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They've just removed Edward, starix and ArtStyle from their hall of fame so they are no longer NaVi legends Like honestly, what the fuck are you doing idiots. Literally 3 player that gave ur stupid org almost everything you have now. They're the reason NaVi is a one of the most famous orgs in esports and that's what you payed them for it. What a disgrace. Hope they'll go bankrupt.
2023-06-05 17:37
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Source?
2023-06-05 17:40
7 replies
navi.gg/en/company/staff scroll down to "Hall of Fame"
2023-06-05 17:41
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web.archive.org/web/20220804074201/https.. Wow, real, although starix was never there I don't think? But why, those guys aren't Russian.
2023-06-05 17:44
2 replies
starix was there but when he transitioned to coaching aurora he got removed
2023-06-05 17:45
1 reply
As if there wasn't 100 reasons to hate this trash heap of an org, Navi give you even more
2023-06-05 17:46
Not even Guardian?
2023-06-05 18:25
2 replies
Yeah, no Puppey, no GuardiaN. Probably cuz they weren't there from the very start.
2023-06-05 18:29
#188
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Uzbekistan nasr1dn
why, no, he should be there. but never forget he will be a legend for us. it might not be for them but for us sure he is one of them
2023-06-06 06:29
Did they give a reason? They aren't even Russian. I can't even access Na'Vi website because my country decided to stay neutral bruh.
2023-06-05 17:42
28 replies
Nobody knows
2023-06-05 17:44
12 replies
#70
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Ukraine Kellso
everyone with a common sense knows. starix lives in russia and doesn't care about ukraine edward in love with russian culture I would also remove malorosov from my org
2023-06-05 18:52
11 replies
I can understand starix's removal (can't agree since he was the reason why NaVi project is ever started) But what's wrong with loving Russian culture? There's billions persons in the world that loves Mayakovskii, Esenin, Tolstoy and Pushkin. They have nothing to do with current Russian war. They earned massive respect from all the people worldwide. I see nothing bad here.
2023-06-05 18:59
9 replies
#77
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Ukraine Kellso
billions? hahaha that made me laugh , thanks)
2023-06-05 19:05
8 replies
still more than amount of ppl who love to read Shevchenko and Kotlyarevskiy tbh
2023-06-05 19:21
#132
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Turkey 9ll
Average Ukrainian thinks everyone should hate Russian + Their culture because of War... My Ruski friend is right. Billions of people loves Mayakovskii :)
2023-06-05 20:32
6 replies
#136
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Ukraine Kellso
Dude, you are not even reading what i'm saying. You are saying shit out of context. the world's population is ~8 billion. the take that billion people love russian culture implies that around 30 to 50% of world's population cares not only about maykovskii but literature overall LOL. This is pretty much impossible during digital era when people barely read books and mostly focus on earning money, watching netflix, listening to stupid mumble rap, degradating in tik tok. This is honestly the most stupid take I've heard this year, you guys are clueless
2023-06-05 20:38
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#140
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Turkey 9ll
bro, why not ? Maybe there is a billion or more people loves Russian Culture ? You ovbiously have no idea about what % means.
2023-06-05 20:59
still tho whats wrong with loving Russian culture?
2023-06-06 00:02
#191
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Austria gogoplata
i think you are clueless and living in a bubble. russian culture is respected and loved worldwide.
2023-06-06 07:50
#202
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Russia czern0bog
based
2023-06-06 08:02
Many people that died already that loved it too
2023-06-06 08:32
"my org" hahahaha
2023-06-05 19:57
Starix was coach of full russian roster "Aurora" Edward did not wish death to the Russians
2023-06-05 17:45
2 replies
lol that's insane
2023-06-05 19:48
No sane person wishes death to the Russians. Well, except maybe those who came here to kill Ukrainians and those who scream on social media to bomb more often Ukraine.
2023-06-05 23:56
#12
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Poland Astoner55
What does censoring a site have to staying neutral? lol
2023-06-05 17:47
10 replies
Why else would i not be able to access the site?
2023-06-05 17:47
#16
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Togo BRON0
"He who is not with Me is against Me"
2023-06-05 17:50
8 replies
sick person logic
2023-06-05 17:58
7 replies
#79
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Togo BRON0
Nah its true, thats the ideology that switzerland follows when it comes to war and it works very well for them. During WW2 they would shoot down Axis or Allie planes who violated their no fly zone.
2023-06-05 19:08
4 replies
it worked well for them because every powerful person in WW2 had their money saved in Gold in Swiss Banks + geography
2023-06-05 19:22
2 replies
#161
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Togo BRON0
All I'm saying is that was a philosophy they followed.
2023-06-05 23:33
+ Switzerland was very ethnically european so racist Nazi's didn't mind them + Outside of banks that germans really wanted to use, it's just kind of an insignificant place strategically.
2023-06-05 23:51
Not really, the real reason no one dared to touch Switzerland is because every politician from Russia, Germany, France,US etc kept their loot there. The interests of the state does not always align with the politicians (thank God)
2023-06-05 23:46
Sick person logic when you're not the one being attacked. When you're victims of a war people don't care about logic anymore as irrational as it sounds.
2023-06-06 05:53
1 reply
True
2023-06-06 09:19
#57
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Ukraine garen
I bet .ru sites are loading just fine hehe
2023-06-05 18:34
they will become irrelevant after s1mple retires anyway
2023-06-05 17:42
#8 edward didnt give a statement on the war and artstyle idfk
2023-06-05 17:48
17 replies
That's not the reason to remove him from hall of fame you know.
2023-06-05 17:48
16 replies
why not?
2023-06-05 17:53
12 replies
why yes? NaVi's legend that just wanted to stay normal person and not wishing his fans death? Unlike ceh9. He's nowhere near Starix's and Edwards level in terms of impact that they made inside the org.
2023-06-05 17:58
11 replies
starix turned on stream on first day or so after war started with title "no politics in games", thats too far tbh
2023-06-05 20:26
8 replies
Big W
2023-06-05 20:28
5 replies
yeah imagine usa attacked russia and some russian streamer would be sitting in new york city like "pls guys no politics", many russian people probably wouldnt like it including his former co workers/friends who are currently experiencing it
2023-06-05 20:53
but its all good i guess empathy is one of those things that differ animals from human beings
2023-06-05 20:57
3 replies
+1
2023-06-05 23:58
What are those videos that Kazakhstan may potentially send soldiers to Ukraine? Hope it's just some bs.
2023-06-05 23:59
1 reply
no idea man
2023-06-06 00:00
#192
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Austria gogoplata
"no politics in games" was a 100 % normal statement before this war. now it's somehow "too far" - this is crazy.
2023-06-06 07:53
1 reply
Actual NPC comment. It was always a dumb to say „this is just about sport, keep politics out of it“ but this is not about human rights or some polarizing views from a politician where some Sport event is. This is about a war being started and families of his former colleagues dying. Just weak to say something like this in this situation // no backbone. And yeah I am pretty sure it would piss you off when someone kills people you love and your „friend“ says something like this. Come on your brain can’t be that turned off.
2023-06-06 08:32
No need to wish their fans death, condemning Russian government actions and simply showing their stance would be enough, but they chose to stay quiet most likely to avoid any financial repercussions. Not saying that I agree with that desicion, but it's absolutely valid reason to do that in this situation.
2023-06-05 21:28
1 reply
Wow, someone in this thread with a brain. Edit: Read your username and if you are a trump supporter I question the functionality of your brain. :D
2023-06-06 08:55
yes but it is
2023-06-05 18:31
2 replies
why
2023-06-05 20:22
1 reply
ask navi
2023-06-05 20:22
#15
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Ireland Sodaking
hang on a second where tf is Zeus in their HOF
2023-06-05 17:49
2 replies
He's there. I'm sitting on a site rn
2023-06-05 17:50
1 reply
#68
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Ireland Sodaking
oh phew im just blind cause for a second there i was like WHERE TF IS ZEUS but thankfully i see him now
2023-06-05 18:50
starix mankurt wdym
2023-06-05 17:51
Navi org is a joke. If they didn’t have simple and elec they would be tweeting in obscurity.
2023-06-05 17:54
13 replies
#22
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Finland HARD4ENCE
+1. They originally became famous from winning the first TI in Dota 2. Even their Dota team has been utter garbage and heavily mismanaged for years. Seems these guys don't know how to build or manage teams, despite the fact that they apparently got a pretty big funding behind them and access to one of the biggest talent pools in the world.
2023-06-05 18:06
2 replies
No, NaVi became famous when their 1.6 roster took over the world in 2010. Also "access to one of the biggest talent pools in the world" is not correct either. That pool you speak of is like 90% russians and NaVi has made it clear they havn't even been looking at recruiting russian players since the war broke out.
2023-06-06 06:05
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#212
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Just because they choose not to use said talent pool, doesn't mean they don't have access to it. As the other guy above said, once s1mple and electronic retire/become washed up, the org will fall into obscurity with just Ukrainian players.
2023-06-06 08:45
Wow, navi w/o s1mple and elec be like hltv.org/ranking/teams/2016/april/25
2023-06-05 17:59
9 replies
2016
2023-06-05 18:05
3 replies
and? S1mple playing for navi from 2016 I show navi w/o s1mple use ur brain
2023-06-05 18:08
2 replies
Might aswell show me something from source you numpty
2023-06-05 18:10
what does any of this have to do with navi being relevant in 2023
2023-06-05 18:10
7 years ago proves my point. Talking about now.
2023-06-05 18:06
With Edward starix and 2 russians , right?
2023-06-05 18:12
2 replies
What does it change? that the Russians are receiving 20k dollars from Ukraine org, and now they are sitting on their ass and are afraid to speak out about the war. Wow.
2023-06-05 18:15
1 reply
#215
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Canada k4rnag3
They recieved 20k dollars from Ukraine.org, which recieved it from russian sponsors xd
2023-06-06 08:56
And there they have Edward. Lolz
2023-06-05 19:52
Why do you care about another country's organization? Watch out for vp and forze and don’t go into NAVI.
2023-06-05 18:04
6 replies
i don't give a single fuck about NaVi, vp pr forze. The fact that they removed their legends that i've been watching playing for NaVi, earning trophies, building this org - gives me lots of anger while piece of crap like ceh9 who's been complete trash for 3 years of playing for NaVi - still sits there. Sounds a bit twofaced.
2023-06-05 18:11
5 replies
I think they will figure it out without your point of view, a 17-year-old schoolboy from Saratov
2023-06-05 18:14
3 replies
sure mr 14yo NaVi supporter. I got ur point. No reason to talk to you anymore.
2023-06-05 18:15
2 replies
I don’t supported any org Cheering = cringe Bye.
2023-06-05 18:16
1 reply
using the word "cringe" is cringe. not cheering for an org.
2023-06-05 20:04
#168
Kvem | 
Ukraine da77a
>"they removed their legends that i've been watching playing for NaVi, earning trophies, building this org" >"piece of crap ceh9 who's been complete trash for 3 years of playing for NaVi - still sits there" What is my blud wafflin about
2023-06-05 23:49
hall of fame isnt that deep in esports rofl
2023-06-05 18:16
#48
swag | 
Cyprus Porgos
Common navi L tbh
2023-06-05 18:21
flag checks out everyday finding something to cry about
2023-06-05 18:22
3 replies
That was not ukrainian
2023-06-05 18:27
1 reply
yes
2023-06-05 18:28
famous NaVi dickrider gfy buddy, you ain't welcome here.
2023-06-05 18:38
Navi doesn't understand this is a video game, Not a real war and if they are about a real war, I don't see s1mple out with the sniper, So sad. Navi fix -NPL +Sanji
2023-06-05 18:27
2 replies
Sanji??? Navi instant top 1 for 2 years.
2023-06-05 20:17
1 reply
That's what i'm saying
2023-06-05 23:14
#61
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Yugoslavia mrmojo
Another big L for NaVi, but not surprised. This org is synonymous for shooting themselves in the knee. Starix and Edward removed and ceh9 being there is a disgrace. Ceh9 was their worst player for years.
2023-06-05 18:42
2 replies
+1 ceh9 was a decoy cuz there's was 0 options left LMAO literally the last guy that joined NaVi and got removed in 2013-14 while starix and edward played for years and builded this team from scratch. Don't forget the fact that Starix was a founder of NaVi alongside buiseness man from Kazakhstan that gave him money.
2023-06-05 18:48
1 reply
Yes, starix is literally the most important person in Navi, who was tactfully deceived and pushed aside.
2023-06-05 18:50
-npl +GIGACHAD suhi
2023-06-05 18:42
I think it’s cause there still active players, Edward just joined a new team
2023-06-05 18:45
1 reply
Dendi is also playing for the team. He actually founded B8 that almost qualified for the Major. he's in NA rn
2023-06-05 19:04
#74
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Finland kkd69
so many offended pro russians in this thread
2023-06-05 19:00
11 replies
Because this is a common story for the entire Russian community. Russians loved Ukrainians until they started getting death threats and stuff. Esports has always been outside politics.
2023-06-05 19:03
10 replies
"Russians loved Ukrainians" yeah lets pretend h-word hasnt been a daily slur against ukrainians for decades lmfao
2023-06-05 19:47
9 replies
Don't forget M world It's all the time been joke
2023-06-05 19:55
7 replies
U are delusional
2023-06-05 21:55
6 replies
"Moskal" word doesnt exist and didnt used? How many anti-Russian rallies have been organized during this time? And how many anti-Ukrainian. Answer puppy.
2023-06-05 21:58
5 replies
That wasn’t my point lmao, u said “Russians loved Ukrainians” and “it was a joke all the time” when clearly that’s not even close to being true Russians have been fed with anti Ukraine propaganda since 00s when it was still Kuchma, just remember all those “stealing gas”, onishenko’s agriculture programs to replace Ukrainian products, then demonising their revolutions etc. Take 50 random people from “glubinniy narod” and ask them what they thought about Ukraine before 2014, I would be surprised if even 10% say they liked it As for your pathetic #144 reply that’s simply a manipulation, why would Russia hold any rallies against Ukraine when Russia isn’t the one under pressure all this time? Of course there was antirussian mood in ukraine because nobody wants to become part of it lol
2023-06-05 22:11
Oh yeah and I forgot to mention how literally 99% of the people in Russia never had a clue about Ukraine’s history and still don’t
2023-06-05 22:20
3 replies
I am very flattered that you, as a Ukrainian, use the Russian flag because you are ashamed of your own.
2023-06-05 22:49
2 replies
hahah nice the classic "you are fakflagging" when got completely rekt like i said, pathetic
2023-06-05 22:50
1 reply
dont mind him bro this guy is biggest putin dickrider on whole hltv just dont waste your energy
2023-06-06 00:09
Man, that's not a slur, it lost its original meaning long time ago, it's like calling Germans Nemzi
2023-06-06 08:44
lol
2023-06-05 19:08
#80
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Ukraine SHEOL_NR
Starix fraud and bug abuser but Edward? Why?
2023-06-05 19:09
1 reply
there's only speculations about Edward being "pro-Russian" but there's 0 proves to that.
2023-06-05 19:11
+rep more likely
2023-06-05 19:10
2 replies
Sad to be you Imagine Russians respect Ukrainian CS and Dota legends more that Ukrainians themselves. You should be thankful to those 3 guys that made Ukrainian NaVi one of the most famous esports orgs.
2023-06-05 19:15
1 reply
The last thing I'm concerned atm are russians, people who support russians and their feelings.
2023-06-05 20:38
what a disgrace. First they take our helmets now our hall of fame?
2023-06-05 19:13
1 reply
xD
2023-06-05 19:54
So they're not legends anymore, just because they didnt speak out "fuck russia"?
2023-06-05 19:17
2 replies
Probably so
2023-06-05 19:18
#110
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Russia mshkoda
lmao +1
2023-06-05 19:56
flag
2023-06-05 19:35
2 replies
The only argument you have? Sad to be you aka 20iq newfagger
2023-06-05 19:36
What exactly is wrong with his flag, he supports ukrainian legends more than NaVi XD
2023-06-05 20:13
#102
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Russia mshkoda
Expected from Navi management
2023-06-05 19:46
its unfortunate, we live in an era of virtue signalling if you're silent, it's like admitting you're guilty ukrainians and braindead liberal westerners who know nothing about the conflict expect every russian to speak against it even if it means risking their lives and jobs i dont blame na'vi, they're almost forced to do things like this in order to keep sponsors, appease fans...
2023-06-05 20:00
Thats sad for legends
2023-06-05 20:08
cringe org
2023-06-05 20:10
As a NaVi fan, I'm really sad I hope they won't remove markeloff only because he has a russian last name LOL
2023-06-05 20:14
#126
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Finland teukkjs
hahah lmao ruskis getting deleted from everywhere and putte getting more and more mad
2023-06-05 20:17
5 replies
ur braindead xd
2023-06-05 22:00
All three are ukrainian u donkey
2023-06-05 22:02
3 replies
Shot in the leg
2023-06-05 22:05
#182
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Finland teukkjs
one day they say ukrainians are russians and now again their not :D
2023-06-06 05:44
1 reply
U need to stop smoke some weed asap
2023-06-06 07:31
It reminds me of like starship troopers where the kids are stepping on Roaches and the woman is like "they're doing their part" as like a satirical take on the idiots at home who think they're contributing to the war effort by not buying French fries because France didn't fully back the US. I'm sure Na'Vi doing this actually caused the Russian soldier who was firing thermobaric rockets at a building full of soldiers to actually miss the target and not pulp the men inside the building or rip their vital organs apart in the shock wave- oh wait no it did nothing Russia has a population of 143 million and CS has never had a viewership over 2 million so I doubt there are more than maybe 7 people in the Russian military structure that have even heard of CS forget about Edward.
2023-06-05 20:25
1 reply
people are getting obsessed with the war but I guess its kinda understandable? Still its just too much if you ask me
2023-06-06 00:15
who cares about this shit on some random internet website lmao
2023-06-05 20:36
1 reply
It's 2023 bro, people get mad over showing or even disrespecting colors
2023-06-06 08:00
lmfao they are using soviet playbook to erase history
2023-06-05 20:39
#152
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Ukraine KeIIaCo
1 is a guy who lives and pays money to russia for 2 or 3 years 2nd is the guys who wanted to fight for "Kharkiv people republic" similar to DPR and LPR russian puppet states against Ukraine! (source multiple interviews by his friends, like ceh9 for example) To late if you ask me but i didnt even know they had hall of fame untill yesterday!
2023-06-05 22:14
4 replies
source: trust to ceh9 bruh
2023-06-05 23:15
3 replies
#159
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Ukraine KeIIaCo
not only him, zeus and yxo admited to this aswell! back in 2014 when shitzzia started all this mess kharkiv had almost same shit like donetsk and luhansk with vatniks wanting to join ruzzia, but Ukrainians in Kharkiv didnt let it happen, unlike previous 2, cuz those vatniks had guns(
2023-06-05 23:28
2 replies
Do you really think that this statement is a weighty reason to deprive edward and starix of all merit? They both literally created this team from nothing, and now you're just erasing history.
2023-06-05 23:39
1 reply
#166
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Ukraine KeIIaCo
no one even knew they had hall of fame untill yesterday so i think its alright, not like people going to forget the golden roster from 2010.
2023-06-05 23:49
Maybe it's an overreaction, but reality is that neither of us are getting attacked by Shahed drones and ballistic missiles every night
2023-06-06 00:20
2 replies
What is your opinion about the capture of Russian cities such as Belgorod, Shebekino, etc.?
2023-06-06 00:53
1 reply
Offense is the best defence
2023-06-06 06:20
Ukrainian nationalists at it again
2023-06-06 07:54
don't care about natus dniwere but huge respect Edward
2023-06-06 07:59
Always a bad look when orgs get too political. What's worse is NAVI takes it to a whole another level.
2023-06-06 08:36
#223
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Serbia KS4
na vi trash removed edward,starix...
2023-06-06 09:20
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