I agree, I think that it is a little sad the the community is so hostile to it yet there is an expectation to get premium production & talent for free. TO's and organizations make content with players and it barely gets any views.
The best solution is some sort of a cooperation between valve and these TO's, like releasing an esports case / sticker capsule, where x% would go to said TO would help tremendously.
Maybe a drop system where you PPV for a low fee but you can win skins while watching the game, or other different prizes, like a mpad or a keyboard.
TO music kit would also be nice.
Because this forum is free
Guess who was in Paris watching from the first row as the csgo goat won his first major?
free healthcare and free cs:go tournament streaming
esports has too much money in it
Ticket sales, adds, sponsorship.
Not to talk about the billions valve earns on valve events
wtf u on about... they earn enough, if any event isn't they are doing it wrong
i dont car about csgo
im just here for the intellectual debates
And why do i even have to pay for it? It's the same as paying for some YouTuber video or for UCL. 0 sense to pay for watching video game.
If PPV enters eSports - i would rather to waste my money on music, alcohol, or whores than on watching this game (if i can literally play this game for free LMAO).
why would I pay? Maybe orgs should pay less to their players and build their economy so they don't need to be bankrupt or sold?
Yeah it's kinda funny how everyone thinks it's a terrible idea and esports will lose all it's viewers and it would overall be bad thing to do, while all other big sports (like Football, NHL, NBA, F1, Golf etc.) already have in a way PPV system in place (you have to pay somewhere to watch them). Other sports just do it in a way that it's included in the subscription of some network like ESPN, Viaplay, Sky Sports etc. that show some other additional content (like other sports) as well. I think it's just natural to think of that possibility now that esports has gotten a lot bigger since it works for other big sports too.
However I do think it wouldn't work as well as other sports because esport fans in general use less money for that esport and also it's mostly gamers who are better with computers and thus way more likely to pirate the content somewhere else. It could still be more profitable for the TO's and the industry to have some PPV, but it would probably have to be cheaper than in normal sports. With the amount of orgs going bankrupt it's obvious the scene isn't healthy, it shouldn't be that a team like Heroic that is just part of few games (CSGO, Simracing & R6) and a partner to both Blast & ESL is struggling with money while they have also had top 5 best team in the world for over a year now.
im fine with all the gambling or whatever sponsors if it can maintain events being free. you can't have it both ways and im fine with that
I don't mind PPV if I have the option to mute the casters and the jerseys/HUD isn't covered with sponsors. But that's not happening so fuck PPV.
nah screw that if ppv happens ill just watch the demos instead.
thats correct i dont care about csgo pros
Bruh. You do realise that not everyone has money they can spend on stuff like watching a csgo tournament? "A few dollars" can be a lot to someone
+1 look at all the hypocrite freeloaders above me performing mental gymnastics
EDIT: freeloader mental gymnastic under me as well
almost all s tier tournaments apart from majors are bad now anyway. people actually want to pay to watch the same 8 partner teams play the same strats against eachother over and over again?
Because if I pay they will still do other types of monetisation (ads, etc.) and just make even more money.
Point of paying plz explain?
hey your couple euro worth 1 day of eating good meal in my country so shut up.
lmao valve makes 100M+ in one month on cases alone, surely they would introduce PPV to risk their player growth
esports are game, people playing this for fun, yes i dont care about pros who earn 20k a month meanwhile im earning 200 a month, why should i care?
I don't agree with ppv not because I myself wouldnt spare 5 bucks to watch the tournaments, but because a large portion of the audience woudln't.
In here and other related forums we are in a very commited community to the game, and we watch it frequently like a lot of people would watch football or basketball, but the reality is that a lot of the audience watches it casually and wouldnt really bother to pay the 5 bucks for most tournaments if any.
Also considering esports is still an underground thing more or less, we would be handicaping it's growth by putting behind a paywall.
Edit: Also, considering the numbers would probably drop significantly and that the sponsorships whoa re the main source of revenue come because of those numbers, long term I think it would just kill the sport as anything but a small niche
I'd pay but only for about 4 events max.
Major, IEM Katowice, ESL One Cologne and BLAST world finals.
Probably The major wouldn't be PPV tho, as Valve won't allow that, but it's the only event orgs get money from, so not really necessary.
But.. if PPV would of happen I fear I wouldnt be the only 1 paying for such and only these events.. this could be turning into a CSGO "pro circuit".. small orgs And T.Os and smaller events? What would be of them?
too early to make it ppv since there is not even a donation option. you can't even donate if you want to. im sure there are some rich cs fans that would spare some money after hearing how brokies are orgs atm
Just make it voluntary contribution like cam whores, a few pays and 95% of wankers watches with them.
what is this thread about
It would simply not get enough viewers so it would never happen.
I cant pay because I dont have money
There's more than one way to pay for a service buddy
I pay with my time. That is more worth than any money
Do they not make anything as it is? There must be money coming in or they wouldn’t be doing these events
I have no idea what you're talking about or what do you want..
yes I have too much money please take some from me
it is not top tier casting or hosting its the same shit every week. same casters, same players, same hosts, same matchups. why pay for shit if you have seen it before. and if only majors are ppv, then you can watch all other games
I would only pay to watch SANJI in a major final
lol majority ain't gonna pay shit to watch. the result is TOs gonna lose so much viewers/audience and then advertisers gonna bail out because of the low audience the games/streams reach. you think that loss is gonna get covered by paid viewers?
Simple answer. If money is involved people will always get greedy and it will be not enjoyable after time. This has always and will always be the case. If money is involved the customer will always suffer from the greed. Soon the 5 bucks ppv will be 25 bucks.
Because it's free mf
I'm not paying for shit lol
I'd never pay for a csgo event, no matter what event it was.
I don't even pay for real sports, why would I pay for this?
Oh, they can try, let's see how many people pay for viewing the content.
Esports is extremely difficult to monetise because the average viewer is quite tight with money. Typical esports viewer is university/college aged male, probably without a job. Most mainstream sports are subscription based to watch (sky sports for PL, F1 etc.. cost around £25 per month). Tickets for games are quite spenny, so is merch (football shirts) food and beverages at the games.
I would not pay to watch esports even though I can afford it. It's a nice thing to watch in the evening when I'm too tired to do anything else, but if I had to pay for it, I can just watch literally anything else that's free. CS isn't important enough for me to spend 10EUR/week on.
No, I don’t think I will. Don’t care if they lose money
Is that relevant to HLTV?
I would probably not watch then. I have time to waste, not money
forums are the pinical of the internet before PPV btw
I can't cuz i don't have euros EZ