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Singapore yehah 
Do you still remember in 2018 debate device vs s1mple and everyone said device eco fragger, carried by his team, system player awp holder angle. Even in current worst Astralis and in nip he put good rating. Is device goat?
2023-03-28 13:59
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#1
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Wales Hi_Im_New
He puts up good rating but not goat rating
2023-03-28 14:00
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#4
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Italy alastt27
+1
2023-03-28 14:02
#18
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Norway Gjellan
He kinda does atm.
2023-03-28 14:32
5 replies
#20
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Wales Hi_Im_New
Last 3 months 1.00 vs top 5 opponents(8 maps) 1.00 vs top 10 opponents(8 maps) 1.14 vs top 20 opponents(24 maps) They're good but not goat
2023-03-28 14:34
4 replies
#31
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United States Outl1er
+1
2023-03-28 14:52
#37
gla1ve | 
Denmark JKTP
8 maps is a very small margin. The low rating is basically only based off one bad bo3 vs Heroic where they got smashed.
2023-03-28 15:29
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#38
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Wales Hi_Im_New
I don't care about the 8 maps, the 1.14 thing is more what I'm focussing on. 1.14 rating are great numbers but they aren't goat numbers
2023-03-28 15:30
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#40
gla1ve | 
Denmark JKTP
Yeah and i get that. I think some of it comes down to Astralis being in the current state that they are in. But 1.14 isn't even good for Devices Standards.
2023-03-28 15:39
+1
2023-03-28 14:50
#2
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United States cr4zy_m3
No
2023-03-28 14:00
s1mple the undisputed goat
2023-03-28 14:01
5 replies
#19
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Norway Gjellan
4 majors
2023-03-28 14:33
4 replies
majors are won by teams, best player titles are won by individuals. True, Astralis has won more but I think S1mple as an individual player is better than Dev1ce. Zywoo has been number 1 in the world a few times now but still hasnt won any major. That doesnt make him a bad player, it just means that Vitality as a team was not good enough to win one.
2023-03-28 14:43
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#39
gla1ve | 
Denmark JKTP
But the argument get's muddy once you take into account that it's a team game Maybe Device is more successful because he makes due with less space in the team. Similarly to someone like Broky. If Device wanted to play like S1mple and ZywOo you can't have a Dupreeh, Magisk and Xyp9x on their best positions. If Broky did you can't have TwistZz second entry and Ropz god lurk. Even though S1mple can carry 95% of all games, NAVI basically just lose whenever S1mple doesn't hard carry the team (With some rare exceptions) the same goes for Vitality and ZywOo. It's harder for a player with shit positions and supportive roles to carry if the star player has an off day when said player only has shit to work with. Astralis always felt much more like a team, than NAVI ever have.
2023-03-28 15:35
okay, n0rbert > zywoo
2023-03-28 15:19
1 reply
Honestly I agree with this statement
2023-03-28 15:22
#5
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Junior is the real Goat
2023-03-28 14:03
s1mple washed = 1.20 rating let that sink in
2023-03-28 14:03
i remember debate between hiko and s1mple who is better
2023-03-28 14:07
now simple the ecofragger
2023-03-28 14:08
device is the goat in terms of accolades. 4x major winner is more impressive than s1mple's 1.20+ average ratings if u ask me
2023-03-28 14:10
#10
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Denmark DaTrumf
Device has always been the goat
2023-03-28 14:14
#11
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Belgium w4lt3r
simple had higher highs but lower lows i feel
2023-03-28 14:20
device has been dog shit against T1 currently ( besides the Blast) , when it matters most he barley puts star performances , their EPL run proofs it
2023-03-28 14:23
5 replies
i would play like dog shit too if i had to play with two washed bots, a baiter and an upcoming talent
2023-03-28 14:27
4 replies
you would but not the most consistent player of all time , granted , astralis has barley played any "tier1" opposition with missing kato and all , so gotta wait more to see if he goes back to his star form
2023-03-28 14:28
where is that upcoming talent tho?:)
2023-03-28 14:31
2 replies
that was the joke
2023-03-28 14:38
1 reply
right
2023-03-28 14:49
Nonono
2023-03-28 14:25
device is the GOAT of CS:GO
2023-03-28 14:29
Even nowadays when NaVi looks weak s1mple drags them on his back through playoffs. How else can anybody explain why only NaVi made TOP4 of both tier 1 events this year. GOAT - that's why.
2023-03-28 14:38
i think s1mple a little better individually, but device has many more titles and was the main player on the team with the most dominant era of all time... so even thinking s1mple more skilled, i consider device the GOAT... remember that GOAT means the GREATEST player, not necessarily the most skilled player
2023-03-28 14:45
device and sh1ro most luckiest players of all time. in terms of raw skill zywoo and simple takes the cake.
2023-03-28 14:49
1 reply
luckiest meaning choking at semi at major and then winning 4 majors and becoming mr.consistent ?
2023-03-28 14:55
device secret was emilia
2023-03-28 14:49
1 reply
You mean emil "magisk" reif
2023-03-28 14:53
no device hooman
2023-03-28 14:51
i wish i could see prime tom cruise again... but he still solid
2023-03-28 14:51
No
2023-03-28 15:15
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