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People always talking about nafany being bad IGL but sh1ro is a problem too. He can't step up in important matches too often.
but he is the reason they are in those important matches so
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I agree but that doesn't change the problem
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rip sh1ro on sick leave in 2026 :(
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hobbit is still pretty good
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he fell off compared to online tho and is the most inconsistent player out of that trio by far
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I'm not saying that he's necessarily bad against top 10 teams I'm saying that he looks lost too often in important matches.
And his rating is slightly affected by low DPR
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Never said he should be kicked
It's just that sh1ro should work on it. And C9 like any other top team needs a psychologist because some players look too scared + don't blame only nafany in losses
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How exactly do you work on such a thing is my question, I find it people are simply made for it or they aren't. You won't adapt without more experience in big matches, some peoples nerves just get to them. Players like stavn never deliver in big / playoff matches for some reason, and broky for some reason always does in big games
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First, train more. Second as I already wrote is a psychologist which C9 doesn't have for some reason.
We have already seen that sh1ro can destroy top 5 teams I think he needs to work on himself a little more and then he will have enough confidence.
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Training also gives you confidence. And this confidence is transferred not only to your head but also to your hands.
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Yeah confidence from the fact that you hit every shot. Confidence of hitting 100 bots in less than 30 seconds and that your hand literally flying over mousepad without missing. Confidence in every pixel of your CSGO model.
All this will inevitably make you feel more confident. At least in terms of pure mechanics you will definitely get better in any matches even if you are nervous
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Yes AND THAT IS UNTIL you get into the server and the nerves start getting to you and you realise how big the match you may be playing is. Again playing bots helps, but does not convert with your actual nerves and how you will react when you get into the team enviornment and you have to thoroughly communicate and for sh1ro 2nd call and perform and hype your team up.
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No it will give you confidence on the server too. Because you will have more confidence in yourself since you will feel game better. And as you know muscle memory is less affected by nerves.
Our discussion is like:
"no, this will not give you confidence"
"no, this will give you confidence"
"no, this will not give you confidence"
"no, this will give you confidence"
Why not look at pro players statements then? s1mple for example always refers to trainings when asked about his confidence
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Well yes but if each player is different then according to your logic there was no need to argue with me at all. For some reason you claimed that sh1ro will not gain confidence from trainings
And again by your logic trainings won't help to achieve individual success in important matches. Then it turns out that a random silver who doesn’t care at all will play better in the major final than for example scared sh1ro
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You don't get my point at all, every actual match they play is training for it, but nothing is true training for a big match. The difference between sh1ro and a silver in that game is, sh1ro is obviously 10x better, smarter, decision making, more utility knowledge, has actual strats and more. Everyone has a base level and this is just a dumb point to argue. It will not improve you to a large margin which is noticable to the general public in big matches. Most of the time either you have it or don't, or you gain it after years
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Oh so apparently trainings affect your individual success in important matches
And because of trainings scared sh1ro will play 10x times better than scared silver
But from this we conclude that nothing is "true training" for an important match. Interesting kind of logic over there ngl
It is also interesting that this logic is easily extrapolated to for example exams. It turns out that you can't "truly prepare" for them because you will be nervous
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Done talking to you brother, you clearly don't comprehend my points and misconstrue them, no point in talking to a brick wall anymore. If it's so easy then why can't everyone do it. Your logic is flawed af and easy to say as a viewer, put yourself in the position and we'll see one day mate
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In my opinion not everyone can do this because success in important moments directly correlates with your usual game.
By analogy with exams. An excellent student has much more potential to prepare for the final exam than a poor student.
Although I do not accept your point of view, I respect it.
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I think he has the potential to get even better. You either agree with it or you don't that's all.
Broky is not that mentally great
Ofcourse he is superconfident usually because he still have 3 another superstars to carry the game and dominate everyone.
But when FaZe getting pressed by better teams like G2 or Heroic for example - he is barely showing up
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he performed well in playoffs and against teams like navi
he fucked it up vs Imperial at Antwerp and that was pretty much it in recent history. even at this EPL finals he wasnt as bad as it seems, he had a really bad inferno which was lost anyway and ruined his rating, other than that he played decent
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I agree, it wasnt his best performance ofc, but like you said this thread is a huge overreaction. C9 couldve definitely won that final considering how close some maps where and they won 1/8 pistols and didnt even convert that. Faze basically had a 6-0 start on every map lol. if that didnt happen then nobody would even talk about sh1ro "underperforming"
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Meh I'm bias ofc but I don't see C9 winning that, FaZe were just hitting some high, broky clutches, even some from rain, twistzz bit quiet but sick at the end, ropz also, dont need to say much good all round. Also their pistols, just an example of how good they always were and they just showed how they used to win pistols. It would probably be a closer series had they won more pistols but eh, still faze imo
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Faze were the better team that day and Im not saying C9 wouldve defo won but they couldve. and if they had then nobody would say anything bad about them but now I see people say that sh1ro is bad and that buster needs to be cut which is dumb
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Against MOUZ/Outsiders/Faze and that's only in pro league
Almost always NAVI (even though s1mple was in a very bad shape back then)
You can say this is a decent performance but I think it's quite poor for player like sh1ro. I believe he's able to become even better.
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if there was no language barrier him and ax1le wouldve been top2 under karrigans leadership
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Bro broky has been labelled one of the most passive awper for a long time
broky isnt exactly s1mple v2 going for aggressive maneuvers all the time
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broky is not passive, it's just that he doesn't take a lot of opening duels.
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which means he is passive ?:))
legit everyone in the community calls him a passive awper
even hltv made a article about awpers where they putted him in the passive category :)
btw can u explain to me what does it mean to be a passive awper?
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you have faze flair but you don't watch games?
you think sh1ro or jame will go through a molotove or smoke to get kill?
broky is very explosive awper and that's a different playstyle
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being explosive has nothing to with him being a passive awper
in general he is looking passive but yeah of course he always goes for explosive plays
the whole point is that is he going for opening frags? well obviously not, at least not most of the time
him and sh1ro are different players but there is similarity
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passive is not the right term though
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yes and no :)
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passive because he doesn't go for opening kill but in mid round and late round he can do very aggressive moves
so ig in a sense you are right
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right
i always called him hyper passive so...
1 bad Inferno and people cant stop the hate
At lwast hate for a map in fina
Zywoo kekw in quarters againts ence ajaj nuff
That's the problem with every team's biggest star.
s1mple has often gone missing in finals, Niko is a known "choker", zywoo also has often had bad performances in elimination games, device especially early in his career went missing in big matches and like you said sh1ro can also go missing in big matches. Maybe it's the pressure that comes from knowing you are the main star in the team and if you don't perform you are out from the tournament/you don't get the trophy and maybe that's why in for example current Faze roster where there are 4 good player who can all carry they are sharing the pressure more evenly and they can all more consistently perform in the biggest matches.
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+1 and don't forget that sometimes the teams don't even 'deserve' to be in finals because these players hard carried them
did you start watching 2 weeks ago?
hltv.org/stats/matches/92747/mouz-vs-clo..
elimination match btw
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