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Time proved him right. Tell'em king, you were criticised but i stand by your side.
not just with g2 but he keeps saying currently the level of cs is shit
like tbh its absolute ass, cant say any team that wouldnt lose to an underdog having a good day
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its fine but the current era is something else
its happening left and right, random asian team out of nowhere beating navi, mongolz beating g2 then disappearing etc
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they did like half year ago as ihc???
nvm c9
bro are you dumb?
upsets happen because of pressure and preparation.
Magisk said that if we played the kind of game we played(QF of paris major) in copenhagen at our peak astralis time, we'd lose.
That explains all the upsets in the knockout stages. Underdogs are obviously very prepared and teams exactly don't know their prep and have to counterstrat on the fly generally.
The level of cs only keeps increasing.
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man are you dumb? past year 10x more upsets than before
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obviously previously teams were trying to stabilise after covid so that makes sense.
Now it's quite stable.
Ur name is so cancer I love it
Not just esports, sports too, for example, in the NBA the Heat (number 8# seed) are in the finals right now facing the nuggets, and they defeated the Bucks #1seed, Knicks #5 seed, and Celtics #2 seed, so because the huge underdogs are in the finals means the lvl of basketball that is being player is shit? Sure lol, people are just malding
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He said they wouldn’t win anything and that was objectively wrong.
Also what other predictions was he right about?
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I don’t feel like clipping it but i think his exact words were the roster would achieve nothing and would be a waste of everyone’s time and money
It’s in his rostermania video when the move happened if you wanna see
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Well, i guess 2 tournaments arent "NOTHING" but when it comes to a waste of everyones time and money, hes completely right imo.
As the top 3 team they are supposed to be, they should be in the playoffs for both of the majors they fucked themselves in. (Well, one of them they didnt even qualify)
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Winning Kato is def not a waste of everyone’s time. That was the first big event win in G2s history and Niko as well. Also made jks the first to win back to back on different teams. It was a massive.
Everyone focuses on Hooxi but RL also said jks was a bad signing (and called Valde a G2 caliber player). Jks is currently the third highest rated player for G2 in 2023 so I think he was definitely off on that as well
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Yea it was on his show with Maui. He said jks was a bad signing and Valde would be a g2 caliber signing lmao
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With the new roster, G2 will fail. HooXi and jks are a step of despair. If I had decided, Aleksib would not have kicked. The club’s actions indicate that G2 does not have a clear idea of where to go and what to do. [About jks] I’ve never seen such a mediocre player. He is very overrated. When I heard of Aleksib’s departure, I thought that some kind of star had already been bought in his place. Then it became known that it was HooXi. Is a G2 fan happy about this? Of course not. His stats are even worse than Aleksib’s. And what to do with NiKo’s unofficial leadership? Everyone understands that while in G2, you must obey NiKo.
- esportschimp.com/csgo/37055.html
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Have to agree here, Richard Lewis seemingly has no real clue of how the game workd fundementally, let alone the various meta's at any point.
Decent journalist though, he should focus on that instead of making himself look like a clown on Twitter and on videos.. but it's circus revenue I guess.
The level is high as it has never been, but currently, the "tier1" we know isn't on the level, but tier2 is. Today's teams like BNE, 9ine, GL, Forze, are on higher level than teams were in the past.
It's just esport economy problem ruined the idea of tier1 and now people think exactly this because named tier1 are losing to "nonamers" however, without the money these nonamers would be on the tournament except of them.
There's no match for players like Zywoo, M0nesy, Niko, S1mple etc.. in the past of this game, sure at that time lvl & today's lvl you can compare them, but put their peak forms vs each other & today's era will crush them.
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this is the correct answer imo. tier1 sucks but tier2 is so much better, they have actual strats and try their best to come up with creative ideas, tier1 teams just default, rely on their aim and recycle ideas/nades
yeah guess the scene is good again now that g2 is sucking!
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I mean he said they wouldn’t win a trophy though
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Sure but that doesn’t make his prediction RIGHT
Like if you bet on a team to win a championship in a real sport, and their star player gets hurt in the last week of the season, you don’t get your money back because you couldn’t have seen it coming.
He may have been right in spirit, I’m just saying the predictions he gave about G2 (and especially about jks) were not correct based on the words he used
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You are a literal moron, you think people getting hired by events are going sit there and say the fucking scene is weak? Are you even comprehending how impossible that is?
"Yes, these guys are paying me to promote their tournament, lets sit here and push people away by telling them the truth".
Lets look at the history of CSGO, shall we?
Would a team with Hooxi and JKS have a chance against prime astralis? No.
Would a team with Hooxi and JKS beat Liquid when they were on their GS streak? No.
Would a team with Hooxi and JKS beat a 2021 Na'Vi with Boombl4? No.
Would a team with Hooxi and JKS beat a early 2022 prime Faze Clan? No
G2 were dominant when EVERY other S tier team were in the bin. Thoorin, RL, P1mp and Maniac all backed this being fake hype, and it has been proven ever since. Grow up before you speak to me again.
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Mauisnake didn't have a problem repeatedly calling BLAST Major the worst major of all time, while literally working (with pay) on said major.
So that entire argument of yours is flawed and illogical.
That little "history" that provided wasn't event history, it was you speculating how teams today would compare to teams in the past. You answering these question with a straight no (or yes) just show how little knowledge you actually have of counterstrike.
PS: JKS literally helped 'prime' FaZe win a massive tournament against good teams.
So again, before even ridiculing yourself even more, answer my initial question.
"Who is saying that the scene is weak except Richard Lewis?
In terms of eSports talent / people, that is actually being hired in events"
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Dude you're sitting here trying to defend Hooxi, the shittest T1 player of all time. Just grow up fr.
You're trying to win a lost debate just because you have a hatred for the most successful esports journalist of all time. He said that G2 wouldn't achieve anything, if you think beating a bunch of weak teams is an achievement, good for you. Noone in the scene in 5 years time will look back on 2022 G2 as an amazing team.
JKS was good under karrigan, actually looked like a T1 player, it was the same with the MOUS players when Karrigan was there for a moment in time, that's just what Karrigan is capable of.
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In what world am I defending him?
How can you lack such basic reading comprehension whilst your native language is English? Is this what happens when you watch too much Richard Lewis?
And again, you didn't answer my basic direct question.
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Who is saying that the scene is weak except Richard Lewis?
In terms of eSports talent / people, that is actually being hired in events.
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You are defending the narrative that G2 were and are a legit team... You are defending that this team can achieve something when the scene isn't weak, as we have seen since they last won. If another team start performing they way the should (Heroic, Vitality, Faze, Navi), G2 instantly lose the limelight by being unsuperior, mainly because they have the worst T1 player ever in Hooxi, and a very average player in JKS, almost as if RL stated this from the beginning.
I have answered your question, no one that was attending events during G2's "dominance" were saying on live broadcast that the scene was weak, even though is was extremely clear. the GOAT of CS played more hours of Valorant during this period, that gives you enough evidence that top teams were losing motivation fast. RL was right, G2 are objectively a shit team, with a shit future, Hooxi doesn't belong in T1 CS, and will never ever be remembered for his times at G2, why is everyone forgetting that G2 didn't even attend the RIO major....
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Richard Lewis (and Yoinkyy from HLTV)
- Never been a professional player and/or coach
- Is not actively hired by TO as an analyst.
(In fact, he has never even been hired as one)
Other actively working talents:
- Former professional player and/or coach
- Is actively hired by TO as an analyst, because of their expertise and knowledge of counterstrike.
It is even more apparent that you lack the absolute basic understanding of counterstrike based on the other comments you've made in this thread.
Just stop, it's embarrassing.
Jks is currently G2s third rated player in the year 2023 with a 1.13 rating playing the absolute shittiest positions so yea I’d say he could play for a pretty damn good team in his current form
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As if you're saying this. JKS is a supportive T side player and a CT anchor, these aren't shit positions, these are positions that players can frag out, especially in the current meta of CS. JKS scoops up low health CTs and low health Ts all game long as he is never first contact.
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You can either be an anchor or a rotate on CT side. There is no planet in this universe where CT anchors get consistently more opportunities to frag than others. Saying that anchoring isn’t the worst role on CT is such a silly opinion it makes me hesitant to engage any further in this convo since you are either uniformed or arguing in bad faith.
Perfecto plays the EXACT same roles on Navi and had a 1.03 rating on that 2021 superteam you brought up
Xyp played those roles in 2018 and had a 1.13 rating, the same as jks in 2023
What can jks do for you to call him a good player? He’s already outperforming hunter in 2023. Does he need a ducking 1.3 rating for you?????
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You people are literally the most pathetic humans to exist. People were saying that JKS needed to replace RAIN, I M A G I N E that. Rain is one of the most decorated players to ever touch CS and dumb JKS fans were holding him on a higher pedistol. After looking how many people overhyped JKS, you should all be expecting 1.3 ratings, this community is a joke.
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He specifically said jks was a bad signing for G2 (he also said Valde would be a G2 caliber signing xD). Someone being “overrated” does not make them a bad signing or bad player.
Stop creating strawman and engage in the argument I am presenting you.
i do love how every time someone shuts one of your arguments you start an entirely different one pretending is the same one xD
you went from
"jks position is a top fragging position"
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"you guys were calling for rain to be replaced"
btw 2 things can be true at the same time... its not that complicated
people were stupid for asking jsk to remplace rain, lewis was stupid for calling jks trash, he was right that hooxie wasn't gonna last long, he was wrong in that they would never win anything
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wtf is this
Who cares what the community thinks? How is that even related?
Is that seriously your counterargument?
Here is mine, based on hard facts
hltv.org/news/36168/who-are-the-modern-d..
No way you think that 2021 navi didnt have the worst scene in cs since krakow. S1mple's path to grands was, team zywoo 1v9, onliners and team niko 1v9
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That was one of his arguments. Doesn't change that he said something objectively wrong.
I don't even know what you want to achieve here trying to defend a wrong prediction. It is okay to make wrong predictions, nobody can view into the future. But then later claiming that he was always correct and didn't make a wrong prediction is nonsense
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So it wasn’t right. Glad you finally understand
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Yea it’s like betting on a team in real sports to win a championship then attempting to get a refund when a player gets hurt lmao
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He said in #98 that CT anchor roles are considered the good roles. Wouldn’t worry about his opinion
>G2 will never win anything with this roster
>they win 2 S-Tier tournaments with it (so far), making it their first trophy since 2017
>lose irrelevant playoff seeding match
>Richard Lewis was right!
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lmao at not listing how they've done at Major's as though those 2 events they won were yesterday.
Also lmao as calling Blast events other than their Grand Final S tier events
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The blast event they won was the world finals
World Finals featuring Faze, Vitality, NaVi, Heroic, Liquid. <-- not an S-Tier event, even though they had regular BO3 double elim and everything else to make it a legit S-Tier event.
Not making the Rio major is a disaster yes, not getting to playoffs is also "bad" (same can be said for NaVi, C9, etc.) but winning the World Finals and fucking Katowice shows that the team is not "trash".
RLewis said, they won't win anything. They won two things. Saying "yes, but the major!" is just moving the goal posts.
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All of his points (maybe except the seeding one) is correct. Richard Lewis said this roster wouldn't win shit.
Without giving any timetable to his prediction, he is just beating his chest every time G2 fail at something. With the sheer amount of games that they play throughout a year it's extremely cringe to not expect them to exit some tournaments, pretty much all teams do. All in all the roster move was decent, not amazing (lacking major performances), but still decent.
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I'm not saying that they liked losing. Of course they would've wanted to be in the semis immediately. But losing a BO3 to Heroic in a seeding match does not mean "RLewis was right".
If they would've bombed out, you could say that (even though they won World Finals and Katowice, but sure).
However, they reached playoffs, they are not out yet. This team is certainly not a failure.
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Did he say they wouldn’t win in the major? Or did he say they wouldn’t win anything at all?
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He didn't even say they would lose the major. He wasn't confident in that. G2 shitting the bed was just a pleasant surprise for him, so he could claim that he was always right.
G2 not winning the major isn't even a prediction, if you think that there are Faze, Navi, G2, Heroic, Vitality as the favourites to win it all, saying g2 won't win is betting on a 4/5 probability. WOW, much prediction!
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I’m not saying it’s not bad, but none of that has to do with his prediction that they wouldn’t win ANYTHING
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There is nothing hyperbolic about saying they won't win anything. How can you twist it to say "it would mean that g2 won't win much" what is much? 1,2 trophies? He just made a high bet and lost, poorly.
They didn't because the only time g2 didn't reach playoffs this year was rio and that they won two trophies back to back.
C9 has NOTHING to show for.
After he gave the statement I’m pretty sure he said you can take it to the bank as well. But also it’s not up to me to determine what is meant and what isn’t. I’m just using the words he used. He said they wouldn’t win anything and the roster was a waste of everyone’s time and money. This was wrong as soon as they won Kato. I even gave him the benefit of the doubt on world finals. But Kato was a massive achievement for the org and players
Also in his interview with Mauisnake he said jks was a bad signing and someone like Valde was a G2 caliber player which is DEFINATELY wrong
Ye im not g2 fan but winning thropies is hard bru, winning blast and kato are good achievements, watch faze they look like 5 potatos on 1 tournament then win grand slam
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People act like winning trophies is easy
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damn dude how did you know??
TRUE
He was wrong. Point blank. That's a fact. And he won't admit it. Neither will his fangirls.
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and what about now dickhead?
twitter.com/GhoulZapper/status/158269586..
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About today is that "G2 won't win anything with hooxi" is still false, and will keep being false, forever.
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Your account didn't get banned, so instead of admitting I was wrong, I will just shift the goalpost and say the admins doesn't know what they're doing.
From now on, I will repeat
"Piers__Morgan from UK with an ITB flair, your account will be banned in one minute."
until (if) it happens, then say, "I TOLD YOU SO"
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what is blud waffling about 💀
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He's still wrong and will always be wrong
Right in what way dude. He predicted g2 wouldn't win anything and they did twice.
Can you please remove this guy from the conversation as an analyst? He is an edgy journalist and thats it
"G2 will fail" most bland prediction ever. It could happen at anytime and he would claim he was right.
He said same about jks too not just Hooxi. He's just an overly cynical moron.
context
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Exactly, he isn't even "eventually right", he is just wrong.
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First he claimed that G2 wont ever win something with hooxi -> G2 wins 2 big S-tier tourneys.
RL -> yeAh bUt tHe SCenE iS tErRiBlE rIghT noW.
can't argue with a moron like that, he'll just change the goal post whenever he's wrong.
+1 rich havin a laugh
G2 is disappointing but his prediction was still wrong. He's been saying that for years about whatever teams that will fail it's not exactly the most savvy of predictions, he was never good at that even before he became a paranoid mess like his friend
it´s always nice to have a veteran guy with tons of experience and know-how in a space but that has stopped playing politics and is done with the bs.
You will find that most often than not what´s said is true and makes sense, even if uncomfortable.
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Remember how he said that jks will be irrelevant and G2 picking him up was a mistake? Crazy how he doesn't acknowledge how incredibly wrong he was there. Again, he just throws shit at the wall and only focuses on what sticks.
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