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Legit feels so fucking good
I wish valve just remade 1.6 instead of making csgo tbh
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the awp in 1.6 is worse than the awp in csgo but it feels better especially with the movemebnt
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AWP in CSGO is stronger, you can walk and shot crouch and shoot, walls are barely spammable so you can hold pixel angles without punishment.
Quick scope was a lot stronger but moving while shooting is a stronger mechanic.
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Wdym by moving and shooting ?
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if you have 1% movement speed with an awp in 1.6 your bullet will go into sky, in CSGO crab walking = 100% accuracy, standing and moving before you shoot normally is very accurate.
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I personally think crab walking gives a massive boost to awp especially when pushing angles.
I agree with crab walking it's on par with one ways which should never exist in competitive fps.
csgo awp is better because in 1.6 you can wallbang almost any wall and tag the awper very easily making him almost immobile + taking dmg
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Are we talking about rifles or awp here?
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If the discussion were something like "hey, you can 1 body shot with awp", you would be right. If the discussion were something like "hey, you can kill people with the awp, pay some dollars and don't be prey for the enemy", you would not be right since its a feature coming with all the guns. That is his point. Crouch peeking isn't something crazy in close to mid-range if you aren't on a lower level. Just useful for long range detailed angle check for pro play
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ak-47 yes , any other weapon against helmet = no , go educate yourself.
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Why you mention rifles? He's right with everything he wrote
And? In 1.6 there were no good smokes, no mollies, even to throw decent impactful flashes was hard so you didnt need not worry about any of that in 1.6 as an awper. Crab walking is the only advantage awping in cs go over 1.6 has.
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Flashes were much stronger tho in 1.6
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*presses TAB for sunglasses*
😎
You never did that, stop capping
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its not even hard to quickscope long from goose in 1.6
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+1 thats what im saying
awp in csgo > awp in 1.6 in terms of power but in terms of how they play and the skill cealing the 1.6 AWP >>>>>>>>>>>> csgo
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You forgot about doubleduck... that shit was op
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wtf old man
boomer
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nice stolen account
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Wtf were u doing here back in 2006?:)))))
I was legitimately 2 :)))))
It was probably just you and the hltv owner :)
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Hey I rarely get to ask this from someone who was actually there but what was your favorite dinosaur?
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people would just abuse noscope with tiny dot on their screen online for quickscopes no fucking thank you
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It's not hard to know where your crosshair is no offence.
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thats like saying a player that rifles with no crosshair is the same as a player using a crosshair
no offense
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mate, it's not hard to know where the middle of your screen is, never needed a dot on the screen for reference when quiick scoping and im not fucking elite talent savant.
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brother ive watched my friend play matches with a dot on his screen back then and when it came to lan he sucked ass, people will do anything to cheat u show know that by now
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Because he used a dot on his screen and relied on it aka lazy.
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or we can just go valulrante and add dot for snipers already, might as well
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I wouldn't say a million, I'd say 5-10% boost depending on the user.
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old engine old movement
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old times old times- that noscope still legend XD
youtu.be/Wx5tN3KfOZE?t=22
AN AWP you can flick youre abv slow and bad
It was much harder than cs go .
nah it feels so shitty cuz the hitboxes, models, and more things are just trash simply
if you think that 1.6 is actually good in 2023 then u are blinded by nostalgia, csgo is clearly superior, and cs2 will be even better
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I thought you were delusional…
or you simply dont compare 2 vastly different Games
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they are the same franchise but have different engines
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just the fact that u prefer frogman over 1337 man tells enough about u and ur inferior opinions.
u need to setup your rates, ex_interp, play on low ping servers etc. then its very smooth with good hitboxes and it doesnt feel slow and baad like in csgo.
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what bugs ? playing to this day fastcup, public and never experienced any bugs, u need to setup your game and play on good servers. and if any bug is there, it is not much a deal to be honest.
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CS 1.6 has a over 10 years old hitbox bug that when you strafe and then stop the hitbox gets misaligned. It fixes itself if you the player rotates a little or gets hit by guns causing knockback e.g rifles. youtube.com/watch?v=dpwUMY1fGEs
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I 17 bro
it was harder back then
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+1!
Dudes who started with CSGO in 2017 don't understand the AWP isn't "supposed to have a role" or "is meant to be used in x way".
It's a tool and you find your style and how to utilize the tool for your team. That's why there are so many more awping styles and shooting styles in general in 1.6 than CSGO.
If there was more tagging and wallbanging in CSGO I think the old AWP could make it's way in no problem. But newbs wouldn't like it. And Valve caters to noobs. So yeah
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Neither was 1.6 though
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CS1.6 was never intended for competitive play, but it certainly worked for competitive play obviously.
Expected from NPC though.
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Amazing way to make your self look like a fool or should I say NPC.
I guess when 1.6 introduced the riot shield that banger of an update to make the game more competitive.
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Riot shield was added in 1.6 are you skipping around that? how'd that go for competitive play?
You were never there, the only reason why CS turned into a eSport was because of the community, CSGO was the first version that made updates for competitive play.
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News flash bro, Counter-Strike was never meant to be a competitive game. In fact, a lot of updates between 1.0 and 1.6 are seen as making the game more casual by a lot of people.
The creator says as much. You don't know what you're talking about.
reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1dkeht/commen..
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Thanks for that, I guess I'm lucky that an NPC is responding to me.
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Complete nonsense you’re as clueless as the other guy. 😂😂😂
CS was always designed to be a competitive game what else, noob? Single player? Story? Hahahahahahahaha
The people on this side, absolutely lost and clueless
The creator can say a lot of things what mattered is what the game in the end was - the best competitive game of all time. You’re extremely clueless and NPC like. Try to think for yourself for a second, maybe a huge challenge for you I guess.
Go and ask some experts if they agree with you, literally no one will. Even today it’s a great game to play for competition. It’s still easily top 5
Little bugger here thinks what the games original intent and what the game in the end was doesn’t matter. You’re just a NPC who repeats things he never understood. Go and ask the creator then if CS 1.6 was competitive or not, he will say yes. He didn’t answer that question. Go and ask pro gamers and experts. Nobody will agree with you, bot.
“PurePwnageFan2013” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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You didn't "design" a game to be competitive. That never existed. That's not how older games were designed. Literally none of them. At best it was taken into consideration, and that usually resulted in a worse game (like Quake 1 and 2 vs Quake 3).
CS being competitive is due to the community. A ton of things we like in the game are purely by accident and not an original design.
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Lol so every game ever with multiplayer is competitive apparently. Nice opinion lmao.
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The first time Valve seriously took pros advice in updating the game was in CSGO.
The only patch that 1.6 recieved was a flag bug, the second update was when CSGO came out and they fucked with the netcode and feel of the recoil.
I never said 1.6 wasn't a competitive game it was hugely competitive thanks to the community.
Not once have Valve sat down with pros with asked what they should do with the franchise during 1.6, if they did CS Source would have never existed.
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Proof that they took pros advice during 1.6?
Proof? Source? Ah, never happened, k thx bye
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That's what I thought.
GG EZ
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Yep, easy clapped you couldn't prove your own argument, when I asked for proof - you played the childish deflection card and said "no I dont want to do it buuuhhuhuuhhhwwww" like a small kid and attacked me
and btw its common knowledge the game was perfected alongside the community. Doubting CS 1.6 just proves that youre a noob
Someone your age wouldn't use emojis.
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if it is big yikes
Back in my days.... One of the quals we played... I did this...
youtu.be/g39eHSZXTxU
it was much better than current go
Playing with AWP in 1.6 was a pure pleasure with all the movement tricks that you can do and zero randomshit like csgo quickscopes, which has a possibility to land a shot in like 40%?
Of course such AWP would be OP in csgo, because the movement of the game is dull. You can literally only shoulder-peek/long-strafe/crouch and can never wallbang you if you just hold a pixel. In 1.6 AWP was way more versatile but it was easier for your enemies to push you for a missed shot.
Try playing the awp in cs source. 100% acc jump peaks were insane. Top it all of with deagle secondary which was shooting like a laser and you are unstopable.
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Maybe I worded it wrong. What I meant was when you jump peak a corner, as soon as your player model touches the ground you become 100% accurate. There is no cooldown or a period of innacurucy like there is in csgo when the scope is blury.
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That's how it is in 1.6 too though. Tbh that "accuracy cool down" is the most annoying thing in csgo
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1-tapping someone with the AK and watching the body fly behind was something of a guilty pleasure that even Source 2 ragdolls can't match.
csgo is way too utility reliant
its so boring
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Yep, glad that cs2 has the smoke clear, it not a lot but at least it removes grey screen.
Only 1.6 players know this, though. ^^
Those who didn't play the original before GO will never understand.
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Ofc Awp is better on 1.6, is way more OP, the movement is faster, quick scope is total accurate, smokes are transparent, ofc it will feel better.
SIT DOWN KIDS
youtube.com/watch?v=j_mONJtSbBk
peak CS.
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1.6 needs some love.
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but its still very bad compare to cs 1.6, i played it and still all aspect of the game doesnt feel good as in 1.6 movement, guns, no begrip, no good wallbang, maybe in future.
The only thing 1.6 has on GO at this point is better movement
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guns feels very good in 1.6 taps, burst, recoil everything feels smooth better than csgo where all the skills u need with guns is to crouch and spray :D, playing behind smokes, camp corners and all of that with movement that require 0 skill.
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why pro, i am casual lvl 9 faceit player, global why should i care about some pro matches ? its about the game, and pro games are all random these days because it highly depends on good timings, camping etc. not like individual skills with guns.
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1700 matches, 1.47 KD
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i am casual player playing 4fun, not trying to go pro or semi pro or whatever i am not 18 years old so.. no time and motivation for grinding game that will not give me anything besides fun, but still playing it casualy for 8 years, i like this game but still worse compare to 1.6. yes everyone with 0.6 KD is better, image thinking you are supergood player because you cant get kills :D this game is about killing u know :) hard teamplay is for teams and pro teams, not casualy pug players. and again if u rely heavily on team u must be bad in the game cuz u cant get kills :D
People in here claim that awp was more difficult in 1.6. I don't see how awp was ever more difficult in 1.6.
OK in 1.3 it was easier than 1.6.
OK in 1.0 it was even more easy, basically quake with instagib
You could literally stop on a dime in 1.6, all you'd have to do was counter-move for 1ms and you'd be 100% accurate with your quickscope. You could even do it mid-air, land and instantly take the shot, no fucking problem. And then you'd just hold your mouse1 and spam accurate noscopes at the direction of your enemy - or your idea of where they were with precise bullets through 5 metre thick walls and still do tremendous amounts of damage. Awp in 1.6 was fucking op, honest to god. Reason why markeloff was #1 cause those frags sure werent flashy, just too easy.
No the real mvps were the likes of gtr and trace. They mangled people with rifles and they were insanely mechanically skilled.
The awp has never been nerfed as much as it is now, thank god, and Im saying this as an awp player since forever.
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No it isn't false, if you move with awp 99% chance you miss unless you are in their face and that 1% is pure rng, yes absolutely you can stop on a dime, but you can't start running as your shooting like you can in CSGO, you also cannot crouch while moving and be accurate and scope + crouch 1.6 was much slower than CSGO.
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did u ever play 1.6 ? its bullshit what u said.
Wrong.
You're the one who sounds like never played 1.6.
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People who say AWPing was easier in 1.6 have no clue what they are talking about.
1) If you check the stats from pro play you will see that 12% of kills in csgo are AWP kills meanwhile in 1.6 its only 7,7%. AWP was basically useless on T side inferno and nuke.
hltv.org/stats vs hltv.org/legacystats
2) less lose bonus in 1.6 so you need to play two ecos after lost pistol to afford AWP+kevlar
3) paper walls wouldn't allow you to abuse pixel angles
4) noscope (not quickscope) was totally random
5) models in cs1.6 are much smaller than in csgo
6) movement was actually decent in 1.6, i would say it was more "Jumpy" and it was very easy to kill unskilled AWPer by simply moving left-right and shortening distance.
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+1 Awping in 1.6 was way harder than in GO for sure
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I think an easy balancer would simple to make the walls more spammable in CSGO, maybe not to how they were in 1.6 but at least a viable option.
It is/was very nice
was the best
CS 1.6 skill gap was way bigger because of all of the movement you could master and everything was a bit harder and less quality of life tools included in the game. 1.6 mechanics with source 2 graphics would make the best competitive game ever but I think CS2 will be decent enough. CS:GO wasnt that bad. Way better than shitty CSS was. At least they improved there.
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I can't hit anything with the awp in 1.6 since you don't know when you're inaccurate
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Flicks are the same, the models are just a bit smaller and you cannot move at all Zero speed while taking a shot.
awp + crosshair 0 was imba before they fixed it
The AWP was much more difficult in 1.6. You actually had to specialize to become good with it. In CS:GO the AWP feels so easy, it's what you buy when you need a crutch
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Lol, No xD
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"Signed up 2019-03-18"
Sorry, your opinion is of no relevance
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what does my HLTV signup to do with anything? xD
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You haven't experienced both games at a competitive level, which makes your opinion insubstantial
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And you can say that, from only this accounts registration date? holy moly
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What information have you provided to the contrary? "Lol, No xD"
15 years old tops
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im 26,
i dont have much hours in 1.6, but i have enough
Csgo>
You needed skill to play AWP on 1.6.
Kids nowadays just depends on noscope lucky shi/crab walking and hit and run like a pussy.
i haven't tried the AWP in 1.6 but i really enjoyed the AWP when i tried out source a while back
yes, 1.6 is the ultimate CS experience
Funny, everyone was a "God in 1.6"
I know sometimes I think I was, in regards to utility and tactics etc it was such a basic game.
The shooting mechanics felt amazing though.
pls no
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