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npl early summary
AdreN | 
Kazakhstan AdreN_1_major_adreN_0_major 
its been 4 months and 47 lan maps since npl joined navi's main roster yet its still pretty difficult to see what his role is even supposed to look like other than filling 5th player spot on the server to not get auto disqualified. not blaming npl or anything (or at least to soon to) but rather questioning whats exactly blade's idea and progression vector here. is he a supportive element of the roster helping to set up plays via throwing utility? far from it, per stats he records least flashes thrown per round, and deals second least nade damage per round only to s1mple hltv.org/stats/teams/players/flashes/460.. is he an entry fragger creating space, being the bait and distracting opponent aim so that his core stars could effectively trade during mid round executions? again least entry attemps on T side and second least on CT (to perfecto) hltv.org/stats/teams/players/openingkill.. ... perfecto's lack of initiative is at least expected due to his late round clutch play: so far this year perfecto won 18 1vsX clutch situations for comparison b1t won 21 s1mple won 14 electronic won 9 while being main entry fragger of the team npl won 7 for navi fans nowadays its quite painful to watch them play against properly functioning teams such as g2 or faze. especially since navi core's firepower is often enough to beat easier teams and as a result build the illusion of them gaining momentum to be able to win the tournament.
2023-03-27 14:54
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hes simply not good enough and much worse than sdy on top of that
2023-03-27 14:57
EDIT: least entry attemps on CT side and second least on T (to perfecto)
2023-03-27 14:58
#5
Staehr | 
France Ansi
nice thread and good take! this is why i come to HLTV.
2023-03-27 14:58
- npl + JERRY asap
2023-03-27 15:01
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#24
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Italy Karimk03
Navi won't recruit Russian players
2023-03-27 15:21
#7
DD | 
Philippines libon23
NPL is the future of cs
2023-03-27 15:02
#8
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Europe kuu1
So simple has the least grenade damage from the team?! Weapons abuser confirmed?
2023-03-27 15:03
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caught in 4k (at least uses flashes tho)
2023-03-27 15:08
#9
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Wales Hi_Im_New
There is more to a team than support and entry, he's just that 3rd rifle guy that doesn't have any particular job and is just in the entry pack. Like yeah he hasn't been great but he's 17 still and he is improving
2023-03-27 15:04
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agree mens, just didnt want this to be any longer. yet tbh i still struggle to see pros of npl being 5th in multitude of cons
2023-03-27 15:11
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most cons would be erased if perfecto wasnt in star roles in half the maps. Srsly Perfecto goes from being top1-2 support to the most bot star player i have seen, and B1t has to sit there and watch this guy steal his positions and perform like a bot. All cus Blade thinks supporting and baiting is harder than performing in star positions so by that logic perfecto should by rly good, but hes not and now electonic looks like shit igl on surface and people think npl is shit too
2023-03-27 22:28
#10
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Denmark Mursten
He's the info bot
2023-03-27 15:05
4 replies
i heard their teamspeak he sounds like someone's son being invited to play mm
2023-03-27 15:13
3 replies
Can you post a link to that TS recording, please?
2023-03-27 15:57
2 replies
1 reply
Thanks!
2023-03-27 22:19
#11
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Azerbaijan S1mple2002
But it's obvious that Navi will not do any changes before Major. Rmr starts in 10 days. They will consider the changes only after major
2023-03-27 15:05
-npl +b1ad3
2023-03-27 15:09
i heard they hate him so much they dont even sit with him while eating at events x))
2023-03-27 15:09
2 replies
Dont they beat and bully him as well?))
2023-03-27 15:25
i was dont know this details
2023-03-27 16:01
Thank you for your effort on this thread
2023-03-27 15:12
#21
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Russia HikZ
+Kvem ez top 1
2023-03-27 15:15
this guy has potential, his aim is quite good but i think his communication is almost non existent and also his gamesense is really not up there for tier 1. is he better than sdy? definitely
2023-03-27 15:19
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hmm im not sure, sdy had his moments where he joined the party and navi snowballed hot teams like faze or vitality over at blast playoff, cologne final 5 map thriller as well (while npl is just never there, averaging 15 ish kills per map). but defo sdy was not the guy if u wanna win back to back
2023-03-27 15:32
As a fan of NAVI I really appreciate these threads which, instead of just being a critique (-npl +igl, blablabla), provide an analysis of what's going on. Indeed, NAVI has won games with 4 players (I still remember the inferno navi vs rare atom that they lose to npl with 8 kills on a map that ends in OT) but when they meet solid teams like Faze, they do, for my taste, the ridiculous. The truth is that I don't know how they beat Heroic, I don't know.
2023-03-27 15:20
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Electronic s1mple and b1t were just ridiculous
2023-03-27 15:35
navi's strenght remains to be skill ceiling of individual stars being higher than anyone in, for instance, heroic. so if elec and b1t hitting shots and feeling it they can just run away with maps. also im really pissed to see absolute legends of the game in s1mple and electronic wasting yet another year due to strange roster decisions while many arguably worse players sittting with multiple major titles
2023-03-27 15:39
The secret is...... heroic has no star players. As simple as that. Navi has the cream of the cream in simple elec and bit and perfecto to is insane. None of those players can be matched by heroic players in full form. Its sad and unfair but some players just are better, ex niko, zywoo, shiro. Heroic also gets counterplayed by navi and vitality also, its like their gameplay is the perfect counter.
2023-03-27 15:45
wasnt npl second highest rated in navi in heroic match?
2023-03-27 16:16
#25
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India arc_
good shit
2023-03-27 15:22
lol I thought they specifically got him to entry and be a bait. Looks like he's just a worse sdy
2023-03-27 15:42
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mens i was on that ship too but looking them play made me question it, then i looked at stats and was left astonished
2023-03-27 15:49
he is so bad they could have kept sdy
2023-03-27 15:54
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#37
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Russia Soawii
he's playing almost the same as sdy on worse roles while being 17, sdy wouldn't improve, npl still can
2023-03-27 16:00
2 replies
Would be more optimistic if npl was aim machine like navi jr b1t but npl just doesn't seem to be that good from the start
2023-03-27 16:10
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#49
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Russia Soawii
You're right, i think if he doesn't improve until player break they'll change him. Results have definetely been good with 2 top3-4 at recent tier 1 events but npl has not looked amazing
2023-03-27 16:18
Simple got karma for flaming sdy now he got a worse player
2023-03-27 16:05
navi, just sign yekindar))
2023-03-27 16:15
I think that npl's role in the team is to be the bitch, basically there to fill in any gaps. He mostly is there to double up with someone or to throw nades while someone goes in for the play. When watching games, I've rarely seen him without at least someone else to trade him / for him to trade. I also have a theory that the main reason for him being on the team might be money. npl is academy player so NaVi can pay him a low salary. Since most eSports teams do not make profit / lose money + ongoing war so they can't stay in main facility. I think that post-war, they will get an actual igl like fear, OWNER, etc.
2023-03-27 16:18
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financial take might be true i thought about it too, navi's sponsor list got thinned out last year so maybe they are just waiting to more stable situation in region
2023-03-27 20:42
#51
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United States Outl1er
-npl + Jerry when?
2023-03-27 20:49
+fear when ?
2023-03-27 22:29
npl get exposed against faze
2023-03-27 22:30
#56
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Finland zobba
i really hope npl grows as player, he seems pretty cool ^^
2023-03-27 22:34
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