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major fluke or dallas fluke
siuhy | 
Europe Stanislavv 
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2023-06-04 22:02
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both aren't flukes
2023-06-04 22:03
Braindead people when the team without the most fans wins the tournament:
2023-06-04 22:03
21 replies
+1
2023-06-04 22:09
#17
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Hungary akamarky
+1
2023-06-04 22:10
+1
2023-06-04 22:11
abababababa
2023-06-04 22:56
+1
2023-06-04 22:57
+1
2023-06-04 23:17
#37
arT | 
South America MsK___
+1
2023-06-04 23:21
#39
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Finland samuuu38
+1
2023-06-04 23:21
#46
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Yugoslavia bigtito
+1
2023-06-05 00:17
+1
2023-06-05 00:23
#52
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Russia Haess
but watch on VP after they won major
2023-06-05 00:28
1 reply
they removed player from winning major right, it's their fault.
2023-06-05 08:19
+1
2023-06-05 00:28
big +1
2023-06-05 00:29
#57
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Dominica FallczE
+1
2023-06-05 00:32
+1
2023-06-05 00:32
-1
2023-06-05 00:33
+11
2023-06-05 07:08
+1
2023-06-05 07:28
+1
2023-06-05 08:12
#73
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Belgium n1cof
+11111111111111111111
2023-06-05 08:14
Vitality is not here so mid event
2023-06-04 22:03
4 replies
What??? Vitality is the best team in the world but everybody knows the tournament after winning major is a curse. It's one way to loss even Prime Astralis lost and NaVi decided to skip it too after winning Stockholm
2023-06-04 22:04
3 replies
Actually NaVi didn't skip Blast Fall finals was before IEM Winter
2023-06-04 22:12
2 replies
Yeah but there was a lot more time. I think its best to play last event of the year and like skip one mid year. Because you can get fucked pretty badly
2023-06-04 22:13
1 reply
Depends really how many events left, but i think Vitality did the right decision not going to Dallas
2023-06-04 22:51
Stop crying about major, better team won /closed
2023-06-04 22:03
#5
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Europe monerap
ence definitely not fluke
2023-06-04 22:03
the scene is just equal because tier 1 teams are pretenders and not contenders, unwilling to grind, and preferring to live off their previous success
2023-06-04 22:04
2 replies
yea NiKo only plays Minecraft and does coke in the clubs right? No... Wtf are u saying
2023-06-04 23:21
1 reply
They grind less than tier 2 and major showed this
2023-06-05 00:15
dallas was decent, ence was better than faze and heroic are chokers, deserved title.
2023-06-04 22:03
#8
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Russia _oxyorum_
both are not flukes
2023-06-04 22:04
#10
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Nepal Voicon
No navi no vitality, mid event
2023-06-04 22:05
#11
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Slovakia xaboff
neither, just a very competitive scene
2023-06-04 22:06
#12
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
vitality won the least difficulty bracket in the history of csgo majors ence/mouz beat heroic and faze to make it to grand finals then loose to each other iem dallas was a better event than paris major
2023-06-04 22:07
12 replies
+1
2023-06-04 22:09
I think you got it wrong, Vitality won it by not choking while top teams choked the bag. Also the only team i was sad for not qualifying on major playoffs was ENCE because they were close. Heroic is cursed atm and its quite insane
2023-06-04 22:10
4 replies
#19
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
i am not talking about choking look at the bracket difficulty, the matchups they get even if they win or loose it was easiest ever
2023-06-04 22:11
3 replies
Even if it was easiest they got the job done. They are major champions
2023-06-04 22:11
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#22
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
they certainly did they are the major winners lol
2023-06-04 22:12
iM at that tournament played better than niko & zywoo in Stockholm 2021. check yourself.
2023-06-05 07:11
#34
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
On paper? It's technically the "weakest" in terms of the respective rankings at the time but "least difficult" is obviously questionable to state considering that those same teams beat all of the other teams except Vitality, which were the only team to not choke and they did so undefeated. "Difficulty" is arguable in that regard.
2023-06-04 23:19
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#41
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United States Bbaby
only way to compare difficulty across all 19 majors is by same ranking algorithms, in our case hltv rankings hltv has been out for 15 plus years and has given stats / rankings even if they might not be the most accurate way of comparison, they are same for all. vitality objectively had the easiest brackets for a major winner, you want to cry then its a subjective problem on your side
2023-06-05 00:03
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#42
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
They objectively had the weakest opposition in accordance to the rankings but "easy" relates to difficulty, which in this context is arguable, not factual. I wouldn't state that what Vitality managed to accomplish at the Major was "easy" by any stretch of the imagination but that's just my opinion.
2023-06-05 00:08
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#43
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
read #12 again then type back
2023-06-05 00:12
1 reply
#45
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
What on Earth would that accomplish if I've already responded to it? You're also ignoring my point completely in favour of yours, which is to what-- Devalue what Vitality managed to accomplish at the Major or attempt to maintain that what Vitality managed to accomplish was indeed a "fluke". I think in any case, neither of those points are being very fair to Vitality. My initial being that simply making the claim that Vitality had the "easiest" path isn't all that accurate and it omits a lot of the information surrounding their overall run, the upsets, the matches, etc... You're only focusing on the piece of paper that shows the rankings and the fact that Vitality didn't face a Top 15 team in the Major playoffs. So yes, in that regard, they had the "weakest opposition" in that respect but I would argue that "easiest path" also isn't that accurate either in that particular context, especially given that watching the Major or the games that Vitality played paints the same exact picture.
2023-06-05 00:17
no way you just said that heroic and faze are better than ITB and GL
2023-06-05 08:21
ence is a good team, although they should have lost against astralis and faze, so maybe a fluke
2023-06-04 22:09
1 reply
Astralis lol
2023-06-04 22:55
#18
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Germany Matkee
your life fluke
2023-06-04 22:11
Major how fluke when a team have to play through so many qualifers to go through RMR then to challenger then legends and then playoffs .
2023-06-04 22:15
#30
ANa | 
United States Mosney
fluke fluke
2023-06-04 23:12
#31
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Neither? Is this supposed to be bait to mock the fact that the team(s) in the respective grand-finals of both events weren't considered tier 1 or a genuine question?
2023-06-04 23:17
dallas finals literally had two tier 2 teams lmao
2023-06-04 23:17
6 replies
#40
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Finland aleksiii
Who had to beat the "tier 1" teams to get there?
2023-06-04 23:26
1 reply
2023-06-05 07:08
#47
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
That doesn't really define it to be a "fluke", though? Especially given that both ENCE and MOUZ, the grand-finalists of the tournament, beat tier 1 teams to get there.
2023-06-05 00:18
1 reply
so did GamerLegion, Monte and Apeks, but that didn't stop the babies from crying
2023-06-05 07:07
#51
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Italy Karimk03
Ence isn't tier2
2023-06-05 00:27
1 reply
they absolutely are lmao
2023-06-05 07:08
they are not fluke, you are just saying it because the team that u like dont won
2023-06-04 23:20
Ence's win was definitely not a fluke. They looked consistent and dominant. Their win against Faze on Ancient has been one of the best maps to watch this year.
2023-06-04 23:21
2 replies
#48
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
+1 It's the same exact argument in the case of Vitality (post #12) - Clearly the matches themselves were not watched, users are just looking at the fact that it was tier 2 and nothing more. It's opting to ignore all of the information present in favour of the initial ranking of the team.
2023-06-05 00:19
+1
2023-06-05 00:35
ence made it to the final for the 2nd time, not a fluke
2023-06-05 00:26
Time always shows who the real flukes are.
2023-06-05 00:28
#56
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Russia Haess
Dallas just no that important as Major and it is after major so i think it deserved. Also Vitality deserved their major trophy but mayb it was too easy
2023-06-05 00:29
major way worse - t3 flukes in dallas we have dead t1 teams fluke
2023-06-05 00:33
There can be many excuses why teams aren't 100% in Dallas, starting from timezones. There can't be any excuses why teams wouldn't be 100% in major.
2023-06-05 00:38
#63
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Finland FlNLAND
600k tournament winnings with aleksib in 2019 definitely a fluke :D
2023-06-05 00:45
You name yourself after a player who’s known for having fluke runs
2023-06-05 07:13
major trash dallas irrelevant
2023-06-05 07:51
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