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Once again Finland has been ranked #1 on Happiness and once again we are #2.
worldhappiness.report/
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But while I like to win, it is fine since A. The Finish people are good people and B. it is not really a contest it is much more important that the scores are a indication that makes people of the world think of what matters.
So people, where is your country on the list and do you think your politicians should do something to improve life in your country?
Personally I think we can do better here in Denmark, but also that surpassing Finland will be difficult as long as they organize this: airguitarworldchampionships.com/en/home/
damn rank 121
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sure thing
theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/suicides/E..
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that's from 4 years ago
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ok? cool i guess? anyways there's more recent data
Stats like that can rarely be completely trusted since countries count those statistics in different ways, like some include accidental deaths by overdose and shit.. and some even include suicide attempts, while others don't.
Yet it's one of the few where Italy looks good, so I can see why you seem to care so much.
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i dont understand how finland can be the happiest?!
every time i come across a fin he sounds mad depressed??
this list is sus..
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true
They drown their depression with alchohol.
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the fact it's not even a bait is funny hehe
media.tenor.com/hFLhYHSILnUAAAAC/hehe.gi..
Most of the people I know are quite alright. And by viewing your profile you seem to attract trolls hence it's quite certainly possible that what you see in others are your own negative feelings.
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ok
we are not depressed, its just us.
We don't need to express it constantly. Happiness is a lot more than just going around with a smile on your face and being all sunshine. I am happy I am living in a country where my kids are safe and I don't have to worry that much about tomorrow. There are a lot of things to be happy about.
We’re just monotone
Happiness is when you are not worried about the future and can just focuse on living your life the way you want. It's not a state of mood
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Bottom??? Live your life mens.
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bro no... we all know stockholm is a shithole, but overall sweden is nice. i agree sweden is going down but its still better than the counties below. maybe not next year tho...
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You're a living proof of someone not understanding how good you have things. "We should be bottom of the list boohoo I hate my life here boo hoo" go fucking live in one of the countries that are at the bottom. You'll come crying back within weeks. You won't survive a month there living in the conditions they do.
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I doubt many Swedes are actually affected, except for perhaps seeing the headlines and thinking wtf. The people I know living on the other end of the bridge ie. next to Copenhagen but in Sweden all seem okay with life.
Seeing Israel in the #4 spot was however a surprise to me, it seems likely the current troubling government and its move towards totalitarianism is so recent the data doesn't that into account - however one would also think that just the guilt of keeping a people in camps should cause unhappiness.
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+1 easter riots happened a hundred meters away from my house other than that I have been unaffected and the same case applies to most. Still very bad development but not that bad its very overexcaggerated.
It must be a colossal pride to be coming from the happiest or second-happiest country in the world. That's great indeed. I had to scroll all the way down to not even see it there, at all. It matters, despite how happy I may be, the others' happiness also affect mine and I would like to see more happy faces. But still make sure you're happy yourself first and only then look elsewhere
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To be clear happiness does not mean what you think it does here.
Finland’s ranking is because people generally have their needs met due to the robust welfare system, so they are satisfied.
But that’s not the very consistent because the USA is above Germany, France, and UK in happiness.
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We have saunas
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Well i have never been sad after sauna, i think you solved the happiness
Luxembourg is a sorry place full of misery and banks
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No 51, politicians should be doing a lot of things, but they never will. The only thing that would make this country happier in the long run is improving education so people can get better wages, because they produce more in the industry. Will never happen, because investing in education is longer term than 4 years... I try to do my part by going back to uni and teaching students as well as I can in my free time, but it's a drop in the sea.
The reason many people in Hungary are unhappy is because half the country is living paycheck to paycheck. Most people always have that feeling of existential dread. Things are OK now, but what will happen if I'm fired? Can I still feed my kids if food prices increase another 50%? (They will.) Thankfully I can still provide for myself and my GF, so I can be happy, but I know for most people this is not the case unfortunately.
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My best friend is Hungarian and that's exactly how he sees it too.. I think Hungary was fairly lucky that their transition from socialism to capitalism didn't destroy the country in the way many other countries were completely fucked, but it's still far from ideal. Education is definitely key, but if it makes you feel any better, as a Finn I can tell you Hungary isn't the only country that ignores the long term benefits of it, as our right wing governments have made severe cuts to education and it's just getting worse.
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Education is ignored everywhere, because its benefits are long term. The average politician has no incentive to invest in something that won't show returns within the next 4-5 years. This shortsightedness could be the downfall of democracy, because voters aren't as conscious and well informed as they should be for the system to work well.
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typical eastern europe sadly, fucked over by communism
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Yepp. The never-ending circle.
Education is fucked to some degree in the whole word for the reasons he said
Ours started good but has been on a slow decline ever since - unless you go to a private school of course
It's easy to blame communism in your problems
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corrupt politicians who grew up during communism, stealing all the nation's wealth, it's the only world they know, pretty easy imo
behind Lithuania? 💀
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Finland happiest country in the world?
Xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxax
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having Putin as "president" and being happy? xaxxaxaxaxaxa
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I said 0 words about Russia yet you still mention it
Are you ok?
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Because I have freedom of speech. So deal with it.
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I have freedom of speech as well
What do you want to say?
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no you dont :D you can test it in red square
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If I go to red square & will say "Ukraine is Russia" OMON won't do anything to me
1 nuke is all it takes :)
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Not gonna happen Saint Petersburg is next to Finland's border so I highly doubt it lul.
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Right :))
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In russia 2morrow, ATK votes da in happiness survey
youtube.com/watch?v=4gyKDCOwdC0
really not feeling like an 8 rn
That ranking has nothing to do with actual happiness. It has more to do with how content people feel about their lives in a said country. It's possible to feel content with your life while not being happy.
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Nah we're never satisfied because of the high tax rates.
Yeah that would be a more accurate characterization of the ranking I would say.
That makes more sense
If you disregard those Hollywood moments of happiness bliss, then being happy and content is very much the same.
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I somewhat disagree. There is correlation, but it's not the exact same thing.
For example I am very content with my life. I am working my dream job, I live in a nice area, I am physically healthy, etc etc etc nothing to complain about. But I am not happy. I would rate my happiness 5/10 at maximum.
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Fair enough.
I suppose it is really about how you think of it, plus maybe also what sort of expectations you have which really must a lot to do with culture, upbringing, background and so on.
Like for example if your parents are very successful, then maybe you would also feel you should have the same or more success in order to be doing okay and in contrast lets say your parents was doing "just" okay it may take less to feel like a success.
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Your own expectations are a huge part of that you're correct and culture plays a part in you setting those expectations as you mentioned. The point about being born into a successful family is a good one.
One of the main reasons for my own lack of happiness currently has been the failure to meet certain expectations I had set for myself and concern over certain cultural developments in the western countries that make me very pessimistic about the future of civilization. Of course in my own mind I believe these issues are valid issues to be unhappy about, but at the end of the day things like this are mostly someone's own preference and I could wake up tomorrow and change my thinking completely and my happiness would be close to perfect.
Your comment was insightful one which is rare these days so that helped me regain some hope for civilization so thanks for helping me get closer to 6/10 happiness.
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Happy to help.
I find it fruitful to exchange views on things and it interesting to learn from those that live in foreign lands or lead different lives. Thank you for sharing.
I also have worries and a big one is climate change, on what it is and will do to nature, what challenges it will bring - especially to the more vulnerable nations that have little margins for sustaining life and what happens when mass migration becomes a thing. Plus of course also about the rising sea level, as a Dane I know we are one of the countries where this will become a problem BIG TIME.
However I do also have hope that democracies are strong and that technology can deal with many challenges, only it won't be cheap or easy.
Another worry is what AI will bring with regards to changes. On the one hand I think amazing things will happen, but I also see lots of jobs being replaced by computers and not that many new ones created to manage the AI. This then makes me wonder - what about all those jobs lost (and will my friends or I be on the loosing side).
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Maybe we could send our military, except lots of our gear has been send to Ukraine or is used by the troops we have in Estonia so not to really send. Maybe if we invoke article 50 and get help from NATO, after all Finland is not a member yet.
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Of course not. But I imagine if we could take control over the Air Guitar World Championships, then we could surpass them in happiness and regain our rightful #1 spot.
Suicide rate is high in Finland. My dad lives in Rovaniemi and when i visit i find the whole place depressing if there wasn't snow.
British people are naturally cynical so would always do badly on these surveys.
Conclusion: These surveys are bullshit.
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It is somewhat of a myth that the suicide rate is high in Finland.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_..
It is not low, but not like crazy high or anything. As for cynical, it seems to me that is not something exclusive for you Brits.
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Maybe not exclusive but it wouldn''t take long in the UK to realise everyone is sarcastic and feels good to say negative things haha
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I think you guys must have that from the Vikings, since that also describes Nordic humor.
You should come and visit, everyone here speaks English so depending on your skill set you could even easily get work if you want.
maybe its just how do you define happiness. yes finnish ppl arent extra positive smiling etc and they dont show their feelings to others which may make it look like theyre really depressed to ppl looking from outside but yeah. and i dont know if its the accent or smth that make them "sound" depressed. noticed sometimes in CS when a finn gives info some ppl are like "u sound so depressed" which i dont kinda understand why. like is he supposed to laugh and sound happy meanwhile giving info where the enemies are or smth.
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Yeah you said it perfectly, most people are very close minded about topics like this. It's like they forget different countries have different cultures.
Also another funny thing is when people give their opinion on other countries/cultures based on their experiences in a video game :D As if most people playing videogames aren't socially awkward nerds.
Finnish people in general show very little emotion even if they are happy (especially in public), so that's probably why so many from the outside think it sounds weird Finland is ranked 1st in the happiness ranking every year. Also many Finns think people from other countries are happier since they show much more emotion so we also find it weird we are ranked the happiest when we look constantly depressed compared to them lol
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Happiness isn't dancing in the streets and making a lot of noice. Happiness is planning for your future and not having to consider factors like, will you get by with minimum wage, or will you get shot in the streets by a law enforcement officer.
maybe this is a list of the most delusional people, not the happiest? I mean, how can you even measure happiness? There is no standard for happiness - where one feels happy, other can feel shitty. If it's based on people voting if they are happy or not, then it would most definitely be very delusional
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Use the second link I posted, there you will find the answers to all your questions.
I mean.. its hltv you know, as long as you put X vs Y country with stats, everyone will believe it but they will never think about how the study was made
Apparently its made with the cantril scale, you have to answer questions and rate them from 0 to 10
Like
"Are you happy with ur life from 0 to 10?"
" idk ehmmm 8"
"Ok your country is 6th!"
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"Are you happy with ur life from 0 to 10?"
This in itself is delusional. All tests where people have to answer about themselves are pretty false, because most people answer what they would like it to be, not what it actually is. Same as in personality tests "what would you do in this scenario" - most people answer what they would like to do but not what they would actually do.
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it iz wat it iz
Yes, and this is why wonderful places like Afganistan and Lebanon are actually top#10 countries because people answer wrong. You have a scientifically good point and we should read the list from bottom to top.
But, seriously you are missing the point. Being top#1 or top#2 or even top#10 in this list is not the point. All those top#10 countries could be placed in any order in top10, but the fact is all those countries are less failed countries than many other countries. There are no perfect countries, but some countries are just less failed than other for people to live their day to day ordinary lives. Period.
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cool story bro. don't take things too personal
Then no country would ever be unhappy if people answered what they wish it was true, duh.
Finnish people just don't understand the difference in being content and being happy.
TEST:
1.) Visit Finland and go to a town centre and look around you.
2.) Visit any Mediterranean country and do the same.
Tell me who *looks* happiest, have done both many times and I can tell you, it does not seem like Finland to me. You can hear a pin drop in Finland it's quite a socially awkward place.
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I like Finland, but I don't think Finns seem "happy" I would say more.. content, comfortable.
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#39, just because in our culture it's normal to not show much emotion or be loud or anything like that it doesn't mean we are all just depressed. Like we've seen famous people like Kimi Räikkönen barely even show a little smile after winning a F1 race, but I'm sure he is still happy winning and there are many other emotionless Finns like him.
Edit. Also to add, Finns don't really care what others (strangers) think about them and that includes not caring if people see them as "depressed" or anything like that based of their facial expressions.
"Happiness" is measured how people feel they can control their own life (available opportunities), how they feel their family and children have a chance for a good future (no need to stress too much about this if one just wants to use their available opportunities) and how friends/family around them is felt like. And low corruption and low "randomized bureaucracy per face value" is another big part of it.
But is is true that in public places in Finland it is acceptable to "enjoy the silence" also and people take other persons "invisible private zone" seriously. It is considered rude if a total stranger infiltrates this invisible private zone without at first starting a discussion from a distant and this way sort of given a permission to enter the private invisible zone around us.
How do they measure this
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idk about the rest and tbh idc either, most important is me, I had a top tier education and +800k in bank account
Im fine 😎
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sweden is gonna go down in ranking every year if they dont fix there country
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for immigrants in sweden, yes.
If you are immigrant in sweden you even get paid to live rent free there.
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you have to earn your keep as an immigrant, idk why you all make it seem like it's so easy, oh probably because you have no idea wtf you're talking about. we do live rent free in your heads though and it feels good knowing that because it's a pretty big sign of insecurity. I smile, you frown. keep it up
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It it just the populistic rightwing propaganda, doesn't really differ from what you can see in russia.
We have the exact same law so i know you can stay 2 years rent free plus money before they kick you out. Stop crying your country aint happy with your situation
We have sauna, beer and laituri, and a seven month winter that makes us appreciate summer all the more.
Pretty good internet access, pure/high quality ingredients in grocery stores, amazing nature all around, very good human rights situation compared to shit holes that still exist for some reason (no matter what some idiots think, you ARE allowed to say stupid shit - being considered an idiot for saying it is just the natural consequence, you won't be put in jail), universal healthcare, free schools + school meals, and still the default assumption is that if someone is supposed to do something, they are trustworthy and will do it in stead of rip you off only thinking of themselves (disregarding politicians, but nothing big really ever changes anyway so status quo remains).
Also everyone talking about how we "look depressed" because we're not talking and shouting all the time, lmao. I'll take happiness over excessive social gesturing anytime.
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Why are your town centres and community areas so quiet and ... eerie.
I feel like at Helsinki airport everyone is a robot? At Rovaniemi town nobody is able to communicate and smile?
Levi ski resort, the only people smiling are tourists lol
Maybe you don't realise what happiness is.
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From a third person perspective yes, seeing people smiling and laughing with each other?
Northern people see strangers as strangers, not part of their "inner circle" with whom you would share your happiness or feelings in general. Having a blank expression as default is just that - it's blank, it's not negativity or lack of happiness.
Also #102, imagine trying to summarize happiness and you would focus on things like "smiling at strangers" lmao
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Have you been to italy or spain? everyone is happy to strangers and there is a totally different vibe.
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Yes I have, several times. For me, smiling at strangers and talking to everyone does not equal happiness in life.
There are some linguistics into this as well, in English "happiness" is pretty much equal to "being happy", which can be defined by unimportant things like smiling and so on. Surely everyone knows the difference between being happy in a moment and being happy in their lives in general, but still. The Finnish word for this is more like a combination of happiness and satisfaction, being content with your life as a whole - the absence of severe problems plays a big part.
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I think here lies the problem. Language. So Finns score so highly on happiness because the word means different things.
I don’t consider security, wealth etc as happiness but instead content.
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Its not language. Its culture.
Diffrent culture defines happyness diffrently.
Waking up every morning knowing i dont have to worry about food health and a bed to sleep in. That is one kind of happyness i would say.
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What I mean is, when the questionnaire says "how happy are you?" do Finns interpret that as "content" ?
In the UK we don't have to worry about health, food or beds either but we aren't overly keen to describe ourselves as happy.
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okay.
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you have the girls and the AleksiBs
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They go to the gym to take that picture. Maybe the tinder meta is just ahead of some other countries
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For us swedish girls and even more norwegian girls are prettier cause we are used to finnish girls? Idk.
But norway has the 11/10 capital for sure
yu are always happy when you cold as ice
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Because I don't really have to worry about a thing in my life, no matter the income. Also you can do alot of stuff in the winter
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The list is a meme.
All the top countries have shit weather.
Only Israel, New Zealand, Australia, USA have nice weather. True list champions. Canada can be 4th.
Also Canada is huge in left-right bullshit lmfao, we all remember the trucker stuff and the virtue signaling government.
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We don't have shit weather (current week excluded).
We have weather, as in it is not the same everyday however we do not have Hurricanes, Tornadoes, crazy heatwaves or freak winter storms. Our winters are more wet and dark than they are winter wonderland, but our spring and summer compensates and then some - and no one lives more than 30 miles from a beach.
We also don't have mass shootings everyday or every decade for that matter, we don't have death by cop either or people shooting at our cops as something even remotely regular. Half our politicians aren't for sale, we don't have an ex-president that lies every time he talks, health care is universal so people aren't slaves to their job for fear of loosing their insurance... oh and everybody here gets 5 weeks paid vacation (minimum, most have 6 or 7 weeks).
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Denmark= depressing, cold, racist, boring, 50% tax, small homes, everyone is antisocial and alcoholic.
That’s why nobody smart moves there. It’s only a good country for the small number of people born there like Finland.
Everyone moved to USA, Australia, etc. Even people from Denmark move to the USA at a 3x higher rate than vice versa.
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LOL
Nice try at trolling, but it has to be a little real to work. But for fun, lets look at a your claims.
- Depressing, the suicide rate in the US is like double of ours
- Cold. Lots of places in the US are way colder in the winter.
- Racist. You're the country of the KKK, the people that still celebrate the confederate flag... and had segregation laws until 1970 in some states.
- Boring. If boring means no school shootings, no children shooting siblings or their parents, honest politicians, no corruption... then yes we are boring. Then again we work 37h a week and have 5-6 weeks paid vacation, so it is not working that makes us boring.
- 50% tax. Yes, and for that we get a lot. Once you factor in health insurance, cost of education and more then the bottom line is the same.
- Small homes. Quality over quantity. We live in a homes that are well made and not some giant wooden box that is easy blown away. We build our summer houses in wood, not the real ones we call homes.
- Antisocial. Just wrong.
- Alcoholic. Wrong again. And btw. tells us about the opioid crisis.
- The 3x moving thing, the US has 60 times more people than Denmark and 229 times the land mass so that only 3x more people move to the US isn't exactly a compliment for you guys.
Dumbest comment I’ve read in a while. Trucker convoy was a month long illegal occupation of our capital city funded by American money and fuelled by Russian misinformation. There was an independent inquiry recently completed that concluded that the government actions taken to end the occupation was completely justified.
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Stop, you’re making me lose hope for the collective intelligence of humanity.
Jesus
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they made alcohol expensive cuz of suicide rate during winter
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life quality is very good, loneliness is the problem in my opinion, and also the fact that people don't open up, most of us don't really show our emotions
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Most of us in the Western world who visit Nordic countries, we think, ah yes nice and clean, organised society.
But at the same time we don't see it as a happy place to live.
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I agree it's not a particularly exciting place to live, but that's why you go on holidays and so on. Having lived in the UK for 13 years and Germany for 4 years, both these places seemed at least 10 years behind in terms of quality of life.
I love going to Italy, for example, for the culture, food and weather but I definitely wouldn't want to reside there and often start missing regular life after about a week.
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Depends where you live I guess, some parts of the UK are culturally miles behind and get less spend by the government, whilst some areas of London are richer than most places in the world.
But yeah I agree, whenever we go on holiday to Spain, Italy etc we always see people with much less money who seem a lot happier.
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I lived in Brighton for 11 years and London for two years. My memories mostly consist of dirty streets, homeless people, fat/disabled people with a massive drinking culture. I also remember when I first moved there in 2002, 0.5Mb internet had just arrived whereas in Sweden it was standard to have at least 10Mb and in a lot of places 100/10 was available.
I will say, however, that English people are a lot more outgoing and social which has rubbed off on me so I do find it hard to socialise with swedish people, especially those that aren't from the south of sweden who are just super awkward to be around.
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You're right, we have loads of fat people AND our internet has been terrible it's only just catching up now.
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I live in a town called Shrewsbury, lovely place, more representative of "England" than most cities I guess.
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I think we are like a hybrid of Scandinavian personality and Spanish personality. Probably a bit more reserved than much of Europe but more outgoing than Nordic people.
But we are also very negative and sarcastic so even if like was perfect here it would never show up in a survey lol
Also another reason us nordics love living here is the ease of living. We get a unique personal number that we use for EVERYTHING, whereas it's to do banking, make dentist appointments, declarations etc. The beaurocratic side is super easy and manageble and we almost never have to do physical appointments or fill out paperwork. This was the biggest nightmare in Germany haha
Whats you're take on the quality of housing in the UK?
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It's completely different to other european countries. There are barely any apartments and people only live in houses. Because of the lack of small apartments, people are usually forced to live in shared accomodation which in my opinion sucks. When my friend from England comes over to Sweden he's always shocked that there are only apartments in the city.
I love flying to spain from time to time, I love it there, warm, beautiful and friendly people, but i could never live there, just wouldn't be happy living there. Maybe we're all just too attached to what we're familiar with
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what do you feel is missing?
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everything that I'm used to growing up, food, people, language, culture.. etc
Being a tourist somewhere for a month vs living and raising a family for the next 10-20 years are two different things. Our family has traveled (as a tourist) to numerous countries and even living abroad for few years (in Spain when dad was there as EU official). As a tourist any place is nice and especially Spain or Thailand etc. But, living in Spain (going to school, going to work, getting along with bureaucracy, calling an electrician or plumber to do something) is not that wonderful compared to Finland (or any other Nordic country). Here things just work and make the every day living from day to day easy. In Spain after a year you started to see how bad many things were (not people, but the society and infrastructure and poor vs rich people gap, inequality, how families had to stress out if they children can have a good future etc).
That's because you don't live here? The experience for visitors and tourists is vastly different from actually having a life somewhere and should never be a standard for happiness in my opinion.
Systems in the Nordic countries make it easy for you to conduct you life (mostly) however you want to regardless of your ability or desire to make lots of money and I find that far more important for "happiness" than smiling or talking to strangers.
Bullshit just like "finland is the most racist country" just bullshit
Am i supposed to believe that people who barely see the sun, and one of the countries that has the highest depressionrate/suicide are also the happiest people in the world?
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Our ppl and politicians are too busy voting for and building coalitions with a far right party whose member had connections to neonazi institutions, literature etc on mass. Surely this will massively improve Austria!
Noobs
Fake list
Top#1 or Top#2 or even Top#5 on this list is pretty irrelevant as long the country is in those top positions. The fact is all those countries are good places to live even for an ordinary citizen and not just for a privileged inner circle. That's the lesson to learn here. In Finland the "happiness factor" relates to how people feel they all have equal chance to succeed (whatever it is) in life and raise their family and provide a good future for their children. The life is not an everyday struggle to survive from day to day like in those countries in bottom places
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So happiness is having a welfare state?
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How do you define welfare state? In all Nordic countries (Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Iceland) it is defined as a stable society and governance system combined with a capitalistic free market. But, to have a stable society and governance is not the same as ultra-capitalistic system with "strongest takes it all" system like in many other countries in bottom places. Welfare system in Nordic countries is not "free money for everyone". If you don't do your part then don't expect much luxury in your life either, but you won't end up being homeless and starvation to death unless you really really want it.
But the Nordic system cannot work unless the country and society is low in corruption also. Countries with severe corruption problem and "tribal ruling system" (=favoring their own people over expertise) is doomed to struggle in a macro level.
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Nah, the Nordic system works primarily due to the fact that Nordic countries have small populations and alot of natural resources.
Plus having a good quality of life =/= being happy, that should be a quality of life rank not a happiness rank, since Finland is one of the countries with one the highest depression rate.
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So something that can actually be measured, like suicide rate/depression rate is a myth, but the "happiness rank" isn't? cmon m8, i think i never saw a Finnish person smilling.
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That's cus countries with higher suicide rates than Finland don't claim that they're the happiest country in the world.
You will never understand
well, according to 2022-2023 WHO stats depression rate in Brazil is higher than in Finland.
But researches are wondering here why countries like in Nordic area rank in average level here and not in lowest bucket even when living in Nordic is seen as "happy" and easy going? And why countries like Romania are in the list as being "least depressed". One explanation is that the efficient healthcare system can spot and classify these symptoms more efficiently, but in other countries depression is not seen as a something healthcare should take care of.
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Bro why u even trying to argue against facts, Finland is top 5 in EU, of countries by suicide rate (something that can actually be measured), i mean even science says that without enough sun exposure, your serotonin levels can dip, making your depressed.
Plus i love how you say that Brazil has higher depression rate, then in the next paragraph argues that in Finland depression rate is higher due to an efficient healthcare system, does that mean that we have an efficient healthcare system?
But still this doesnt matter at all in regards to happiness. And yes, you are all fuckin miserable there to the point of being rude. Sure, the standards of living are amazing but that has nothing to do with happiness, Idk how obvious this can be but I guess not obvious enough
sheeesh these reports...
Mexico is ranked 36th, while Portugal is ranked 56th.
Mexico a country where gang related violence is a daily bread is ranked higher than a country which has a crime rate of a 0.91% per 100k people while mexico 28.37% per 100k inhabitants.
These lists make zero sense, it's the same when TVs come up with an irrelevant stat for a player:
i.imgur.com/VuqetSi.jpg
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Mexicans happy bcs they can easily set up shop in the US. Portuguese not happy cus there's no quality of life and wages are a joke when put against cost of life
you either come from a well-established family, go through college, and get lucky enough to know someone who can land you a good job, or you just live from paycheck to paycheck until retirement comes and you cannot even afford rent
Jokes aside, yes we have very low crime rates but quality of life is abysmal, nevertheless I've never been to mexico and I can imagine its the same there, if not worse
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I've never been to Mexico or Portugal myself but even if I would have been, there's only so much a person who just visits a country can see and understand.. Even living there for few years don't paint the "real" picture of how it really is, since being born there will always be different.
What you said about being born into a wealthier class or middle one is true in many countries, my country is no exception. The thing is most European countries do have free college education, so as long as you want to study and give it your best, you're able to achieve many things without being born or raised in a middle or upper class.
Quick google search told me that Mexican public colleges can charge from 378$ up to like 900$ per year - which is not that bad but definitely is not free.
I didn't want to say that just because of a lower crime rate citizens of Portugal should be happier or lead a more positive way of life. But I refuse to believe that Mexico is ranked 20th places above Portugal in "happiness" simply due to the fact there are well known issues inside of that country and I believe if we'd compare them more precisely - mainly the poverty aspect, we'd get a better perspective on things.
So many things are being taken out of context, not that it would be easy to take everything into consideration, but that's why I don't like these stat lists. They're mostly based on some flawed information and then presented as factual.
Thanks for your insight tho!
biggest lie ever told
But Finland has a 15.3/100,000 suicide rate, how is it possible?
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Unhappy suicide so only happy people left lol
very cool
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It's just the insanely high standards of living that have nothing to do with happiness lol
interesting
Denmark cant be happiest country in the world with the following facts still remaining: Astralis bots, Heroic cheater org, cheater Hunden still active, cadian cringe, used german child soldiers to dispose of beachmines in movie "Land of Mine"
19th...
I don't know if that is unusually high or low for UK standards...
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You latvians have a higher suicide rate.
worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/s..
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Anyone who has met a Finn knows this is total bullshit. They are so dark and depressed. This is the problem with factoring in quality of life measurements into a happiness rating. You can live in an absolute shithole and be happy. Look at india, some of the happiest people in the world live there. Anyone who has travelled throughout North America and the Nordic countries knows we’re way happier in NA.
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more like "my country happier lel xD my contry better!!!1!"" while they dont even know how the "study" was made.
For real - how can you be “the happiest” where it’s freezing and dark for nearly half of the year.
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If you take vitamin d every day the winter weather shouldn’t impact your happiness. I’m just as happy during our 6 month winter than I am in the summer… you just get to enjoy a different set of activities in the winter. If anything the hot and humid weather in the summer makes me a lil grumpy
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That doesnt matter, theyre happier in the slums than you are in the saunas
How can Canada be #13? I’ve travelled throughout Europe and nowhere (even in Scandinavia) did I see remotely as many outwardly happy people smiling and laughing as I do here in Canada. Is it all the immigrants we’re bringing in pulling us down? I’m genuinely pretty confused by this ranking. People in Finland seemed particularly melancholy to me. I can understand Denmark #2 they seemed quite happy.
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Talk to me about when the sun sets in June.
U can get vitamim D frrom pbarmacy same shit.
still can't imagine my country being (anywhere close to) #5 lol
every time new records on amount of people in mental healthcare xd
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can't relate
Belgium, France (didn't visit big cities though), Hungary, Spain, Sweden and UK all seemed much happier for sure
Because this is a bullshit list made for bullshit reasons
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probably yeah, only reasonable explanation
iceland on top!!
LMAO israel :)
49th
We're good, we just need to improve education, health, public security, basic sanitation, average income, gang activity and widespread corruption. But apart from that we're fine!
Jokes aside, brazilians are very smiling and easy going in general, but I feel it's more about a momentary enthusiasm, not a deep and genuine satisfaction for one's life.
finland is happiest country because the people are constantly unhappy
I know this sounds contradictory but this also means that if there are problems then we tend to look toward solving them and are never satisfied, compare to USA for example where they think everything they do is the greatest even if its dogshit
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Finland is probably unhappy because of shit weather and social isolation
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Naah, im good with social isolation. Hopefully there will be new lockdown so we dont have to see other humans and communicate
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Don't listen to "people". Go read how the study is done, it is all there if you follow my links.
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but really bro Nordic countries, they are colder, people are more serious and they can also get
depressed more easily, high suicide rates and things like that.
That kind of thing is contradictory, that's why it is based on quality of life, in other studies they put Japan as the happiest country, but almost always it goes in the quality of life of citizens, countries with less poverty, social problems
I believe that everywhere, within a country, you will find happy people, sad people, things like that
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The suicide rate thing is a myth, the rate is higher in the US for example and Japan is on par as well (a little lower than Finland, but higher than ours)
What makes people in this part of the world happy is:
- Work -life balance
- High level of trust
- No corruption and low crime
- Good social welfare
- High social mobility (The American dream is real here)
- Low poverty rate and those that are poor still get to live decent, their children get access to education...
- Good economy
Japan is an amazing country, but their work-life balance sucks and they have a real problem with to few children being born so an increasingly big part of the population is elderly (same problem as most of the Western world only way worse).
indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=25
worldometers.info/world-population/japan..
This shows it really well:
statista.com/statistics/270087/age-distr..
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this
now this topic can be /closed
Yes I believe these lists
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Australia has issues with extreme weather and old white men run their government.
this rank is bullshit i am depressed and sad much more than a guy from midle east
Suicide leaders are too high
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?
Which leaders would that be?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_..
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Just be happier then : (
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Happiness is just an eery concept
Its mostly because of sauna
Germany rank 16. Understandable, no csgo betting allowed. With csgobetting rank 1.
Snow + rendeer = ultimate happiness
I expected Russia to be lower tbh....
i bring my country rate way up
Gj Finland true happiness 8/8
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