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dont bump ur boring thread smh, ofc zonic is goat
Kuben better i fear
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Opinion
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no its a fact. get over it.
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also an opinion
dm you won
Opinion
I think zonic is def undisputed goat coach but 2nd might be kuben.
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zews
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zews had a lot of teams but post LG/SK he was literally not doing anything i think its
1.zonic
2.kuben
3.Robban
4.zews
5.idk
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Blad3 somewhere maybe?
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Even though he struggles for the last year to find good replacements
He was there when teams won. Wow great archivements.
We don't know what work coaches do. So you can't judge what he contributed to the win
Facts
No need to point out the obvious
Straight facts
hunden clears him
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Isn't HUNDEN legit the greatest mind in CSGO? MF brought out Danish talents by the dozen and made them T1 (like Mad Lions).
Too bad he resorted to cheating and scummy behavior.
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+1
coached a domestic team to 4 majors
coached international team to 1 major so far
undisputed
GOAT of coaching? All zonic does is make a serious face on camera to fool everyone into thinking that he's done something.
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Is the coaching role really that simple?
Actually, no. Zonic is not a bad coach, but he doesn't deliver much. Astralis prime did not need him.
And, if Vitality won, it is mainly because XQTZZ coached zonic...
Plus, Vitality struggled a lot before Paris, 2 times a row not being able to reach the champion stage.
Vitality needed to put jackz, and then, to show Dupreeh how to play in the roster to really perform.
The help of Zonic is quite limited IMO.
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More or less. What is true is that zonic did not do much in Vitality.
Astralis was a pure momentum. And, outside of it, zonic, is not the "goat" coach that we all believe he was.
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Lol what even is this analysis….pretty clueless
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Ok so he did not bring anything to vitality, and outside of prime Astralis, he did not do so well..
You, are clueless....
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I think his opinion is based on the news of XQTZZ helping vitality to reconstruct
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Indeed
Momentum after winning major in 2017 but bombing out of Krakow and Boston? You don't win 3 majors on momentum alone. It's harder to stay on the top than to reach the top. Faze won all big events in first half of 2022 but then astralis did it in 2018, 2019 and 2020.
Biggest flagflair in history
yeah, thats why G2 won so many trophies with XQTZZ.....
XQTZZ CARRIED HARD BY ZYWOO those are facts, as soon as he went to g2 he was just sitting on a chair watching Niko play, he is very good tactically and probably to scout players and talents, but taking 5 majors away from ZONIC cuz gla1ve+ XQTZZ is one of the most stupidiest thing anybody ever said on this forum, ur flag worshiper and thats about it
lets see after XQTZZ finds a new team how many majors will he win in cs2, since clearly he carried zonic this major in ur opinion....
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Tbh i think XQTZZZ good, but the reason why Vitality won is huge hardwork with zonic. Sure everybody helped, i do remember zonic talked to karrigan (how to have succesfull international roster) so they did have insane amount of lessons from others. But they had worked so hard to be where they are so yeah its team effort not anyone else and its not anyone schooling anyone at most i can say XQTZZZ helped in analysis in at most like 5-10% but the rest is purely team's work with its staff, coaches and others
The worst part is I think you're actually being serious.
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Are you going to tell me that, outside the golden five of Astralis, Zonic managed to prove, only according to the idea of 'revolutionary management who made the success of Astralis' - to help vitality?
No, they failed consecutively to reach a playoff with the best player in the world.
He is not bad, clearly not, but he did not do what others could not, most coach are the same IMO.
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Bro he won major with vita
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"French_Scene_CEO" is convinced the main reason they won the major is because XTQZZZ helped with the prep, lol.
I personally think he was only brought onto the team because Neo felt bad that he's out of work.
I mean, if he was such a vital piece, why wouldn't they have kept him on the team?
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Ngl the fact people take victory from zonic is insane at most xqtzzz analysis helped 10-15% and i say it at most. The rest is clearly hard work of zonic and his team
people forget maleK jeeez
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