Forum thread: "-apex"

should not have treated RPK like that i hope he gets kicked and leaves the cs scene forever

2023-02-09 10:49

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RPK was always rock solid. Player that got no praise.

2023-02-09 11:34

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hltv always had a bias with rpk I like him too, but come on hltv.org/stats/teams/players/9565/vitali..

2023-02-09 12:03

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Better than dupreeh magisk apEX kyojin. Your point?

2023-02-09 12:08

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Same rating as shitpex who's an IGL. Definitely not better than dupreeh and magisk lmao

2023-02-09 12:09

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Your godly igl places himself on star positions on many maps so he can keep his rating up and rpk played in the most ass places what are you talking about lol

2023-02-09 12:36

shitpex best positions RpK worst positions nt

2023-02-09 12:37

Dont forget, that Apex full W running out and dying every time on ramp, banana and whatever leaves his team in 5v4 very often. I remember a Vertigo game where apex basically died ramp every time in the first 10-20 seconds. Then its a 5v4 and his teammates gets shitty stats as well (except the woo), because they are left trying to clean up his mess.

2023-02-09 12:37

He didn't treated rpk badly. Rpk was not in the good mindset anymore, the guy was too old wasn't ready to make the effort to be top 1.

2023-02-09 11:36

It was RPK's personal decision to move on..

2023-02-09 12:58

yes

2023-02-09 10:50

flag

2023-02-09 10:50

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2023-02-09 13:04

True

2023-02-09 10:50

one is winning, the other is not winning

2023-02-09 10:50

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one has monesy+niko+hunter+jks, the other has zywoo+spinx, which is basically 1.5 players

2023-02-09 10:54

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tough luck

2023-02-09 10:59

what about magisk ? , he is doing pretty well since he joined vita hltv.org/stats/players/events/9032/magis.. nothing close to his peak , but far better then any of the french bots that were on his roles

2023-02-09 11:07

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he's just average, can't really call it "pretty well" still too far behind G2's quad

2023-02-09 11:07

pretty well ? average asf bro 0.97 IEM Katowice 1.02 Rio Major 1.03 Major Antwerp it's too average for Magisk, Major MVP

2023-02-09 11:55

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nothing close to his peak , but far better then any of the french bots that were on his roles and dont kid yourself , magisk has been somwhat consistant to his averages while spinx is a miss or hit when needed the most duprehh and apex are the big gaping holes consedering the roles they take on the team

2023-02-09 12:21

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why u've to say french bot when we talking about Magisk? Magisk is average, and it's not what we expected from him

2023-02-09 12:22

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because he is playing in spots of the past french roster vita got him for free wish crazy +1 incomparisant to whoever had his roles (kyojin ? ) Magisk is average , yes his roles literally constricts him from putting big numbers , stats dont speak much of a player like magisk or any player tbh and he far far from being a problem for the current roster dupreeh and apex are

2023-02-09 12:25

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Dupreeh has no mental and never manages to surpass himself, Apex at least has the slab and the desire to succeed but yes, they are problematic

2023-02-09 12:27

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both are part of the problem remove apex for a beter IGL , maybe dup gets better ? remove dupreeh , apex stays , and the roster might/might not work and you lose alot of "charisma" that the danish trio had vitality should have made a talen team already, grow french talent

2023-02-09 12:31

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Either way, Dupreeh won't be playing the ESL Pro League, there will be a substitute. With any luck, this replacement takes his place We'll see who will take his place

2023-02-09 12:33

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what ? when did this happen

2023-02-09 12:34

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Announced on the KRL' stream, he is going to be a dad and Neo is already looking for a replacement

2023-02-09 13:04

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hope they get someone good

2023-02-09 13:05

One is winning now, where was he before Abu Dhabi? It's about just having good time..

2023-02-09 13:00

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He wasn't even in the team for 6 months, Apex is igling this team for several years now, 2 years with this core

2023-02-09 13:03

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And thankfully won couple of tropies and ranked No.1 also though for few weeks..

2023-02-09 13:05

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The only trophy this core won was EPL which sure was great but nothing good came before and after and they continue to underwhelm while having the second best player of all time on their roster who at times is even the best. They rarely even make playoffs, that's just not good enough

2023-02-09 13:10

imagine wanting to kick magisk over apex but i do agree apex should not get kicked for now and all those people that want apex gone rarely make a suggestion who they should add

2023-02-09 10:51

jame said if you are a bad player as IGL what are you doing. Calling out all these "IGLS". All these teams should kick these bots

2023-02-09 10:52

Hooxi/Karrigan 0.9 by playing bitch roles and entrying/used as bait Apex 0.9 with eco hunting

2023-02-09 10:54

If you saw ESL's filler video with in-game leaders rating other in-game leaders you get a clear picture that apEX is rated very poorly. Vitality is right now all about ZywOo. They are not setting any other player up for success and that falls back on apEX and his poor calls.

2023-02-09 10:54

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check Nitro & Hooxi stats you'll laugh

2023-02-09 11:56

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Yeah. But Hooxi has done very well with the CPH Flames and now G2. If an in-game leader sets his team up nicely, then I almost don't care about their individual stats. I miss a lot more depth in Vitality's gameplans. I think it's a shame because I actually really like the org.

2023-02-09 12:14

even better is everyone going: yeah they're easy to read and when they ask apex what the others think of him: hard to read literally clueless

2023-02-09 12:39

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I also watched the new comms video by blast and vitalities comms are still some of the most hectic ones, I don't know how anyone keeps a clear head while on their teamspeak

2023-02-09 12:40

Exactly!

2023-02-09 13:05

hooxi is fragging better than apex recently also magisk is far from being the problem, their 3rd best player

2023-02-09 10:57

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I would argue that magisk has been better than spinx most of the time

2023-02-09 11:29

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true

2023-02-09 12:32

What does apex bring to the team except for his « energy » , really ? His calls clearly arent good enough for making up for his terrible mechanics. He gets outcalled by Cadian pretty much every time. You need to be one hell of an IGL when you are so bad individually

2023-02-09 11:07

hooxi wins games, nt

2023-02-09 11:00

why you heff to be mad, its only a game

2023-02-09 11:04

How about -zywoo instead

2023-02-09 11:06

-apex is the real good move magisk doing pretty nice

2023-02-09 11:14

There are multiple times in a game where the rounds are lost due to his clueless decisions as a player.

2023-02-09 11:17

Atleast all these IGL has exceptional calling and their team is getting to playoffs again and again, JT can't even frag or call still complexity for some reason is keeping him, conclusion let's keep apex, you say he's bad in fragging, but what if the replacement can't call as good as he do? I mean the 2020 and 21 vita the prime one, which were 2nd best after prime navi, everyone agreed along with zywoo apex calling is also one of the best in the game

2023-02-09 11:21

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I don't think JT is a bad igl whatsoever, I think his calls are good he is just a weak fragger imo

2023-02-09 11:32

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Yea but the thing is that i believe col instead of a caller needs more of a firepower just look at outsiders, they replaced buster with fame and norbert which are basically only firepower upgrade and they like became two levels above then they were before, I still think that floppy and grim and fang as well can micro manage themselves, hallzerk is also clearly getting there, there are way to many firepower upgrade sitting in NA bench to ignore, who knows after firepower upgrade this COL can compete with the prime one that used to finish 3-4th every event and beyond

2023-02-09 13:15

I hope apex stays too, that would keep Vitality shit for longer.

2023-02-09 11:21

major +1

2023-02-09 11:24

dupreeh is washed for sure, kind of crazy that zywoo still has to deal with negative rating players after all these years

2023-02-09 11:28

we can talk about his bad stats, his bad strats and all of that but on top of that he's not aware of tournament formats and it fucks up his team. Example: at the Rio RMR, Vitality had the chace to play for a spot in legends stage but apex was clearly so happy they qualified he didn't give a shit about a game that would have let them go to legends straight away and they got blown out. Same in Kato, clearly didn't care against Heroic and now has to go through quarters and potentially face G2 not in finals when they'd choke. And the day he beat FNC, he realised he would have had to play 2 bo3s the next day if he had lost and tweeted about it. You didn't notice before the event? Just not aware of anything in general

2023-02-09 11:35

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His tweet had nothing to do with this because quarters are on friday and semis on saturday

2023-02-09 12:05

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twitter.com/Vitality_apEX/status/1622883.. Pretty sure he was referring to the Group B lower bracket. where Outsiders/Col played 2 bo3 in the same day. Like, you should have been aware of that earlier, you were one ZywOo 1v4 away from that being you

2023-02-09 12:13

All those talents and cant do nothing in major,katowice and cologne for years.Everyone who watched Vitality match knew that guy can’t called and he constantly losing Vitality a lot of round because his dumb movement.

2023-02-09 11:39

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it was the same story with Alex, bro was getting carried so hard by ZywOo casters and analysts were like "what a great IGL"

2023-02-09 12:06

Exactly said by someone who has no idea what he is talking about So you'd have someone give away stupid deaths than keep so called 'NPCs'? Thank God you're not a GM of any team Hooxi may not frag out but atleast he uses the talents on his team and calls a fantastic T side.

2023-02-09 12:13

Apex has a good understanding of the game at the macro-level but terrible at the micro-level + big ADHD

2023-02-09 12:15

apEX is the soul of Vitality , he's exactly the IGL every team needs - it's not always his fault if they lose. They only need to replace dupreeh imo , zonic is a good coach and Magisk has his values I still believe in him. device or blameF wouldve been nice addition if they wanna get a danish guy again

2023-02-09 12:16

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+1 on the soul part , orgs like having core members represeting their roster , that being said , he does have many negatives , like his calling and his low fragging power dupreeh has to go , k0nfig was out there but they did not pick him up , unlucky

2023-02-09 12:28

Apex is the rock tied to the neck of vitality, can you all just stop defending the cunt who is around there just cause he can do nothing but milking tier1 scene. If he retires he cannot be analyst like maniac did, he can't be a coach cause he's mentally ill and unstable at times (idk maybe it's french thing but if I had such a character screaming for no apparent reason, I'd be pretty pissed), McDonalds enjoyer is the only option.

2023-02-09 12:42

Apex stats have continued to drop over the last 2 years and his calling has gotten worse compared to competition they dont feel cohesive as a team and thats largely on him

2023-02-09 12:32