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Why do players become bad nearing 30?
deko | 
Hungary kushh_ 
Obviously not all of them, but almost everyone goes trash. 30-35 is absolutely not old for a man. I understand, maybe reaction time drops, but other skills? Why do they disappear?
2023-06-04 03:35
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Your body just slows down around that age, reflexes, brain etc
2023-06-04 03:36
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wrong as always lol, bro said brain slows down at age 30-35 😂😂😂
2023-06-04 03:37
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"wrong as always" Cloud9 | Russia Anton
2023-06-04 03:41
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4nton is Jermen. he even showed his passport 😫 on a gaming forum
2023-06-05 14:29
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2023-06-05 14:41
Like srsly xD I'm 31 and I feel no difference from being 25
2023-06-04 12:46
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sir you are one big coper
2023-06-05 00:46
of course its does, you not that sharp as 20 y.o
2023-06-05 00:55
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nonsense lol
2023-06-05 00:57
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why there is so aging deniers on HLTV? you cannot cope that youth doesn't last forever or what?
2023-06-05 14:22
prime is 29-31
2023-06-04 03:45
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Said no one ever
2023-06-04 03:47
in bingo, maybe
2023-06-04 03:54
peak age is like 28 on average, after that you still ofc can have some of the best years of your career
2023-06-04 04:18
North America AsheS_EdeN
Actually most studies have shown that the change is largely negligible. I think it's a matter of cultural/social norms. I think as more and more older players continue to do well (f0rest, Krimz, etc.) we'll see more players continue in that trend. For instance 10 years from now I fully expect NiKo, Zywoo, etc. to still do well in Tier 1 - especially as gaming in your 30's won't be uncommon/frowned up nearly as much.
2023-06-04 12:13
United Arab Emirates Merchunt
Yes, body does slow down yet the brain functions the same until around age 60. Raw mechanical skill/ reaction time is only a small component of what makes someone perform at a high level. Cognition and experience happen to be crucial especially for IGL role. P.s. As irrelevant as it sounds, I wish to see Niko, Dev1ce, etc. raising MVP trophies in their 50s. Hella motivating!
2023-06-05 14:50
Egypt Ozymandius
A bunch of reasons, reaction times go down, you have more responsibilities like family, probably burned out after playing same game for 15+ years, etc.
2023-06-04 03:37
The dedication and motivation is not the same. Family, life becomes more important than a video game. You'll be old one day and understand too
2023-06-04 03:40
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+1, you can still be a great player in your thirties if you just have the dedication and energy to grind as much as the kids do. Only maybe for awpers it gets worse because the reaction times get a little slower and that is important for awping.
2023-06-04 03:53
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United States voy1x
+1 32 year old talent pwnalone
2023-06-04 04:29
"life becomes more important than a video game." You're acting like as if these pros are wasting their precious time by playing these video games lol. It's their job, they are making a life out of this. Imagine giving this shitty take for any other profession.
2023-06-05 05:47
They just dont care about the game anymore, they keep playing because its their job
2023-06-04 03:40
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Snappi ironically seems better as a caller and a player at 32 than his late 20s.
2023-06-04 03:44
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he's still kinda hungry in terms of achievements in this game
2023-06-04 03:47
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Every cs pro is hungry to some extent cause it's their job but how does it translate into the game is what matters
2023-06-04 03:58
well he still looks like he is 19 so everytime he looks into the mirror, he gets hyped and motivated meanwhile karrigan has been looking 40 for 5 years now so its no surprise homeboi doesnt put in the hours anymore
2023-06-04 03:55
That's actually the most logical reason, it's almost impossible to keep up at this level without proper motivation and hunger
2023-06-04 03:57
I'd bet this is the main reason pros get washed up, some even way before 30. even though logically it would be in their favor to perform as long as possible, they can't just start caring again out of nowhere and no amount of hours in-game will change that fact
2023-06-05 00:58
Kebab | 
Germany exwhy
it is proven that in one decade your reaction goes down 4-6 ms starting from age 24 so it doesnt matter much
2023-06-04 04:00
United States KhanQu3st
There are a TON of reasons. The most obvious being reaction time, and the ability to maintain peak focus. But also older players are more likely to have other priorities that eat into their time to maintain their best form. For example, nitr0 has in recent years had to take times away from the team, including most recently just before the Major, in order to be with his wife and kids. 30-40 are usually the years people begin forming families. Also they might've lost motivation due to success, or simply burn out. As the saying goes, "victory has defeated you", success at a high level with consistency often results in a natural level of complacency.
2023-06-04 04:06
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Lol nice job spouting misinformation in #17 right after #16
2023-06-04 04:37
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United States KhanQu3st
0/8 Pronouns detected, opinion rejected
2023-06-05 00:38
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>Says reaction time is the main reason older pros get worse when it is scientifically negligible >Sperg out when you’re called out Good job? Ignorance!
2023-06-05 03:35
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United States KhanQu3st
I said it’s the most obvious. Most of my comment didn’t even have anything to do with that.
2023-06-05 03:42
Please stop trolling him. He has a valid opinion aswell.
2023-06-05 14:32
ur account is ai generated bro i swear
2023-06-05 03:45
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United States KhanQu3st
Very kuul bud
2023-06-05 04:02
Ton of tests and ex-athletes/professionals have often replied that it's not their reactions or speed that is often the problem. You see this a lot in professional cricket — batsman in particular, not bowlers because they often have a lot more physical injuries to manage — and sports like racing (see: Fernando Alonso). Often the biggest issue is motivation, but in esports it's also future employability. It's not as big of a deal for a professional athlete or a sportsmen to continue playing into their mid-30s because there are more pathways for them once their career ends. Esports isn't transferable in the same way, so there's more of an emphasis on people in their later 20s to make a move that shores up their lifestyle, family etc. for the next 20 years afterwards. Being a professional CS:GO player just doesn't open doors in the same way, and the esports ecosystem isn't developed enough to employ retiring professionals at the same volume that justifies them extending their careers for longer, even if they really love it.
2023-06-04 04:24
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Probably the best comment on this thread
2023-06-05 15:03
Biggest reason is motivation
2023-06-04 04:27
my answers r already covered but i think people tend to overemphasize reaction time compared to motivation. it's hard to play so many hours of the same game for so long, and once you slow down some teenager who's really grinding can catch up, especially if the game changes in meta or patches. otherwise i think u could make up for the reaction time with veteran knowledge, game sense, etc
2023-06-04 04:31
In my case I have been improving over the years, better aim, way of playing, experience. I think it gets better over the years. maybe the difference is that if you play a lot, it can affect fatigue but I think that many people, at that age, lose motivation, have other responsibilities, no longer have the time or less time to play probably.
2023-06-04 04:42
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I would +1 that And I think a big factor is that they learnt the game differently. Back when karrigan for example was in his prime individually players werent aware of a lot of the micro aspects of the game that people learning to play in the last few years know. You mostly just wideswung and fullsprayed, nowadays people are so much better at playing angles, winning 1v1 duels, preaim, movement in fights, peeking, knowing when to peek how, jiggling, knowing cheaky moves, nades etc...
2023-06-04 12:51
loba 33 yo god coming up on the pro scene
2023-06-04 04:42
it will be harder to focus on practices and games
2023-06-04 05:04
Because most of them starting to think about family and don't grind CS for 15h/a day like m0nesy
2023-06-04 12:16
as others have already mentioned, its probably not that much about reaction time, but i would say also about other health aspects (motivation is still the biggest reason though). While being a pro you can try to compensate with diet and exercise and what not, but i don't think you can fully conserve your joints, tendons etc. While many sports are demanding in that aspect, esports are in their essence unhealthy on multiple levels. When you just sit and use your fingers in a very intense way for 10 hours a day, i dont think you can preserve all of your health. Unless you are able to maintain balance ofc, but then - id say forget about striving to be top1 without grinding as hard as possible
2023-06-04 12:54
one word - motivation. thats all u just cant compare m0nesy and dupreeh for example
2023-06-04 12:54
ANa | 
United States Mosney
google stomach second brain
2023-06-05 03:54
alcohol will age you faster than anythangg
2023-06-05 04:13
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ANa | 
United States Mosney
damn spoken from experience
2023-06-05 04:19
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nope cannabis since 13 :D
2023-06-05 05:11
forest was ace clutching against 2018 astralis at 30.
2023-06-05 04:30
device is 27
2023-06-05 05:12
It's not really about body aging, it's loss of motivation for many. They realize they are near 30 and either achieved something, but it was a while ago or achieved nothing. That creates logical conclusion that they will not get anything anyways and why bother.
2023-06-05 14:31
i got 160ms average reaction time at 39 wdym
2023-06-05 14:38
Algeria Zawwy
It's not easy to compete at the same level. Because, you'll have family to take care of. You have to spend more time with your kids and your wife. It's going to be hard to warm up and play for hours in front of PC like m0nesy and old s1mple. Do you know why some players keep streaming because that's the only way they can get money. A player who's single without wife getting paid 15~20k $ isn't the same as a player with wife and kids get paid 15k lol
2023-06-05 14:53
Who gives two fucks about a practising a videogame at 30? Especially when they are already wealthy.
2023-06-05 14:57
Russia DomRemi
I'm sure it's mostly motivational things. At 30+ people tend to re-realise some things in life, discover some new pleasures (not what you think of) + established players being already wealthy and can do anything in life. So i'm sure its mostly motivation thing.
2023-06-05 14:57
India Hikkiee
Besiddz motivation, I believe CSGO is evolving everyday and people playing from earlier times have worse base than new ones so they couldn't match it
2023-06-05 19:01
hormones are out of balance, ur brain is out of balance, basically ur body is out of balance and u need like double to time to practise as a 16 year old.
2023-06-05 19:02
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