Thread has been deleted
Last comment
electroNic's IGLing
tabseN | 
Scotland CaesarSCO 
Could be a semi-unpopular opinion, but electroNic is genuinely a pretty good IGL. Na'Vi pretty regularly post insanely high round T halves, or massive comebacks on T side. Given time, he really could be one of the best fragging IGL's of all time because he was always an incredibly smart player and I can imagine that translates to his calling. The only issue - and it is a very big issue - is that this is a 2-time Top 5 and a 2-time Top 7 player in the world and one of the best riflers CSGO has ever seen, and is almost always in other Pro's Top X / Best Rifler lists'. It's obvious and guaranteed that his firepower is going to weaken (and in fairness, still quite often has some ridiculously strong games and bo3's) while IGL. You can't replace that level of rifle star power with an inexperienced youngster fresh off of the academy. You can't fill electroNic's firepower void with many, if any players, really. IMO Na'Vi don't NEED to sign an IGL. They have to sign someone who can post similar, or even just slightly less numbers that elec posted regularly as a pure rifler. We can see that the addition of npl has re-unlocked b1t's form and he's looking sharp AF again. Perfecto can go back to doing what he does best in the supportive and anchor roles, and just bring in a damn talent.
2023-03-19 02:07
Topics are hidden when running Sport mode.
#1
 | 
Ukraine Parimatch
+1 electronic is a great IGL. Don’t understand these threads that say he isn’t.
2023-03-19 02:10
7 replies
People think team has bad T half = IGL must be shit.
2023-03-19 02:18
Most of the HLTV people are lv 1 and a couple Lv 3 and those are the ones that trash talk at s1mple and blamef and so on. I just don't read them anymore.
2023-03-19 03:38
#19
 | 
Canada MungoJerry
Great igl = former top 1 for a year straight lose to forze... bruh
2023-03-19 04:14
4 replies
TEAM LOSES TO TEAM THEY SHOULDN'T (NEVER SEEN BEFORE, LITERALLY FIRST TIME IT HAPPENED) FaZe lost to Bad News Eagles.Very obviously does not make karrigan a bad IGL, much like losing to forZe does not make electroNic a bad IGL. G2 lost to GamerLegion, doesn't make HooXi a bad IGL. Teams lose games dude, tf is this mindset?
2023-03-19 04:18
3 replies
#23
 | 
Canada MungoJerry
first of all your prose is reddit-tier; second of all the strength of an igl is measured by the success of a team undure their tenure. Faze overall have had a great 12 months and karrigan was igl for both the major win and #1 as well as the loss to bad news eagles. Electronic as igl has been fruitless for navi through and through. Point to a high like faze's major victory before you point to a low like bombing out of rio.
2023-03-19 04:30
2 replies
> player who has been an IGL for almost 10 years has gotten better results than player who has been IGL for less than 1 year ill be damned.
2023-03-19 13:20
1 reply
#35
 | 
Canada MungoJerry
straw man, actually read what I wrote instead of "greentexting" like you made some incredible rebuttal. Since electronic has been igl faze have done way more. Compare the two within the same time period. Maybe this will help you: >navi kicks igl >makes a star rifler igl instead >has a rotating fifth player whos far weaker than the rest of the team >s1mples skill begins waning >people still think navi are good >mfw
2023-03-19 14:22
#2
 | 
United States AcE3K
The team is already improving, we will see if it’s good enough or not. Obviously they need to make changes if not
2023-03-19 02:10
#4
 | 
Brazil ZerongBr
It's not really about him being good or bad but about being free to become a star rifler
2023-03-19 02:20
electronic is one of my all time favorite players, I really hope he succeeds
2023-03-19 02:23
1 reply
One of mine too. Makes CS look so fluid and easy on the eyes with his movement, gamesense & aim.
2023-03-19 02:34
you really need to also put it in balance with the firepower he lost when he switched to the igl role
2023-03-19 02:39
#8
NiKo | 
Japan Kiriji
boombla better
2023-03-19 02:40
#9
 | 
Fiji Pilot_
Electronic is a top 5 rifler all time
2023-03-19 02:42
1 reply
#24
 | 
Canada MungoJerry
What's your top 5 in order?
2023-03-19 07:13
>high round T halves, or massive comebacks on T side the game is T sided right now....
2023-03-19 02:55
#11
 | 
Yugoslavia kingcys
Completely agree, I think they need a Patsi or a YEKINDAR. But both seem unreasonable bc of high prices, maybe b1ad3 can scout someone if npl doesn’t work out
2023-03-19 02:58
1 reply
a karrigan-style IGL (running in a lot, kinda what boomich was tbh) would do them wonders if it frees up electronic
2023-03-19 04:14
The team may be unstable rn, but I personally can see some improvements, i.e. s1mple slowly becoming more confident in pro league, b1t hitting more heads since NPL joined and electroNic fragging more than the second half of last year. Plus, the team chemistry is much better than navi with SDY, and teammates are smiling more frequently. So yeah, I'm realizing that electroNic isn't as bad of an IGL as people think. It's only a matter of time till NPL becomes more comfortable and Navi can again become a potential trophy-contenders in near future
2023-03-19 03:07
niko igl better
2023-03-19 03:33
I still think it is a wasted spot, let Electronic be the rifled he always used to be. Guy was as you say always a top 5 player so I never understood why he had to igl, its like saying Simple has to igl its just braindead.. Set Electronic free and buy another igl, let elec be the insane rifled he always was
2023-03-19 03:44
Dont think so. He has been igl for like a year and its still questionable. Beating astralis and Ra doesnt mean that much.
2023-03-19 03:59
2 replies
The only teams who've beaten them from December until today are: Liquid Vitality Heroic G2 and recently a 2 - 1 random loss to FORZE in which they likely win that game 8 out of 10 replays. during that time they've beaten Heroic, Outsiders, Cloud9, etc. You can paint the narrative however way you like it with your "they only beat astralis and rare atom" bs but Na'Vi basically only lose to tournament winners / top4 placers. He's doing a great job considering his personal circumstances alongside being a brand new igl and having two different 5th players during his igl tenure.
2023-03-19 04:12
1 reply
Yea but he isnt brand new. Its been a year. I get personal issues but maybe he should stop being a bitch. He has the best player, best anchor, best coach (xd) and b1t is also top 10. They need to make top 4 or they suck which they do right now. Also I dont like him so maybe i am biased.
2023-03-19 04:28
Even uf was good navi lost their top 10 rifler lol, took a year igling and for the first time never made top 20
2023-03-19 04:08
1 reply
#27
 | 
Russia Soawii
made top 21 though
2023-03-19 07:42
he was probably one of the biggest voices in the old lineup, he has a fairly good understanding of the game. but don't forget blad3 is the one who does a lot of the prep work and calls the timeouts. if both him and electronic are on the same page then he should be a sufficient IGL
2023-03-19 07:28
#26
DD | 
Philippines libon23
elctronic calling the ultimate strat in nuke yesterday which is to kill everyone, man that was beautiful to watch
2023-03-19 07:34
Ofc it's not a problem with his calls. It's problem with him not being able to perform at his previous level. Navi either need another top 10 rifler or they need an IGL. An IGL is way easier to acquire.
2023-03-19 07:56
there is very little evidence to suggest he is a good igl but a lot that proves he is a great rifler. he’s not the kind of player who jumps out as a tactician, just like apex
2023-03-19 08:06
1 reply
apEX is as far away from a tactician as the word allows. his matches are almost solely dependent on ZywOo having a monstrous game, which luckily he often does.
2023-03-19 13:21
I sort of agree but I don't like how passive s1mple is playing. He just get as many as opportunities to have impact on the round as he used to.
2023-03-19 08:18
Great take honestly, Elec is doing a lot for this team and should never be the one to blame
2023-03-19 08:22
elec is a good igl but , first they are kinda wasting an insane skilled player by putting him there , second the team is not really functional around him thats why he couldnt express his bestest , no strat could work if ur team couldnt shot better
2023-03-19 13:23
Login or register to add your comment to the discussion.
Now playing
Thumbnail for stream
Other
ohnePixel
8703 viewers
Top streams
All(49)
Casters(29)
Streamers(9)
Organizers(11)
Other
ohnePixel
(8703)
Brazil
Liminha
(4900)
United Kingdom
Champion of Champions
(4430)
Brazil
bt0
(3174)
United Kingdom
ESL TV
(3005)
Other
Champion of Champions 2
(2882)
United States
fl0m
(2058)
Brazil
hen1
(1261)
Denmark
Dust2 TV
(711)
Kazakhstan
mou
(623)
Poland
Saju
(528)
Argentina
NikoM
(449)
Germany
syrsoN
(441)
United Kingdom
psp1g
(415)
Brazil
wastzera
(275)
Poland
MICHU
(240)
Russia
watchfulTV
(235)
Brazil
Jogando Junto
(234)
Turkey
Levia
(187)
Sweden
Luddiie
(153)
Argentina
648
(129)
United States
adreN
(128)
Slovakia
REPUBLEAGUE A
(122)
Brazil
BTSBrasilEsportes
(122)
Other
CCT 3
(108)
Germany
Fragster
(103)
Brazil
mch
(93)
Brazil
BTSBrasilFPS
(93)
United States
FishTheHusky
(86)
Greece
Hareas
(80)
Germany
TheLuchs4363
(79)
United Kingdom
Champion of Champions (YouTube)
(78)
United Kingdom
Vince
(61)
France
1pv
(55)
Denmark
mertz
(51)
Other
tedd
(34)
Other
CCT 4
(33)
United States
JoJo
(28)
Norway
777
(24)
Slovakia
Y-Zone
(14)
Uzbekistan
Esports Uzbekistan
(12)
Other
EU Pro League
(12)
Brazil
momentefps
(11)
Russia
Riley
(9)
Russia
EU Pro League
(8)
Australia
Dweg
(7)
Brazil
BTSBrasilCSGO
(6)
Portugal
EU Pro League
(4)
Brazil
crawzao
(2)