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why no polish superteam yet?
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Ukraine Kellso 
so many tier 3 polish teams. why not make one ultimate polish team that will try their best resurrecting polish scene? Take fucking TaZ as coach and gather best polish players around him siuhy IGL hades/mhL AWP reiko dycha Kei / Kylar Why this is not a thing still?
2023-02-16 11:09
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#1
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Poland Obajtek
contract problems, u can't get a player for free right
2023-02-16 11:10
20 replies
#3
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Ukraine Kellso
throw money at them then?
2023-02-16 11:11
19 replies
#6
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Poland Obajtek
they need to make money from throwing games
2023-02-16 11:13
3 replies
#7
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Ukraine Kellso
polish teams are known matchfixers? that's sad then
2023-02-16 11:14
2 replies
all tier 3 teams are known matchfixers
2023-02-16 11:15
1 reply
+1
2023-02-16 21:39
#12
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Germany Germen
whats the point of creating a superstar team if you go bankrupt while doing so
2023-02-16 11:20
13 replies
#13
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Ukraine Kellso
how come? all those players won't cost much and their salary will not go higher than 2-3k$/month
2023-02-16 11:22
12 replies
wtf 2-3k a month is salary of tier 5 team Siuhy is earning probably around 6-7k a month in GL Dycha around 15-20k a month in ENCE (normal tier 1 salary is 20k) MhL is earning probably around same as siuhy if they want new tier 1 team 20k per player is minimum this is not 2014 anymore S1mple ZywOo and NiKo are earning 50k a month while other tier 1 pros (YEKINDAR Nexa Degster Brollan) around 20k-30k some newer/worse tier 1 pros like (NEOFRAG) are earning around 15k tier 2 pros usually around 5k all the way to 10k depens on team wages in csgo are becoming higher and higher every year from few hundred dollars in 2013 to multi million contracts with sponsors and 50k a month salary . BTW 50k a month was s1mple salary in 2021 before he renewed his contract with navi who knows how much is it now!
2023-02-16 11:56
11 replies
#26
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Serbia Ljannister
He is actually right. Many T1 and T2 teams pay their players by performance but basic salary can be 2-3k $. Neofrag averaging 15k is nonsence. Dunno where you het this info from but it's far from realistic
2023-02-16 12:10
4 replies
avg salary in tier 1 is 15-20k it depens on teams some teams like Apeks pay their players 10k while some teams like Sprout pay 5k its not true 2-3k is salary for tier 2-3 newbie or unknown player avg salary in tier 1 is 20k obviusly players in FaZe earn 30k while players in MOUZ probably 10k but still most top 15 teams pay around 20k . it really depens if the org is big brand or just some small org Apeks is famous for paying their players too much while almost every CIS org pay their players 2-3k (1Win IKLA ForZe) 2-3k was salary in tier 1 in 2014 2-3k was realistic salary in tirr 2 in 2018-19 right now every top 30 team pay their players more than 5k CR4ZY (our superteam from balkan) ceo Antonio Meic talked about how much it cost to run esport org and he sayed it cost around 500k-700k a year (in 2019) which means players+coach+manager+directors Other expenses - 50k manager - 25k coach - 25k players - 80k * 5 = 400k this information was from 2019 and yet players were earning 6.5k a month in not very rich team imagine wages in 2023 for tier 2 team is pribably 5-10k
2023-02-16 12:21
#53
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Finland aleksiii
well brehze and cerq make dj salaries
2023-02-16 13:14
2 replies
#59
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Serbia Ljannister
Yea, milking EG but its rare
2023-02-16 14:18
#68
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Pakistan LoOuU2
That's EG being EG
2023-02-16 15:29
#31
F1KU | 
Poland Brisu
someone said, meybe ropz that salaries are lower nowadays than it was in 2017
2023-02-16 12:13
2 replies
nonsense S1mple and NiKo earns 50k a month idk who was earning that money in 2017
2023-02-16 12:22
I think ropz said that tournament prize money is a nice bonus on top of salaries. Dont quote me on that though
2023-02-16 12:44
#45
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Slovakia kiddtokyo
Imagine thinkinh neofrag makes 15k a month 😂😂😂
2023-02-16 12:45
Idk about the avg t1 pro salary, that obviously depends on the org, role, potential, contract etc. But i think yekindar is propably earning more than 20k, hes liquids saviour after all and mist certainly had other options as well. And its liquid who have infinite money;D
2023-02-16 12:45
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YEKI around 30k he got offers from G2 NAVI and almost every team
2023-02-16 12:49
#56
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Other B0OMER
there is no one in poland with that amount of money (even for 1 player like dycha, not even talking about all 5) and from international, why would anyone risk putting loads of money into a scene thats been dead since 2018
2023-02-16 13:21
siuhy snax hades dycha kei i'd love that ;p
2023-02-16 11:12
2 replies
don't put snax in any polish super team anymore, i noticed one thing about his teams, when he is in a team the snipers are becoming worse, for example snatchie, without snax - hltv.org/stats/players/matches/9574/snat.. without snax - hltv.org/stats/players/matches/9574/snat.. without snax - hltv.org/stats/players/matches/9574/snat.. with snax - hltv.org/stats/players/matches/9574/snat.. with snax - hltv.org/stats/players/matches/9574/snat..
2023-02-16 11:17
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#11
Snax | 
Poland xBG1
its only snatchie example, snax as an igl preffering to play more freestyle, not so much stricted, snatchie preffer to play more structure game, thats why he was playing bad with snax in team, they dont like each other game vision
2023-02-16 11:19
Neo Taz Pascha Byali Snax
2023-02-16 11:13
2 replies
#10
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Poland Obajtek
Pasia xDD
2023-02-16 11:17
1 reply
Dude stop laundering money with Orlen
2023-02-16 12:10
snax siuhy dycha hades ???
2023-02-16 11:23
2 replies
F1KU
2023-02-16 11:50
#40
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Poland Xodiac
Why everyone putting snax he is washed already
2023-02-16 12:23
WHERE IS F1KU
2023-02-16 11:48
#17
F1KU | 
Poland Brisu
Lack of determination? Everybody talking about doing superteam but nobody is determined enough to take on this challenge
2023-02-16 11:51
4 replies
#18
ropz | 
India psn46
Polish scene boring
2023-02-16 11:53
3 replies
indian scene word.exe
2023-02-16 11:57
2 replies
#23
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India psn46
Forsaken > All
2023-02-16 12:03
1 reply
yes mu bruda
2023-02-16 12:04
#20
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Poland Roxin
9INE is going to resurrect Polish scene soon
2023-02-16 11:56
1 reply
#28
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Serbia Ljannister
ngl i became a fan, they play good and i like lineup
2023-02-16 12:12
#25
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Germany who|cars
snax jw flusha maxster mantu toao coach
2023-02-16 12:06
#29
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Serbia Ljannister
idk if there is 5 good polish players but dycha siuhy mhl/mantuu +2 dzywdywydwyzk surnames and it can work
2023-02-16 12:13
9 replies
#33
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Canada K1nGoldY
Korkeisnikoviscavic
2023-02-16 12:14
8 replies
#35
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Serbia Ljannister
it can work but we need more w,y,x,z and k consonants
2023-02-16 12:15
7 replies
#39
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Canada K1nGoldY
How about Jonathan Jablonowski and Peter jarguz :)
2023-02-16 12:23
6 replies
Stanislaw washed
2023-02-16 14:28
5 replies
#64
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Canada K1nGoldY
You have the ability to make him dirty again
2023-02-16 15:17
4 replies
sadly i do not
2023-02-16 15:28
3 replies
#69
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Canada K1nGoldY
Yes you can do it , he's a vegan, send him non veg pics on snap
2023-02-16 15:30
2 replies
i dont have snapchat
2023-02-16 15:31
1 reply
#72
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Canada K1nGoldY
Only fans
2023-02-16 17:38
#30
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Canada K1nGoldY
Team singualrity is back so that's one tier 1 polish team for you
2023-02-16 12:13
Geez, when will people learn that having 5 great individual players doesn't make a great team? Look at prime Astralis - while they were all better invidually than now, only Device could be considered superstar, the rest was either good or very good, but not stars like Zywoo, S1mple, Monesy or Niko. Their chemistry and in-game cooperation though was suberb. If you just put them on paper vs. e.g. Faze of that time ( Karrigan, rain, Niko, Guardian, olof), Faze was stronger with individual power on paper yet still came short in games with Astralis. You have to find a proper mix of players who are obviously good enough individually, but more important is how they understand each other in-game, whether they feel good together on the server and most likely outside of it as well. Look at current Honoris - with grandpa Taz and Lunatic on paper they should be closer to top 100 than top 50 but they almost qualified for next IEM beating ENCE and almost beating BIG, now qualified for RMR quals. There were even close to top 50 with awfully performing Grashog. The system and flow between players create synergy giving higher results than individual skills could.
2023-02-16 12:14
There is no org with money in PL. Also there are no top tier players from PL. Ofc snax or dych can play on good lvl but its 50/50 if they choke or not
2023-02-16 12:15
Name one tier1 player from Poland
2023-02-16 12:18
6 replies
#44
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Poland DDW777
dycha ez
2023-02-16 12:44
4 replies
Yeah, forgot about him Name two tier 1 players from Poland
2023-02-16 13:09
3 replies
#58
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Poland DDW777
dycha, hades
2023-02-16 13:43
2 replies
No, that's one
2023-02-16 21:05
1 reply
#80
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Poland DDW777
major semi-finalist, finalist of EPL, IEM DALLAS tier 9999 for sure
2023-02-16 21:38
Dycha, hades, siuhy, rest are t1.5 like mhl, f1ku,snax, kylar, reiko etc
2023-02-16 12:48
"Superteams" don't seem to work out
2023-02-16 12:34
Kind of gamble isnt it, lacks of igl and superstar material from pl
2023-02-16 12:43
2 replies
#54
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Poland throwing
Karrigan put siuhy as igl in his superteam. Superstar is not role or position.
2023-02-16 13:17
1 reply
"lacks", true about superstar but who said that it limited to roles?
2023-02-16 14:28
Everyone keeps forgetting about rallen, most underrated player
2023-02-16 12:50
1 reply
+1
2023-02-16 21:44
#50
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Poland bisql
Dycha Siuhy Hades Kylar/Sobol Reiko Vins/Nawrot coach Curently 9ine can easily reach top20/top15 so I think with a bit of luck it is top10 team, Polish fans after years of nothing, don't have big hopes
2023-02-16 12:59
1 reply
#62
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Poland woey
+1
2023-02-16 14:30
polish counter-strike died after virtus pro, out of 2-3 normal players you can’t make tier 1 team
2023-02-16 13:20
#63
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Norway Snaids
did michu die or something
2023-02-16 14:31
1 reply
#85
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Poland bisql
He is 26 yo talent:)
2023-02-20 12:58
#65
swag | 
Cyprus Porgos
These players would have more individual success in international tteams than any polish team
2023-02-16 15:20
all the good polish players get poached by bigger orgs
2023-02-16 15:36
#74
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United States KhanQu3st
They aren’t that good yet?
2023-02-16 19:48
Why do many foreigners see TaZ as a coach? We have many good coaches already
2023-02-16 21:10
polish superteam? so basically big but worse?
2023-02-16 21:16
#83
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Ireland Sodaking
bro Polish Csgo has been shit ever since Original Virtus Pro folded
2023-02-16 21:46
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