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launders slams EG
Czech Republic cappy1998 
2023-04-13 10:08
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even NA casters are calling out EG's decisions
2023-04-13 10:11
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Hungary kushh_
hext "na talent" xddddddddd
2023-04-13 10:13
I like how EG try to reply to him like they got the Heroic Refresh and not the Refresh that has been pretty much out of tier 1 since heroic. what a garbage org everyone in it is just full clown shoes
2023-04-13 10:14
15 replies
To be fair it's not that long ago he played for Heroic
2023-04-13 10:26
13 replies
It's long enough better places have become worse in a shorter amount of time and he has definitely dropped off hard from his time in Heroic's peak but then again this is the org that picked up Stewie2k so it's not like they even know what they're doing anyway.
2023-04-13 10:30
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Come on Stew wasn't even that bad in his final moments. At the very least people expected him to do SOMETHING in at least the NA region. Who knew he would put 0.70 rating against tier 3 NA teams.
2023-04-13 17:22
hes been literally bottomfragging in tier3 playing for sprout
2023-04-13 10:34
10 replies
while taking on a new role as the IGL
2023-04-13 10:36
8 replies
shit excuse
2023-04-13 10:40
7 replies
Is it though?
2023-04-13 10:43
6 replies
going from heroic to tier3 and playing at 0.85 rating isnt a "igl" issue
2023-04-13 10:45
5 replies
How would you know?
2023-04-13 10:51
1 reply
cuz ive seen the games
2023-04-13 10:56
when he has literal speech issues? I think it is rofl
2023-04-13 17:39
#47
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United States Dug
but he was the igl that got sprout to the legends stage of the major.
2023-04-14 02:34
1 reply
where they went 1-3 lol rmr they went 19-17 vs forze, 16-12 vs spirit and barely beat b8, the only "decent" achievement was close game vs faze. and right after the major they went down even worse failing a couple more tournaments on top of that regardless of becoming an igl he still maintained somewhat of a decent rating up until november, so like a solid 3 months. but since then until getting benched he just tanked in performance and was permanently in lowtab lmao you are either delusional or just purposefully ignoring the reality
2023-04-14 03:12
Give the black man some time
2023-04-13 10:38
#39
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United States flipfone
I am getting the impression that Vorborg bias towards Denmark is the reason they signed him, maybe, maybe not
2023-04-14 02:10
s1mple knows what hes talking about when he says these casters are braindead keep that in mind
2023-04-13 10:47
8 replies
he is not only caster, he is apparently "renowned expert" too xd
2023-04-13 11:20
2 replies
yeah that made lol
2023-04-14 03:46
Yeah that is a bit cringe but he does have like a 1000 videos analyzing the pro scene and has been a team manager before
2023-04-14 08:36
Launders is one of the smart ones imo
2023-04-13 17:22
#44
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Egypt BomberMan_
s1mple is the definition of 'shut up and dribble' in csgo. Outside his crazy flicks and commentary about the tactics and playstyles or something this dude doesnt have much to offer.
2023-04-14 02:27
1 reply
lmfao
2023-04-14 03:19
simping for eg of all orgs XD
2023-04-14 03:48
s1mple never said anything about launder what are u smoking
2023-04-14 04:13
Refrezh a t1 quality pro or an NA prospect…
2023-04-13 10:51
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Austria mo_bamba
name one good na player without team
2023-04-13 10:57
7 replies
Stewie2K :)
2023-04-13 10:58
1 reply
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Austria mo_bamba
in 2017 yes
2023-04-13 10:58
Swisher is looking for org
2023-04-14 02:11
#41
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United States burNout_
oBo, Jonji, motm, JazzPimp, stanislaw (lol),
2023-04-14 02:22
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#45
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Italy Karimk03
He said good player.
2023-04-14 02:29
oBo isn't coming back
2023-04-14 03:37
1 reply
and he was bad at the end with eg. So, ppl are nostalgic.
2023-04-14 04:12
"EG would have more fans with a full NA lineup and win just as much." - launders Just as little he meant lmao. Also refrezh is a great player but he wont fix EGs problems. Imo launders is a bit delusional here, which NA players should EG pick? Some fresh NA players who mostly played NA t2 tournies? EG has all those partner slots with blast and esl, the new roster would just get slaughtered both in game and the media. Imo EG has to sell the partner slot for blast at least (to c9 at best) and build a new lineup around autimatic (if they want to have NA players there)
2023-04-13 11:01
4 replies
Building around autimatic would be the right way to do it yes
2023-04-13 11:10
3 replies
he seems like the only player they should keep from the current lineup but his stats are awful as well lately... thats propably due to EG losing every game so hard
2023-04-13 11:15
2 replies
agree
2023-04-13 12:29
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United States 1Tuurtle
he was like the 9th or 10th highest rated player at the AME RMR, leagues above the rest of his team (he had a 1.19 rating, wiz was second on EG with 1.07, the next player I think have sub 1.0) so I'd say it's cause they just lose so much
2023-04-14 04:08
I agree with Launders on this one. Although I don't even think refrezh is an "above average" player. If you want to get an EU player, just buy someone better.
2023-04-13 11:29
the biggest problem i thought was wiz, guy was never better than 1.10 in NA AT BEST... they needed a real awper, maybe some cis talent, but now they can't lose one more NA player or they lose the core, it's a weird situation
2023-04-13 11:33
1 reply
They could bring up junior from their second team
2023-04-13 17:34
They have all the money but decided to flush it down the toilet for a pointless 15-man roster while the main team perform like shite. EG should rebuild it's management 1st before rebuilding the players, seriously. It's their fault for having such a bad rep that NAF rejected their offer and opened their can of worms behind the scenes
2023-04-13 12:39
2 replies
Who should they sign?
2023-04-13 17:11
1 reply
Easiest option would be screen the current 15 men and find which ones have the discipline and hunger to play in T1 tournaments imo, but idk if some of them have the motivation to do it anymore (except maybe EG Black) since they're basically getting paychecks for losing
2023-04-14 02:00
Good. Sad to see that EG black is better than EG now trash decision to get a mediocre rifler
2023-04-13 17:39
9 replies
EG Black would lose to EG still
2023-04-13 17:56
8 replies
I have more faith in Jorge to actually get frags compaired to that shit EG roster
2023-04-13 17:57
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United States 1Tuurtle
bro EG lost to a tier 3 NA mixteam playing ESEA advanced. EG Black is a top 5 team in tier 2 NA. they are far and away a better team
2023-04-14 04:10
6 replies
The main team is not THAT bad
2023-04-14 10:59
5 replies
#71
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United States 1Tuurtle
hltv.org/matches/2363670/evil-geniuses-v.. WITHOUT WARNING was formed less than a month ago and is currently competing in ESEA Advanced. they beat EG 16-8
2023-04-14 15:02
4 replies
it's one map
2023-04-14 15:15
3 replies
#73
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United States 1Tuurtle
That would be a fair argument if they played a close game and lost to an ecl team. This is an ESEA ADVANCED TEAM. And it WAS NOT CLOSE EG black would not have lost this
2023-04-14 15:48
2 replies
That’s just an assumption
2023-04-14 22:23
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United States 1Tuurtle
EG Black just got 3rd in ecl. They beat furia and played a close game against imperial. EG lost to Paquetá, team one, yur (a mix team with no practice), Illuminar, and now without warning. EG black has beaten the core of without warning every time they’ve faced each other. I can say with confidence that EG black would not have lost that match
2023-04-14 23:37
#37
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United States zovint
Sadly he just doesn’t understand us, EG. We just know something he doesn’t know.
2023-04-13 17:59
Why is it so hard for eg to just prompt Junior and Jorge to the main roster and take out trash wiz and washed up brezhe.
2023-04-14 03:21
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Germany Tharanos
+1 This! It would be to easy i guess xD I dont see a real concept their. Bringing in Nealan was a good move, cause he is a good igl. But i dont get the addition from Refresh. EU Players have different mindset and charakters than NA players. The need a real concept what they want to do. It is also a shame that the EU players can stay in eu (ping?). How can you build a good team with that? You need a mix of experienced players and young talented players. Just experienced players maybe dont have the aim anymore and young players dont have the experience to compete at a high level.
2023-04-14 09:16
There are plenty of other players with similar "skillset" refrezh in NA and EU. The only reason refrezh was picked is to fill EG diversity quota for more ESG funding, classic Chicago "investment" style
2023-04-14 03:25
1 reply
oy gevalt!!!
2023-04-14 03:38
#52
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United States Gonginator
While I think launders' comments are a bit of a stretch, he's not entirely wrong. EG have the money and other resources need to buy better players. So since they're going to import EU players, they may as well just buy people out to build a "legit" roster lol. The fact that they keep wasting money on average players and have more than 5 players is a joke. Also, their management doesn't own up to a damn thing. All they do is come up with excuses on why they're losing. Their coach says that their "data and other information" shows that they needed a specific skillset - which is their deficit - and is something they could not find in NA. I call bullshit. If you actually tried, you'd know that there is a decent talent pool in NA's Tier 2 scene and still a few older Tier 1 players who may not have the fragging power that they used to, but still have the experience and brains. The Tier 2 players can make up for the lack of talent needed from their Tier 1 players if anything. If EG's data is a justifiable expense for them like they claim it is, then how come they haven't picked up any good players yet and have been losing every event they've played in? I don't see that data collection paying off for them at all. Wtf are valens and vorborg doing for them aside from getting paid to help the org's CSGO team lose most of their matches and not even have respectable placements at any events? Who is approving all of this ongoing BS?
2023-04-14 03:29
slams
2023-04-14 03:36
wow , ive never seen lau this mad , even tho i think he is right about it
2023-04-14 04:04
1 reply
Yeah he really went for it
2023-04-14 08:23
Cant wait for the Refrezh 1v5 vs Liquid, EG Edition.
2023-04-14 04:14
I believe that refrezh is the wrong pick for a team like EG. A man with the name "stewie2k" could be the perfect fit for the North American organization.
2023-04-14 08:27
What is EG Black?
2023-04-14 08:36
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#74
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United States 1Tuurtle
EG academy (they’re better than the main team)
2023-04-14 15:48
1 reply
Thank you!
2023-04-14 21:02
Launders should help a homie out
2023-04-14 08:52
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