonin
2023-02-16 06:12
#282
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India sid76820
Bruh karrigan is the best igl as of today. Replace him with any igl and faze goes to rank 20
2023-02-16 09:04
My question is why do you want FaZe to be successful? By them winning tournaments, they are putting money into the org who are using that money to fund more scams
2023-02-16 09:05
#284
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Australia jd4ddy
Faze trust rain too much, they’re not gonna toss him aside anytime soon
2023-02-16 09:08
if there's any change to be made it can't really be rain, the guys is an anchor and entry and he's one of the best in doing so right now. Yekindar, frozen do not play the same roles as him, only one I can think of is brollan but rain is better than him atm.
2023-02-16 09:35
#286
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Sweden Mendiy
I get -Rain, but i dont get -Karrigan.
2023-02-16 11:22
-rain -broky(to liquid) +frozen +degster
2023-02-24 00:19
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