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lets face it they wont win the major and changes are 100% coming after -apex (surely) - dupreeh (very likely) I assume they will put Magisk into the IGL role as he is very close to their coach and they made it work once who should they pick? after major shuffle will make more player available but there are very few high tier players available my assumption: brollan, frozen,
2023-03-28 21:04
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Why would they -dupreeh?
2023-03-28 21:04
25 replies
JACKZ better
2023-03-28 21:05
13 replies
#9
h4rn | 
China pix3w
Not an upgrade over dupreeh
2023-03-28 21:10
12 replies
it is.. 100%
2023-03-28 21:28
11 replies
#27
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Germany Teuton1813
It really looked like he is. It felt so different, even though he is already old. But maybe until they find/get someone young, they should take him.
2023-03-28 21:32
6 replies
The honeymoon phase is a thing. Also the fact that other teams didn't know what to expect. It's impossible to say whether Jackz would've worked long term
2023-03-28 22:16
5 replies
Where was the honeymoon phase for when dupreeh first joined vitality? How is the long term working out for him?
2023-03-29 20:35
4 replies
It's not like it's a guarantee... I mean the concept isn't hard to grasp. They adapted their playstyle a lot with Jackz and other teams were slow to adjust. With dupreeh it wasn't that much of a change to what they did before
2023-03-29 20:43
2 replies
Look, I know the Jacky boy overperformed. But I think it's too much of a coincidence that things went so well after such a drastic change and then they went right back to their average form against ence. And especially considering that form, they should explore other options.
2023-03-29 21:11
1 reply
You're right. It's not a coincidence. It happened precisely for the reasons I stated above. That's why it's not enough to tell whether Jackz would actually work better with Vitality in the long run
2023-03-29 21:53
#95
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United Kingdom Jawsome159
In fairness Vitality may not have had a honeymoon phase in terms of winning event but Dupreehs first 2 events with Vita were a 1.16 and 1.19 rated performance, then he turned into a 0.9 to 1.0 rated player who occasionally had an event going 1.10
2023-03-29 20:49
#34
h4rn | 
China pix3w
Standin buff, forgot how bad he was in G2?
2023-03-28 21:35
2 replies
#72
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Poland Lipskii
yes he was bad, but he was playing bad roles in g2 while having way more active roles in vitality, i also remember aleksi saying in an interview that it was a mistake in g2 to put jackz into passive roles because his aim and overall playstyle fits better into active positions like the ones he played in vitality
2023-03-29 10:38
#98
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United Kingdom Jawsome159
Tbf he was put in roles like pit on Inferno which aren't really the poistions you want to be in if you have flashy aim like Jackz, the only time you get to fight players is when they're jumping out of aps which is obviously much harder to hit headshots. Also look at his events, He was an insane player when he was surrounded by the french players and even hunter or nexa but when NiKo entered the team he was obviously relagated to support roles because lets be honest, who would let Jackz be the star player when a talent like NiKo joines the team. I think he could be really good in Vitality for what its worth, especially with the french buff of Zywoo and maybe Apex
2023-03-29 20:55
3 BO3s don't reverse 50+ BO3s played under G2
2023-03-29 08:27
he is getting old and they want to build a roster that competes at the top level for more than 1 year
2023-03-28 21:24
Lol
2023-03-28 21:25
because he is trash since joining ?
2023-03-28 21:25
4 replies
Lol no He was 2nd carry after zywoo when he initially joined Check it out before calling out my flair
2023-03-29 10:57
3 replies
Only in blast groups though
2023-03-29 19:56
2 replies
Yes yes around the same number of matches played Who cares ESL or Blast BO3 is BO3
2023-03-29 20:38
1 reply
I agree and people don't consider that vitality played 2 bad teams in epl
2023-03-30 07:18
#25
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France Snabe_
Clueless I see
2023-03-28 21:30
2 replies
I dont watch their games so I asked, nothing wrong about that.
2023-03-28 21:31
1 reply
it's because of people like #23 that he assumed you were implying they shouldn't remove dupreeh
2023-03-28 21:33
he's 30...
2023-03-28 23:28
Just get Jackz and a good IGL from France (idk any)
2023-03-28 21:05
7 replies
#28
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Europe KiroBullS
ALEX
2023-03-28 21:32
5 replies
Is he good?
2023-03-28 21:37
4 replies
NO
2023-03-28 22:08
#71
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Europe KiroBullS
no i was joking. nexa should be better but he is not french. SO i think magisk to igl and find bettter rifler
2023-03-29 10:35
2 replies
magisk to IGL? Is this NaVi cosplay challenge?
2023-03-29 17:13
1 reply
#97
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Poland kruky
Magisk were igl in astralis during gla1ve's break and he did really well
2023-03-29 20:55
NBKING
2023-03-28 22:12
I think Zywoo won't be as effective without apex, or another french igl. It might not be the best option, but let them go back to a full french roaster, even if they have less firepower than Vita rn, they have zywoo and anything is possible. They are holding him hostage for the sake of trying to go international, let's face it it's not working and rebuilding everything is going to be a pain in the ass.
2023-03-28 21:07
9 replies
ZywOo was the best player in the world before playing with apex as an IGL
2023-03-28 21:38
8 replies
With a french igl
2023-03-28 22:08
7 replies
ALEX is not french
2023-03-28 22:13
4 replies
xddd name checks out on that belgian guy
2023-03-28 22:17
You got me reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally good !!!! Turns out vitality already had international experience since they played with uk player. Go figure why they used that excuse when the danes came in 🤔🤔🤔🤔
2023-03-28 22:31
1 reply
name ?
2023-03-29 11:19
Speaks french fluently and lived there for 10 years. Language and culture is not the problem, so in practice he is as good as french
2023-03-29 10:48
ZywOo was the best FPL player before joining vitality, idk why you think he'll loose his abilities without a french speaking igl
2023-03-28 22:32
1 reply
Dude
2023-03-28 22:34
Get a decent awper and let Zywoo rifle
2023-03-28 21:07
5 replies
do you really think that'd make the team better? I doubt it. Unless it's a really good AWPer. The AWP is an incredibly important role.
2023-03-28 22:18
4 replies
Yes, I do. Since he said he prefers rifling I think that would make him happier in-game and therefore perform even better.
2023-03-29 08:25
2 replies
"prefer" doesn't mean "will have more impact".
2023-03-29 19:55
1 reply
#94
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Finland aleksiii
He is still one of the best riflers in the world but i dont personally think it would do much
2023-03-29 20:48
#86
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France iatis
I do too. Well it depends what player you got. I prefer wonderful than Jackz, but i prefer yekindar than Kenny's (RN). So yes, if you have either a top class awper either average rifler, go for the Awp.
2023-03-29 13:27
W0nderful and frozen. Zywoo to rifle and secondary awp. But poortality font have money so wont happen
2023-03-28 21:07
6 replies
nt but Vitality is the second richest european esports club behind fnatic
2023-03-28 21:34
4 replies
>fnatic >rich Poor bait
2023-03-28 22:10
3 replies
You must be very young. There was a time this brand dominated the marketing around eSports industry
2023-03-29 10:49
2 replies
>there Was
2023-03-29 11:25
1 reply
2023-03-29 12:06
#102
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Finland miskamisk
wonderful english is not good at all. there is Rio 2022 Major interview with him speaking english. he might stick to cis teams only idk
2023-03-29 21:19
any who saids -dup for jackz has a recency bias syndrome , jackz is a lifegamer , , his performance in groups is a exception , you need to look to the norms (him having 1 good game / 10 ) get flamez , steahr ,frozen.
2023-03-28 21:09
2 replies
i would never ever consider jackz he did will for some maps but he is too old and likely to drop off
2023-03-28 21:25
1 reply
+1 The initial performance is always a result of landing into a new roster. You're fresh in the roster and are very energetic.... almost like a corporate job XD Sometime later you start to drop off and the team gets an idea of your performance level
2023-03-29 11:02
#8
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Egypt BomberMan_
look man they might perform well in the major. everything will be clear after the major. +esports is not in its best state currently they might not be willing to spend the money
2023-03-28 21:09
#10
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France Evalion
Magisk isn't an IGL and why do you assume zonic will keep his job forever too?
2023-03-28 21:10
3 replies
apex wasnt a IGL either and made it work properly.
2023-03-28 21:26
1 reply
#40
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France Evalion
apEX worked as an IGL because he has all the qualities for it and in a full national team.
2023-03-28 21:50
Magisk would still be x10 better than Apex as an igl.
2023-03-28 21:34
#11
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North America K1nGoldY
Amanek sins (IGL) Snobling Zywoo Kyojin/Diviiii Jackz Malek
2023-03-28 21:17
2 replies
top 30 for sure
2023-03-28 21:27
tier 4
2023-03-28 21:34
ZywOo Magisk Spinx siuhy iM
2023-03-28 21:23
3 replies
yikes IM ? out of all the players you can think of
2023-03-28 21:26
1 reply
Well, yes, he’s a really good player
2023-03-28 21:48
#68
ZywOo | 
India CADBS
Both are t2.. Plus it will be downgrade..
2023-03-29 08:30
#20
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Poland Roxin
-dupreeh +dycha
2023-03-28 21:27
2 replies
too old
2023-03-28 22:04
1 reply
Who cars about age, dycha is very good and the best he’s ever been. He isn’t even old, he’s 25
2023-03-29 11:17
Disband all teams which didnt win major kekw.
2023-03-28 21:28
In my humble opinion Dupreeh has a chance to bounce back. His dip is not even that problematic because entire vita is playing like shit and ofc his rating will suffer with a bit more shittier role as compared to Astralis. I would argue that apex throwing so many rounds with blatant 322 plays brings Dupreeh's morale down. I would chop apex 100% and do it asap.
2023-03-28 21:28
8 replies
dupreeh has literally the shittiest role in the team, of course he's gonna look bad. With an igl like Apex, most of the good players would also look bad with him in that team.
2023-03-28 21:35
2 replies
yeah, give shitty role to dupreeh but let the literal worst player control outside of Nuke and wonder why you keep on loosing.
2023-03-28 21:46
1 reply
But Vitality aint losing on nuke
2023-03-28 23:27
dupreeh is not a bad player but his focus will shift to raise his child. at 30 years old he has not much left and vitality wants to build for the future
2023-03-28 22:04
3 replies
You know what his focus is?
2023-03-28 22:07
2 replies
so you would just gonna abadone your newborn child?
2023-03-28 23:24
1 reply
Just because you have a kid doesn't mean you stop doing everything else and put 100% time into the kid though. People don't stop doing their job because they raise a kid. But then again there comes the traveling part. During the season you will be staying in different countries/cities and most probably will miss spending lot of time with the kid. As a person who doesn't have a child and not a athlete who travels majority of the year... I have no idea what their point of view is. However I would love to see dupreeh playing at least for couple more years.
2023-03-29 08:38
Naa, vitality not winning trophies can't be only cuz of apex Dupreeh is also doing bad. Thee best change for vita would be getting an young good entry like flamez and siuhy or nexa as igl.
2023-03-28 23:29
mouz would have to be terrible at the major for frozen to leave for vitality
2023-03-28 21:28
#33
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Finland HARD4ENCE
tabseN or hampus as igl would make sense if either of them is available
2023-03-28 21:35
1 reply
and again a person who needs to get straight with their coach. zonic and magisk are already very close and have a similar approach
2023-03-28 22:02
guys, I know flair and all but they shouldn't pick up jackz even if he looked good, he's old and not that versatile, apex used him well because he used to be a similar player to jackzbut I don't really trust another IGL to use him like that in today's meta, better to get zywoo a young, hungry entry rifler. Ideal situation may be stealing Snappi and Nertz from ENCE
2023-03-28 21:52
4 replies
apex gets cut from vitality so no Jackz
2023-03-28 22:02
#52
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Argentina nymeros
nexa es available and fits well in apEX roles. And is better for international. Safe bet there
2023-03-28 22:15
It'd be really funny if they poached another rifler from ENCE
2023-03-28 23:25
they defintiely need agressive players. Slow style doesn''t work in international teams. G2 and FaZe have clearly shown that.
2023-03-28 23:28
ZywOo dropped a BO5 kill record to win EPL. No reason he can't do it for BO3 in Paris to win that shit especially considering it's in Paris.
2023-03-28 23:27
#69
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San Marino Loyuu
They need a great entry who doesn’t take a lot of space
2023-03-29 08:34
#75
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Bulgaria ba6ta_v1
I would say take nexa since hes the only hardworking igl on the market rn, and maybe for a rifler idk tbh, dupreeh might work a lil more
2023-03-29 10:56
G2 will lose their form soon sadly.. after that vitality will get niko and hunter, magisk will be igl.
2023-03-29 10:58
1 reply
Doubt g2 stood so much they wont go away even if their form dips
2023-03-29 11:09
+dycha +Siuhy Or +Nexa +Frozen Or +Nexa +Staehr
2023-03-29 11:09
1 reply
Good options Apart the second one, to many passive player.
2023-03-29 23:41
#84
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Serbia fileegg
Vitality Nexa.
2023-03-29 11:31
gg
2023-03-29 19:58
Brollan no wants to speak swedish. JackZ for sure better
2023-03-29 20:52
#99
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India psn46
disband soon
2023-03-29 20:56
Time to buy some of mouz or og players.
2023-03-29 21:12
The dans are more a problem than apex , they like to play CS like 5 years ago ..apex Can t lead the way he did in the past
2023-03-29 23:34
-apex +neXa -dupreeh + jackz / interz
2023-03-30 07:30
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