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Romania Jaggermeister 
Who should TSM buy between FaZe , Heroic and Astralis ? All three orgs are really struggling financially
2023-04-02 23:03
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#1
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United States McDonalds
liquid then disband
2023-04-02 23:03
EG
2023-04-02 23:04
#3
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United States KhanQu3st
Astralis won’t sell. I think FaZe is most likely.
2023-04-02 23:05
2 replies
#75
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United Arab Emirates Im_The_One
who would even buy astralis roster? its dead
2023-05-18 23:07
1 reply
Ikr why do people even keep astralis in ANY conversation they trash
2023-05-19 02:06
if you think TSM is struggling less than those 3 you are in delusion
2023-04-02 23:05
9 replies
bruh Heroic is literally bankrupt
2023-05-18 22:44
7 replies
#63
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United States 1Tuurtle
just got bought
2023-05-18 22:50
2 replies
sorry didn`t see the article thought it was about them trying to be bought not that they got sold
2023-05-18 22:52
1 reply
#76
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United Arab Emirates Im_The_One
both, first the first and then second they are in the process of being bought
2023-05-18 23:08
#65
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Korea xiwon
isn't heroic already like 99% confirmed sold?
2023-05-18 22:51
3 replies
#77
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United Arab Emirates Im_The_One
They are yes, the whole org for just under 5m euro
2023-05-18 23:08
2 replies
#101
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Fiji codein
to whom?
2023-05-19 17:23
1 reply
Rich dude from norway
2023-05-19 17:52
tsm can barely manage to stay in the LCS let alone buy a CS team
2023-05-19 01:06
#5
broky | 
Latvia Comzie
I mean if all prices would theororetically be the same I think without a doubt in mind everyone would take the same team
2023-04-02 23:06
12 replies
Astralis
2023-04-02 23:25
5 replies
Yeah just need to -BlameF +MistR first
2023-04-02 23:39
4 replies
Nt, bad bait. It's like saying -broky +torzi
2023-04-03 00:01
2 replies
0/8 -broky +XELLOW
2023-04-03 00:26
Astralis will never achieve anything with baitF
2023-05-19 01:57
nah keep blamef and device, get some entry and support, instead of staying on danish rooster, go for international one
2023-05-19 02:13
#78
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United Arab Emirates Im_The_One
heroic, the best #1 team atm
2023-05-18 23:09
5 replies
#86
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Israel RoyBenji
Nah Vit ez major
2023-05-18 23:35
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#88
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United Arab Emirates Im_The_One
heroic just better
2023-05-19 00:32
heroic top 20 team after cadian turns old and forgets how to call
2023-05-19 17:11
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#99
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United Arab Emirates Im_The_One
in 5 years and 8 major wins later cadian can just retire, stavn will be igl and they buy regali and win major nr 9,10 and 11 ez 11 majors for heroic
2023-05-19 17:16
1 reply
11 Pinnacle cup majors maybe
2023-05-19 17:22
#6
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Korea WJSN
TSM seems to be struggling financially aswell tho, don't think they can afford 5 buyouts
2023-04-02 23:06
3 replies
Aren’t they one of the only profitable orgs in esports? Even with the FTX fiasco
2023-04-02 23:16
2 replies
#45
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Korea WJSN
sportsbusinessjournal.com/Daily/Issues/2.. has also been pretty much confirmed by a lot of people around the LCS (LOL NA league) apparently they are trying to have their league players play for minimum salary or sell them off otherwise and more shit like that so it seems they're really on a super tight budget lately
2023-04-03 00:07
#7
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Scotland Ludax
Astralis is prob cheapest and easiest to fix so them, but they should only take devve, blame and gla1ve
2023-04-02 23:09
16 replies
Buzz isn't a problem, gla1ve's individual performance is
2023-04-02 23:11
10 replies
#17
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Sweden gNeJS
Blame is the problem
2023-04-02 23:17
2 replies
Care to elaborate?
2023-04-02 23:31
1 reply
#47
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Sweden gNeJS
Everytime i watch them he always sell his mates, hunt to deep on ecos etc. You can literally see that he cares more about his hltv ranking than winning the game some times. Having that mentality at the highest level just aint acceptable. And doing it with great team players like gla1ve, xyp, and Device is nothing but ignorant.
2023-04-03 00:12
#22
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Scotland Ludax
I dont watch any astralis games but I know 0.99 is a very acceptable rating for an igl
2023-04-02 23:21
6 replies
The rating is alright but it looks remarkably bad, and is noticably a problem in games.
2023-04-02 23:29
#50
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United States Gonginator
That's the problem - you don't watch Astralis games. Gla1ve has no excuse to not frag lol. The days of the "IGL excuse" are over. IGLs either frag consistently to make it a 5v5 match or they don't and their team will end up losing if any of their 2-3 star players have an off day.
2023-04-03 00:28
4 replies
#53
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Finland Khroni
This doesn't really apply The only statistically 'ok' IGLs are the ones that are currently AWPing spare electroNic who shouldn't be IGL in the first place and TabseN who shares the 'star rifler forced to IGL' story HooXi is absolute dead weight at 0.86 Karrigan puts up 0.95 nitr0 is on 0.91 apEX is at 0.93 Snappi is on 0.95 Dexter is at 0.92 And Aleksi is on 0.91 Gla1ve is at 0.99 he carries his weight compared to others The only exception is really mezii at 1.02 and what he makes up for in firepower he lacks in tactics
2023-04-03 00:48
2 replies
respect the papatronic
2023-04-03 00:58
1 reply
#56
s1n | 
Finland Khroni
I do as a rifler, not as an IGL
2023-04-03 02:05
#55
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Scotland Ludax
The best teams of the last couple years were NaVi, FaZe and G2 all of which had shit fragging igls at their peak The only exception I can take is Heroic with cadiaN but hes awper so doesn't count
2023-04-03 01:05
#19
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Afghanistan Pewpo
Why would you sign a garbage team when you can get faze that is an easy top1 team.
2023-04-02 23:18
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#20
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Scotland Ludax
Read my comment again pls
2023-04-02 23:19
How can you buy faze when you struggle financially?
2023-04-02 23:52
You make it sound like FaZe and Heroic need a fix which isn't the case at all. Yes Astralis might be the cheapest of the 3 options but will also be the worst of the 3 rosters even with some adjustments.
2023-04-02 23:42
Heroic is 100% cheaper, theyre buying the brand, not the skill and the Astralis brand is still more valuable
2023-04-03 00:36
#8
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Argentina cheapdeed
tsm broke af they gonna buy random mix ex-valorant pro that are grinding cs2
2023-04-02 23:08
#9
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Brazil Mandarjn
why would he buy this shit teams if they have money to build this roster s0mple zywoo m0nesy cadian shiro ez 3 majors on cs2
2023-04-02 23:09
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#12
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United Arab Emirates Im_The_One
-monesy -shiro +msl +jame 3 igls>1 igl
2023-04-02 23:13
Cadian AWPs in this team
2023-04-02 23:17
-padian +NiKo igl
2023-04-02 23:22
not sure if they have money to buy biggest names if they are close to bankruptcy
2023-05-18 23:05
paiN
2023-04-02 23:10
#13
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Brazil Segrinelas
I know it's impossible but if they could make, Karrigan-device-twistzz-ropz-blamef. would be so cool
2023-04-02 23:14
2 replies
blameF and ropz HEAVY role overlap
2023-04-02 23:27
1 reply
#37
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Brazil Segrinelas
oh true, maybe give ropz, twistzz role and twistzz takes rain role? idk
2023-04-02 23:46
TSM ceo here, we are struggling aswell, thats why we go for the next players: Regali es3tag refrezh Valde Niko (danish fat)
2023-04-02 23:17
2 replies
#27
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Europe dg6
man niko violation....
2023-04-02 23:26
DANISH FAT LMFAOOOOO
2023-04-03 02:15
Heroic already solved their problems
2023-04-02 23:18
2 replies
they only secured money to operate until summer
2023-04-02 23:26
1 reply
No they already were able to operate until summer, they needed money to keep going form there.
2023-04-02 23:29
They should invest their money in building a strong team with promising young t2 talents like deko, donk ...
2023-04-02 23:21
1 reply
#35
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United States 1Tuurtle
Probably won’t get Russian players
2023-04-02 23:44
100% faze
2023-04-02 23:22
Why would Astralis sell their team when they can sell their LEC spot?
2023-04-02 23:23
#36
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Finland AliSabid
FaZe probably would be the best solution if they rly are going bankrupt
2023-04-02 23:45
Aslong as reginald is gonna be in charge of TSM, they will be struggling financialy
2023-04-02 23:47
invest in dead game? or wait for cs2 talents
2023-04-02 23:49
Faze most likely. The org is in financial turmoil and in desperate need of liquidity, the contracts associated with the roster are relatively old so the buyouts would be fairly reasonable. Picking up the FaZe roster would also mean a spike in jersey sales and guaranteed sticker money, especially considering the new peak player counts that the game will reach around the CS2 major.
2023-04-02 23:53
2 replies
+1
2023-05-18 22:47
"the contracts associated with the roster are relatively old" Are they? Rain just resigned contract, ropz joined almost 1.5 year ago, karrigan/twistzz 2 years ago, broky's contract might expired soon, depends on for how long he signed it.
2023-05-18 23:09
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2023-04-02 23:53
Aurora
2023-04-03 00:09
1 reply
Borealis
2023-04-03 00:24
TSM doesn't have that much money, they literally said it gonna take longer because it will take more investment than others E-sports. They can afford to buy BNE or others teams like that.
2023-04-03 00:30
TSM definitely cant afford any of those teams. MAYBE heroic, and thats a hard maybe. TSM probably buys a lower level NA team like EG/EG Black, get an EU awper, and get an old NA player who switched to valorant to coach
2023-04-03 02:16
2 replies
#80
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United States 1Tuurtle
they said they wanted an EU roster
2023-05-18 23:10
1 reply
yes but realistically they cannot afford good EU team
2023-05-19 09:00
#62
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Algeria Zawwy
how faze is struggling? I thought they'll never have issues financially.
2023-05-18 22:48
1 reply
Why would u think that? Faze owner's being rich doesn't mean org itself has plenty of money.
2023-05-18 23:12
#64
RpK | 
France Snabe_
Just buy Looking4org
2023-05-18 22:50
#66
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Korea xiwon
tsm don't have any money either
2023-05-18 22:52
#68
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United States 1Tuurtle
given the runs at this major and TSM wanting to pay for partner spots I think we could see them snatching players from these upset teams. Siuhy from GL for IGL is the obvious choice, wouldn't rule out kyxsan though, probably wouldnt get Thomas or Woro Acor/Nawwk are both solid choices for awp, I'd go Nawwk personally Not sure about the rifler roles for any of these teams, but any 3 from Cypher/volt/Jl/Jkaem/iM/sdy/Boros could be good.
2023-05-18 22:52
IMPERIAL
2023-05-18 22:53
Astralis isn't struggling financially the way FaZe and Heroic are. twitter.com/tomi/status/1643087358034857..
2023-05-18 22:58
1 reply
this is interesting and also good news for cs overall
2023-05-18 23:29
#71
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United States KhanQu3st
TSM: +Frozen +Karrigan +BOROS +Nertz +w0nderful
2023-05-18 22:59
They've been looking for a CS team for what,2 years at this point?I doubt they are going to do anything tbh
2023-05-18 23:05
#74
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Kazakhstan Kazachstan
broky ropz bymas jl forsen
2023-05-18 23:06
#81
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Ukraine Patrizio
Cph flames prob XD All money for Farlig
2023-05-18 23:12
monte
2023-05-18 23:26
#85
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Australia jd4ddy
Twistzz and Karrigan returning to tsm? Don’t think so, after how they were treated they would never go back
2023-05-18 23:33
#87
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Israel RoyBenji
BNE
2023-05-18 23:35
Buy mythic
2023-05-19 01:00
IBUYPOWER returns, buys the FaZe roster for a comeback return in CS2.
2023-05-19 01:11
Faze because karrigan and twiztz are OG TSM members
2023-05-19 02:15
I think they should buy Heroic
2023-05-19 17:12
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