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top 20 so far in 2023
Turkey TURKEY_TOP1 
1-ZywOo undisputed 2-Sh1ro 3-Spinx 4-s1mple 5-broky 6-NiKo 7-ropz 8-ax1le 9-m0nesy 10-stavn 11-hunter(kato mvp) 12-jabbi 13-kscerato(low success) 14-frozen 15-jks 16-naf 17-electronic 18-nertz 19-magisk 20-cadian
2023-06-03 13:57
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how spinx is 3 and magisk 19 lol
2023-06-03 13:58
9 replies
whats wrong?
2023-06-03 13:59
#5
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Romania Kuchi
what about sh0r0 lol
2023-06-03 14:02
Agree magisk gotta be higher
2023-06-03 16:58
#108
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Bait?
2023-06-05 00:50
Magisk is likely to place around the 10th-15th mark, I'd be happy if he managed to breach the Top 10 but it's unlikely. Spinx is definitely a Top 3 player this year, so that shouldn't really be a surprise.
2023-06-05 00:55
3 replies
Yeah, i meant magisk should be higher cause he is not much worse than spinx, i'd say he is sometimes better
2023-06-05 04:54
2 replies
Fair enough. :) Fingers crossed he breaks Top 10 but in reality, he'll probably just about break into the Top 15, like 14 or 13 at best.
2023-06-05 10:36
1 reply
I Hope but we will see
2023-06-05 13:01
#3
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France Evalion
nertz jks naf axaxa
2023-06-03 13:59
5 replies
4 replies
this wasnt even good play lmao zywoo just whiffed
2023-06-03 14:15
3 replies
still won the game
2023-06-03 14:24
1 reply
doesnt change the fact he baited whole team and won the clutch cuz of zywoo whiff lmao
2023-06-03 14:28
#35
F1KU | 
Poland Brisu
rare zywoo miss
2023-06-03 14:27
I'd put ropz in front of broky any day of the week
2023-06-03 14:00
3 replies
true
2023-06-03 14:03
#71
ropz | 
Estonia CYLOR
yes.
2023-06-03 15:46
As broky fan, fact, but brokys catching up yknow, if he can somehow secure this Dallas MVP they're pretty tied, but atm I'd swap their pos, maybe even lower them a tad.
2023-06-03 16:46
no Im? thats crazy
2023-06-03 14:03
7 replies
Only 1 event played so far this year even though it's was major
2023-06-03 14:13
no its not...
2023-06-03 16:21
1 reply
I'm crazy
2023-06-05 01:40
Unfortunately one event =/= The entire year Plus, iM is a tier 2 player, so his playoffs or top placing at big events/elite events are few and far between. If GL can make more big event playoffs and iM continues to perform like at the Major? Then and only then is it possible for him to make the Top 20.
2023-06-05 00:57
2 replies
im not reading that you dont even watch cs
2023-06-05 01:40
1 reply
Pretty sure that I need to watch CS in order to be able to make that comment, but that would involve that you actually read the post that you refused to read in the first place to be able to make that distinction... Your baits get worse and worse by the post, friend.
2023-06-05 01:52
Sh1ro??? Is not playing good right now
2023-06-03 14:05
2 replies
#59
interz | 
Other prav
? About the same stats as 2022
2023-06-03 15:32
he's good but clown9 just underperforming
2023-06-03 16:44
#10
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United States 420Pizza
1-19: 420Pizza 20. Zyw0o
2023-06-03 14:06
2 replies
#38
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Poland rogers77
+1
2023-06-03 14:32
i need pizza... and 420
2023-06-05 23:23
Stopped reading at Cadian
2023-06-03 14:06
2 replies
based
2023-06-03 14:07
2 strong EVPs and overall good stats. It's enough for top 20 as of now.
2023-06-03 14:13
ropz definitely over broky, hunter much lower (despite the Kato MVP) The rest is debatable as well, but not far from reality.
2023-06-03 14:07
#14
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Italy Karimk03
How is elec higher than magisk?
2023-06-03 14:07
2 replies
epl
2023-06-03 14:09
1 reply
1 event puts him higher? Bro what u on rn 💀💀
2023-06-03 17:00
#15
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Denmark OgBobby420
not dev1ce and twistzz???
2023-06-03 14:08
4 replies
Twistzz has 1.00± rating vs top5/10 and overall not that impressive stats. Device is missed here I think as well, but he has only 39 maps so far this year. I would give him 15±3 place as of now
2023-06-03 14:14
2 replies
man has a solid evp at epl, twistzz will in the top 20
2023-06-03 14:33
1 reply
he definitely wouldnt be there if list is made atm...
2023-06-03 16:22
where is blamef
2023-06-03 14:09
2 replies
in t3
2023-06-03 14:09
1.14 rating in 2023 so far and 0 EVPs.
2023-06-03 14:12
i love spinx but he aint #3
2023-06-03 14:10
6 replies
2 replies
it shows s1mple and ropz above him ?
2023-06-03 15:41
1 reply
Spinx 2 trophy 2 mvp level evp S1mple 0 trophy Ropz 1 trophy+1mvp and missed playoffs in katowice+rio
2023-06-03 15:43
why not??
2023-06-03 14:22
1 reply
u should look about trophis to and how he play together
2023-06-03 14:22
he definitely is
2023-06-03 16:23
sponx 3 LUL
2023-06-03 14:11
3 replies
nice raceist its only beacuse he is from israel for sure the guy is top 5for sure moving to vitalty after they didnt succed with misuta and bring them together to top 1 how he is not game changer lol
2023-06-03 14:21
1 reply
he is from palestine though
2023-06-03 14:56
#37
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Italy Karimk03
Spinx >twistzz
2023-06-03 14:30
#28
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Estonia Nekotex
Ropz over broky for sure, better rating + pro league MVP.
2023-06-03 14:19
niko ahead of ropz? KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2023-06-03 14:22
how is spinx, broky and niko over ropz, ropz has epl mvp, dont forget that
2023-06-03 14:34
5 replies
Nobody in the history of CS is winning an MVP with Zywoo in the team. Spinx is better than all 3 of them.
2023-06-03 14:40
1 reply
+1
2023-06-05 23:25
Spinx's Major EVP is stronger than ropz's EPL MVP
2023-06-03 14:42
#75
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Israel IdoXD
flag and flair i know, but current spinx clears ropz
2023-06-03 15:54
its easy... both have 1.18 in big events but vs top5 1.21 vs 1.09 vs top10 1.16 vs 1.13 vs top20 1.19 vs 1.18 all in favour for spinx
2023-06-03 16:25
+1
2023-06-03 14:39
1-ZywOo undisputed 2-Sh1ro 3-Spinx 4-ropz / S1mple 5-s1mple / ropz 6-stavn 7-m0nezy 8-NikO 9-Broky 10-Ax1Le 11-hunter +Magisk Higher
2023-06-03 14:49
1 reply
Strong list, I'd maybe add dev1ce to the end of it. Niko above m0nesy also, maybe even above stavn.
2023-06-03 16:48
spinx > sh1ro 1 zywoo 2 spinx 3 s1mple 4 sh1ro 5 ropz 6 broky 7 niko 8 axile 9 monesy 10 stavn
2023-06-03 15:14
4 replies
i think not making the major will drop sh1ro down
2023-06-03 15:42
3 replies
Imho not participating at the event is better than participating badly I guess. S1mple's 1.07 rating will bring him down more than sh1ro's absence there. + if we remember IEM Rio major, broky had like 0.95 rating then, but if he hadn't qualified, I think it would have been even better for him.
2023-06-03 16:06
2 replies
It isn't, blameF had better stats than most people above him in 2022 and he ended below this people because of not attending events.
2023-06-03 16:13
1 reply
I mean there are two sides of gathering sample size of maps. BlameF lacked the number of big games but had he played at both Majors with 0.90-like stats, he ultimately wouldve been even lower at the list despite having more maps. For a player to have a better profile he needs both of good sample of maps and stats. As of broky's case at Rio: missing that major wouldnt hurt his sample as it was great even without Rio, meanwhile his stats profile would be much better.
2023-06-03 16:46
broky above ropz, bad list imo.
2023-06-03 15:14
1 reply
2023-06-03 15:24
1. device rest is irrelevant
2023-06-03 15:14
1 reply
#50
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Portugal silent____
+1
2023-06-03 15:23
#49
iM | 
Romania 21r21r
will iM make it to top 20 afterall or he will be a flop ?
2023-06-03 15:17
1 reply
That depends on GL or even iM if he changed team. It's fine being as good a player as iM but you still need a team around you to be able to reach those playoffs at big events, LAN's, elite events, etc... :) He has a possible solid Major EVP performance but not really anything else to go on...
2023-06-05 01:03
if -IM have more tournaments can be top 20
2023-06-03 15:25
1 reply
yeah maybe
2023-06-03 15:43
The fact that you don't have device on this list already shows this is just a bad bait :D Yes he didn't do the major, but also he is top 3 player stats-wise whole year :D
2023-06-03 15:25
6 replies
i like dev1ce but 10 maps on big events aint enought hltv.org/stats/players/7592/device?start..
2023-06-03 15:26
Tell me one reason for device to put in top 20 over someone in the list
2023-06-03 15:37
bro he played 3 lans
2023-06-03 15:43
Only 39 maps overall and 10 maps at big events this year. Device should be there, but not higher than 15th.
2023-06-03 15:48
he is absolutely right with not having device in top20 lol...
2023-06-03 16:27
In all fairness, that's not really Device's fault that Astralis haven't even been a tier 1 team throughout the whole year but at the same time, that can obviously change. Astralis looked better and more consistent now, they achieved a Top 8 and playoffs finish at an S-Tier tournament, so fingers crossed things look up for Astralis and then in turn, Device who has been hard-carrying them.
2023-06-05 01:01
dupreeh will be in top 20 no matter what
2023-06-03 15:29
#57
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Brazil sl0tzz
ropz easily top 5
2023-06-03 15:30
#58
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Austria 9mi
1-ZywOo 2-ropz 3-spinx 4-sh1ro 5-s1mple 6-broky 7-Monesy 8-ax1le 9-Stavn 10-Niko 11-Magisk 12-jabbi 13-kscerato 14-frozen 15-jks 16-naf 17-electronic 18-nertz 19-Hunter 20-cadian/device/Im
2023-06-03 15:32
I care only about top10, didn't even read 10-20, but seems legit. Only I would put ropz in front of Niko
2023-06-03 15:33
no twistzz? and magisk 19 is wrong, bro
2023-06-03 15:40
3 replies
twistzz doenst deserve it atm...
2023-06-03 16:28
Brother Twistzz is having a weak year, but he prob still deserves, like top 16-17, no rain / yekindar is bigger ? than twistzz imo
2023-06-03 16:51
spinx>>>s1mple???? ok mate
2023-06-03 15:40
5 replies
#65
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Austria 9mi
s1mple has not done anything this year, stop living in 2022, spinx was struggling a bit early but hes a monster atm
2023-06-03 15:42
Counter argument?
2023-06-03 15:43
?? why not
2023-06-03 15:51
yes spinx is better than s1mple this year. kinda obvious...
2023-06-03 16:28
Check the stats buddy. Spinx underrated
2023-06-03 17:10
Don not frgot nawwk i don't like him but he is on point now
2023-06-03 15:52
M0nesy and Ropz should be higher than Niko for sure
2023-06-03 15:56
m0NESY over NiKo for this year
2023-06-03 15:57
1-Zywoo 2-Ropz/Spinx 3-Spinx/Ropz Anything else is delusional
2023-06-03 16:11
ax1le higher def
2023-06-03 16:26
#88
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United States urm@m
cypher top 5
2023-06-03 16:28
lil bro ropz can't be lower than top 3
2023-06-03 16:35
1 reply
he can...
2023-06-03 19:12
not rn, but Sunpayus will end up in top 20 after IEM Dallas MVP
2023-06-03 16:47
1 reply
called it, first part done
2023-06-05 02:06
#98
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Australia boblao
NO YEKINDAR OK?
2023-06-03 16:52
wheres donkgod man
2023-06-03 16:52
1 reply
#100
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Italy Karimk03
Farming tier 2 + online
2023-06-03 16:55
really don't agree Niko and broky being so high
2023-06-03 16:56
Did magisk dirty son
2023-06-03 17:02
Niko and broky are way too high 5th place is between s1mple or stavn.
2023-06-03 17:10
Broky at 5th? Magisk should also be above NertZ but that's just my opinion. Otherwise, solid opinion and list. :)
2023-06-05 00:59
Where is godpayus? Joke list
2023-06-05 01:04
ropz 7th XDDDDDDDDDDD
2023-06-05 01:09
1 reply
yeah XD my man trippin
2023-06-05 01:54
#116
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Norway Snaids
1 is sonic obvi
2023-06-05 01:16
1. zywho 2. sh1no 3-4 Sp1nx/s4mple 5. ropzicle 6. staWn 7. m0neSI 8. AxEle 9. NoCCo 10. brokie
2023-06-05 02:00
6 replies
i would be interested knowing how the hell you place S1mple over or equal Spinx for now this year
2023-06-05 10:53
5 replies
first of all, I didnt as you can clearly see if you open your eyes second of all, it has only been 6 months third of all, Spinx will most likely drop off and his rating is still lower even now. fourth of all, Spinx will not win a sinigle mvp while s1mple can easily steal at least one this year. So yeah, pretty sure Spinx won't be above s1mple after the whole season lol.
2023-06-05 10:58
4 replies
lmao, your all narrative is to be obssesed with trophies, S1mple and Spinx has the same rating but Spinx Has won 2 Big LAN including the last csgo major with the 3rd best rating of the event and S1mple 0. One day you re overrating trophies for ranking players the other day you dont count it as much anymore, just choose a camp :)
2023-06-05 11:02
3 replies
Trophies in a ranking based on skill? Are you that stupid? 2 absolutely different lists Anyway, where do you see me putting s1mple over Spinx? He is mentioned as s4mple? And no, s1mple has higher rating than him. Spinx might be 3d right now but s1mple only needs to step up a bit in the upcoming 6 more months lol, Spinx won’t be third after the whole season I dont care if its the first or last major, it was the weakest and easiest run in csgo history. iTB, Apeks and GamerLegion to win a major lool but yeah nice win against top-31 hltv in the last major final in csgo xd
2023-06-05 19:12
2 replies
you are so delusional and biased its actually funny to see
2023-06-05 23:16
1 reply
ye delusional and biased for placing s1mple 4th XDXDXD aight mate and ye, lets pretend top-20 hltv and the GOAT of csgo have the same criterias to determine XDXD I honestly have no idea who hurt you so much. s1mple is not over Spinx but you keep arguing about it XDXD jesus christ u got issues
2023-06-06 01:37
m0nesy at 9 is the dumbest thing I've read in a while Such a terrible list must be trolling
2023-06-05 06:39
go to school
2023-06-05 10:57
#130
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Kazakhstan regr3t7
ropz 3 axile 4 rest is good
2023-06-05 11:11
#131
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Ukraine orfeuzaum
Niko is at the worst moment of his career, the only title he won, hunter was the MVP. Monesy has better stats than niko and broku this year, has the same number of titles, so it makes no sense to leave them ahead of monesy.
2023-06-05 11:22
#134
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Turkey 9ll
Bro, Dev1ce deserves top 20 at least. He was so good at IEM Dallas.
2023-06-05 19:14
NiKo and broky over ropz xd
2023-06-05 19:17
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