after tax?
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before tax
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so after tax how much he got left?
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isn't estonia a tax heaven? xD
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Well sort of tax haven for companies, but there are many much better tax havens out there and he has to pay income tax for salaries.
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Which is 100% true and I would recommend this for all freelancers or digital nomads.
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he set up one company in which faze money comes, he takes 10k per month from that company as salary which gets taxed, most of the money is still in companies account which isnt taxed in estonia
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40k euro per month from faze
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more than dj
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unlucky for most Hltv mens
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we should host a hltv dj convention
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Opening ceremony for the Paris major
depressing
mens))
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And own 2 italian models
bruh that is so many people's annual salary
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Moving to FaZe saved his career. He should be more thankful.
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apparently he took a salary cut to join faze
but winnings made up for it
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Good
i doubt mouz can pay big salaries
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they were paying to ropz
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they usually don't but ropz was the exception basically since he was so good
No he did not take a paycut, it's just that other orgs (mostly g2) were willing to pay more than faze
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They saved eachother
actually crazy to realise the money the make for playing cs
zzz
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I can't imagine playing the game that much.
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40k per month to bait man thats a deal
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It’s crazy for Eastern Europe.
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Thats understandable tho and not really comparable. Maybe Tarik isnt playing pro but hes also doing his job for org, and hes one of the biggest esport content creators in the world at least in english language. His valo watch parties have bigger numbers than RIOT, and bigger than all of the csgo group stage matches on every tournament except major.
how much do you make?
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could be anything,
i think you're brainded thinking that's not a lot
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im asking what realistic amount of money can you make?
do you even realize it's more than (95% maybe even 99%? im fully guessing here, but there quite unachievable in most professions) of people
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Yeah, he’s being dumb or he’s rich and doesn’t realise
With eastern European taxes and cost of living, it's a lot.
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40k/month to play your favorite video game?yeah he is living good good :)))))
Seems like a pretty normal salary for a t1 player.
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Amount of money in football >>>>>> e-sports.
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I know how the system works. I was just pointing out that being in the top of worldwide CS still makes you earn less money than playing for some B-tier football team in a small country like The Netherlands. I understand what the reason behind this is, it still doesnt make me think that 750K for a marjor winning star like ropz is a lot. He probably even works harder than most pro-athlethes do (not comparing CSGO to a physical sport in any other way btw)
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ropz is an LLC kek
RIP his email address
Not saying that he doesn’t deserve it (because he’s actually part of a very few with big salaries in the pro scene that deserves it) , but seeing how much t1 players are paid really makes us think how sustainable this is on the long term.
Most orgs operates under debt in their esports teams backed up by venture capital. The day will come when big investors will get tired of throwing away money on the scene, if CEOs don’t find a way to make it profitable
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won life
I feel like I'm actually not surprised that someone in a top 10 team can actually get paid that much.
What really DOES surprise me is like.... how can, say, EG sustain like 30 players between CSGO and valorant?
I get that winnings don't really matter, it's about marketability. Brands signing on to be on the jersey, etc. But just how do tier 2 teams like Falcons, ATK, etc manage to pay much of anything? I get sponsoring a big name like Faze, liquid, astralis, etc, but just who on earth is sponsoring say K23, or Monte? And again, I get that they pay much less, but I'm surprised they have the ability to pay at all
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Venture Capital money backs up the scene for like 80% of orgs
Small orgs tho I don’t know how they manage to live. That’s why they doesn’t stick for too long I guess
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Ah yeah that makes sense.
I feel like these venture capital firms are generally not going to get a return on their investment.
But maybe it'll pay off in the long run, since esports is still growing and growing. Maybe they have enough money that they can afford to wait.
But yeah that's for big orgs. Small orgs are just dead in the water.
Maybe the hope is like, say for Movistar riders or BNE or something: if you're the one regional team of a country, local companies like that, and will be willing to sponsor and put their support behind their country.
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Yeah, I’d love to know how finances of a team like MR work. Another interesting case are tier 2 NA orgs, some of them pay salaries, others don’t, and the viewership isn’t good, there must be sponsors
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True. Some ppl just show their nude ass and get 100000000 millions for that useful stuff
Humanity fastly drifting to the bright end
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That's quite depressing, isn't it? Not saying I'm not happy for him, but it is quite sad when you realize that most people work for 8-10 hours a day and get like 1-3% of his salary
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“Leaked” like it’s not public for even more players
Ropz reading this and smiling 🙂 like in hltv confirmed podcast because he actually made more
I earnt way more by following the advice and guidance of the top g andrew
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