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Sweden KennyKEX 
2023-03-27 17:28
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#1
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Sweden KennyKEX
2023-03-27 17:29
i aint reading all that
2023-03-27 17:30
24 replies
Why can’t Finnish people read? #4 #8
2023-03-27 17:34
15 replies
Why cant americans be healthy and not fooled by the government
2023-03-27 17:39
12 replies
#49
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Hungary faltopfake
double burn!
2023-03-27 18:14
6 replies
Like being the “happiest country” while having one of the highest suicide rates in the world
2023-03-27 18:49
5 replies
hold this L
2023-03-27 18:55
Those happiness rankings are misnamed. They should be called "content" rankings, as all the shit they measure isn't providing happiness, but merely makes you content.
2023-03-27 19:06
It's because they die of happiness /s
2023-03-27 21:33
2 replies
#89
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Finland SharpyS
Fr
2023-03-27 21:36
lol
2023-03-28 00:19
#67
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Iceland Voidsphere
Dang, burned him alive.
2023-03-27 18:51
1 reply
The highest rates of fetal and teenage alcoholism in the world is actually healthy in Nordic countries Please teach me so I can recover from that epic burn
2023-03-27 19:24
#85
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Albania Fleeperi
you think you are not being fooled by the goverment? XD PAY 50% TAX INCOME HAHA.
2023-03-27 21:32
Actually true. :(
2023-03-28 17:40
hahaha
2023-03-28 19:38
TLDR?
2023-03-27 18:50
#92
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Finland SharpyS
I am tired and reading a wall of text ain't just going to happen right now
2023-03-27 21:37
TLDR :Hunden cheated with the bug and confessed, he said only he cheated and heroic players were unaware. He changed his mind and triked the only succetible player niko to say he knew and was involved in the cheating, in an attempt to let heroic players be banned too. This is old news honestly. The new stuff is that lewis got in his hands the proof that hunden was in talks with astralis while employed in heroic, literally like a spy, making contest for the leaked strats episode to astralis he did.
2023-03-27 17:48
6 replies
I never imagined it could get any worse. The only thing I don't understand is why organizations like ESIC exist if they don't investigate any of the cases that have substantial evidence backing them up, at least in the tier 1 scene. Those allegations of NA match fixing have yet to be resolved. I suspected something was fishy from the start, but it now appears to be a literal money laundering scheme designed to exploit a loophole. Their partnership with a gambling site further proves my point. So much for their self-proclaimed "Non-Governmental & Nonprofit Organization".
2023-03-27 18:23
5 replies
ESIC and the lot are just a bunch of idiots who got in over their heads. It's like you or me running a "fair play treehouse", all fun and games until lawyers get involved and we're shown up for not knowing our asses from our elbows. Also how can you go against the current when it's clear as day orgs don't care where money comes from and what scandals people are involved in because the zoomer army doesn't even have the mental aptitude to sit through one damn article and need a tldr. Nobody cares and nobody will care.
2023-03-27 19:14
1 reply
The thing about ESIC that most people seem to not be aware of, is that they are not independent by any stretch.
2023-03-28 19:42
this is what happens when astralis can "recommend" hunden a lawyer to strongarm esic
2023-03-27 21:52
1 reply
i hardly imagine u can even call it strong arming. i imagine any 2nd year law student could probably find enough simple crap about esics right of jurisdiction or whatever that invalidates any bans within 5 minutes.
2023-03-28 18:44
ESIC are just jumping as high as they are told by their sponsors. It's that simple.
2023-03-28 19:43
Average finnish L
2023-03-28 19:36
ban this guy for life and lets move on
2023-03-27 17:30
32 replies
+1
2023-03-27 17:34
+1
2023-03-27 17:52
+1
2023-03-27 18:08
+1
2023-03-27 18:08
#54
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Hungary faltopfake
+1
2023-03-27 18:24
+1
2023-03-27 18:28
And imprison RL for releasing illegally obtained private information while we are at it. He is even worse than HUNDEN, supporting criminal activities like this. At least HUNDEN isn't breaking any laws whatsoever (only S.Korea has laws against cheating in online games.) HUNDEN is a cheater Richard Lewis is a criminal culprit, supporting the obtaining of illegal information by releasing it.
2023-03-27 18:41
15 replies
#68
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Iceland Voidsphere
You're a jerk.
2023-03-27 18:52
4 replies
Could you explain why? I am not protecting HUNDEN, I am protecting privacy as a whole, something which RL apparently don't care the slightest about. If he did, he had passed on the information to the correct people, instead of this public release. He is borderline criminal, and very much like a fence (a person selling stolen goods.)
2023-03-27 18:54
3 replies
#73
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Iceland Voidsphere
Bro, he basically ripped off the whole scene, there's no privacy regarding CSGO for him. Period. The more people know about him - or at least his behavior in this game - the better.
2023-03-27 19:02
2 replies
Now who is the jerk? Expose yourself more please. Supporting criminal activities to catch a cheater.....Your morale is completely screwed.
2023-03-27 19:03
#137
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Dominica FallczE
Scene is a scene but a law is a law. Not sure if #60 is factual but if it is it's runner up on another L streak by RL after CS2 article.
2023-03-28 19:34
pretty sure it is legally obtained , read the text
2023-03-27 21:50
5 replies
thats what i gathered too
2023-03-27 21:53
That doesn't mean they are free to release the private information to the public.
2023-03-28 16:00
3 replies
is it private ? usually court cases are public to remain transparent and fair, anyone can look at them
2023-03-28 16:15
I think you just hate journalism
2023-03-28 17:41
1 reply
Not at all, I just hate reporters with little thought process of their own.
2023-03-28 17:43
Yeah let's also imprisoned Snowden to reveal the CIA conspiracy even though that reveal helped the world in many ways but hey, he broke the law, he must go!..... .....stfu
2023-03-28 19:39
2 replies
That's something completely different, and something which affects more or less all of us, and you are very well aware of this, and know you are fishing in very deep waters.
2023-03-28 19:39
1 reply
Ok let's compare to something similar. A guy exposes his own company revealing that they use lead paint for children toys but HEY he broke the law! He must be thrown in jail, that motherf*cker how dare he do the right thing? I think you just hate journalism, because what we are discussing here is public and the stuff that is not are from whistleblowers and last time I checked that is f*cking legal. Now go to bed not before sucking hunden's tiny c*ck thabk you :)
2023-03-28 19:45
You do realize this article is exposing Hunden for potentially commiting a crime right? In situations like that there is no invasion of privacy. He literally signed a contract with another organization (Astralis) while he still had obligations to fill for Heroic... This could literally be considered corporate espionage. RL is only informing people and literally did nothing wrong. If he didn't put this out, it's unlikely we would be informed, which you should want. Don't hate on someone for trying to keep people smart on things and exposing people who should be exposed.
2023-03-28 22:22
astralis will hire him anyway just with a different job title
2023-03-27 18:44
+1
2023-03-27 18:47
+1
2023-03-27 19:24
i have to agree here :V
2023-03-27 19:28
#83
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Finland Hekee
+1
2023-03-27 21:28
+1
2023-03-27 21:49
+1
2023-03-27 21:58
+1
2023-03-28 00:19
+1
2023-03-28 18:57
#149
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Sweden MAJE5TIC
+1
2023-03-28 19:48
#4
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Finland QKFin
I ain't reading allat. TLDR?
2023-03-27 17:30
#6
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United States kennyRiddim
tldr: hunden is fucked
2023-03-27 17:31
#7
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Italy Squillo
richard lewis website is dogshit man, i can't read without having a fucking stroke for the full white text on full black background... hire a professional designer ffs
2023-03-27 17:32
12 replies
what
2023-03-27 17:33
3 replies
you cant read his comment?
2023-03-27 17:35
#16
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Sweden hoey
uk person cant understand his own language???
2023-03-27 17:36
i'm not the best english writer in the world but i think what i wrote is understandable
2023-03-27 17:43
The good thing is that his article if fully readable. This is not a thread about lewis skill in web design tho. Its about hunden being dirty even more than we knew.
2023-03-27 17:51
its substack it just is like that i dont think he chose the color scheme
2023-03-27 17:53
#25
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Netherlands Dutch69
+1 its fucking terrible
2023-03-27 17:54
it's as presentable as RL is in his videos
2023-03-27 17:57
lmao are u really complaining about the unsubbed version of the site? the point is that its annyoing to read so u fuckin sub...
2023-03-27 18:17
3 replies
So if you sub you get better UI ? didn't know that
2023-03-28 08:38
2 replies
u launch the site, then after a paragraph it gets fucked and says "pls sub" and i can only read it if i scroll weirdly. so i assume if i sub this goes away and everything appears as normal.
2023-03-28 18:40
1 reply
#138
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Dominica FallczE
There's literally button called "Continue reading"
2023-03-28 19:36
tldr xD?
2023-03-27 17:33
8 replies
-101 pages of Information on HUNDEN communicating with Astralis, validated already -Astralis will mald -HUNDEN will mald -HLTV forums will have fun
2023-03-27 18:08
7 replies
everoyne alrdy knows abou cheating scandal xdd
2023-03-27 18:09
6 replies
it's not about the cheating scandal, it is about him essentially joining Astralis while still being contracted to Heroic and his leaking of Heroics strats vs Astralis.
2023-03-27 18:10
5 replies
He had a ban in 2021 for this exact reason, correct me if I'm wrong.
2023-03-27 21:36
4 replies
that was only for attempting to leak strats i believe
2023-03-27 21:56
2 replies
#140
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Dominica FallczE
Attempting or doing so? I thought he actually did
2023-03-28 19:37
1 reply
they were never opened i believe technically he did leak i guess
2023-03-28 19:38
This is also going to be huge because Heroic are suing him
2023-03-28 17:42
I enjoy his content but hasnt he said that he is quiting esport like half year ago? It doesnt seem like he is leaving with this substack stuff, or maybe he just wants to piss all over the scene before he lefts I dunno.
2023-03-27 17:47
5 replies
he said that he will not cover new stuff but will continue writing about his old stuff if some new information comes to air.
2023-03-27 18:07
3 replies
What was old about CS2 or EG complain?
2023-03-27 18:09
2 replies
CS2 probably because he got tipped off by someone else, EG because him vs EG is old news? :D
2023-03-27 18:13
#145
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Dominica FallczE
CS2 technically isn't an esport article
2023-03-28 19:41
He doesn't like working with the current TOs and orgs because of the Saudi money.
2023-03-28 17:42
#24
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India psn46
Unban forsaken !!!
2023-03-27 17:53
#26
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Finland Trob1950
TLDR, HUNDEN while employed by Heroic acted and thought like he was employed by Astralis, sent Strats that specifically counter Heroic just before their match, gonna get rickety rickety retked in court
2023-03-27 17:54
5 replies
depends on the contract. He acted scummy is confirmed but what Hunden signed for is not. It is highly likely that there is a line that he shouldnt leak information(most companies do this and you have to pay a fine).It is also likely there is a line in there that says he should not work for other companies while employed by Heroic. But if the contract is not set up correctly then hunden can be a free man(legally speaking) This will most likely prompt a ban from ESIC or ESL though.
2023-03-27 18:05
2 replies
#48
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Finland Trob1950
lol ESIC aint touching him now that his attorney stepped in... big scared of the legal system ESIC is
2023-03-27 18:14
1 reply
esic is a joke, but the organization heroic is the one in the court against HUNDEN as far as i understand the situation. and they definitely have the means to have contractual violations between danish orgs and danish individuals looked into by real judges. especially in denmark. as far as i heard, cs2 leaking was in the actual fuckin news in some cases in scandinavia xD
2023-03-28 18:47
Almost correct, but your mistake make him look way worse than he is. He released information on Heroic's counter tactics vs various teams, not information on how to counter Heroic themselves. But be a RL drama queen supporter, and exaggerate, support criminal activities like he does. A borderline criminal is worse than a cheater. Ban HUNDEN and imprison the drama queen himself please.
2023-03-27 18:45
1 reply
lmao ur right why does anyone even care about this xDDD this is just vidyo game xDDD
2023-03-28 18:48
"This is where the fun begins." - Anakin Skywalker
2023-03-27 17:59
I need to get off of this site. I kept reading hunden as hunter.
2023-03-27 18:00
#FreeHunden
2023-03-27 18:03
im still not done reading the mrgirl manifesto now i gotta read the richard lewis manifesto
2023-03-27 18:10
#50
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India quickzilla
LET HIM COOK
2023-03-27 18:17
Ban astralis
2023-03-27 18:17
Still waiting for heroic ban
2023-03-27 18:33
Wow, I didn't know much about the Hunden drama, but Astralis org seems really sucky now
2023-03-27 18:40
1 reply
#71
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Sweden KennyKEX
Has always sucked
2023-03-27 18:58
omg, so hunden cam is not a nice guy. so shocked.
2023-03-27 18:48
"It raises questions not only about the conduct of Petersen but also the Astralis organisation that their tournament partners might want to review. Given the scope of the findings we shall be publishing the material in batches, outlining the discoveries alongside the substantiating evidence. The first piece will be published later today." That's how he ends his post. RL the fence with no obligation to the law, that's something for lesser beings. He is 100% speculating. I have more questions about RL and his criminal friends than Astralis's doubtful behavior.
2023-03-27 19:01
10 replies
#82
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Sweden Squilliam
Who are his criminal friends? Don't know much about him other then reading his report's every now and then
2023-03-27 21:24
3 replies
Whoever releases private information to the public is a criminal.
2023-03-28 15:58
2 replies
#110
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Sweden Squilliam
That's not true at all
2023-03-28 16:00
1 reply
Oh yeah? You are lying. Short and simple. You are not even allowed to release video footage of a burglar in your home.
2023-03-28 16:06
ur mentally ill
2023-03-27 21:32
1 reply
You are the type of guy who goes for the man when you can't get the ball. LOL
2023-03-28 15:58
#102
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Europe Ex0dus_
nt Hunden
2023-03-27 22:00
1 reply
2023-03-28 16:16
nt Hunden Alt
2023-03-28 16:15
1 reply
2023-03-28 16:16
what about heroic players???
2023-03-27 19:26
cheating =/ using bugs. Guys, veryone deserves on second chance, it is horrible what he did, but it was about bug, its valve fault. He didnt use outside files like wh or radar hack, he used bug which vslve should fix instant or this bug shouldnt never exist. Stop livin the past, he was banned, now he is not and its new beginnin, chill guys.
2023-03-27 19:32
13 replies
yeah, valve doesn't make games with proper anticheats, so all cheating is basically using bugs
2023-03-27 21:34
9 replies
Bro, dont compare wallhack, aimlock to spectate bug which should be fixed. It was a bug. He used this bug illegal, but dont compare it to real cheats.
2023-03-27 21:36
8 replies
did you even read the report? its not about bug abuse but rather internal strat sharing from heroic to astralis. This is breaking an NDA contract which is illegal even outside this video game.
2023-03-27 21:40
7 replies
Nothing is approved, is all about „leaks” of concersation, u can trust in all shit u see.
2023-03-27 21:52
6 replies
RL has lied before, claiming a TO opened up mice to get direct access to the on board chips. (this is the only fool proof way to check for hardware cheats) This was a blatant lie.
2023-03-28 16:19
5 replies
And how exactly do u know its a lie?
2023-03-28 16:21
4 replies
He stated it was the rules. The contracts became available, and nothing of this sort was included. Noone else confirmed his claim, not a single soul.
2023-03-28 17:37
3 replies
You really think they would state something like that? Specially when many pros just get new stuff every tournament or let the to keep them for the next one
2023-03-28 18:00
2 replies
I don't think he said that. He said it, period.
2023-03-28 19:13
1 reply
Can u link where he said this
2023-03-28 22:01
you did not read the article, clearly
2023-03-27 21:59
First of all: Just because a game has a bug doesn't make it alright to use it. He still decided himself to use the bug and was punished accordingly. Secondly, the reason why Hunden is hated, despite only being one of many coaches who abused the bug, is because of how he 'betrayed' Heroic afterwards. This report is about the case with Heroic, and how he possibly leaked strats to Astralis.
2023-03-28 18:55
1 reply
He was already hated before the leak. He was the first to get caught, and got as much hate as the other 30+ combined, despite being the one who helped the investigation more than any other coach. Zero logic hate.
2023-03-28 19:17
finally
2023-03-27 21:33
1 reply
#106
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Sweden KennyKEX
Yes
2023-03-28 08:40
TLDR; Danish Niko suffers from severe autism and Hunden is currently applying for jobs as a part-time dogwalker.
2023-03-28 19:23
You expect people in charge to be somewhat competent and have at least some life experience. Hiring a person for leaking opponent's strats? Demos are for losers, I guess
2023-03-28 22:31
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