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1. Vegan Pad Thai: This popular Thai dish is made with rice noodles, tofu, vegetables, and a tangy sauce made from tamarind, lime, and peanut butter.
2. Lentil Soup: This hearty soup is made with lentils, vegetables, and spices, and is a great source of protein and fiber.
3. Vegan Chili: This classic comfort food is made with beans, vegetables, and spices, and can be customized with your favorite toppings, such as avocado, vegan sour cream, and vegan cheese.
4. Vegan Tacos: These tacos are made with spiced black beans, avocado, salsa, and your favorite toppings, such as chopped cilantro and lime juice.
5. Vegan Curry: This flavorful dish is made with vegetables, coconut milk, and curry powder, and can be served over rice or quinoa for a filling and nutritious meal.
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+1 and hummus!
falafel is best with cacik or zaziki sauce, which is definitely not vegan tho)
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there isnt any decent vegan replacement for yoghurt. some vegan things are alright i guess bcs they taste the same as the regular stuff but not yoghurt.
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Skyr is and it absolutely is close to yoghurt
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not even close. tbh i have not tasted any vegan skyr but even if i did believe that it tastes like regular skyr (which to be clear i dont believe that), skyr is traditionally a product made from the almost fat free parts of milk while the fat was split off to make butter.
cacik or tzatziki is made with thick yoghurt with like 10% fat content. this is nowhere near comparable in terms of taste or nutritional composition.
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Burger with real Beef
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you got beef with beef or smth my boy?
only real beef is actual beef, but he used the term "real" to highlight that he is not talking about some kind of fake vegan beef (which as discussed isnt really beef).
are u this thick?
NA brain...
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Most people.
Everyone with tastebuds
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YES!
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protein intake need is vastly overrated by the body building community. building muscle is all about hormone levels. there's studies that show people on steroids who aren't even lifting weights will gain more muscle than people not on steroids but lifting weights. if you wanna gain muscle as a vegan, you need to optimize your testosterone levels, either through diet + supplements or through dat der juice. 100 grams of protein a day is more than enough for body builders and you can easily attain that with a vegan diet if you eat what I mentioned in the previous post.
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You can't substitute eggs and chicken. Also taking steroids without doing exercises won't give you muscles because first is making the process of second faster due to chemical changes in your body, but the second is reachable with or without it. They are not equal. I mean, I'm NOT arguing with you, it's just my point of view and I must say that I can be wrong. Also I easily can believe that our body is so universal, that can adapt to almost any type of food. But in the perfect world I would prefer getting every necessary "component" instead of 2 of 3
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you can substitute eggs and chicken. you don't need to eat meat or animal products to get the 9 amino acids your body isn't capable of making.
nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM1996070433..
it was demonstrated that you don't need to lift weights while taking steroids to gain muscle.
let me ask you, do pitbulls lift weights? the answer is obviously no, so why do pitbulls have more muscle than other dog breeds like yellow labs, the answer is hormones.
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True, I once cought My friends pit benching 140kg when he wasnt home
You can't substitute eggs and chicken because there is nothing to substitute if you already have proper balanced diet. Also even meat eaters who care about their health usually take supplements anyway.
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Im quite sure he meant because of amino acids
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If you're vegan and worry about not getting all needed the amino acids from food, take a look at maxler's vegan protein, it's plant based and has even better amino profile than whey isolate. And as far as I remember it's even cheaper (people says vegan stuff is usually more expensive) but I can be wrong.
My diet is mostly plant-based, but personally I prefer whey because it's better for my stomatch though. Also I'm too lazy to bother with all that "amino acids" stuff, I gained almost 10 kg of (more or less) lean mass in the last 3 months, so I think I'm fine.
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Hemp protein is the best imo
At least here in Denmark the processed plant-based products is quite expensive. I still avoid the plantsteaks, plant minced meat etc cause the taste and texture is not there yet. I get my protein from a good mixture of lentils, kidneybeans, oats, falafel, soymilk (mainly because its the only plantmilk containing protein. They somehow removed protein from all almondmilk). When im at my parents or friends i eat whats being served. So 90% vegan here.
Imma check that Maxler`s out.
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Processed is kind shit imo, to many additives, on top of being to expensive and they try to make it as close to the real thing and it's just not. My issue with vegan is just that it can get to repetetive
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I agree with both things you said. I do understand why they try to make the taste and texture close to real meat, because i believe most vegans still like the taste of real meat, they just choose not to eat it. If i could buy the plantmeat Burkerking are using i would buy it. That's so good.
The reason why it's hard to get creative with vegan food, is not that theres not enough variety of meals you can make. Theres thousands.
For me it's the protein source which gets repetitive for me. I sure can get tired of lentils, beans, tofu etc
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We don't have Burgerking here I'd be open to try it tho once I get the chance, and yeah that's what I'm saying it's just Hard to get the macros right and not get bored of beans and lentils, to carb and fat heavy I often Lose 5+ kg when fasting in 40 days since I lower my Food intake to 1 small meal plus a snack of nuts. I usualy eat from 2 - 6 and that is a big enough window for me to eat a small meal - snack - large meal, but when I'm fasting (religious) My large meal would be overstufed with carbs so I Just skip it, since I'm not to big on soy
I hate to bring the bad news, but the "soy increases estrogen" theory is complete bullshit. I read multiple scientific studies and all debunked that myth.
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you're not bringing bad news, you're bringing bad science that is funded by the people who sell you soy. a little bit of soy and phytoestrogens in moderation isn't going to turn you into a discord moderator but having a diet full of it could. there's a reason why soy is being put in every processed product and animal feed.
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ah ok. who do you know my sources?
and I guess you get your information from the unbiased "real" objective scientists, funded by nobody.
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do you really think you're the first person who's ever "debunked" soy raising estrogen levels? it's basic science. phytoestrogens have estrogenic effects. it's why they're called phytoestrogens. soy is very high in them, especially in some processed forms. it would be very easy for me to create a diet study where I cherry picked candidates and controlled conditions to get whatever result I wanted, it's why most diet studies are complete BS and unreliable. they track one factor and leave out everything else. for example, there's plenty of known ways to lower estrogen and raise test, if I wanted to create a study where I showed soy had little effect on estrogen levels, I would find athletes with naturally high testosterone who work out regularly and eat a lot of red meat, I would then make them eat tofu as well which actually has less phytoestrogens than something like soy protein isolate or the soy meal that is fed to animals, at the end of the study their estrogen levels would barely change and I would have "scientific evidence" that soy doesn't change estrogen levels. 99.9% of diet related studies are dumb and pseudoscience for these reasons.
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so your infos come from the 0.1% thats descend and trustworthy??
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haha :) I actually have a degree in chemistry. you are talking to the wrong guy my friend :)
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doubtful. if you did you'd understand how phytoestrogens raise estrogenic activity by activating estrogen receptors in the body. while they do tend to be weaker estrogens than what is naturally produced, you can still overload your estrogen receptors by consuming large amounts of high phytoestrogenic food like soy or flax seeds and also create a hormonal imbalance by depriving yourself of the necessary buiding blocks of testosterone, zinc/copper/vitamind/magnesium/cholesterol/sleep. if you had a chemistry degree, you would understand these chemical reactions and how important they are for men, especially developing men and children. a little phytoestrogens in the diet isn't bad, but problems can arise when you eat a standard western diet that is full of processed soy and lacks the aforementioned nutrients to build healthy testosterone, such problems are becoming a femboy at worst and timothee chalomet at best.
Just because they are called phytoestrogens doesnt mean it has similar effects to estrogen. The molecules are very similar but guess what. Testosterone also has a very similar molecular structure. So it doesnt mean shit. If I remember correctly you would have to eat about 50 blocks of tofu a day to see any noticable effects of the phytoestrogens on your body. I dont think anybody does so do with that what you want.
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working out/physical activity naturally decreases estrogen levels. some people have higher levels of testosterone naturally. not all sources of soy contain the same amount of phytoestrogens. this guys experiment means absolutely nothing.
I could easily create a scenario where I found someone who was naturally low in test and fed him a diet that lacked all the nutrients to build testosterone in his body and filled him up with phytoestrogens instead.. what do you think his hormone levels would look like when we went to test them?
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I see you made your mind and won't accept any arguments. So not gonna trying to prove you anything. You're free to think what you want. I'm leaving to gym. :D
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it's basic chemistry.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogen
"Phytoestrogens exert their effects primarily through binding to estrogen receptors (ER).[14] There are two variants of the estrogen receptor, alpha (ER-a) and beta (ER-B) and many phytoestrogens display somewhat higher affinity for ER-B compared to ER-a"
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I never said abstain, I said avoided. phytoestrogens in moderation are not a problem and actually beneficial, you need estrogen, and they come with food that has other beneficial compounds. problems arise when soy gets put in everything, start reading labels on the processed products you buy and you'll find that soy derivatives are in the majority of products. when you get phytoestrogens in excess and a lack of testosterone supporting nutrients, you start to see problems. you should definitely abstain from non-organic soy though, glyphosate is poison.
Soy won't do anything with your testosterone/estrogen levels unless you're genetically sensitive to phytoestrogens in soy which is rare case.
I'm not fan of soy myself (for other reasons), but "soy increases estrogen in men" is a myth. Also many people consume milk (or products with milk) which probably has a lot more estrogen in it.
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stop spreading nonsense. you don't have to be "genetically sensitive" to phytoestrogens for them to have an estrogenic effect in your body after consumption. they bind to estrogen receptors because they are structurally very similar to estrogen. everybody has those receptors, not just the "genetically sensitive" which is something you made up to sound smart.
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Okay. :)
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Yeah, I used to drink soy milk (250-300 ml) and eat a bit of tofu daily, my testosterone levels were fine according to blood tests.
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99.9% of nutrition research is basically pseudoscience. i'll just ignore the inaccuracies of the methods that are used to acquire data and instead talk about how correlation doesn't equal causation. nutritional research will isolate foods or compounds and take a group of people and draw a conclusion based on correlation and call it science. for example nutrition research states that green tea makes you live longer because of a study of 40k people who drank 2-3 cups of green tea a day lived longer than those that didn't. well is it really the green tea that made people live longer? or is it that asian people drink green tea and they don't eat processed american food and are probably more physically active than americans. these types of studies ignore that there is much more to the processes they're measuring than just that specific thing they're measuring alone. do you see what I'm saying? you should take nutritional research with a grain of salt and only really look at stuff that measures specific chemical reactions in highly controlled studies.
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for half a century people believed saturated fats, red meat and cholesterol were bad for you. there's still people that do actually, scientists even. why? because of nutritional "research".
>but when a large number of studies independently observe the same phenomenon, it can be hardly explained as a correlation
it actually can.
it's funny, speaking of correlation, in another post in this thread someone is talking about how soy is sooo good for because people who consume soy have less risk of prostate cancer.. do you know what studies show who is most at risk of prostate cancer? men with high testosterone. funny.
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this is at the top of the comment chain
"The Estrogen in Soy doin absolute nothing to you ... the last 50k Studys didnt find any evidence that the Estrogen Level are rising"
granted it's not you, you seem to be sideing with the statement when you say
"I see your point, but when a large number of studies independently observe the same phenomenon, it can be hardly explained as a correlation"
Just link 5 of those thousands
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the problem with these "studies" that "debunk" soy having estrogenic effects make the incorrect claim that because soy doesn't raise serum estrogen levels, it is not having an estrogenic effect. soy has a boat load of phytoestrogrens (plant chemicals which are basically the same structure as estrogen) that are absorbed by your body and attach themselves to estrogren receptors in your body which in turn activate, but it's not that simple because in some types of estrogen receptors the phytoestrogens have an anti-estrogenic effect, and not all phytoestrogens are the same chemical, and there's different types of estrogen receptors in the body. do you now see how this biological mechanism could lead to estrogenic effects in your body and become a problem with overeating phytoestrogens? phytoestrogens in moderation is perfectly fine and even beneficial but problems arise when soy is added to a big portion of processed product like it is in america these days and can contribute to hormonal imbalances, especially when you consider the necessary nutrients to create testosterone are lacking in the western diet as evidenced by the lowering testosterone levels of men.
you can easily find the studies by yourself.
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You werent asked to copy a wiki article or whatever but to link only 5 of those supposedly 1000s of studies. Somehow I'm not able to find any renounced ones. So pls, link 5.
Also, what is the problem with lower testosterone levels anyway? I don't know about you, but I feel like asians doing pretty fine despite eating soy about a few thousand years longer than us westerners.
>Too much estrogen
>Should be avoided
Makes no sense. It should be encouraged to eat it.
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mommy! whele is ma estrogen 🥺
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Its proto estrogen and acts as anti inflamatory on tissues and this properties as been proven to decrease the risk of protaste cancer by not leting it swell. No need to be fingered by a doctor later in life
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do you want to keep talking about hormonal sensitive cancers? what about breast cancer? do you actually understand these processes or are you just quoting some blogger whos quoting some journalist whos quoting some "study" they don't understand?
not all forms of estrogen have a beneficial effect on prostate cancer, but those estrogen metabolites that do are also found in high levels of men with breast cancer.. so there's that.. are you an ass man or a boob man?
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pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29300347/
i know how to make my own research my angry little friend
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not all forms of estrogen have a beneficial effect on prostate cancer, but those estrogen metabolites that do are also found in high levels of men with breast cancer.. so there's that.. are you an ass man or a boob man?
try reading my post fully before you respond little adhd bro.
those same metabolites of estrogen that are found in people with lower risks for prostate cancer are at a higher risk of breast cancer because of the estrogen receptors in breast tissue.
also whats fucking hilarious about what you're choosing to use as an argument is that prostate cancer is higher in people with high testosterone levels... so I really, really wonder why people who eat a lot of soy get less prostate cancer.. I wonder if it's because they have lower testosterone..
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Lentils contains more protein than beef
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No idea bro!! Also, i only buy them dried.
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A 100-gram serving of cooked chicken breast contains about 31 grams of protein, while a 100-gram serving of cooked lentils contains about 9 grams of protein.
Therefore, to get the same amount of protein as a chicken breast (31 grams), one would need to eat approximately 344 grams (31 divided by 9) of cooked lentils.
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I don't eat vegan because I eat a lot of cheese and yogurt, but I do abstain from meat and otherwise have a favorite vegan-qualified food that I eat every day.
It is called
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Bread.
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Drinking urine is not vegan?
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if i can get a gorilla do sign a paper consenting to being eaten, can i eat it?
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Vegan lifestyle existed since the existence of humans.
Gladiators were vegetarian, Indian empires and so on.
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Meat is substituted with meat-like flavors and textures for ages. Seitan dates back about 1500 years.
yes and most gladiators (unlike in the modern Hollywood movies) were fat as hell because if you stab someone who is fat it has a smaller chance of hitting the organs so the gladiator is going to die slower than someone who is lean, i dont think that is a good argument.
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Thats actually most likely factual bc Gladiators used to slice each other rather than stab and it's harder to kill someone with slices who has layers of fat than someone who is lean. The owners of Gladiator school did not Like their slaves geting killed for nothing
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My top5:
Broccoli
Coconut / coconut milk
Pistachio nuts
Chia seeds
Dark chocolate
I myself am not vegan though, I eat 2-3 eggs and 1-2 servings of whey protein daily, but haven't ate meat/fish/chicken/etc for the last 12+ years.
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nice, if i ever went vegan id go for raw foods like this instead of eating the shittier versions of normal food
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Yep, whole foods ftw. I prefer as minimal processing as possible. Also saves time cooking.
Believe me, you wouldn't. Raw is funny and "exciting" every now and then, but it limites the variety too much
why not eat fish???
(i understand normal meat because of the torture or religious reasons or you might be worried about cholesterol) but fish are literally some of the healthiest food on the planet (especially salmon - it has so many good fats, high quality protein, minerals, vitamins, ...)
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I have been eating full vegan for many years and it gave me good results. I added eggs not because I lack something in plant-based diet but only because I switched to keto, and vegan keto was kinda boring and too limited, with eggs I just have more variations of what to cook/eat.
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yeah but why dont you try salmon? or if you want leaner pieces some cod or any other white fish? thats good option for keto too + its really healthy
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I don't want/need to, also don't like taste/smell.
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understandable, but if you ever reconsider i recommend salmon/cod (my 2 favourite fish)
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Haha, ok m8, ty. :D
The torture with fish is kinda the same btw
Just not that present in our minds as it is with cows, etc these days. Yet..
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poor bugs die when vegetables are grown :////
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Happens with as conventional farming as well. Plus, the rain forest for soy to feed lifestock. Your point is?
Gtfo troll.
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charcoal grill, right?
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only if it made by hairy turkish big boy
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Brrr skibididob yes yes yes yes W W W W
Can confirm. lentil soup is delicious
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lentil soup is the most delicious if u eat it with sausage. also it gets better a lot if u fry up some bacon first and or stew some pork in it.
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ive written here that many people in indonesia usually not vegan by choice, but forced by their financial condition. Meat is simply too pricey for them. We have many non-meat food option tho, and still delicious.
Behold one of our so called "kearifan lokal" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempeh
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i never heard of it, and if it available in indonesia, we wont call it seitan bcs it translate to demon or devil
after quick search, my guess is correct, it cant even be southeast asian food bcs we cant grow wheat here. but wont western people terrified of it? with the perceived unhealthiness of gluten or whatever
uuhm grass?
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mooooh
Lentil soup is heaven
1. Beluga lentil bolognese
2. Red lentil curry
3. This seitan recipe: youtube.com/watch?v=yxNaThLDrsk
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5. HLTV's lunch plan
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falafel + hummus (even better: beet root hummus) is my go to vegan food.
What I eat:
1. Quinoa +lentils + potatoes + onions and tomatoes + pepper sauce (daily lunch, high protein)
2. peanut butter jelly sandwich (high protein as well)
3. yakisoba with tofu or seitan
4. granola with berries
also if you have a date and want to cook something fancy I suggest:
1. mushroom risotto with a little bit of white wine
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Flag + avg. IQ map
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u just dismissed vegan food as unreal. thats not really hating but it kind of is.
What is a real food though?
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so funny hahahahahah!
I think generally a balanced diet is healthier, but admire those who can stick with being vegetarian or vegan. I have read that 84% of vegetarians/vegans abandon their diet. About a third (34%) of lapsed vegetarians/vegans maintained the diet for three months or less. Slightly more than half (53%) adhered to the diet for less than one year.
Out of my 2 friends started being vegetarian/vegan, one went back to normal diet, the other one needed to add fish to their diet.
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1. Anemia
2. Leaky gut
3. Vitamin deficiencies
4. Stroke
5. Death - Finally!
#GoVegan
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want to hear a joke?
3rd generation vegan
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0/8 bad bait
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BR brain, do you even understand the joke? it's not bait wtf, 3rd generation vegan doesnt exist, thats the joke.
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Yeah, I understand, my 0/8 was to go along with it, but now we get who has the peanut brainie my friend, have a nice weekend, peace ;)
A vegan diet consisting of a variety of minimally refined plant foods focusing on legumes and whole grains for the bulk of calories and macros has been proven in clinical trials to be the optimal human diet and has a long list of health benefits.
This is more of less the optimal diet according to nutrition science atm
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It is ok if you are a rabbit. Peace my animal friend ;)
there are like 500 counterstudies and 500 counterstudies to the counterstudies and each counterstudy has 500 counterstudies tbf. so u cant really prove anything at all referring to this or that study.
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Big Broccoli and Big Soybean is worse than Big Beef and Big Dairy
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you should not always only look at who is funding what.
my personal "opinion" on the topic for example is that u should definitely steer clear of any processed foods and animal products from the big companies.
but that is not to say that i follow the easy arguments against that by the vegan lobby. i think animal products are superior if they come from happy healthy animals that were raised in the most natural way possible.
see i can think animal protein is superior to lentil protein and still not follow the big corporation bullshit. thats just one example.
i'm fascinated by "ideal diets" so thanks for sharing. ironically i've heard both vegan diets and meat-only diets being described as optimal, although they both share avoiding processed foods.
but why do you think humans evolved as omnivores if it's apparently healthier to avoid meat?
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a proper lentil soup has bacon, stewed pork and at least one sausage per serving.
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even if ur a muselman, u can put a beef sausage or whatever. stew some other crap in it.
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but they do eat dals and other oriental lentil dishes not as main dishes usually, like u would a lentil soup here. and while granted in india it might still end up a vegetarian meal in a lot of cases, in muslim countries you will usually have meats.
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i didnt say they put meat in the soup, i said they dont eat the soup as the main dish and combine it with meat dishes.
being vegan is not healthy.
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It can be if you take supplements in correct amount I guess
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more than enough people will claim the opinion that a supplement almost conceptually can never be as good as the real thing from minimally processed natural produce.
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+1 Should be used out of necessity but not a replacement for the real thing(s)
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meat is not harming your health if its coming from healthy happy animals that were raised in the most natural way and processed in the most humane way.
or let me at least say that there are lots of people that support this statement.
and from an environmental point of view many have now understood that we need lifestock as long as we raise it properly. animals can be a hugely beneficial piece in the greater ecosystem.
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I didn't say that you can't be healthy while eating meat and it's not my point, my point is why should we keep killing animals while we have a healthy and cheap food alternative that doesn't require killing as much animals as animal farming.
Therefore not eating meat is more economically, ecologically and ethically sustainable. There is no beneficial at all to keep going with animal farming.
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i explained most of that in the second paragraph. vegan farming can never be as good as animal farming bcs of the insane benefit for the environment u can get with animals.
and regarding healthy eating habits also everything has been said: you are welcome to think vegan is the healthiest option, but there are a lot of people that have a different opinion and its by no means the case that this topic is finished being discussed.
all that vegans can prove pretty much is that a healthy vegan diet is healthier than the standard american diet with cheap meat and mass processed foods.
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Are you aware that all scientific sources claims that animal farming is alot more harmful to the environment than plant farming? Including IPCC ?
We don't care about peoples opinions about what they think or not about how healthy vegan is, opinions doesn't mean anything. Opinions are insignificant against scientific proofs which all claims than plant based ( vegan ) is healthier or as healthy as omnivore diet and more sustainable environmentally.
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i am aware that most current animal farming is a lot more destructive to the environment. are u aware that i was talking about healthy happy animals that are raised in an environmentally sensitive way?
are you aware that this type of farming with animals used in the correct way beats your conventional farming by so much that its not even close?
it doesnt matter whether u feed soy beans or grains to cows or whether u eat them urself. the process of large scale mono crop farming is whats super destructive to the planet, you just need less of it if you eat the animal feed urself rather than eating the animals after.
get cows to eat grass, and make them do rotational grazing in silvopasture systems. you will build more soil and be actively beneficial to the environment as opposed to any type of farming that needs large machinery and chemicals.
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Are you aware that you can't feed the whole population by having small animal farms? It's literally impossible, also it would take way too much land and ressources.
Are you aware that animals that are fed soy is not the same soy that humans are eating? These animals are eating GMO's soy from Brazil genetically modified to grow bigger and faster, this soy that animals are eating is deforesting amazonia. While the soy humans eat is ecologically sustainable, alot of soy been grown in France for Human consumption.
Everytime you buy a steak in supermarket, you are pretty much giving money to finance the deforesting process in Amazonia.
Cow's farts are heavily polluting air and ecologically destructive therefore, small cows farms isn't a possibility either.
This guy right here, is a perfect example of cognitive dissonance
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Nothing you eat today that isnt homegrown is really healthy.
4/5 of them need the word vegan at the start, they aren't vegan dishes you just removed the meat from a meal that would be nicer if you didnt.
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Not true. I.e. Chilli was meatless at the start because meat was too expensive for poor farmers
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mushroom mushroom
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That's as natural as it gets B)
Based list
"Top 5 of restricted bad foods"
Vegan Tacos with bacon
1) who asked
2) Imma go get some nice ground beef for dinner
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Isnt it traditionally with gee?
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Nah, i know how ghee tastes from years back before i went vegan. But i was mentioning it because it isn't vegan which i feel the lack of it makes (my) attempts of recreating a lot india recipes not so good...
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I am not sure about the difference between vegan and vegetarian. Ghee is vegetarian, it comes from milk.
If you are trying to make Indian recipes, use spices, I mean a lot of spices of different kinds, in right proportion ofcourse.
Suggestion: Try to make masala kulcha next time.
PS - There are hundreds of Indian veg dishes, have you tried jackfruit?
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Vegetarian = no meat but dairy products like milk, eggs, cheese,...
Vegan = no animal involved whatsoever
So ghee being some sort of "butter" is something i don't eat.
But yeah, spices are key. And jackfruit rules.
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In this thread you can see the irony when some people say vegans are the ones who are fanatic about what they eat.
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Yep. I'm so proud of HLTV community.
Its like that every time. Subcontiously, most omnivores not only know that it is wrong to eat/exploit animals but fear the day when its publicly frown upon.
Lentil soup and these tacos are based. Lentil soup is better when cooked in beef broth though
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meat
eggs
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I agree, and some Vegan Alternitves are still good but dont name them the same as their Dairy/Meat counterpart. Like for example i recently had Vegan Feta cheese, it tasted nothing like Feta(neither in taste or texture) but it was still pretty good tasting altho it was noting like its Dairy Counterpart
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Not if you want steak. Unless you wanna eat one of those lab-grown steaks but I wouldn't trust that.
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That's just wrong not an opinion it's just incorrect.
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That's just your opinion.
And i bet you didn't even have good steak alternatives.
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There are no alternatives to steak.
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Case in point. Bye.
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Go eat Schwab's bugs and lab-grown nonsense.
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Ok mr tinfoil.
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Ok Mr Sheep the world was literally shut for 2 years because of a fake virus and you don't believe there's an agenda being pushed
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Oh boi. Sure, we could argue whether the measures were on point, but how can you ignore not only 99% of scientists and doctors around the world, but also millions of dead ppl?
Earth is flat, right? Moon landing fake and reptiloids live in the inner part of the earth. Oh wait, how thick is this disk?
I have to agree. These plastic steaks are simply trash and full of unnatural substances. It’s not that healthy to eat red meat but if I had the choice always meat > lab meat
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The red meat being unhealthy is a government psyop. Most of the links to cancer and science on saturated and unsaturated fats are heavily disputed.
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You can actually look up what’s healthy by checking the AGE score (advanced glycation end products). I doubt most of the people eat their meat raw so the score I pretty high at meat.
Also the most meat you get in stores are from factory farming. If you get a good steak of a cow who just ate fresh and green grass without getting antibiotics and all the unhealthy food to gain weight as much as possible it’s a whole different story.
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Oxford University actually has been studying 100% exclusive meat diets since the 1930s and all trials showed health benefits such as weight loss, muscle mass increase and these studies have been run for around 90 years.
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I think there are more circumstances to beware of than just saying „meat is healthy in every aspect“.
For example as I said: where does that it come from. How it’s cooked. And so on … I know some people who ate a lot of meat and now they are dealing with arthritis
Couldnt be more wrong here.
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So lab meat > meat ?
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Eventually that will be the case, I'm pretty sure.
But i was referring to the idea that was made out of plastic and not organic tissue..
Also, the average meat you (probably) eat isn't very healthy either. Not in a direct way, but convenient farming increases the restistence for antibiotics which is ultimately not so good for us obv.
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First of all I don’t eat meat at all. I also avoid all these unnatural meat fake products. You can easily look up the ingredients. There are so many E numbers and unnatural substances which are the worst. Even our corpses takes more than 15 years to disappear nowadays because of all this chemical trash
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Youre mixing up several things here.
First of all, whilebtjose processed fake meat alternatives surely aren't health food, they are also per see not "bad" for you. At least not worse than whatever processed non vegan food ppl eat.
Secondly, i feel like the consuption of processed non vegan food outweighs the consumption of processed vegan food by miles percentage-wise. Just think about preservatives for example.
Also there's frequently more fat, more salt in the non vegan product than in its "substutite".
Tbh, it doesn't sound like you have a lot of expertise in this matter. I just checked and the (vegan) sausages i got in my fridge right now have zero e numbers and that makes perfect sense. Usually people who eat vegan are much more "invested" in what they eat (including substance of content), if only for the sake of checking if its vegan in the first place.
But I'm sure you got a glaring example of your "chemical trash" product. Let's hear it then.
Congrats for not eating animals tho.
Making Schwab proud.
weforum.org/agenda/2018/10/one-of-the-wo..
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I guess Schwab knows official sites as well
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6017557..
But that's about all i reply to your backdoor-conspiracy post.
Super weird logic you got there.
Its exactly the other way round. Because you can veganize any meal, there is literally no need to t kill/exploianimals.
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Can't have cheese.
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Vegan cheese. I don't like it tho
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And some people only eat meat called the carnivore diet and they're healthy. The first studies of a meat-exclusive diet date back to the 1930s and were done by Oxford University.
Vegan food sucks
great list, love them all
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Beef kebab
India and Indochina have the Best vegan Food. I often look for Inspiration in their dishes when I'm fasting vegan Curry saved My life xD
Tbh, i am actually surprised how many people eat vegan/vegetarian. In central europe you are something special if you are vegan/vegetarian. I guess same counts for balkans?
And yeah, there are some edgy comments in here, but overall public opionion seems to be shifting towards pro vegan/vegetarian movement. I am not vegan/vegetarian myself, but I aprecciate it.
Top 5 vegan foods :
1. Shawarma
just eat grass
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