Heroic had 50/50 games with Navi even with Boombl4 and even before Boombl4. Even when Heroic had blameF. With Boombl4, everyone was on insane form and even s1mple was in form of his life, he used to save them so much. But now Heroic has gotten stronger and on other hand Navi has gotten worse and players have lost their forms specially s1mple. I do not think boombl4 would have fixed that either. Vitality is still a pretty good team for Navi, they have beaten them alot, especially even without boombl4. G2 is the only team which has turned their luck since boombl4 left, with boombl4 Navi used to smash G2, but now they get smashed by G2 pretty easily. S1mple seems nervous, he usually plays bad when he plays vs his rivals such as coldzera, NiKo, ZywOo and now m0nesy- Hence Navi loses to G2 pretty easily. But can be other reasons aswell.

bro just becuz navi suck now does not mean that they wouldnt suck with boombl4

yes

Ofc I know this, Im just making a joke. But he is clearly not comfortable in some way shape or form. Idc about underperforming rookies usually but I want him to at least have a career after Navi if it goes that way. Rn though his career as pro will pretty much be over if he is kicked soon.

Of course they can. Heroic are favorite because of recent form of both teams but historically they lost to NaVi more often than not.

hltv.org/matches/2359841/mouz-vs-cloud9-.. Indeed fat fuck b0txile shines with an incredible <1 KD every single map in the Major play-offs Not gonna mention the fact you need to qualify for the big moments first, so basically you agree that fat fuck b0txile just bing chilling and doing nothing while GOAT sh1ro carries these bots, even in big matches tho, ahahahhahahah, ax0le can't even get 1.0 rating vs mouz lul "star player" And yeah, watch s0mple getting bullied vs cocadiaN god

They are the 3rd best team itw

I disagree, Navi players always seem to be able to shift into some higher gears when it matters, not just s1mple. So far its been all of Navi who will make it happen. Unlikely teams like vitality who seem to crumble and struggle to get it over the line with

s1mple maybe carrying, but perfecto and sdy trolling xD

s0mple in 2023 lul

I think so, but could be 2-1.

Ok let’s compare some things electroNic > apEX B1t > Spinx npl < dupreeh perfecto > magisk Now c9 B1t < Ax1le ElectroNic > nafany npl < Hobb1t Perfecto > Buster Is NaVi teammates really that much worse? I’d argue they are better, even when s1mple is underperforming they r finding a way to win

I didn’t say that, maybe u reply to wrong guy

i agree heroic would beat faze but this isn't how cs works, i feel like faze would make a tougher opponent than heroic against navi

no bro 1/7 maps won thats not a half. Faze and C9/Ence are waiting

and godfecto eheh

Yep ez for navi

Papatronic outplaying karrigan hardddd today brotha

only compared to Faze