agree

+1

Maybe they need a Gambit Youngsters style +hobbit?

They should get w0nderful activated and let him do whatever he wants. I mean I know there's a structure and Spirit's gameplan revolves around riflers, but as an AWPer it's important to be able to provide openings if it's needed. If they don't want to give him more space, change roles or bring in one more aggro rifler (donk would be ideal). There's simply too many passive players.

wonderful is literally the best player on spirit by a wide margin

They trashtalked after the game

They suck because none of them is consistent. Even Patsi had a rough start in Katowice but since then he's stepped up his game. I believe they have enough firepower and good structure to get to the next level, but only if everyone's clicking together.

Magixx's been super inconsistent ever since he joined Spirit, though. hltv.org/news/34617/a-look-at-inconsiste.. Just look at this. You can't even be a play-off contender if you have 2/3 players being so inconsistent. I'd like to give them more time, but I have really high expectations for this team, knowing how well they performed at both majors. And they manage to let me down time after time...

There's obviously a wide pool of talent, not only on main Spirit roster but also the Academy team looks pretty decent. Donk, zont1x, ArtFr0st could easily play for the main team, so if they were to replace someone, I wouldn't be worried about replacement as three of them would fit Spirit's demands. For example you could replace w0nderful with ArtFr0st, s1ren with donk and magixx with zont1x. 2 fluky major runs every year aren't enough for a team like Spirit. They've always been like a gatekeepers between T2 and T1 and fourth best team in CIS but I guess the expectations are way higher. Outsiders replaced n0rb3r7 with Kair0n just after winning the major. Spirit need to start taking risks if they wanna get out of the mediocrity.

nah

More about individuals not showing up consistently enough. Also as much as I don't like the way of chopper's calling, Spirit's T sides have looked fairly decent lately. The issue resides in CT sides. They play super passive, not taking any risks and hoping for a miracle. In general they don't have many setups on CT side. For example I've never seen them do this boost in under on mirage where you can see the enemy crossing towards the mid box. It's quite easy to do, and you can catch your enemy off guard once or twice. Back in Antwerp they played one of the best CT sides I've ever seen in my life. On every map. Their teamwork was just on another level. Since then it's been getting worse and worse. Also, they used to be one of the best teams in the world when it comes to pistol rounds and so far this year they've had like a 20% WR in pistol rounds. Like they were losing every pistol round in Katowice. At EPL they lost 3 pistols against Astralis, 5 vs FORZE, 2 vs Liquid and against NAVI they lost all pistol rounds. One pistol round on Anubis and the game would've been different.

fnatic made it to qf and theyre shit whats ur point

They aren't

Besides the majors it has been a whole lotta underperforming

Inconsistency, dumb decision and also big amount of luck by Lucktralis

Solid points. That's what I've noticed as well. They don't really use flashes to clear a certain angle. It can be seen whenever they walk into posted up AWPer who's basically set up for a shooting gallery. I mean it's safe to say their teamwork isn't as good as it was back in Antwerp for example when they were helping out with nades time after time, making them look godlike on CT side in particular.

I mean I'm just tired of seeing them be in the same spot for the past couple of months. When the team makes major playoffs twice, the expectations are going up and fans start demanding more. And aside from two major runs, they've done absolutely nothing. I thought 2023 would be the year when Spirit were gonna eventually catch up to the likes of C9 or Outsiders and regularly make playoffs at big events. But the first months of 2023 have been really disappointing.

Honestly their T sides have looked quite decent lately and I'm saying it as one of the few people who doubt chopper as an IGL. It's more about their CT sides. If you watch some of their demos from Antwerp, you can see the real teamwork. Playing off of each other, using different set-ups every round. They were getting like 11-12 rounds on CT side no matter what map they played and who they played against. And it's not even about teams studying them more. They just stopped using these kind of setups for some reason. For example they were known for lobby crunch on Nuke with 2 guys pushing from ramp with 3 coming from door/hut. I haven't seen them do that for months. In addition you can't win the game if you just keep losing pistol rounds which were the key to spirit's success in 2022.

S1ren is not the problem lol, he is an insane support/anchor and does great for his position and roles, he even hard carried vs Astralis and it still wasn’t enough because Magixx is not reliable enough, they could use someone like KENSi/Norwi