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You can find some good wireless mices for less than 60-70€. For example the MM712 , you just have to search a bit.
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“In this game it will feel sharp only when it wants to.“
Completely untrue in my experience. I was using some wired rog mouse and after switching to the superlight I felt the difference immediately.
There are some mouses atm on the market that are just a level above the others, superlight being one of them, and they feel immensely better in cs and in any other game
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Bro in my experience it doesn't matter whether it is borrowed from my friend superlight or a shit office mouse from trash can. This game is simply bad. Of course there would be a bit of a difference in games like Doom. But in Cs it is really just like what I said. Game engine is outdated so no wonders its that bad. I have full 400 locked fps. It means it should be super smooth. But no this game is not. Even on faceit when it's anubis servers couldn't handle it and sv was easily spiking to 50ms (basically unplayable). I remember that game where no one could play due to how bad was the input handling.
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I don't even get micro stutters anymore, I get macro stutters. Game went to shit. A friend with 11th gen intel CPU and rtx 3060 had issues with performance like wtf. Hope CS2 fixes all of this
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I had shit mouse for 3 years straight. No skips no bad wheel. I played Doom and Quake using it. Nothing alike was present. Only in a shitty game(csgo) you have lags. Even on a better mouse it doesn't matter for this game. 1 day your sens can float and another day it will be perfectly sharp
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Really? For something that lasts for years?
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Yeah but my point is that 60 is nothing if it lasts for years. If you needed one every month I would understand. You'd save more money over 2 years if you switched to an off-brand ketchup or something lol.
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I wish my mice lasted for years... :(
why would I spend 60€ in a useless feature ? explain plz
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??? what do you mean
No, its outdated, i use a G305 since 2019.
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Cheap and works, better than all mouses at same price.
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its 80g
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no, i think its more like 100g with battery, still ok for me.
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Why worst?
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Mine been abused for more than 3 years already so is quite durable.
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Shape, my favorite shapes are not available in wireless yet.(I own 40 mice)
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I know it's terrible :D
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I like the S2, Outset AX and GPX, GPX is currently on table the most. relaxed claw.
ive been using my ec1-a for about 6 or 7 years i think. still works fine.
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Had this mouse for like 4 or 5 years, decent mouse but you'll be surprised how good not only wireless mice are but also super light, also the shape of ec1-a is kinda gay now that I've tried others.
a friend of mine has used ec2-a since 2016 and it's starting to give up sometimes but he won't be giving up on that mouse, I'd like to get him a new one for his birthday, I have no clue which mouse to get him
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Yeah, I will switch to wireless when my zowie breaks. I've seen many comments that the Logitech g pro superlight (?) is pretty good but it's expensive.
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there is wireless zowie now
zowie.benq.com/en-us/mouse/ec1-cw.html
i see no difference between paracord and wireless ingame so i go with wired
If I decide to buy a new mouse I would buy wireless but I've been using Zowie EC2-A for six years and it's still good. No need to spend money.
cause i have a mouse bungee and it feels the same as a wireless one + don't have to charge it every few days which gets annoying after a while
+ you save like 50-80€ from it being wired
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good for you man
anyways it's rated at 70h which means it's less than that, so if you leave pc on/game a lot you still have to charge it every few days
bro literally just charge it for like 1h every night or gaming pause and you'll never run out, battery here is not the issue kek
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or i can save on money, not have to deal with that shit, and have a perfectly identical mouse since wireless doesn't provide any benefit because it's a mouse and you're gonna be using it at the same place any time you use it
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Idk man I noticed a huge change when it comes to accessibility and range of motion, I'm probably never going back to wired, if you don't want to don't lol no one is telling you to
I go for wired cause for some reason I always (maybe subconciously) felt like wireless has more delay
I have trust issues
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wired cuz ec2 goated
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could you believe that longevity? best mouse ever, damn
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why would i use a wireless mouse if theres mouse bungies existing ? why would i want to plug it in all the time to charge it lol
only thing that needs to be wireless is headset
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"all the time" bro I have wireless mouse and I can use it for a week+ hard playing cs and still have battery left
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ok fair enough but still i dont even feel the wire on my mouse because of mouse bungee so 0% need for wireless
why would i use a wireless HEADSET if theres HEADSET bungies existing ? why would i want to plug it in all the time to charge it lol
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because my pc is on the ground and the cable not long enough to do it all over the table also if it was it would hang around above my keyboard or mouse you brainded or what
I will get maybe one when mine is broken but actually a mouse without cable is not really worth it if it costs more. You even need a cable to load it lol and my mouse is all day on the table, so why should it be wireless? I have the Razer Wireless Keyboard but it's always on the cable because it doesn't matter. For what should it be wireless?
I have a wireless mouse but there's more good options wired if you don't happen to like any of the wireless ones. I would only use wireless when the battery life is good enough like in this case Logitech gives like 150 hrs of active use, no problem with having to recharge too often. I also have wireless keyboard G915 TKL paired the kb + mouse with the same wireless dongle.
I use wired because im a boomer
maybe in brazil
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ok venezuela 2.0
ok texas flag 😂
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Cope
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Me very well
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Why the fact that you are poor translate into me living a shit life like a lot of people on latam men?
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XD baited
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affordable ones are heavy
light ones are expensive
"plug" and play
I use a viper mini, the reason I haven't switched to a wireless one is that I'd need to spend a LOT to get a similar sized mouse that is wireless. I have tried using a friends super light/viper ultimate v2 and they aren't quite as small. The only mice I could really get would be a starlight mini, or something in that price class, which is like 150$ more than my viper mini.
yes wired im using a deathadder, its not a great mouse the side cushion stickers already fell off but i dont really think a new mouse would make me game better so im not buying one
i did buy the logitech pop mouse for my laptop and its the greatest travel mouse ever! its so quiet small and convenient!
I'm using a wireless one, DA V3 Pro.
Before that I used Zowie EC2-C, and before that it was GPX Superlight. I thought I'd never go back to wired but the EC2-C shape was just way too good. Now that I have DA V3 Pro I get the best of both worlds, great wireless performance + insane shape, rly similar to EC2 just slightly bigger.
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not in 2023 mate. 2016 and before yes. actually better latency on wireless mice these days, especially with g pro superlight and da v3 pro.
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it is irrational, it has been proved that wireless mouse have some kind of delay but its so small u cant actually notice.
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If you use shitty BlueTooth you will have these issues.
There are different wireless technologies you know, in this case you gotta spend more to get better results that just is the case. Also these wireless gaming mice people talk about don't even use batteries lol.
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Thought u meant mice like orochi v2 or g305 where u need to change batteries every now and then, instead of simply charging the mouse with USB-C.
Maybe try a wireless product that doesn't use shitty bluetooth. If you buy logitech or razer there will be less delay than wired mice. Wired will never be an issue and is reliable, but wireless is the future whether you like it or not.
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I built a habit of avoiding technology when I am out walking the dog (which I do a lot), most often leaving my phone back home. IMO, not enough people take a conscious break from their phones. I guess it's like getting rid of an addiction, if you are used to being within 1m of your phone 24/7, but I think people should try it.
Anyway, my point is that I save myself from buying earbuds.
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Cheap mouse with low latency and with good shape
Only wired ones are possible.
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#65 same for me except now i'm using da v3 pro. it's expensive but worth it.
the shape on ec2 is just too goated and as you said ec2-c cable doesn't even feel wired with a bungee. gpx is super overrated but of course this is because it's such a safe shape and works for anyone, so it's never gonna be the perfect mouse for an individual.
Ye I have a logitech g pro superlight and it is so good definitely worth the money for me. Previously had a razer deathadder mouse and it was good and with a bungee it was no problem at all but still worth getting rid of cables if you have good money situation.
I use G Pro Superlight. Only switch I'd consider making is going back to something liek Razer V2 Pro (previously had Razzer Viper Ultimate)
Have wireless mouse, keyboard and headset. No need for a wire these days and the freedom it gives you (particularly with the headset) is amazing.
The ONLY downside to wireless between those 3 peripherals is slightly worse mic quality on the headset, but I can live with that lol.
love my fk2, won't go wireless for a while
Why would I want a wireless one instead of a wired one? I never have cable problems like some people who manage to get a perfectly fine cable tangled up by just touching it.
Wired still seems more trustworthy to me than anything wireless.
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why did u switch back? Planning to buy a wireless one, so would like to know
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went wireless a few months back. Fucking love it, whent all out with the gpro superlight. Used to love heavy moce but this is heaven. Every shot i miss i can only blame my self...
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Because whether true or not, wired connection > wireless. I also have my computer on all day while I work and then night while I game, so I don't want to waste my time charging or changing batteries. Plus the wire doesn't get caught on anything and it goes behind my desk so it's out of sight. No downsides to wired mice.
i've never tried wireless, but i just don't see the appeal, i've used the same wired mouse for years, buying replacements of the same one any time i had faults.
concerned about battery life and connectivity issues of wireless and the cable has never caused me any issues or bother
tried wireless glorious model O after using model O, figured out I needed a heavier mouse, got wired Razer Deathadder Essential and been using it for about 6 months minimum
probably going to get a deathadder v2 wireless when i have the money because the cable has been annoying lately, but its still somewhat heavy
Wires have never been a problem when it comes to mice. Currently using EC3-C as i have small hands and it fits me perfectly. There are no real benefits to use a wireless mouse if a wire has never been an issue to you. If you find yourself in some way handicapped because of a wire then a wireless option might be worth considering. Other than that, you’ll just be paying a lot more for a product that tries to fix a problem which for most people doesn’t exist. Better save it and spend it towards something else
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proud wired mouse user here
I tried logitech superlight didn't like it, then change it to razer DV3 pro amazing mouse, now I want to try the new zowie CW but can't buy it from Argentina, dumb country
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g pro charging approx. ~30mins to 100% whats the problem
Deathadder essential; just everything you need.
I just love the shape, and will probably take a wireless version.
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Honestly I love those two buttons; you can bin them and could be useful; I use them for throwing utility
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Oh yeah, sometimes it could be very frustrating
my 8-9 years old Logitech g402 HF is perfectly fine
I'm so used to it, dont feel like I ever get rid of it
2023 and still no wireless Zowie mice ;(
Wireless headset -> yes
Wireless mouse -> nty
went from Zowie to G Pro wireless when that first came out got the double clicking deal a few months into using it, i dont like the small thumb buttons on the side i like how Zowie's feel, bought another Zowie went with the new ZOWIE S2-C with para cord. i have no issue with cables. wired feel nice but its the stupid issues like the double click and charging and possible random connection issues that make wireless annoying. and i haven't found one that can compete with Zowie feel and buttons and scroll wheel.
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I just don't need more than wired g102
waiting until wireless viper mini releases (that isnt $300)
I have a Razer Viper Mini payed €30 and it's great, if I will upgrade it I will buy a Logitech G Pro X Superlight for sure
if you have a table where you can route the cable then it's the same shit.
if you have a bungee then cable is never an issue.
I do not want to bother with charging the mouse, I'll never move it from my PC so there's no reason.
I say that as a wireless headset user, just makes no sense for mouse unless you are traveling or on a laptop. I get that some crammed setups may be better with wireless but it's more of a useless "upgrade" than anything else, at least in my eyes.
I made my own spider because I've made my own desk as well, I've never ever noticed a cable.
I am using a steelseries rival 110 since 2016 and I think his time has come to change. looking for a wireless mouse 70 bucksish.
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Vaxee XE wireless pretty similar.
eloshapes.com/index.html?mouse=Zowie%20F..
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I went from logitech g305 to zowie s2. I dont even use a bungee but it doesnt feel like i have a wire
weight. Wireless will never be as light as wired mouses and I just don't wanna think about charging any other device. I Still use wired headphones for the same reason, I have some wireless ones for travel and calls and shit, but if I'm using my headphones/mouse on my pc all day why even bother with wireless anyway?
only poor people use wires
If you have a bungee or something to keep the wire fairly stationed, it's no problem. I just really love the shape of the Logi G Pro, pretty close to the FK2
Price + Hassle (You have to change battery/charge via wire anyway)
A decent wirless is 50$+ whilst I got my Deathadder V2 Mini for around 25$ (It's usually more expensive but still there are good 25$ options like G102). I have enough desk space that I don't have to worry about a cable :D
No wireless is just so much better.
because my mouse from 2014 still works fine
If only my cat wouldn't step on the cable when I'm in 1v1 clutch lol
Cuz there's no wireless viper 8 khz
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