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biggest L Valve took was giving shroud access to cs2 when constatly shat on csgo
+1 should have given him VAC ban instead
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+community and trade ban
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not really an L, but it doesn't feel right when the guy always talked shiit about csgo after he stopped playing
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What shit are y'all talking about? All he said it was dead game coz devs appeared to get lazy and unbothered to work on it. Next to that he got tired of it getting repetitive to him, completely valid subjective reasons. He never said the game itself sucked.
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"unbothered to work on it". And that is the biggest lie people spread about CSGO devs, when the game is one of the most well optimized games on the planet. Since Operation Shattered Web, they have consistently added content to the game, while also working on CS2.
CS fans fans are so spoiled, you have no idea of what a bad developer, who actually doesn't care about supporting their games really is like.
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I do have an idea but I don't hate on a man just because his opinion differs from mine. Shroud just expressed his personal feeling, and I can see where he was coming from as an operation and new cases once a year didn't cut it for him. Nobody knew devs were working on CS2. Regardless tho, you absolutely can feel burned out constantly doing the same thing getting repetitive.
biggest W in "free" marketing tho
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Hearing and seeing in action by competent testers are two different things.
At this point i think it's free marketing and as long as my sales are going stupid crazy i'm happy with everything that's happening.
For the first time i have to say this is a massive W for valve and sellers. Stockholm holos+Antwerp holos too stronk (+much more guns, agents, patches and literally everything else but so far Stockholm holos are absolute champions).
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im sure valve want people that criticize them to play in the beta
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csgo did stall in the numbers department while valorant hype was at its peak. he wasnt completely right or wrong. And the point of the beta is to give feedback, negative or positive, they dont want bootlickers
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Do you know the difference between dying and stalling?
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the na scene did die , we had 1 team that was borderline t1 (liquid). we have no popular streamers beside flom, and id bet na player count was at an all time low
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NA dying = game died? Only the e-sporte scene died. The game dies or lives by the players, not streamers or professionals.
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boo hoo keep crying to me about something another man said bro.
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Bro you are the one who tried to spin the conversation changing the meaning of "game died" twice only to defend a dude from your country
That's what's fucking pathetic.
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i know its bad
he never criticized them, that's the point. All he was saying is how CS is a dead game and then he actually spoke nonsense that could be easily countered
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HAHAHAHA. Bro if you watch shroud stream yesterday he even shat on CS2 and literally said its so bad and weird, lots of improvements.., Val did this blah blah blah.
shroud's takes are bad though and he hasn't been playing the game at a high level for like 5-6 years at this point. Easy marketing? sure, good opinions? hell no.
He git 120k players to watch it,they don't care if he shat on whatever, he gives them good promo for arguably the most influential game of fps-genre and their next outing.
KEKW these threads man...
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wtf
L thread. L user
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L life for you bud.
famass is garbage nt
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very original. do better next time. beans on toast kek
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W flair W flag L name L user
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name
that's all
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the famass is worse than the galil in every way and should be buffed.
+1 op is off a Percocet
meanwhile 2 times major winners not invited omegakekw
It's a Valve W, Shroud is advertising CS2, when he was meant to be part of a team making their own shitty game but all he is doing is taking away from the people who would play his game when there is a clearly superior product already in existence.
I don't understand why Valve gave keys to likes of Shroud, Tarik, n0thing etc. when they have left the game and contributed literally nothing back to the game and consistently shit on it and they jumped ship the at the very first sign they have.
They should give these beta keys to people that ACTUALLY gives a shit about the game and wants the game to improve not just some washed-up valorant dick sucking club coming over. They have consistently and openly said Riot is better than Valve.
I feel rn Valve shouldn't really think of marketing and focus on actually improving the game with bugs, weps etc. and actual current pros/cs streamers are best for this. Not these valorant shitlords.
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It's good marketing I guess
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gigachad shroud took pity on valve and went to play their pathetic parody of valorant
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valorant will die within 5 years
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cs already dead
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25 million players last month. Highest peak players ever a week ago. How is that a dead game?
jk i know you're baiting
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Every Valoranter should be given a path to forgiveness.
Our religion (counterstrike-ism) is about compassion.
He's a big streamer.
Presumably it was good press and advertisement of CS2.
Well grubby ( twitch.tv/grubby) doesn't even play CS:GO and still have an access to CS2 wcyd.
Man this is capitalism. Moral and pride goes away,all they care is money. He is just a tool to bring them more money
he brings alot of NA kids over that good for us? why would we gatekeep the cs community
Its irrelevant. At least NA people sees how CS on Source 2 looks like. He would constantly talk shit from his basement on his streams because he developed jealousy disorder personality over the years. He sees Valorant is going nowhere, its dead project. He lives in a fucking Canada thinking the whole world is Canada and everyone plays Valorant, not like CSGO got insane player peaks this month thanks to the rest of the world.
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Shroud was not the only one crapping on cs2.
Shroud '2Faced' Toledo is a professional weight lifter lifting the two weights of riot games for the trash game called "Valulrant". Fans from NA worship Shroud and rate him as 'the best FPS player ever' even though he was dogwater during his time as a pro in CS and his short stint on the professional Valulrant team "Sentilulz". He is well known for being a clout chaser, firstly calling CS shit and then sucking on Valve to give him beta access and calling the game 'very good'. Experts from HLTV say that Shroud should stop but Toledo does not give two fucks and likes being a joke.
Really anyone who watches shroud has lost in my book
Shroud is just a butthurt pathetic player. He shits on a game because he could never achieve anything relevant in it.
I'm not usually promoving hate or this kind of ideas, but indeed giving the opportunity to a guy who talked shit about the game sounds kinda ilogical... There's a BUT tho:
They gave access to a guy with THOUSANDS of viewers, so free massive exposure. Also even if shroud has talked shit on the past, people just forget those things. This guy can and the braindead audience will buy it, no matter what he said in the past.
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Kids here hate on every successful people
csgo fans when you tell them playing csgo is not a personality trait 😭😭😭
like it or not, the guy is huge and he looks excited about cs2 and I'm happy to see it.. so as tarik.. this is.. if they comeback, many valo NA pros will comeback right after and NA cs might start to build up again with new talents..
these two personalities are so important for cs and was sad losing them and still is sad unless they officially play cs2 often
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